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Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-22 Thread Aaron Lehmann
On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 01:38:42PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: This is exactly our disagreement. My position is that it is well within our capabilities to make this unnecessary. And you disagree with that which is fine with me. It was recently calculated that there are over 2000 kernel options

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-22 Thread Herbert Xu
On Sat, Apr 21, 2001 at 09:14:37PM -0700, Aaron Lehmann wrote: This is about choice. I want to compile my sound card's driver into the kernel. I want to compile bttv, however, as a module. I also want IDE as a module, but I want support for my particular scsi card (and only that scsi card)

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-22 Thread zhaoway
This is exactly our disagreement. My position is that it is well within our capabilities to make this unnecessary. And you disagree with that which is fine with me. [snip] I should build my own kernel, right? Sure, you're a computer geek. But remember we don't expect our users to be

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-22 Thread Aaron Lehmann
On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 12:22:33PM +0800, zhaoway wrote: I should build my own kernel, right? Sure, you're a computer geek. But remember we don't expect our users to be all computer elites. No, they're no dummies. Think about scientists, etc. who just simply don't have that much enough time

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-22 Thread David Starner
On Sat, Apr 21, 2001 at 09:28:02PM -0500, Rahul Jain wrote: Unless you care about performace. Which is the main reason to use different packages for each CPU type. I compile my own kernels, and have for a long time. But it's a pain to go through all the poorly-documented options and takes quite

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-22 Thread Rahul Jain
On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 12:09:12AM -0500, David Starner wrote: On Sat, Apr 21, 2001 at 09:28:02PM -0500, Rahul Jain wrote: Unless you care about performace. Which is the main reason to use different packages for each CPU type. I compile my own kernels, and have for a long time. But it's a

Re: Recovering dpkg database

2001-04-22 Thread Joseph Carter
On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 12:07:37AM +0200, Klaus Reimer wrote: My harddisk containing /var has crashed (and I am a fool without a backup). I was able to recover /var/lib/dpkg/status but all other files in /var/lib/dpkg except some files from /var/lib/dpkg/info are gone. Is there any way to

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-22 Thread zhaoway
I should build my own kernel, right? Sure, you're a computer geek. But remember we don't expect our users to be all computer elites. No, they're no dummies. Think about scientists, etc. who just simply don't have that much enough time sometimes to make oneself be familiar with

Re: Fix for: libdb3 and gnome

2001-04-22 Thread Christian Marillat
WWT == Wesley W Terpstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] WWT Anyways, here's the easy fix. In configure.in find: [...] WWT Anyways, you have a fix that works now. Please try it yourself and let me WWT know whether or not it works out. Oh, I had to tweak all the Build-Depends WWT too. This

Re: FYI: dh_upx compresses i386 executables

2001-04-22 Thread Richard Braakman
On Sat, Apr 21, 2001 at 07:42:00PM -0300, Carlos Laviola wrote: There is: just upx -d it. (you can even run md5sum before and after compression/decompression to find out for yourself that the decompressed file is the same as before.) Will upx -d work on a binary that was compressed with an

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-22 Thread David Starner
On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 12:37:16AM -0500, Rahul Jain wrote: use the distro kernels' config as a starting point. Which wins me how much, over just starting from the defaults? You still have to go over all the options, and wait for the kernel to compile. It's still a lot easier to break stuff

Re: chroot bind?

2001-04-22 Thread nic
Just two questions: i) Is there any reason why you decided to include the named binaries in the chroot? There is no need for them to be there, since named does the chroot internal. In fact this might represent a security hole. Consider some manages to break named and get access to the

Gnome keyboard shortcuts stopped working

2001-04-22 Thread Dr. Guenter Bechly
Hello, I am running Sid (daily updated) and currently have a problem with Gnome: Before I could access the programm menus with the keyboard shortcuts (Alt + undelined_character). This worked with all Gnome apps under any window manager. It still works with KDE apps, but since a few days the Gnome

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-22 Thread Michael Banck
On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 01:38:42PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: IMHO, with the current 2.4.* setup, the difference between compiling your own and using the preexisting one is so minimal that most people will be able to use the precompiled one rather than building their own. Fair enough. But what

Update release management

2001-04-22 Thread Michel Salim
Hello, I apologise if this is considered off-topic - might be barking up the wrong tree in the wrong forest here - but bringing up an old issue here of release frequency, once the transition to using package pools and the new debian-installer is done, would it be reasonable to expect Debian

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-22 Thread Herbert Xu
Michael Banck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fair enough. But what about the difference between machine-dependant optimisation? Perhaps the difference between i386 and PIII is so minimal Please read the earlier messages in this thread. This has already been covered. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 is out!

