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Late, by hey, what the hell...
Joey == Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Joey In other words, if you can have a religious war over it, we
Joey need an alternative. I have never seen a religious war over
Joey man. :-)
Tom Christiansen has been known to get into them. But then
On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 10:16:42AM +0100, Florian Hinzmann wrote:
On 03-Jan-2001 Paul Hedderly wrote:
On Mon, Jan 01, 2001 at 11:37:17AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Who recalls a cddb access program designed for blind people where
cddb.com DENIED a certification because the program
Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[ Moving to -devel. ]
Fabrizio Polacco wrote:
It's written everywhere: DON'T RUN MAN AS ROOT!
Having no idea where it moved from or what the context was I'll blithely wade
in with an opinion:
Just because the bug is documented doesn't mean it's not a
I'm doing some code which is intended to work on linux and sunos. I
was poking through the header files in /usr/include on my debian box
and found a line in g++-3/stl_config.h which specified:
#if defined(__linux__)
after a quick test, I found out this is true on linux, and not true on
solaris
On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 11:05:54PM -0800, Aaron Brashears wrote:
| I'm doing some code which is intended to work on linux and sunos. I
| was poking through the header files in /usr/include on my debian box
| and found a line in g++-3/stl_config.h which specified:
|
| #if defined(__linux__)
|
* Manoj Srivastava
| You missed the point by a lot. OK, here it is all speeled out:
No, I didn't. I told you that gnus has a way around it. Which isn't
perfect, but quite good. And of course it's a hack and a workaround -
I am not saying that setting reply-to on a mailing list is the
* Stephane Bortzmeyer
| On Monday 8 January 2001, at 9 h 5, the keyboard of Tollef Fog Heen
| [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
|
| I intend to package mboxgrep, a utility which greps mailboxes.
|
| BTW, we already have sgrep, which is fine for that purpose.
Does it support both simple regexps,
On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 11:05:54PM -0800, Aaron Brashears wrote:
While on the topic, is there a
magic preprocessor definition that lets me know if I'm on
sunos/solaris?
yes indeedy. multiple.
there is __sun__ to detect solarisORsunos, and __svr4__ to detect
solaris specifically, I
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 02:06:52PM +1100, Sam Couter wrote:
Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If we're expected to avoid any advanced features, why do the authors bother
to implement them?
http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/jargon/html/entry/creeping-featuritis.html
So, what's your point
On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 08:25:53AM -0800, Aaron Lehmann wrote:
On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 10:17:42AM -0600, Vince Mulhollon wrote:
waiting for DAM approval, whenever that is supposed to happen (emphasis
on the supposed to happen)
No offense to the DAM, but I share Eray's pedicament and feel
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 03:04:10AM +0800, zhaoway wrote:
A big package index IMHO is the current bottleneck of Debian package system.
What is the real problem with the large package files? They take a long
time to download, but so do emacs and other bloatware.
Hamish
--
Hamish Moffatt VK3SB
Hi Hamish!
You wrote:
If you're in the keyring but have no account you can upload
through an upload queue. There are a few of those around the world.
This adds probably 1 day to the processing time.
How can you be on the keyring while not having an account on auric?
Either you are a
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 06:16:54AM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote:
To summarize what has been happening in debian-devel,
The maintainer of tar has decided he wants to change the meaning of
Please be careful with your wording -- the upstream author has
made this change, not the debian
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 09:59:39AM +0100, Bas Zoetekouw wrote:
You wrote:
If you're in the keyring but have no account you can upload
through an upload queue. There are a few of those around the world.
This adds probably 1 day to the processing time.
How can you be on the keyring while
Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What is the real problem with the large package files? They take a long
time to download, but so do emacs and other bloatware.
Yeah, but how often do you download emacs?
The packages file gets downloaded _every single time_ you do an update,
and for
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 08:03:40PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
How can you be on the keyring while not having an account on auric?
Either you are a developer and you have both, or you are not a developer
and you have neither.
Probably you can't. I don't know the NM process well enough to
** On Jan 09, Marcin Owsiany scribbled:
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 08:03:40PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
How can you be on the keyring while not having an account on auric?
