Potato now stable

2000-08-14 Thread Anthony Towns
Hello world, Well, as some of you might have noticed: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/org/ftp.debian.org/ftp/dists$ ls -l Debian2.2r0 stable lrwxrwxrwx1 troupdebadmin6 Aug 14 13:06 Debian2.2r0 - stable lrwxrwxrwx1 troupdebadmin6 Aug 14 13:06 stable - potato CD images

intent to package snap

2000-08-14 Thread Dr. Guenter Bechly
Hi, I intend to package snap 0.02a, a Perl-based Napster client for console. The package is actually already made, but I have just applied to become a Debian maintainer, thus it will probably still be quite some time till I can upload the package (unless I will find a sponsor). Cheers, Guenter

Re: Intent To Split: netbase

2000-08-14 Thread Peter Makholm
Andreas Fuchs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Good enough for you? Good enough for anyone? ajt? (-: Bad idea. Then you also want every X11-app to ask if it should install itself in /usr/X386/bin or somewhere else and every game-like app if it should instaal it self in /usr/bin or /usr/games?

Re: Intent To Split: netbase

2000-08-14 Thread John Goerzen
Herbert Xu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Please also note that other daemons conflict with each other well, e.g., inn cnews, sendmail postfix. I am aware of that, and it's a shame, there is no real reason that they cannot coexist.

please help on apt-move weirdness

2000-08-14 Thread zw
apt-move 4.1.9 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:1 ~ $ sudo apt-move localupdate /usr/bin/apt-move: line 122: syntax error near unexpected token (' [EMAIL PROTECTED]:1 ~ $ the script contains some `(' and `)' where it should be `{' and `}' (??) but if this is the case, then how came that `()' became `{}' ?? i

5 inofficial packages for download

2000-08-14 Thread Dr. Guenter Bechly
Hi, I just uploaded my first five Debian packages. They include the console programs journal, mrename, ncps, saydate, and snap. The URL is http://www.bechly.de/debian/. I also included a Packages file generated with dpkg-scanpackages, thus the site should be apt-getable. Since I am no official

Re: Intent To Split: netbase

2000-08-14 Thread Decklin Foster
Andreas Fuchs writes: Hm. So why not make it the admin's choice? How about' snip Setting up netbase (version) ... In the standard configuration, some binaries of netbase are installed in /usr/sbin, which is, by default, not included in the user's search paths. Do you want to create a

Re: Bochs / VGA-Bios license question / freebios anyone?

2000-08-14 Thread Andrew Lenharth
I originally ITPed bochs. Unfortunately it would have to go in non-free. the VGA-BIOS included is licensed only for use and distribution with bochs. It therefor cannot be seperated into a seperate package from bochs (and if bochs is packaged, it should ge removed from the source archive. Andrew

X with (g|w|x)dm capable of selecting host at login

2000-08-14 Thread esoR ocsirF
Hi, A while back there was mention of developing a display manageer that could select a host to login to. What ever became of this? I am setting up a small group of machines for our physics/engineering depts. and would like to have this available. Is this still just ideaware? My apologies if

Re: Intent To Split: netbase

2000-08-14 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, John == John Goerzen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John Herbert Xu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Please also note that other daemons conflict with each other well, e.g., inn cnews, sendmail postfix. John I am aware of that, and it's a shame, there is no real reason that John they cannot

Re: please help on apt-move weirdness

2000-08-14 Thread Peter S Galbraith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:1 ~ $ sudo apt-move localupdate /usr/bin/apt-move: line 122: syntax error near unexpected token (' See the following: http://cgi.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=67519 http://cgi.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=67522

Re: Intent To Split: netbase

2000-08-14 Thread Brendan Cully
On Monday, 14 August 2000 at 14:20, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Hi, John == John Goerzen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John Herbert Xu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Please also note that other daemons conflict with each other well, e.g., inn cnews, sendmail postfix. John I am aware of

