Re: Qt going GPL ...

2000-09-05 Thread David Starner
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 03:20:40PM -0500, Joseph Carter wrote: On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 04:55:51PM +0200, Jordi Mallach wrote: Who is going to ITP kde ? I guess RevKrusty may want to put his packages into Debian? He already uploaded kdelibs, I didn't see if it was installed. I was

Re: (Beware helix packages) Re: [CrackMonkey] The right to bare legs

2000-09-05 Thread David Starner
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 12:29:32AM +1100, Donovan Baarda wrote: packages into unstable. Helix is too stable for unstable, and too unstable for stable. Not exactly true, as Helix Gnome is usually more cutting-edge than unstable Gnome. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http/ftp:

Re: Qt2.2 released under the GPL

2000-09-05 Thread Jeff Teunissen
Bas Zoetekouw wrote: Thus spake happ ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): enough said http://www.trolltech.com now we can move the ftp://kde.tdyc.com/pub/kde potato kde2 contrib back home Great! Has anyone yet packages available? If not, I'll be willing to ITP some. Qt 2.2 hasn't been released

Re: ITP lame

2000-09-05 Thread Michael Beattie
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 01:03:15PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: lame/vorbis works alright. The problem I'm facing is lack of a good CLI ogg player. Whats wrong with ogg123? -- Michael Beattie ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

Re: Qt going GPL ...

2000-09-05 Thread Michael Beattie
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 04:05:27PM -0500, David Starner wrote: I guess RevKrusty may want to put his packages into Debian? He already uploaded kdelibs, I didn't see if it was installed. I was wondering what happened to it? It didn't appear in the archives, it wasn't moved to REJECT or

Re: ITP lame

2000-09-05 Thread ferret
I have one wav file that when vorbis-encoded does not play correctly with ogg123 but plays with the xmms plugin. Plus there is not any native esd support. On Tue, 5 Sep 2000, Michael Beattie wrote: On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 01:03:15PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: lame/vorbis works

Re: X and runlevels

2000-09-05 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 10:32:07AM +0200, Per Lundberg wrote: How come Debian don't have a non-X runlevel, like some other distributions, in the default configuration? I think this would be pretty convenient. Because no one has ever bothered to write a runlevel policy. -- G. Branden Robinson

Re: ITP lame

2000-09-05 Thread Michael Beattie
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 02:35:00PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have one wav file that when vorbis-encoded does not play correctly with ogg123 but plays with the xmms plugin. Plus there is not any native esd support. My memory is flakey, but I believe there *is* esd support, (libao, a

Re: X and runlevels

2000-09-05 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 02:51:46PM +0200, Paul Slootman wrote: Actually, that used to be a problem (I've had that as well, where an incorrectly configured X e.g. for a different card caused an infinite loop of switching to X and back again, so that you never have the chance of switching with

Qt goes GPL

2000-09-05 Thread Juhapekka Tolvanen
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=00/09/04/134218mode=thread http://freshmeat.net/news/2000/09/04/968126399.html http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/reports/2269/1/ http://www.trolltech.com/company/announce/generalpl.html If that will become true, I'll stop whining about its licence. --

Re: X and runlevels

2000-09-05 Thread Michael Beattie
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 04:43:44PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: The code to do this has existed in xdm for a very long time, but XFree86 always shipped with it turned off. I turned it back on (it just involves a few resource settings for the display manager, see the xdm manpage), and sent

Re: Qt2.2 released under the GPL

2000-09-05 Thread Daniel Burrows
Does anyone else find it ironic that licq-plugin-gtk+ was finally installed into the archive today? Guess it wouldn't be Debian if it was on time ;-) Daniel -- /- Daniel Burrows [EMAIL PROTECTED] -\ |f u cn rd ths, | Put no trust in

Re: X and runlevels

2000-09-05 Thread David Starner
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 09:57:56AM +1200, Michael Beattie wrote: On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 04:43:44PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: Dirk Hohndel basically told me I was an idiot for doing so, because it might unexpectedly terminate the server in the quite common case of four X session logins