Re: chroot bind?

2001-04-22 Thread Ethan Benson
On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 08:50:45PM +1200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just two questions: i) Is there any reason why you decided to include the named binaries in the chroot? you have to have at least named-xfer. There is no need for them to be there, since named does the chroot

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-22 Thread Craig Sanders
On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 01:38:42PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: if the user needs a more specific kernel (e.g. with SMP or compiled for a P2 or a K6 or whatever) then they can use manoj's excellent kernel-package (one of debian's best features, IMO) to build a custom kernel. This is exactly

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-22 Thread Craig Sanders
On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 12:09:12AM -0500, David Starner wrote: On Sat, Apr 21, 2001 at 09:28:02PM -0500, Rahul Jain wrote: Unless you care about performace. Which is the main reason to use different packages for each CPU type. I compile my own kernels, and have for a long time. But it's a

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-22 Thread Herbert Xu
On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 09:44:01PM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: i disagree with you primarily because the cost of having so many kernel-image packages is too high. That is your opinion, and I disagree with it. that cost is over 100MB per kernel version, that's several hundred MB with

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-22 Thread Herbert Xu
Craig Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: in that case, a far better solution is a package containing a bunch of pre-generated kernel .config files, plus a menu script to copy your choice to the right subdirectory (e.g. /usr/local/src/linux or wherever)...then run make menuconfig or make xconfig

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-22 Thread Roland Mas
Herbert Xu (2001-04-22 14:15:50 +1000) : Yes you should. But then most people would be happy to have all of the above as modules. I used to put plenty of things in modules. I even put ext2 in a module, three or four times. Wham, kernel panic at boot. Okay, I thought I wouldn't do the same

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-22 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Roland Mas wrote: Call me stupid if you like, but I think all goes into modules won't work. It does if you use initrd. Wichert. -- / Generally uninteresting signature - ignore at your convenience \ | [EMAIL

Re: Cryptic messages from installers

2001-04-22 Thread Santiago Vila
On Sat, 21 Apr 2001, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: On 20010419T170915+0200, Santiago Vila wrote: On 18 Apr 2001, James Troup wrote: making broken assumptions based on random things like the signature on the file. A gpg signature is a random thing --Debian gnupg maintainer. Great

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-22 Thread Roland Mas
Herbert Xu (2001-04-22 22:23:04 +1000) : Craig Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that would be one package, taking maybe a few hundred kilobytes total. call it kernel-helper and make it depend on kernel-package. problem solved. But why not take this one step further, let's just

Re: FYI: dh_upx compresses i386 executables

2001-04-22 Thread Itai Zukerman
On Sun, 22 Apr 2001 00:57:54 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 22 April 2001 00:45, Itai Zukerman wrote: Why not compress the binaries in the postinst, maybe after asking the admin for permission? Well, if I had to answer no to compression for binary in every new package I

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-22 Thread David Spreen
On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 10:16:36PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: With the latest release, it's now down to about 80MB. In any case, we never release with more than one old kernel, nor with experimental kernels, so that would be 1 x 2.2.x, and at most 2 x 2.4.x. This sucks. Hopefully not only in my

Re: FYI: dh_upx compresses i386 executables

2001-04-22 Thread Ethan Benson
On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 09:00:13AM -0400, Itai Zukerman wrote: If not, I suggest a debhelper command to add the necessary code to the postinst. Packages that use this should, of course, depend on the binary-compressing package, which would provide the one-time question why should they

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-22 Thread Steve M. Robbins
On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 09:59:42PM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 12:09:12AM -0500, David Starner wrote: On Sat, Apr 21, 2001 at 09:28:02PM -0500, Rahul Jain wrote: Unless you care about performace. Which is the main reason to use different packages for each CPU type.

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-22 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 09:59:42PM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 12:09:12AM -0500, David Starner wrote: On Sat, Apr 21, 2001 at 09:28:02PM -0500, Rahul Jain wrote: Unless you care about performace. Which is the main reason to use different packages for each CPU type.

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-22 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 10:23:04PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: Craig Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: in that case, a far better solution is a package containing a bunch of pre-generated kernel .config files, plus a menu script to copy your choice to the right subdirectory (e.g.