Either you are a developer and you have both, or you are not a developer
and you have neither.
Probably you
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 08:53:50PM -0500, John Goerzen wrote:
FYI, I don't plan to package up 1.5.x until upstream brands it stable.
That sounds good. Better a version with lack of functionality then a version
that messes with the economic files... They can be quite important. :)
// Ola
--
Zdenek Kabelac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[snip]
I've just placed there the latest version of avifile
(surprisingly the one in CVS is older)
Anyway for now I've used the name of the tar archive so for
the dpkg this archive looks older (0.53-1)
I'm not sure if I should use the release number
Zdenek Kabelac [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
But in this case - maybe downloading script would be legal for Debian ?
(just like for realplayer ? - or do you think Debian user should never
see any DivX-ed movie ?)
Well, AFAICS the installer would cp *.dll /usr/lib/win32/ or something
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 06:04:58PM +0900, Miles Bader wrote:
Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What is the real problem with the large package files? They take a long
time to download, but so do emacs and other bloatware.
Yeah, but how often do you download emacs?
Never, I wouldn't
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 11:08:56AM +, Julian Gilbey wrote:
Most weird. I get this behaviour when running through a setuid root
strace, but I don't get the error messages (and hence the content of
/etc/shadow) when I don't use strace. I'm still running potato.
I have some more oddities to
On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 11:05:54PM -0800, Aaron Brashears wrote:
I'm doing some code which is intended to work on linux and sunos. I
was poking through the header files in /usr/include on my debian box
and found a line in g++-3/stl_config.h which specified:
#if defined(__linux__)
after a
hi,
On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 06:24:44PM +0100, Andreas Fuchs wrote:
Today, Gerfried Fuchs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
-) Or, during a short period (say, 2 months or so?) both fields could
be there, and icq should really be dropped.
Or, they could both be there (if space permits) with the ICQ
Tom,
the sitecopy package is heavily out of date. sitecopy in sid is at 0.9.10
(the upstream release as of Apr 2000). Since then, there were more than ten
new upstream releases with various major improvements. The most recent
upstream version is now 0.10.12.
The bug page for sitecopy lists
On Mon, 8 Jan 2001, Rene Mayrhofer wrote:
[snip]
Could you please run dpkg-scanpackages, and dpkg-scansources, so that we can
use apt to install this stuff? Txs.
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Where could I get one? Thanks!
Even no package for it is okay! ;)
--
echo EOF |cpp - -|egrep -v '(^#|^$)'
/* =|=X ++
* /\+_ p7 [EMAIL PROTECTED] */
EOF
Goswin Brederlow wrote:
gzip --rsyncable, aloready implemented, ask Rusty Russell.
The --rsyncable switch might yield the same result (I haven't
checked it sofar) but will need some internal knowledge how to
determine the old compression.
As far as I understand the
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 01:41:41PM +0100, Christoph Baumann wrote:
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 11:08:56AM +, Julian Gilbey wrote:
Most weird. I get this behaviour when running through a setuid root
strace, but I don't get the error messages (and hence the content of
/etc/shadow) when I
On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 10:46:09PM +, Philip Blundell wrote:
Pierfrancesco Caci [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
connect(4, {sin_family=AF_INET6, sin6_port=htons(1025), inet_pton(AF_INET6,
f
e80::250:4ff:fe38:a630, sin6_addr), sin6_flowinfo=htonl(0)}}, 24) = -1
EINVA
L (Invalid argument)
D-Man wrote:
On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 11:05:54PM -0800, Aaron Brashears wrote:
| I'm doing some code which is intended to work on linux and sunos. I
| was poking through the header files in /usr/include on my debian box
| and found a line in g++-3/stl_config.h which specified:
|
| #if
Package: perl-5.6
Severity: critical
Scenario: Install new machine with potato. Configure all packages that come
with a default minimal install. Run dpkg --get-selections on a working
half-potato/half-sid machine. Run dpkg --set-selections on the new
machine. apt-get dselect-upgrade. perl
From: Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: big Packages.gz file
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 23:40:01 +1100
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 06:04:58PM +0900, Miles Bader wrote:
The packages file gets downloaded _every single time_ you do an update,
and for those of us with a slow modem link, that
From: Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: big Packages.gz file
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 19:59:13 +1100
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 03:04:10AM +0800, zhaoway wrote:
A big package index IMHO is the current bottleneck of Debian package system.