Re: X and runlevels

2000-09-05 Thread Michael Beattie
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 05:05:09PM -0500, David Starner wrote: No, I can understand that. - that exact circumstance would occur in our University computer science lab. Regularly too, I might add. I take it this is LART-worthy incident, as I don't think I can load my .xsession in under 6

Re: Qt2.2 released under the GPL

2000-09-05 Thread Michael Beattie
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 06:02:01PM -0400, Daniel Burrows wrote: Does anyone else find it ironic that licq-plugin-gtk+ was finally installed into the archive today? Guess it wouldn't be Debian if it was on time ;-) IIRC, I added the override entry for that within 24 hours of it arriving :P

Re: Qt2.2 released under the GPL

2000-09-05 Thread David Starner
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 06:02:01PM -0400, Daniel Burrows wrote: Does anyone else find it ironic that licq-plugin-gtk+ was finally installed into the archive today? Guess it wouldn't be Debian if it was on time ;-) But licq is free, whether Qt is GPL or QPL. Personally, I switched over to the

Re: Qt going GPL ...

2000-09-05 Thread David Starner
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 09:21:02AM +1200, Michael Beattie wrote: On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 04:05:27PM -0500, David Starner wrote: I guess RevKrusty may want to put his packages into Debian? He already uploaded kdelibs, I didn't see if it was installed. I was wondering what happened

Re: Qt2.2 released under the GPL

2000-09-05 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 10:26:30AM +1200, Michael Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 06:02:01PM -0400, Daniel Burrows wrote: Does anyone else find it ironic that licq-plugin-gtk+ was finally installed into the archive today? Guess it wouldn't be Debian

Re: X and runlevels

2000-09-05 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
On Mon, 04 Sep 2000, Branden Robinson wrote: On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 10:32:07AM +0200, Per Lundberg wrote: How come Debian don't have a non-X runlevel, like some other distributions, in the default configuration? I think this would be pretty convenient. Because no one has ever bothered

Re: Qt2.2 released under the GPL

2000-09-05 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 06:32:10PM -0400, Daniel Burrows [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: Away put your flamethrowers! I mean you no harm! Not that there were any flamethrowers coming out, but this line was too good to pass up. (I think my brain has been addled from too much Nethack,

Re: Bug#70269: automatic build fails for potato

2000-09-05 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Paul Slootman wrote: It would be useful if dpkg-buildpackage checked it then. It will check them in the future, maybe not by default though. Wichert. -- _ / Nothing is fool-proof to a sufficiently talented

Re: Fwd: Re: Help on Debian Project - Need Me?

2000-09-05 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Kyle Lynch wrote: Actually, all im trying to say is, how can I help make icons for projects or at least help maintain the website? Well, I wouldn't mind if you could help me improve the webpages that doc-central generates.. Wichert. --

Re: X and runlevels

2000-09-05 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 09:57:56AM +1200, Michael Beattie wrote: On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 04:43:44PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: The code to do this has existed in xdm for a very long time, but XFree86 always shipped with it turned off. I turned it back on (it just involves a few

Re: build question

2000-09-05 Thread Tom Cato Amundsen
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 07:19:11PM +, michael d. ivey wrote: i'm a new maintainer, and maybe this is better directed at -mentors, or maybe it's in the docs somewhere...if so, just point me that way, please. my main server is potato. is it bad for me to be building packages there if

Re: ITP lame

2000-09-05 Thread Rogerio Brito
On Sep 04 2000, John O Sullivan wrote: I'm surprised that lame hasn't been packaged already. Was it discussed and rejected previously? Well, there aren't official packages AFAIK, but, for instance, I have a reasonably well-made package of lame 3.86beta and I intend to