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-22 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 02:47:36PM +0200, Roland Mas wrote: Herbert Xu (2001-04-22 22:23:04 +1000) : Craig Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that would be one package, taking maybe a few hundred kilobytes total. call it kernel-helper and make it depend on kernel-package. problem

Re: FYI: dh_upx compresses i386 executables

2001-04-22 Thread Itai Zukerman
On Sun, 22 Apr 2001 06:02:30 -0800, Ethan Benson wrote: On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 09:00:13AM -0400, Itai Zukerman wrote: If not, I suggest a debhelper command to add the necessary code to the postinst. Packages that use this should, of course, depend on the binary-compressing package, which

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-22 Thread Andreas Metzler
Herbert Xu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] P.S. Is a seperate kernel-headers package really necessary for every CPU type? What are the differences between the headers in, say kernel-headers-2.4.3-686 and kernel-headers-2.4.3-686-smp? Or kernel-headers-2.4.3-k6 and kernel-headers-2.4.3-k7? I

Re: Recovering dpkg database

2001-04-22 Thread Taral
On Sat, Apr 21, 2001 at 10:49:20PM -0700, Joseph Carter wrote: From then on (sorry, I know of no other way) you will simply have to get a list of installed packages (dpkg --get-selections, you can use cut or sed and grep or something to cut the list down to just the ones you want) and feed the

Re: FYI: dh_upx compresses i386 executables

2001-04-22 Thread Radovan Garabik
On Sat, Apr 21, 2001 at 11:50:44AM -0700, John H. Robinson, IV wrote: On Sat, Apr 21, 2001 at 11:41:56AM -0700, Alexander Hvostov wrote: On Sat, 21 Apr 2001 11:40:15 -0700 John H. Robinson, IV wrote: however, on something like boot-floppies, this might be a goddess-send. What

Re: chroot bind?

2001-04-22 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Apr 21, Yotam Rubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We could harden the default configuration with the following directives: version 'Not available'; This does not harden anything and just makes debugging harder. Don't dare putting something like this in the default configuration of a

Re: chroot bind?

2001-04-22 Thread Yotam Rubin
On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 06:23:43PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: On Apr 21, Yotam Rubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We could harden the default configuration with the following directives: version 'Not available'; This does not harden anything and just makes debugging harder. Don't dare

ITP: fam (but not a developer yet)

2001-04-22 Thread Michel Salim
fam, the File Alteration Monitor from SGI, will be used by both E 0.17 and the upcoming Nautilus 1.0.3 / 1.2, whatever they will finally call it. http://oss.sgi.com/projects/fam Guess I'll take a stab at this. Will post the URL when done - I don't intend to jumpstart anything, just avoiding

ITP: dopewars

2001-04-22 Thread Leon Breedt
Hi, DopeWars is a kickarse curses based game that supports multiplayer, its under the GPL and can be found at: http://bellatrix.pcl.ox.ac.uk/~ben/dopewars/ If no one objects, I'll package it. Cheers, Leon. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://neverborn.org

Location of chroot environments (was: chroot bind?)

2001-04-22 Thread Marc Haber
On Sat, 21 Apr 2001 10:39:02 -0400 (EDT), Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 21 Apr 2001, Bdale Garbee wrote: I have no great inspirations about where to park chroot's, either. I don't think it is well handled, if at all, by current policy. The buildd machines I've looked at mostly

Architecture question

2001-04-22 Thread Taral
I'm packaging acl2, which can take several hours to compile on a PPro 200. Would it be reasonable to exclude certain architectures as too slow? (acl2 is a theorem prover.) -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please use PGP/GPG encryption to send me mail. Any technology, no matter how primitive, is magic

Re: Architecture question

2001-04-22 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Taral wrote: I'm packaging acl2, which can take several hours to compile on a PPro 200. Would it be reasonable to exclude certain architectures as too slow? (acl2 is a theorem prover.) No. Wichert. -- /

Re: Architecture question

2001-04-22 Thread Philip Blundell
I'm packaging acl2, which can take several hours to compile on a PPro 200. Would it be reasonable to exclude certain architectures as too slow? (acl2 is a theorem prover.) No. The porters can make up their own minds about whether it's worth compiling for their architecture. We already have

Re: Architecture question

2001-04-22 Thread Ben Collins
On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 08:31:55PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Taral wrote: I'm packaging acl2, which can take several hours to compile on a PPro 200. Would it be reasonable to exclude certain architectures as too slow? (acl2 is a theorem prover.) No. Argeed. Lots of

Re: XFree 4.0.3 used by some debian developers and their sid packages depend on it (but not available)

2001-04-22 Thread Branden Robinson
ALL RIGHT, YOU JACKASSES, STOP COMPILING AGAINST UNRELEASED PACKAGES. Everyone else, please file serious bugs against any packages you find doing this. Cannot build from source is exactly what they are, and that's a release critical bug. 4.0.3-1 will be out when it's ready, which will hopefully

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-22 Thread Aaron Lehmann
On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 09:44:01PM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: just as you stated you'd be filing bug-reports to get 2.2.17 kernel image removed from the archive, i'll be filing package should not exist bugs against all the excess kernel-image bugs. Alternatively, you could bring it up with

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-22 Thread Aaron Lehmann
On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 02:47:36PM +0200, Roland Mas wrote: Nonono, we should automate it as much as possible. I envision a global Makefile somewhere, and a ports/ directory, and a make-world.sh, and... And then Debian GNU/BSD! Yay! I've been spending a lot of time starting to design a

Re: chroot bind?