What is the real problem with the large package
On Tuesday 09 January 2001 03:17, Vince Mulhollon wrote:
5) A Debian Developer will never knowingly run a production server on
unstable and will never encourage a non-developer to run unstable.
I understand that people don't like being told what to do and agree that it
isn't the place of
http://people.debian.org/~psg/debian-changelog-mode.el
Roland Mas packaged it about the same time Rob agreed to
include it in emacsen-common, so I'm not sure what's going to
happen.
Peter
zhaoway wrote:
Where could I get one? Thanks!
Even no package for it is okay! ;)
Hmm, isn't sid called UNSTABLE, that means that if you want use it, there
is a risk that things aren't exactly perfect (don't take perfect to
seriously).
Not that long ago I upgraded one of my machines from woody to sid, now
it's running perl 5.6 and I didn't have any trouble upgrading at all!
Hi
Andres Seco Hernandez schrieb:
Are local? facilities reserved in Debian for some purpose?
I'm not aware of any reserved local facilities, however system
log daemons provide the syslog-facility(8) script which may be
used by packages to dynamically retrieve and set up a local
facility (eg
On Tue, 9 Jan 2001, Ron Rademaker wrote:
Hmm, isn't sid called UNSTABLE, that means that if you want use it, there
is a risk that things aren't exactly perfect (don't take perfect to
seriously).
Not that long ago I upgraded one of my machines from woody to sid, now
it's running perl 5.6 and
Hi Adam!
You wrote:
ANY package that is needed by the packaging system(and this does not only
include dpkg support scripts, but debconf, and some maintainer scripts,
including adduser) biblinkNEEDS TO NOT BREAK PERIOD./blink/i/b
Please calm down. If your specific thing doesn't work, OK,
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 04:50:05PM +0100, Ron Rademaker wrote:
Hmm, isn't sid called UNSTABLE, that means that if you want use it, there
is a risk that things aren't exactly perfect (don't take perfect to
seriously).
That doesn't solve that perl's official maintainer broke the packages quite
On Tue, 9 Jan 2001, Jordi Mallach wrote:
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 04:50:05PM +0100, Ron Rademaker wrote:
Hmm, isn't sid called UNSTABLE, that means that if you want use it, there
is a risk that things aren't exactly perfect (don't take perfect to
seriously).
That doesn't solve that
On Tue, 9 Jan 2001, Ron Rademaker wrote:
I checked BTS and the bug wasn't in BTS.
Because the indices only run every 12 hours. Check 81679.
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I'm not sure if this would be the correct List to
post a question such was this. but.
we use Linux as the server on a Embedded DOS
client-server environment.
the devices runningembedded Initiate a
communication with the Linux server. Our Daemon on the Linux box responds with
a single
From: SEKIDO Koichi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: ITP: doc-debian-ja -- Debian FAQ and other documents (Japanese)
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 17:31:01 +0900 (JST)
Package: doc-debian-ja
Severity: wishlist
Oops, I reassigned this bug report (#81568) to wnpp.
--
SEKIDO Koichi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, Jan 10, 2001 at 02:34:39AM +1100, Russell Coker wrote:
But I think that there is some merit to having discouragement towards running
unstable on production machines. I've been getting flamed immensely recently
about my lilo package that over-wrote lilo.conf incorrectly. Even
On Wed, Jan 10, 2001 at 02:34:39AM +1100, Russell Coker wrote:
1) This situation does not stop a running machine from working, it will only
stop it from booting.
Oh, well, as long as THAT'S all it is...
--
G. Branden Robinson | Experience should teach us to be most on
Debian
(what does this have to do with Debian package development?)
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 11:14:23AM -0500, Derrick (Thrawn01) wrote:
I'm not sure if this would be the correct List to post a question such was
this. but.
we use Linux as the server on a Embedded DOS client-server environment.