Re: ITP lame

2000-09-05 Thread Rogerio Brito
On Sep 04 2000, Peter Allen wrote: All vorbis tools are very young, and as most work goes into libvorbis the encoder is missing some features and has a few unwanted features Lame is mature, and although I haven't checked out the ogg encoding bit of lame I guess it has more supported

Re: ITP lame

2000-09-05 Thread Rogerio Brito
On Sep 04 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: lame/vorbis works alright. The problem I'm facing is lack of a good CLI ogg player. See the ogg123 package in woody. It works perfectly well with my potato. Of course the other problem is the code not yet being optimised (and I'm not

Re: build question

2000-09-05 Thread David Starner
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 01:29:02AM +0200, Tom Cato Amundsen wrote: On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 07:19:11PM +, michael d. ivey wrote: i'm a new maintainer, and maybe this is better directed at -mentors, or maybe it's in the docs somewhere...if so, just point me that way, please. my main

Re: Qt going GPL ...

2000-09-05 Thread Joseph Carter
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 04:05:27PM -0500, David Starner wrote: He already uploaded kdelibs, I didn't see if it was installed. I was wondering what happened to it? It didn't appear in the archives, it wasn't moved to REJECT or DONE, it just disappeared. I was wondering if there was some long

Re: X and runlevels

2000-09-05 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 10:25:23AM +1200, Michael Beattie wrote: On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 05:05:09PM -0500, David Starner wrote: No, I can understand that. - that exact circumstance would occur in our University computer science lab. Regularly too, I might add. I take it this is

Re: ITP lame

2000-09-05 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 05:53:32PM -0300, Rogerio Brito [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: Of course the other problem is the code not yet being optimised (and I'm not complaining but..) and bogging down my poor P133. Unfortunately, I have no experience here with older processors

Re: ITP lame

2000-09-05 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 05:48:36PM -0300, Rogerio Brito [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: But I'd really love to see an MP3 encoder in Debian. On the other hand, we now have Vorbis (players, plugins for XMMS and encoders) on woody, so the situation is alleviated. I think

Re: X and runlevels

2000-09-05 Thread Herbert Xu
John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: a) You just made some changes in X that caused it to lock up the display. Magic sysreq got you out alive, but now you would like to boot to a console to fix it. b) Your monitor blew up. You've got a replacement on hand, but it won't work (and

Re: Qt2.2 released under the GPL

2000-09-05 Thread Michael Beattie
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 06:32:10PM -0400, Daniel Burrows wrote: No, it was just an observation of a coincidence that my twisted mind found amusing. :) Yes, I suppose it was amusing :) Away put your flamethrowers! I mean you no harm! I didnt have it out :) --

Re: ITP lame

2000-09-05 Thread Michael Beattie
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 05:48:36PM -0300, Rogerio Brito wrote: But I'd really love to see an MP3 encoder in Debian. On the other hand, we now have Vorbis (players, plugins for XMMS and encoders) on woody, so the situation is alleviated. If it was legal for lame to be

Re: X and runlevels

2000-09-05 Thread Michael Beattie
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 07:36:00PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: lab == lots of people == lots of NCD xterms == lots of quick logins to the DEC Unix server at the beginning of a lab... sheesh Quick logins don't trigger the termination of the server. It's a login, followed by an

Re: Qt going GPL ...

2000-09-05 Thread Michael Beattie
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 05:29:44PM -0500, David Starner wrote: I looked again, and http://incoming.debian.org still doesn't show it. The only things I can think of is that RevKrusty removed the packages himself (to upload versions that don't worry about the QPL-GPL problems), or some

Re: X and runlevels

2000-09-05 Thread Branden Robinson
[you don't have to CC me on messages to debian-devel] On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 01:49:26PM +1200, Michael Beattie wrote: On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 07:36:00PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: lab == lots of people == lots of NCD xterms == lots of quick logins to the DEC Unix server at the