5 inofficial packages for download

2000-08-14 Thread Dr. Guenter Bechly
Hi, I just uploaded my first five Debian packages. They include the console programs journal, mrename, ncps, saydate, and snap. The download URL is http://members.tripod.de/GBechly/debian/. I also included a Packages file generated with dpkg-scanpackages, thus the site should be apt-getable with

Re: Intent To Split: netbase

2000-08-14 Thread John Goerzen
Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John Herbert Xu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Please also note that other daemons conflict with each other well, e.g., inn cnews, sendmail postfix. John I am aware of that, and it's a shame, there is no real reason that John they cannot

Re: X with (g|w|x)dm capable of selecting host at login

2000-08-14 Thread John Goerzen
xdm already has this feature, I believe. -- John esoR ocsirF [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, A while back there was mention of developing a display manageer that could select a host to login to. What ever became of this? I am setting up a small group of machines for our physics/engineering

ITP: gcc, binutils, libc, gdb for Amtel AVR microcontrollers

2000-08-14 Thread Hakan Ardo
Hi, the entire gnu develoopnet environment is ported to the avr arcitecture and runs nicely under debian. Currently all that excists as debian packages are a few asmeblers and programmers. I intend to create the following debain packages: avr-binutils avr-gcc avr-libc avr-monitor (code

Re: ITP: gcc, binutils, libc, gdb for Amtel AVR microcontrollers

2000-08-14 Thread Ben Collins
On Mon, Aug 14, 2000 at 11:04:15PM +0200, Hakan Ardo wrote: Hi, the entire gnu develoopnet environment is ported to the avr arcitecture and runs nicely under debian. Currently all that excists as debian packages are a few asmeblers and programmers. I intend to create the following debain

Re: Bochs / VGA-Bios license question / freebios anyone?

2000-08-14 Thread Ulrich Eckhardt
On Sun, 13 Aug 2000, Roland Bauerschmidt wrote: As Goswin mentioned earlier it's also possible to use bochs with some other bios [snip] I´m not sure if this even touches this discussion but what about using the bios that is already present on most computers? Wouldn´t that reduce the

Re: Intent To Split: netbase

2000-08-14 Thread Kurt D. Starsinic
On Thu, Aug 10, 2000 at 03:22:43PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: On Thu, Aug 10, 2000 at 12:47:34AM -0400, Decklin Foster wrote: Anthony Towns writes: Well, if you wanted half the people running unstable to just blithely upgrade and have all their firewalling disappear, you could remove

Re: ITP: gcc, binutils, libc, gdb for Amtel AVR microcontrollers

2000-08-14 Thread Hakan Ardo
On Mon, Aug 14, 2000 at 05:07:29PM -0400, Ben Collins wrote: On Mon, Aug 14, 2000 at 11:04:15PM +0200, Hakan Ardo wrote: Hi, the entire gnu develoopnet environment is ported to the avr arcitecture and runs nicely under debian. Currently all that excists as debian packages are a few

Re: X with (g|w|x)dm capable of selecting host at login

2000-08-14 Thread Philippe Troin
John Goerzen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: xdm already has this feature, I believe. -- John esoR ocsirF [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, A while back there was mention of developing a display manageer that could select a host to login to. What ever became of this? I am setting up a

Re: Bug#69090: strange su / which / apt behaviour

2000-08-14 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
On Mon, Aug 14, 2000 at 12:47:29AM -0400, David Grill Watson wrote: It wasn't like that before - and should something be done about that? It seems pretty broken to me. you can just link root's xauthority file to yours. or use XAUTHORITY= Greetings Bernd

Re: ITP: gcc, binutils, libc, gdb for Amtel AVR microcontrollers

2000-08-14 Thread Ben Collins
binutils is part of the actual upstream source version 2.10 gcc is distributed as a patch to version 2.95.2 and gdb as a patch to 4.18, the rest is not related to actual gnu sources. Excellent. Then most likely all you need to do is get the target added to the binutils-multiarch package,

Seems potato's now 'stable'! 2.2's out, then?