Yes, this would be the wrong list.
I suppose you need to research the following:
0) Your email refers to a client server system, and mentions embedded dos,
a linux server, and a linux client. So a client/server architecture has
two parts, and your system has three parts, an embedded DOS thing,
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 10:16:09AM -0600, Adam Heath wrote:
On Tue, 9 Jan 2001, Ron Rademaker wrote:
I checked BTS and the bug wasn't in BTS.
Because the indices only run every 12 hours. Check 81679.
I thought the reason for switching from the generated HTML to CGIs was so that
the
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 11:23:08AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
On Wed, Jan 10, 2001 at 02:34:39AM +1100, Russell Coker wrote:
1) This situation does not stop a running machine from working, it will
only
stop it from booting.
Oh, well, as long as THAT'S all it is...
Heh, it's not
Hi all,
I just read the thread on finishing the move to
/usr/share/doc. I've been a Debian user for a couple
of years now and would like to find small ways to
help... This sounds like something I can do in my
spare time.
I'd be interested in performing the necessary work on
some packages if
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 11:40:01PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 06:04:58PM +0900, Miles Bader wrote:
Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What is the real problem with the large package files? They take a long
time to download, but so do emacs and other
Peter S Galbraith (2001-01-09 10:44:39 -0500) :
http://people.debian.org/~psg/debian-changelog-mode.el
Roland Mas packaged it about the same time Rob agreed to include it
in emacsen-common, so I'm not sure what's going to happen.
It's just been uploaded to a queue (erlangen if I'm any
On Tue, 9 Jan 2001, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
I thought the reason for switching from the generated HTML to CGIs was so that
the pages could be dynamically generated, and we wouldn't have this problem.
you're correct, that is the reason. But the indices take too long to fully
dynamically
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 11:42:06AM -0600, Adam Heath wrote:
On Tue, 9 Jan 2001, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
I thought the reason for switching from the generated HTML to CGIs was so
that the pages could be dynamically generated, and we wouldn't have this
problem.
you're correct, that is the
On Tue, 9 Jan 2001, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
It's long past time that the BTS had a real database backend. Since the code
is being actively worked on, I assume there are reasons why this isn't
feasible
yet. Do you know what they are? Is there any way I can help?
I have code that imports the
Derrick (Thrawn01) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
the devices running embedded Initiate a communication with the Linux
server. Our Daemon on the Linux box responds with
a single packet containing the Transaction information. directly after that
packet the Linux box sends a packet containing , 8
On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 01:59:21PM -0800, Kenneth Scharf wrote:
Does anyone have any ideas on
this, or has it been done already?
I haven't tried at all but I can tell you that xmms has an option called Disk
Writer Plugin
at the output plugins. Type ctrl-P while you use xmms.
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 02:22:45PM +0100, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
Just as a side note, think twice (or even thrice) before using that symbols.
Is the code really linux specific? For example, a Linux kernel feature
certainly is, but many other things aren't. Often it is more appropriate
to
The devfsd package could also use an NMU or two. It has apparently been
ignored by Tom Lee for months. Almost all of its bugs appear to be
fairly trivial, and he's only responded to one of the 11 open bugs (and
that response was three months ago).
I'm not trying to 'dis' Tom; he may very well
Today, Mark Mealman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
1) This situation does not stop a running machine from working, it
will only stop it from booting.
Oh, well, as long as THAT'S all it is...
Heh, it's not like you're rebooting a Linux box more than one a year
anyway
Only applies if you use
Hi!
I have just had a trip to boot up a server after an upgrade to our new lilo
package, it was my fault to not know wich of the lilo's options were really
needed, but the question is...
I think the new lilo's defaults are less compatible than de old ones,
wouldn't it make more sense to default
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 02:26:32PM +0100, Martin Bialasinski wrote:
tar in potato uses -I for bzip2. So far, tar -I won't be bzip2 in
woody, the next stable.