Re: Qt2.2 released under the GPL

2000-09-05 Thread Joseph Carter
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 08:08:33PM +0200, happ wrote: enough said http://www.trolltech.com now we can move the ftp://kde.tdyc.com/pub/kde potato kde2 contrib back home WE WON ! No, we didn't win. Neither did KDE. Troll Tech won this license war. It looks like the rest of us will

Abuse is still being worked on

2000-09-05 Thread Edward Betts
Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you a new debian developer, looking for some packages to maintain? If so, this list is for you. I need to drop some of my simpler packages to make way for other work. All of the below are up for adoption -- just mail me. Otherwise, I will continue to

Re: why apt/dpkg not using bzip2

2000-09-05 Thread Brian May
Arthur == Arthur Korn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Arthur apt-move uses rsync to update it's Packages, and it's a Arthur real improvement over the sledgehammer method. Correction: apt-move [potato version] uses rsync to update it's Packages [...]. As of woody, this is no longer true.

Re: My recent bug's and continuing effort to debconf-ize Debian

2000-09-05 Thread Brian May
Jürgen == Jürgen A Erhard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jürgen *If* there's some *valid* reason not to store something Jürgen in a *root-readable* DB, make it put it somewhere else. Jürgen In the end, it *gets stored anyway. Not always the case. eg consider a package for a

Re: Qt going GPL ...

2000-09-05 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 01:53:30PM +1200, Michael Beattie wrote: On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 05:29:44PM -0500, David Starner wrote: I looked again, and http://incoming.debian.org still doesn't show it. The only things I can think of is that RevKrusty removed the packages himself (to upload

Re: Qt going GPL ...

2000-09-05 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
Still in incoming... dont look at me :) I looked again, and http://incoming.debian.org still doesn't show it. The only things I can think of is that RevKrusty removed the packages himself (to upload versions that don't worry about the QPL-GPL problems), or some terribly freaky bug in

Re: Qt going GPL ...

2000-09-05 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 09:20:05PM +0200, Andreas Rottmann wrote: Hugues Marilleau [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Who is going to ITP kde ? I'm dreaming about an apt-get install kde ... Rather task-kde ;-) (SCNR) already have one. :) -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL

Re: X and runlevels

2000-09-05 Thread Gerfried Fuchs
On 04 Sep 2000, Brian Mays [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not quite. The FHS briefly mentions *System V's* runlevel 2 and 3 (along with Berkley's multiuser state). It does not specify anything about runlevels for Linux or any other OS. O.k., you're right - it was on linuxbase.org. Which we

Re: (Beware helix packages) Re: [CrackMonkey] The right to bare legs

2000-09-05 Thread Joseph Carter
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 04:06:49PM -0500, David Starner wrote: packages into unstable. Helix is too stable for unstable, and too unstable for stable. Not exactly true, as Helix Gnome is usually more cutting-edge than unstable Gnome. In my experience, it's had a bug report to fix

Re: Qt going GPL ...

2000-09-05 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: KDE2 is doing alot with ssl stuff...konqueror, kmail, etc...kdelibs builds against libssl so it's in non-US. Can you do a non-ssl version too for main? Otherwise American CD manufacturers aren't going to be able to include it and therefore the

Re: Qt going GPL ...

2000-09-05 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 01:44:06AM -0400, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: KDE2 is doing alot with ssl stuff...konqueror, kmail, etc...kdelibs builds against libssl so it's in non-US. Can you do a non-ssl version too for main? Otherwise American CD

Re: (Beware helix packages) Re: [CrackMonkey] The right to bare legs

2000-09-05 Thread Joey Hess
Joseph Carter wrote: Software has bugs, it's a fact of life. New software is more likely to have unknown bugs that affect more people. What makes the Helix packages so nice is the turnaround time for fixes. I don't know how they do it, but they do. Maybe they have a dinstall delay of less

Re: Qt going GPL ...