2000-08-14 Thread Ben Gertzfield
I guess nobody's actually announced it on the list, but the FTP sites seem to have moved the link for stable to potato! 2.2 must, logically, be released! Shocking. :) Congrats to everyone! (How come it wasn't announced on the list?) Ben -- Brought to you by the letters E and J and the number

Re: Intent To Split: netbase

2000-08-14 Thread Clint Adams
No real reason? Only one package can listen in on port 25, and Only one package can listen on port 25 of one IP. It is possible to have multiple packages listening on different ports or different IPs.

Re: ITP: gcc, binutils, libc, gdb for Amtel AVR microcontrollers

2000-08-14 Thread Hakan Ardo
On Mon, Aug 14, 2000 at 05:44:29PM -0400, Ben Collins wrote: binutils is part of the actual upstream source version 2.10 gcc is distributed as a patch to version 2.95.2 and gdb as a patch to 4.18, the rest is not related to actual gnu sources. Excellent. Then most likely all you

RE: gcc, binutils, libc, gdb for Amtel AVR microcontrollers

2000-08-14 Thread Frank Smith
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Hakan Ardo Sent: None To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; debian-devel@lists.debian.org Subject: ITP: gcc, binutils, libc, gdb for Amtel AVR microcontrollers Hi, the entire gnu develoopnet environment is ported

Re: gcc, binutils, libc, gdb for Amtel AVR microcontrollers

2000-08-14 Thread Hakan Ardo
On Mon, Aug 14, 2000 at 07:42:05PM -0300, Frank Smith wrote: As part of the Embedded Debian Project (see http://www.emdebian.org) I've made modifications to the binutils and gcc source packages to support the building of cross compilation environments. Perhaps there is some overlap here?

Re: gcc, binutils, libc, gdb for Amtel AVR microcontrollers

2000-08-14 Thread Hakan Ardo
On Mon, Aug 14, 2000 at 07:42:05PM -0300, Frank Smith wrote: Hi, the entire gnu develoopnet environment is ported to the avr arcitecture and runs nicely under debian. Currently all that excists as debian packages are a few asmeblers and programmers. I intend to create the following

Re: Seems potato's now 'stable'! 2.2's out, then?

2000-08-14 Thread Mircea Luca
Ben Gertzfield wrote: I guess nobody's actually announced it on the list, but the FTP sites seem to have moved the link for stable to potato! 2.2 must, logically, be released! Shocking. :) Congrats to everyone! (How come it wasn't announced on the list?) Ben I just received the

Re: X with wdm capable of selecting host at login

2000-08-14 Thread esoR ocsirF
On Mon, Aug 14, 2000 at 02:23:50PM -0700, Philippe Troin wrote: In /etc/X11/wdm/wdm-config, add: ! Use our chooser DisplayManager*chooser: path-to-chooser Start X with X -indirect localhost and voila. Ok, this sounds like like what I am looking for but, I seem to be

Re: Bochs / VGA-Bios license question / freebios anyone?

2000-08-14 Thread goswin . brederlow
Ulrich Eckhardt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, 13 Aug 2000, Roland Bauerschmidt wrote: As Goswin mentioned earlier it's also possible to use bochs with some other bios [snip] I´m not sure if this even touches this discussion but what about using the bios that is already present on

Re: X with wdm capable of selecting host at login

2000-08-14 Thread Jonathan D. Proulx
On Mon, Aug 14, 2000 at 05:52:07PM -0700, esoR ocsirF wrote: :# /etc/init.d/wdm stop :# X -indirect localhost : :and I get an X background with a mouse cursor but no wdm panel. I, once :again, assume that this is the correct behavior. So I am now thinking, :do I pass these options to X via the

Re: X with wdm capable of selecting host at login

2000-08-14 Thread Brian May
esoR == esoR ocsirF [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: esoR On Mon, Aug 14, 2000 at 02:23:50PM -0700, Philippe Troin esoR wrote: In /etc/X11/wdm/wdm-config, add: ! Use our chooser DisplayManager*chooser: path-to-chooser Start X with X -indirect localhost and voila.