I wonder how other linux distributions will handle this. Would it
be possible for potato, to support -j as well to ease the
transition to
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 01:08:10PM +0100, Zdenek Kabelac wrote:
In this case - Should I copy these libraries to /usr/lib/win32 or
should I select probably more apropriate place like /usr/local/lib
(or even better - I would preffer to use 'stow' package for this - as in
my eyes only the
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 11:54:23AM -0600, Adam Heath wrote:
On Tue, 9 Jan 2001, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
It's long past time that the BTS had a real database backend. Since the
code is being actively worked on, I assume there are reasons why this isn't
feasible yet. Do you know what they
On Wed, Jan 10, 2001 at 02:34:39AM +1100, Russell Coker wrote:
| I don't think that unstable should be limited to Debian developers, but I
| think that it should be restricted to discourage people who aren't reading
| debian-devel. What if we setup the servers to use a different random
|
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 09:09:06PM +0100, Ingo Saitz wrote:
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 02:26:32PM +0100, Martin Bialasinski wrote:
tar in potato uses -I for bzip2. So far, tar -I won't be bzip2 in
woody, the next stable.
I wonder how other linux distributions will handle this. Would it
be
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 09:29:46AM -0500, Ben Collins wrote:
Potato is not vulnerable. This is a woody/sid only bug (i.e. glibc
2.1.9x and greater, such as the 2.2 in woody/sid). The bug is not that
it prints this info, but that it uses the env variable even when
suid/sgid. This wasn't
On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 09:59:45PM +0100, Ralf Treinen wrote:
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Kimberlite is a complete framework providing high availability for
application services on Linux. The key features of the architecture
Which licence? -Ralf.
Sorry, I forgot to mention it.
I'm planning to package TADS, which is a system for writing or playing
text games similar to the Z-code system (inform, xzip/frotz/etc). The
license is non-free.
--
Daniel Schepler Please don't disillusion me. I
[EMAIL PROTECTED]haven't had breakfast yet.
Hi Thierry,
For the broader LSM, I can do an embedded systems course, using the
text of my series Building Tiny Linux Systems which is running in
Embedded Linux Journal. The text of the series is being released
under the GFDL.
For the Debian part of the meeting, I could say something about use
sluncho == sluncho [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
sluncho How hard would it be to make daily diffs of the Package
sluncho file? Most people running unstable update every other day
sluncho and this will require downloading and applying only a
sluncho couple of diff files.
sluncho
I'm satisfied with this solution, and will work with Paul to deliver an
implementation for Debian as soon as possible.
Bdale
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On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 09:09:06PM +0100, Ingo Saitz wrote:
option? Is -j fixed for the next stable tar version or will it
probably change to something different again? If yes, we should
not support -j in potato, as suggested above, of course.
It's already changed several times before. I would
On Tue, 9 Jan 2001, Bdale Garbee wrote:
I'm satisfied with this solution, and will work with Paul to deliver an
implementation for Debian as soon as possible.
[snip]
I'm happy with this solution.
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Kevin Dalley wrote:
Source: xsane-gimp1.1
Binary: xsane-gimp1.1
Do we actually need gimp1.1 and associated packages anymore? gimp1.2 in
in unstable.
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see shy jo
Bruce Perens wrote:
For the Debian part of the meeting, I could say something about use of
Debian inside of HP, especially how it was used for the PA-RISC and ia64
ports.
Speaking of IA-64: Do we have a machine yet? AFAIK not. Do you think HP
would be willing to make one availible to Debian?
gzip --compress-like=old-foo foo
where foo will be compressed as old-foo was or as aquivalent as
possible. Gzip does not need to know anything about foo except how it
was compressed. The switch --compress-like could be added to any
compression algorithmus (bzip?) as long as
gzip --compress-like=old-foo foo
AFAIK thats NOT possible with gzip. Same with bzip2.
Why not.
I wish it where that simple.
I'm not saying it's simple, I'm saying it's possible. I'm not a
compression speciallist but from the theory there is nothing which
prevents this
From: Roland Bauerschmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Speaking of IA-64: Do we have a machine yet? AFAIK not. Do you think HP
would be willing to make one availible to Debian?
Please verify the situation regarding ia64 and get back to me.
Sorry about the list posting. I just hit r without looking.
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