2000-09-05 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: in the meantime I'll work on splitting off 2 seperate packages..1 with ssl and 1 without. It may be easier just to build it twice, once with SSL and once without. That's what I'm going to do. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To

Re: (Beware helix packages) Re: [CrackMonkey] The right to bare legs

2000-09-05 Thread Joseph Carter
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 11:54:05PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: Software has bugs, it's a fact of life. New software is more likely to have unknown bugs that affect more people. What makes the Helix packages so nice is the turnaround time for fixes. I don't know how they do it, but they do.

Re: Qt going GPL ...

2000-09-05 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 01:53:12AM -0400, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: in the meantime I'll work on splitting off 2 seperate packages..1 with ssl and 1 without. It may be easier just to build it twice, once with SSL and once without. That's

Re: Free Pine?

2000-09-05 Thread Richard Stallman
I don't either--but that is not the point. The point is that the U of W has actually threatened to sue the FSF for distributing a modified version of a program that was released under the same words. Personally, I'm still in the process of confirming this. I hope that the U of

Re: build question

2000-09-05 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 01:29:02AM +0200, Tom Cato Amundsen wrote: If possible, your package should depend on packages in potato only. Then users won't be forced to install other unstable packages, just to try out your package. What if your package won't compile against the libraries in woody?

OT Re: /bin/ksh as a default POSIX shell

2000-09-05 Thread Ulf Jaenicke-Roessler
On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, Michael Beattie wrote: On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 01:19:08AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 08:54:25AM +0300, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: Um, why send such a message to a widely-read mailing-list? As a joke... Im damned curious.. what did

db.debian.org (was: libgd1 vs. libgd1g)

2000-09-05 Thread Paul Slootman
On Mon 04 Sep 2000, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: Nondevelopers do not have access to the away information in db.d.o. Ugh. They _are_ presented with a form where the on vacation box can be checked, and the subsequent search simply returns 0, no errors explaining that this info can't be

ITP kdoc - C++ and IDL Source Documentation System

2000-09-05 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
Description: C++ and IDL Source Documentation System KDOC creates cross-referenced documentation for C++ and CORBA IDL libraries directly from the source. Documentation can be embedded in special doccomments in the source. -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: X and runlevels

2000-09-05 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: and sent patches to XFree86 a long time ago, but the patch was ignored, and Dirk Hohndel basically told me I was an idiot for doing so, because it might unexpectedly terminate the server in the quite common case of four X session logins in a row

ITP or rather upload... KDE

2000-09-05 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
Ok...I leave for an extended weekend and Troll get's freaky on me! :) Since I've been basically doing this unofficially for almost 2 years now working with Stephan Kulow who was the maintainer/developer and who has since passed it on to me due to time and the fact he's not running woody and

ITP: unixodbc

2000-09-05 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
Description: ODBC tools libraries Binaries and libraries from the unixODBC package. COMPONENTS: . 1. libodbc.so (ODBC Driver Manager) 2. ODBCConfig (GUI Setup using libodbcinst.so) 3. libodbcinst.so (ODBC Installer/Setup) 4. odbcinst(cmd line UI for libodbcinst.so)

Re: ITP: unixodbc

2000-09-05 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, 5 Sep 2000, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: Description: ODBC tools libraries Binaries and libraries from the unixODBC package. COMPONENTS: . 15. libodbcpgsql.so (driver for PostgreSQL) How does it correspond to the current ODBC driver of PostgreSQL? 18. isql(cmd line tool...

galeon CVS debian packages ; building debs for M18?

2000-09-05 Thread Jared Johnson
I've started making debian packages of the latest galeon CVS trees available over at: http://silverchair.futureks.net/~solomon/galeon/ The 0.7.3 deb available there has been slightly enhanced as well, see the changelog.Debian. Potato users will probably want to read

alternatives for MUA and NUA?

2000-09-05 Thread Gerfried Fuchs
Hi! Today I stumbled across my .muttrc and found that I've hardcoded the pager (w3m ;) and the editor (vim :) into it. On the other hand I find the alternatives-mechanismus really useful so I changed it to pager and editor which works really fine. Now there doesn't seem to be an

Re: Qt going GPL ...