Re: X with wdm capable of selecting host at login

2000-08-14 Thread Brian May
Brian == Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: esoR # /etc/init.d/wdm stop # X -indirect localhost esoR and I get an X background with a mouse cursor but no wdm esoR panel. I, once again, assume that this is the correct esoR behavior. So I am now thinking, do I pass these options

Re: X with wdm capable of selecting host at login

2000-08-14 Thread esoR ocsirF
On Mon, Aug 14, 2000 at 09:19:41PM -0400, Jonathan D. Proulx wrote: this means either: there are no host on the local subnet which are willing to let you connect via XDMP or some thing is scrod in your config files (like wdm is looking at xmd's config or some other random weirdness).

Re: ITP: sather-elisp

2000-08-14 Thread Steve Greenland
On 11-Aug-00, 19:04 (CDT), Herbert Xu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve Greenland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: debview - Emacs mode for viewing Debian packages (And I, for one, would not object to debview being folded into dpkg.) As a vi user, I would. Why? Oh, I see, because it depends on

Re: Intent To Split: netbase

2000-08-14 Thread Manoj Srivastava
John == John Goerzen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No real reason? Only one package can listen in on port 25, and John There is no real reason that all must listen on port 25. Then you and I have very different opinions on what a working MTA is. Indeed, the SMTP RFC's differ with your

Re: Intent To Split: netbase

2000-08-14 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Aug 14, 2000 at 10:27:22AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Branden == Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Branden Of course. The obvious answer is that programs that have Branden some utility to unprivileged users should go in /bin (or Branden /usr/bin). The

Re: Intent To Split: netbase

2000-08-14 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Aug 14, 2000 at 09:54:28AM -0400, Chad Miller wrote: On Mon, Aug 14, 2000 at 09:22:27AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: Perhaps not. But a traceroute in /usr/bin would satisfy more people than a traceroute in /usr/sbin. Hear, hear! It would be a flag day for a few poorly written

Re: Bug#69090: strange su / which / apt behaviour

2000-08-14 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Aug 14, 2000 at 12:47:29AM -0400, David Grill Watson wrote: I've noticed that some time recently (not sure when) when I su to root while I'm in X, I no longer have access to the X session - I have to do an xhost +localhost as the current user. It wasn't like that before - and

Re: Python 1.5.2 licensing (long)

2000-08-14 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sun, Aug 13, 2000 at 11:51:52PM -0700, Henry Jones wrote: [...] Your lines are so short that they are difficult for me to read. It's like listening to a 56kb/s stream through a 14.4 modem. How about setting your line width to between 65 and 75 characters? -- G. Branden Robinson

Re: X with wdm capable of selecting host at login

2000-08-14 Thread Jonathan D. Proulx
On Mon, Aug 14, 2000 at 07:02:54PM -0700, esoR ocsirF wrote: :OK I tried : :X -indirect myXhost.edu :and it just resarts over and over but, if I do your host is not accepting indirect connections, this is a configuration issue (perhaps a weird one). Since the following works, atleast

Re: ITP: Moscow ML - An implementation of standard ML.

2000-08-14 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
I'm packaging Moscow ML. I'm not an expert in this language (but I know a little of it). Somebody talked to me about this package in a GNU/Linux event here in Argentina (where I gave a Debian talk that went very well!!!) and I commited myself to package this. I will have a package in a

Re: Intent To Split: netbase

2000-08-14 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
Branden Of course. The obvious answer is that programs that have Branden some utility to unprivileged users should go in /bin (or Branden /usr/bin). The problem with that is that it is all so very subjective, and it all depends on the ``unprivileged user''. Under this tacit

Re: Intent To Split: netbase

2000-08-14 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
Then you also want every X11-app to ask if it should install itself in /usr/X386/bin or somewhere else and every game-like app if it should instaal it self in /usr/bin or /usr/games? Worse: There's a package which asks the sysadmin where is dpkg in the sustem..!