ITP hodie

2000-09-02 Thread Christian T. Steigies
Been tortured by your latin teacher with Asterix, the Gaulle? You always wanted to impress him? Well, then hodie is for you. What does it do? It has the same functionality as the date (1) program, only... It has it in grammatically correct latin. It is distributed under the MIT

Re: Bug#70269: automatic build fails for potato

2000-09-02 Thread Joey Hess
Manoj Srivastava wrote: I think that since every package using a helper package seems to need a versioned dependency I don't see any reason why versioned build-dependancies on debhelper are any more common that versioned build dependancies on say, the C compiler. Not to mention the C++

Re: Bug#70269: automatic build fails for potato

2000-09-02 Thread Joey Hess
Wichert Akkerman wrote: dpkg-dev is an extremely stable interface, something you can not say for debhelper. Prove it. (See my earlier message about make.) -- see shy jo, pissed off -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL

Re: Bug#70269: automatic build fails for potato

2000-09-02 Thread Joey Hess
Steve Greenland wrote: So I'm supposed to go back and figure out if my packages can be successfully built with debhelper 2.0.58? If so, how can I -- is there a complete archive of all released debhelpers somewhere? Please read the bottom of http://cgi.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=51898

Re: multiple dependancies on the same package?

2000-09-02 Thread Roland Bauerschmidt
On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 01:59:00PM -0400, Richard A Nelson wrote: Would the following work as expected: Depends: sendmail (= 8.9.3), sendmail ( 8.9.4) libapache-mod-ssl does it: Package: libapache-mod-ssl Version: 2.6.4-1.3.12-1 Priority: optional Section: non-US Maintainer: Miquel van

Re: Bug#70269: automatic build fails for potato

2000-09-02 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 04:35:53AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 12:04:23AM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Tue, Aug 29, 2000 at 10:37:01PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: Purists happen to be whoever disagrees with Hamish Moffat. Cf. his By the way, please watch

Re: Bug#70269: automatic build fails for potato

2000-09-02 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 01:55:09PM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: Those people would be equally well served by a note or check at the beginning of the debian/rules file; we didn't need policy and a new control file headers for that. That sounds like an ideal addition to debhelper; wouldn't that

Re: Security of Debian SuX0r?

2000-09-02 Thread Roland Bauerschmidt
On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 02:57:20PM +0300, Juhapekka Tolvanen wrote: Kurt Seifried While we are at it. Kurt critizes that adduser creates home directories readable for all users by default. The woody version has an option in /etc/adduser.conf to change it to any value you want. Shall we make

Re: Security of Debian SuX0r?

2000-09-02 Thread Herbert Xu
Roland Bauerschmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: want. Shall we make something like 700 default? It would break some things like UserDir public_html in Apache, etc. In my school server You could make it 711. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmVHI~}

Re: Bug#70269: automatic build fails for potato

2000-09-02 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On 2901T104626-0500, Steve Greenland wrote: find. The policy manual says look in build-essential. The control file for Build-essential says look in policy manual The policy manual says look for the *informational* list in build-essential. build-essential says look for the *definition* in

Re: Security of Debian SuX0r?

2000-09-02 Thread Joseph Carter
On Sat, Sep 02, 2000 at 10:07:04AM +1100, Herbert Xu wrote: want. Shall we make something like 700 default? It would break some things like UserDir public_html in Apache, etc. In my school server You could make it 711. 751 seems more reasonable IMO. -- Joseph Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Security of Debian SuX0r?

2000-09-02 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 05:40:15PM -0500, Roland Bauerschmidt wrote: Shall we make something like 700 default? No. Resist the urge to dumb things down. Better to insist on intelligent, responsible users who have been educated, and have educated themselves, about the realities of computer

Re: Security of Debian SuX0r?

2000-09-02 Thread Jonathan D. Proulx
On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 05:40:15PM -0500, Roland Bauerschmidt wrote: :On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 02:57:20PM +0300, Juhapekka Tolvanen wrote: : Kurt Seifried : :While we are at it. Kurt critizes that adduser creates home :directories readable for all users by default. The woody version has :an option

Re: Security of Debian SuX0r?