2000-09-05 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Ivan E. Moore II wrote: I just need to find out whether kdelibs reports to kdebase during compile time whether it was built against ssl or not... With the current dpkg-shlibdeps it will since kdelibs will pull in the ssl libraries and ldd will report that. Provided that you link

Going to vacation, make NMUs if needed

2000-09-05 Thread Rene Mayrhofer
Hi all I am going to vacation for the next 3 weeks, so if there is anything wrong with one of my packages (pptpd, logcheck, mkinitrd-cd) then please feel free to do NMUs. best greets, Rene -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL

Re: OT Re: /bin/ksh as a default POSIX shell

2000-09-05 Thread Michael Beattie
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 10:03:56AM +0200, Ulf Jaenicke-Roessler wrote: Saved to branden.asc and 'gpg -d branden.asc' results in gpg: CRC error; 72a653 - dc372a gpg: quoted printable character in armor - probably a buggy MTA has been used Well, I was able to repair and read it. Even if I

Re: OT Re: /bin/ksh as a default POSIX shell

2000-09-05 Thread Ulf Jaenicke-Roessler
On Tue, 5 Sep 2000, Michael Beattie wrote: It was meant as a joke... so go ahead :) That's why I did not really complain about it ;-) Im not sure why he encrypted to you though. Yeah, I also thought that you should have received this ;-)) (because you asked for it, that is) Ulf

Re: alternatives for MUA and NUA?

2000-09-05 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 12:52:51PM +0200, Gerfried Fuchs wrote: Now there doesn't seem to be an alternative for the MUAs or the NUAs. I'd really like to have that in there so that packages like pinfo or muttzilla (just for an example) could work out of the box without needing to twitch with

Re: ITP lame

2000-09-05 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Sep 05, Michael Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If it was legal for lame to be distributed with debian, I can tell you now, it would be in the archive overnight. - But it isnt, so it wont. We have pandora for that, and I remember Wichert agreed to this use. What still needs to be done to

QT-GPL

2000-09-05 Thread Kenneth Scharf
Just read on Linuxtoday.com that trolltech will license QT under the GPL. Guess the 'river was lowered' instead of 'raising the bridge' (old Jerry Lewis movie title) so KDE can now go in main for Woody, right? = Amateur Radio, when all else fails! http://www.qsl.net/wa2mze Debian Gnu

Re: (Beware helix packages) Re: [CrackMonkey] The right to bare legs

2000-09-05 Thread Peter Teichman
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 12:29:32AM +1100, Donovan Baarda wrote: I believe the infamous aalib affair actualy came out of a wishlist bugreport submitted to them by a user; the then frozen potato aalib was too low a version to meet all the helix dependencies. This meant people like me had to pull

ITP: gpppkill -- GTK ppp throughput graph and ppp kill utility

2000-09-05 Thread Timshel Knoll
Package: wnpp Version: N/A; reported 2000-09-06 Severity: wishlist gpppkill is a small GTK+ program which displays a graph of ppp link usage and also has options to kill pppd after a specified time of low link usage, or after a given amount of time. License is GPL. -- System Information Debian

Re: alternatives for MUA and NUA?

2000-09-05 Thread Andreas Fuchs
Today, Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do most mail readers have the same command line interface? Perhaps, but I really doubt that news readers do. Not even mail readers do, AFAIK. Console readers have the mail(1) interface to stick to, but if it comes to an x MUA... It would really

Re: ITP or rather upload... KDE

2000-09-05 Thread Mircea Luca
Hi Will it be a kde2 for potato or only for woody? Ofcourse assuming that KDE2 will be out before woody.:-) -- The best way to escape from a problem is to solve it. Alan Saporta My waste of cyberspace= http://deepblue.dyndns.org :-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a

No german umlauts in console and xterm

2000-09-05 Thread Florian Hinzmann
Hi! I tried to fix an old problem with my Debian system (woody) today, but failed. When typing german umlauts my system behaves inconsistent: In most X programs they appear fine (i.e. Netscape, several mail clients, XEmacs, ..) When typing in xterm|gnome-terminal windows they don't appear.