2001-04-22 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Apr 22, Ethan Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i) Is there any reason why you decided to include the named binaries in the chroot? you have to have at least named-xfer. Not with BIND 9. Another reason to use BIND 9. -- ciao, Marco

Re: ITP: dopewars

2001-04-22 Thread David Nusinow
On 22 Apr 2001 20:22:10 +0200, Leon Breedt wrote: Hi, DopeWars is a kickarse curses based game that supports multiplayer, its under the GPL and can be found at: http://bellatrix.pcl.ox.ac.uk/~ben/dopewars/ If no one objects, I'll package it. Sweet! I'm kind of surprised no one

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-22 Thread Herbert Xu
David Spreen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 10:16:36PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: With the latest release, it's now down to about 80MB. In any case, we never release with more than one old kernel, nor with experimental kernels, so that would be 1 x 2.2.x, and at most 2 x

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-22 Thread Herbert Xu
Andreas Metzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are these *really* necessary? Who does need them, people who compile Yes. By all module builders, especially those outside Debian. external kernel-modules (alsa, lm-sensors, ...)? Can't these people simply install kernel-source, extract it to /tmp

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-22 Thread Herbert Xu
Steve M. Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Independent of whether or not Xu uploads a dozen pre-compiled kernels, it would be nice to have their configs readily available. I would appreciate an easy way of seeing what tweaks are recommended to optimize for an i686 machine. They already are:

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-22 Thread David Spreen
Hi there, On Mon, Apr 23, 2001 at 07:38:18AM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: I think you've missed the point. We're not talking about what is going to be the standard kernel image for woody. We're discussing the way the kernel images are constructed on i386, which happens to only apply to 2.4 at

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-22 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 09:59:42PM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: btw, if you've been compiling your own kernels for a long time then you probably do somthing similar to what i do - copy in the .config from the previous version and run make oldconfig before make menuconfig and make-kpkg. i've

Bug#94911: O: drscheme -- lost interests and don't use it anymore

2001-04-22 Thread zhaoway
Package: wnpp Severity: normal drscheme has quite some porting related bugs. and the upstream is moving fast to v200. i hereby orphan this package for i didn't use it for a long time. and i have to get more time work on other tasks which i have more interests. (for now at least. ;) thanks, --

Bug#94912: ITP: garlic -- free molecular visualization program

2001-04-22 Thread zhaoway
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Garlic, a free molecular visualization program written for unix and unix clones. Garlic was written by Damir Zucic, at the University of Osijek. The latest version of garlic may be found at: http://pref.etfos.hr/garlic -- http://dim.sourceforge.net

Re: Architecture question

2001-04-22 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 01:24:43PM -0500, Taral wrote: I'm packaging acl2, which can take several hours to compile on a PPro 200. Would it be reasonable to exclude certain architectures as too slow? (acl2 is a theorem prover.) eg your PPro 200? :-) Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB [EMAIL

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-22 Thread Ethan Benson
On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 01:00:02PM +, Andreas Metzler wrote: What *is* the difference between eg. kernel-headers-2.4.3-686 and kernel-headers-2.4.3-k6? not much: [EMAIL PROTECTED] eb]$ diff -rq /usr/local/src/linux-2.2.19/include /usr/src/kernel-headers-2.2.19/include Only in

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-22 Thread Craig Sanders
On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 10:16:36PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: We clearly disagree, so let's leave it at that. no. just as you stated you'd be filing bug-reports to get 2.2.17 kernel image removed from the archive, i'll be filing package should not exist bugs against all the excess

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-22 Thread Craig Sanders
On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 10:23:04PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: in that case, a far better solution is a package containing a bunch of pre-generated kernel .config files, plus a menu script to copy [...] that would be one package, taking maybe a few hundred kilobytes total. call it

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-22 Thread Craig Sanders
On Mon, Apr 23, 2001 at 08:00:50AM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: I do that too; what's the oldconfig step needed for though? I just jump straight to menuconfig and it always seems OK. i find it easier to deal with new config questions. it uses your old answers as input for any questions, and

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