2000-09-02 Thread Roland Bauerschmidt
On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 06:21:51PM -0500, Joseph Carter wrote: 751 seems more reasonable IMO. This sounds also reasonable for me. And because of the x-bit UserDirs, etc. should work. Does anyone objects if I change this with the next upload of adduser? Consider that this is only the default

Re: Security of Debian SuX0r?

2000-09-02 Thread Peter Palfrader
Hi Roland! On Fri, 01 Sep 2000, Roland Bauerschmidt wrote: On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 06:21:51PM -0500, Joseph Carter wrote: 751 seems more reasonable IMO. This sounds also reasonable for me. And because of the x-bit UserDirs, etc. should work. Does anyone objects if I change this with the

Re: Free Pine?

2000-09-02 Thread Branden Robinson
On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 01:26:53PM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: First of all, by this message you have our permission to distribute a modified version of IMAPD. That to me says Debian has permission to re-distribute our modified version, but that people who recieve it from us do not,

Re: Free Pine?

2000-09-02 Thread Anthony Towns
On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 07:47:57PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 01:26:53PM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: First of all, by this message you have our permission to distribute a modified version of IMAPD. That to me says Debian has permission to re-distribute our

ITP: penguin command

2000-09-02 Thread Bernhard Josef Rieder
Package: penguin-command Section: non-free/games Depends: ${shlibs:Depends}

Re: ITP: penguin command

2000-09-02 Thread Peter Palfrader
Hi Bernhard! On Sat, 02 Sep 2000, Bernhard Josef Rieder wrote: Package: penguin-command Section: non-free/games Depends: ${shlibs:Depends}

Re: ITP: penguin command

2000-09-02 Thread Bernhard Josef Rieder
On Sat, Sep 02, 2000 at 03:44:29AM +0200, Peter Palfrader wrote: Is it possible to play the game without the music? If so you might consider placing it in main with a Recommends: or Suggests: for the non-free music. It seems to work. I think only the *.MODs are copyrighted and the soun

Re: My recent bug's and continuing effort to debconf-ize Debian

2000-09-02 Thread Roland Bauerschmidt
On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 12:45:07PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: Debconf is already in standard. Three packages of standard priority use debconf (console-tools, console-data, setserial). All are priority required. What is with lynx? Lynx is standard and _depends_ on debconf. I would also appreciate

Re: My recent bug's and continuing effort to debconf-ize Debian

2000-09-02 Thread Joey Hess
Roland Bauerschmidt wrote: On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 12:45:07PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: Debconf is already in standard. Three packages of standard priority use debconf (console-tools, console-data, setserial). All are priority required. What is with lynx? Lynx is standard and _depends_ on

Re: My recent bug's and continuing effort to debconf-ize Debian

2000-09-02 Thread Roland Bauerschmidt
On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 07:10:30PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: As I said above, debconf is in standard. Sorry. I didn't know that. Dpkg and apt-cache still claim that it is in optional: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~% apt-cache show debconf | grep \^Priority: Priority:

CFP: Smart BootManager

2000-09-02 Thread hashao
Hello debian-devel, Smart BootManager is a tiny, powerful and multi-language boot manager written in assembler. SBM supports many features in only 30K bytes including multi-languages and themes, a user friendly menu system, partition auto scan, boot schedule, password protection, and more. SBM is

RE: Smart BootManager

2000-09-02 Thread Yu Guanghui
hi It's really a nice tool.:-) And it could be installed from linux ! saka -Original Message- From: hashao [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2000 11:00 AM To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Subject: CFP:

ITP: hanzim

2000-09-02 Thread Roger So
I intend to package Hanzi Master, a Chinese character dictionary and learning aid. I haven't yet passed the NM process; however Anthony Fok ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) has agreed to sponsor this package for me. License: GPL URL: http://cogsci.ucsd.edu/~arobert/hanzim.html It builds fairly cleanly on

Re: Security of Debian SuX0r?

2000-09-02 Thread Ethan Benson
On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 08:06:20PM -0400, Jonathan D. Proulx wrote: Anything less than 700 breaks RSA authentication for ssh. A point to consider though I'll gladly concede that anyone using RSA keys ought to know what permissions they want on their home directory and how to change them.

Re: Security of Debian SuX0r?