Re: alternatives for MUA and NUA?

2000-09-05 Thread Gerfried Fuchs
On 05 Sep 2000, Andreas Fuchs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Today, Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do most mail readers have the same command line interface? Perhaps, but I really doubt that news readers do. *scratches* Uhm, right, I haven't thought about that *damnit* It sounded so

Re: Free Pine?

2000-09-05 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Raul Miller wrote: On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 01:26:53PM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: That to me says Debian has permission to re-distribute our modified version, but that people who recieve it from us do not, unless they too ask permission (We do expect and appreciate...). Non-free. If

Re: No german umlauts in console and xterm

2000-09-05 Thread J.A. Bezemer
On Tue, 5 Sep 2000, Florian Hinzmann wrote: When typing german umlauts my system behaves inconsistent: In most X programs they appear fine (i.e. Netscape, several mail clients, XEmacs, ..) When typing in xterm|gnome-terminal windows they don't appear. Some chars do beep, but none of

postgresql+apache+php4+pgsql.so+pg_exec()=apache segfaults

2000-09-05 Thread Domenico Andreoli
what to say more? i'm developing keysign.php, which is the php scrip that manages debian key signing coordination page (http://oink.cc.ntu.edu.tw/~cklin/signing/). keysign.php is pretty finished and functioning, at least on woody. but chuan-kay lin, the server administrator of

ITP: SkipStone

2000-09-05 Thread Brian Almeida
Skipstone is a GTK+ webbrowser that uses mozilla's embed features. It is similar to galeon only it is pure GTK+, no GNOME. The author asked me to make packages of it, and I have uploaded it into Debian. It is placed under the GPL. See http://www.muhri.net/skipstone/ for more info. -- Brian

Re: Free Pine?

2000-09-05 Thread Raul Miller
There's no legal difference between Debian and people who recieve it from us. [Legally, there's no such entity as Debian.] Nor is there a difference from the viewpoint of our social contract. On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 10:35:49AM -0400, Peter S Galbraith wrote: Then why do we have DSFG #8

Re: ITP lame

2000-09-05 Thread David Starner
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 02:06:38PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: On Sep 05, Michael Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If it was legal for lame to be distributed with debian, I can tell you now, it would be in the archive overnight. - But it isnt, so it wont. We have pandora for that, and I

Re: ITP lame

2000-09-05 Thread Bart Schuller
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 10:10:49AM -0500, David Starner wrote: The problem is not patents, it's that this particular patent also applies in Germany, meaning we can't distribute from non-us either. Yes we can, but not to or from Germany. Non-US is in The Netherlands, which doesn't have software

Re: No german umlauts in console and xterm

2000-09-05 Thread Karsten Tinnefeld
When typing german umlauts my system behaves inconsistent: When typing in xterm|gnome-terminal windows they don't appear. Some chars do beep, but none of the umlauts appear. The following code in your .bashrc should cure this, see stty(1): if tty -s then stty pass8 fi You should

Re: build question

2000-09-05 Thread Arthur Korn
David Starner schrieb: On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 01:29:02AM +0200, Tom Cato Amundsen wrote: On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 07:19:11PM +, michael d. ivey wrote: my main server is potato. is it bad for me to be building packages there if they are destined for woody? should i start building on

Re: ITP lame

2000-09-05 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Tue, 5 Sep 2000, Bart Schuller wrote: The problem is not patents, it's that this particular patent also applies in Germany, meaning we can't distribute from non-us either. Yes we can, but not to or from Germany. Non-US is in The Netherlands, which doesn't have software patents. The

Re: Free Pine?

2000-09-05 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Peter S Galbraith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Then why do we have DSFG #8 `License Must Not Be Specific to Debian' if there is no Debian? There *is* a Debian. But it's not a legal *person*, it's a *work*. It is possible to write up a license that says, for example, that copies of program X may

Re: ITP: SkipStone

2000-09-05 Thread Peter Teichman
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 11:03:07AM -0400, Brian Almeida wrote: Skipstone is a GTK+ webbrowser that uses mozilla's embed features. It is similar to galeon only it is pure GTK+, no GNOME. The author asked me to make packages of it, and I have uploaded it into Debian. It is placed under the

Re: ITP: SkipStone

2000-09-05 Thread Samuel Hocevar
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000, Brian Almeida wrote: Skipstone is a GTK+ webbrowser that uses mozilla's embed features. It is similar to galeon only it is pure GTK+, no GNOME. The author asked me to make packages of it, and I have uploaded it into Debian. It is placed under the GPL. See

Re: ITP: SkipStone

2000-09-05 Thread Brian Almeida
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 11:42:56AM -0400, Peter Teichman wrote: On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 11:03:07AM -0400, Brian Almeida wrote: Skipstone is a GTK+ webbrowser that uses mozilla's embed features. It is similar to galeon only it is pure GTK+, no GNOME. The author asked me to make packages of

Re: ITP: SkipStone

2000-09-05 Thread Ben Pfaff
Brian Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mozilla was relicensed under the GPL... Not quite, as I understand it: Mozilla is *in process* of being relicensed under GPL. All contributors have to be contacted to verify agreement first. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject

Bug#70948: ITP: ifinnish-small, ifinnish-huge

2000-09-05 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist New versions of ispell-fi (binary packages wfinnish and ifinnish) have three sizes for the spelling dictionary: small, medium and large. Their differences are in the number of words and word forms recognized and in the disk space and memory requirements for

Re: ITP: SkipStone

2000-09-05 Thread Brian Almeida
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 05:48:17PM +0200, Samuel Hocevar wrote: On Tue, Sep 05, 2000, Brian Almeida wrote: Skipstone is a GTK+ webbrowser that uses mozilla's embed features. It is similar to galeon only it is pure GTK+, no GNOME. The author asked me to make packages of it, and I have

WTF does zsh 3.1.9 does in potato-proposed-updates ?

2000-09-05 Thread Philippe Troin
Why a new zsh was introduced in potato-proposed-updates ? It's not compatible with thw previous version... I thought potato-proposed-updates was just about severe bugfixes... Phil. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: ITP lame

2000-09-05 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Adrian == Adrian Bunk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Adrian The non-US server is only for packages that include Adrian cryptographic program code. Adrian non-US has NOTHING to do with patents or other restrictions Adrian on the use of the packages. You are even allowed to use these Adrian

Re: ITP lame

2000-09-05 Thread Bart Schuller
[this is debian-devel, where we don't Cc unless explicitly asked] On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 05:24:12PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: The policy says about non-US: 2.1.5. The non-us server That's in the context of how to categorize a package, not a list of Debian machines

Re: ITP lame

2000-09-05 Thread Buddha Buck
At 07:40 PM 9/5/00 +0200, Bart Schuller wrote: What frustrates me is that there's software that's - useful - free - legal (at least for quite a few millions of people) but not officially available for Debian. I understand fully that using the name non-US for patent-encumbered software is wrong.

Re: apt and multiple connections

2000-09-05 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, Russell Coker wrote: I would like to transfer several files at a time to enable usable throughput through slow web caches. Is there any way this can be done? If not can this feature be added? If I recall it isn't too hard, but it isn't there specificly to prevent yahoos

Re: No german umlauts in console and xterm

2000-09-05 Thread Miros/law `Jubal' Baran
5.09.2000 pisze Florian Hinzmann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): [symptomata snipped] Let me ask you one question: how did you set the `locale' variables (LANG, LC_MESSAGES, LC_CTYPE and another LC_* companions)? I can type umlauts without any problems, under console and X (having pl_PL locale set, which

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