2000-09-02 Thread Adam McKenna
On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 09:03:10PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote: On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 08:06:20PM -0400, Jonathan D. Proulx wrote: Anything less than 700 breaks RSA authentication for ssh. A point to consider though I'll gladly concede that anyone using RSA keys ought to know what

Re: APT problem

2000-09-02 Thread Craig Sanders
On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 09:31:57PM -0600, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: [Alex Romosan wrote:] which are not on by default and then i have to put the packages on hold because apt wants to get the remote ones. You have to do this anyhow, otherwise the package will get upgraded and you will loose

Re: Machine-specific optimizations

2000-09-02 Thread Craig Sanders
On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 05:45:05PM +0200, Arthur Korn wrote: Is there a convenient way to put a package on hold? I couldn't figure anything out form the dpkg and apt-get manpages. If I have to start dselect every time I want to put something on hold this is certainly not how it should be.

Re: Machine-specific optimizations

2000-09-02 Thread Craig Sanders
On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 12:04:20PM -0400, Robert D. Hilliard wrote: Despite the disclaimer about error checking, I have had good results with it. just paranoia. i've never had a problem with it. the message is there mostly to let people know that it's the kind of tool which makes it real easy

Re: APT problem

2000-09-02 Thread Alex Romosan
Craig Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 09:31:57PM -0600, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: [Alex Romosan wrote:] which are not on by default and then i have to put the packages on hold because apt wants to get the remote ones. You have to do this anyhow, otherwise the

Re: APT problem

2000-09-02 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On 1 Sep 2000, Alex Romosan wrote: with 'apt-get source -b package'. what's the point in having the ability to download the source and recompile it automatically if the next upgrade will wipe it out. if i choose to recompile a package, apt Mostly to compile versions that are not available

Re: Security of Debian SuX0r?

2000-09-02 Thread Joseph Carter
On Sat, Sep 02, 2000 at 03:06:16AM +0200, Peter Palfrader wrote: 751 seems more reasonable IMO. This sounds also reasonable for me. And because of the x-bit UserDirs, etc. should work. Does anyone objects if I change this with the next upload of adduser? Consider that this is only the

Re: Security of Debian SuX0r?

2000-09-02 Thread Ethan Benson
On Sat, Sep 02, 2000 at 01:25:09AM -0400, Adam McKenna wrote: my home directory is mode 710 and ssh works fine, on other systems my home is mode 755 and ssh still works fine (all with RSA auth and StrictModes yes) Actually, sshd only cares about ~/.ssh and ~/.ssh/authorized_keys and

ITP: hlins -- Insert URLs into html documents

2000-09-02 Thread Ralf Treinen
package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Hlins is a tool to insert hypertext links into HTML documents, using a database with entries of the form name = url. It is designed for inserting urls of real persons: it knows about abbreviations of first and middle names and tolerates dropping the second

Re: My recent bug's and continuing effort to debconf-ize Debian

2000-09-02 Thread Herbert Xu
Roland Bauerschmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 07:10:30PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: As I said above, debconf is in standard. Sorry. I didn't know that. Dpkg and apt-cache still claim that it is in optional: Someone needs to update the override file for debconf to become

Re: Security of Debian SuX0r?

2000-09-02 Thread Bernhard R. Link
On Fri, 1 Sep 2000, Roland Bauerschmidt wrote: While we are at it. Kurt critizes that adduser creates home directories readable for all users by default. The woody version has an option in /etc/adduser.conf to change it to any value you want. Shall we make something like 700 default? I

Project Gutenberg

2000-09-02 Thread viral
Hello, I was wondering that the work done by Project Gutenberg (http://sailor.gutenberg.org) should be made available through debian. It would be great to use 'apt' to get all the great work done there. It shouldn't be difficult at all to package. I don't know if this has been discussed earlier

Re: Project Gutenberg

2000-09-02 Thread Ralf Treinen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote I was wondering that the work done by Project Gutenberg (http://sailor.gutenberg.org) should be made available through debian. This came already to discussion some months ago when someone proposed to package the constitution of Finland. The point is that packaging all

Re: Security of Debian SuX0r?

2000-09-02 Thread Peter Palfrader
Hi Ethan! On Fri, 01 Sep 2000, Ethan Benson wrote: On Sat, Sep 02, 2000 at 01:25:09AM -0400, Adam McKenna wrote: my home directory is mode 710 and ssh works fine, on other systems my home is mode 755 and ssh still works fine (all with RSA auth and StrictModes yes) Actually,

Re: ITP: penguin command

2000-09-02 Thread Hugo van der Merwe
Is it possible to play the game without the music? If so you might consider placing it in main with a Recommends: or Suggests: for the non-free music. I read in the policy: In addition, the packages in main * must not require a package outside of main for compilation or

Re: Project Gutenberg

2000-09-02 Thread Robert D. Hilliard
Followup to: debian-legal@lists.debian.org Bcc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert D. Hilliard) Date: 02 Sep 2000 11:00:12 -0400 In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s message of Sat, 2 Sep 2000 14:32:08 +0530 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lines: 55 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 [EMAIL

Re: My recent bug's and continuing effort to debconf-ize Debian

2000-09-02 Thread Steve Robbins
On Fri, 1 Sep 2000, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: c) *eventually* there will be a debconf server(right word?) which network admins can install. This will have the answers stored in it and then when boxes need to know an asnwer, they query debconf and it queries the server. This way, you can do

Re: Project Gutenberg

2000-09-02 Thread Andreas Fuchs
Today, Ralf Treinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote I was wondering that the work done by Project Gutenberg (http://sailor.gutenberg.org) should be made available through debian. This came already to discussion some months ago when someone proposed to package the

Re: Project Gutenberg

2000-09-02 Thread Chris Gray
On Sat, Sep 02, 2000 at 06:10:18PM +0200, Andreas Fuchs wrote: A gutenberg index and retrieval program, OTOH... (mental note: must write this) Have a look at www.gutenbook.org Cheers, Chris -- pick, pack, pock, puck: like drops of water in a fountain falling softly in the brimming bowl.

Debian Port to x86-64

2000-09-02 Thread Gerhard Poul
Was there already a discussion about a x86-64 (64-bit AMDs) port on this list? I haven't found anything and I would like to get some opinions. What do you think? - Is it worth/needed to make this a port with it's own port information page and mailing list? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL

Re: Debian Port to x86-64

2000-09-02 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Gerhard Poul wrote: Was there already a discussion about a x86-64 (64-bit AMDs) port on this list? Somewhat. We've talked with AMD about getting resources for the port. There is a group of people doing the ABI, toolchain and kernel work already, see http://www.x86-64.org/ . What do

Re: gpm and X problem investigated

2000-09-02 Thread Massimo Dal Zotto
Hi! In the recent past, there have been multiple (bug) reports about the behaviour of potato ( woody?) gpm in the presence of X (or vice versa, really). I've done some research, with these results: 1. On slink and probably before (because I don't remember things being differently),

Re: Project Gutenberg

2000-09-02 Thread viral
On Sat, Sep 02, 2000 at 06:10:18PM +0200, Andreas Fuchs wrote: A gutenberg index and retrieval program, OTOH... (mental note: must write this) A search on freshmeat reveals a neat program called gutenbook. Its in perl, and uses perl-gtk. It does indexing and retrieving, and although still in

Re: gpm and X problem investigated

2000-09-02 Thread tony mancill
On Sat, 2 Sep 2000, Massimo Dal Zotto wrote: I had the same problems when using the new defaults (-R ms3 and Intellimouse on /dev/gpmdata). snip 2)use the default gpm repeater type (msc). It is compatible with the old behavior of slink and gpm, and works without problems.

Re: Free Pine?

2000-09-02 Thread Raul Miller
On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 01:26:53PM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: That to me says Debian has permission to re-distribute our modified version, but that people who recieve it from us do not, unless they too ask permission (We do expect and appreciate...). Non-free. If she had written just We

Re: gpm and X problem investigated

2000-09-02 Thread Gerd Knorr
Do we need to start collecting a database of what combinations of configurations work in which situations? iMac + logitech usb wheel mouse: XFree86 3.3.x: Protocol imps/2 Device /dev/usbmouse works fine - including mouse wheel. Protocolmousesystems Device

Re: ITP Fidelio (0.9.2)

2000-09-02 Thread Clay Crouch
On Mon, 7 Aug 2000, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: On Sun, Aug 06, 2000 at 10:17:32PM -0500, Clay Crouch wrote: I Intend To Package the Hotline client, 'fidelio'. yes thats a good idea, i already compiled it cleanly on my potato box so you wont have much problems.. are u going to include some