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Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian/SPARC Build Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Peter Makholm
On Mon, Apr 23, 2001 at 07:32:44AM -0400, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote:
Well, yeah. The problem is we can't change files from other
packages-especially if they are confffiles.
However, is it all right to create script installed with the package which
does the deed. Rather than forcing the admin
I was wondering how possible it would be to considering adding to the policy
that a single runlevel's symlinks be left out of updating from packages.
After running an update of 200+ packages or so, all the rc?.d directories are
re-polluted with symlinks i've destroyed. This is a big problem on
On Mon, Apr 23, 2001 at 11:56:45PM -0700, Erik Hollensbe wrote:
I was wondering how possible it would be to considering adding to the policy
that a single runlevel's symlinks be left out of updating from packages.
After running an update of 200+ packages or so, all the rc?.d directories are
On Mon, Apr 23, 2001 at 11:09:18PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote:
if you leave at least one symlink in at least one runlevel, even if
its a K link in runlevel 0 or 6 update-rc.d will refuse to add any new
links. policy requires the use of update-rc.d so packages can't add
any links so long as
On Mon, Apr 23, 2001 at 09:37:55PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
Andreas Metzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
mean by module builders [...] especially those outside Debian. The
people from alsa who do not use Debian (How would they use a
debian-package?) or debian-users who no debian-developers (=
On Mon, Apr 23, 2001 at 06:59:55AM +0800, zhaoway wrote:
this actually *helps* new users.
Why?
Because it teaches them to perform a task they should have to perform, at
the right time. At some point, you *have* to stop tying your children's
shoelaces, and teach them to do it for themselves.
if you leave at least one symlink in at least one runlevel, even if
its a K link in runlevel 0 or 6 update-rc.d will refuse to add any new
links. policy requires the use of update-rc.d so packages can't add
any links so long as you leave at least one. if you find a package
that does
Federico Di Gregorio [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
but the only problematic gnome library, afaik, is libglade and i just
recompiled it against libxml2 without changes. the fact that gnome 1.x
The fact that you can rebuild packages against libxml2 with no
or only trivial changes (e.g. replace
On Mon, Apr 23, 2001 at 04:52:08PM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
So perhaps we need to come up with some more structure for the bug parties.
Perhaps the right thing to do is have those involved create diffs of their
work
and place these in a repository for some group of devels
this actually *helps* new users.
Why?
Because it teaches them to perform a task they should have to
perform, at the right time. At some point, you *have* to stop tying
your children's shoelaces, and teach them to do it for themselves.
You obviously didn't read my previous post in
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 02:11:32AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
How ironic ... http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-0104/msg00089.html
There does seem to be some hypocracy there...
How old does a bug have to be before it's fair game? The oldest bug
report for netmaze was 2 months old, although
Daniel Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, Apr 23, 2001 at 09:37:55PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
I'm talking about people like VMWare, i.e., people who distribute binary
only modules.
Call *me* a cretin, but wouldn't that be non-free?
Binary-only modules should be slain. Plus, they've
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 08:47:44AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
what is the DIFFERENCE between kernel-headers-2.4.2 and all the other
2.4.2 kernel headers packages?
Kernel-headers-2.4.2 is built with the default config file, and the
other ones are built with their respective config files.
Hi
Richard Braakman schrieb:
In that case the right repository could be a bugreport to the package
involved. That way the diff submission is guaranteed.
I agree with you that _something_ has to be done about
catastrophal NMUs, but just stopping to NMU and only submitting
diffs, even on
Jim Penny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
These are:
1) how do I boot from a non-IDE root disk?
You don't need to do anything special unless mkinitrd doesn't recognise
your root device.
2) How do I control what goes into initrd in a more reasonable
way than nothing/most/all. (and what does most
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 07:27:42PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
Daniel Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, Apr 23, 2001 at 09:37:55PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
I'm talking about people like VMWare, i.e., people who distribute binary
only modules.
Call *me* a cretin, but wouldn't that
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 07:47:48PM +1000, Daniel Stone wrote:
They still suck, and they're still non-free.
Who said that we were going to distribute them?
--
Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ )
Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmVHI~} [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 07:30:47PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 08:47:44AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
what is the DIFFERENCE between kernel-headers-2.4.2 and all the other
2.4.2 kernel headers packages?
Kernel-headers-2.4.2 is built with the default config file, and
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 07:49:45PM +1000, Daniel Stone wrote:
If you're including the entire headers in every package, this is an awful
fallacy. Why not just do something like this:
kernel-headers-2.4.3-common: all the 2.4.3 headers
kernel-headers-2.4.3-piii: autoconf.h and modules/ for p3
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 04:41:36PM +0800, zhaoway wrote:
Because it teaches them to perform a task they should have to
perform, at the right time. At some point, you *have* to stop tying
your children's shoelaces, and teach them to do it for themselves.
You obviously didn't read my
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 08:00:01PM +1000, Daniel Stone wrote:
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 07:49:48PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
Who said that we were going to distribute them?
If we don't distribute them, why in hell are we breaking mirrors by
supporting them? Sounds dodgy to me.
So that they
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 07:50:34PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 07:49:45PM +1000, Daniel Stone wrote:
If you're including the entire headers in every package, this is an awful
fallacy. Why not just do something like this:
kernel-headers-2.4.3-common: all the 2.4.3
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 07:49:48PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 07:47:48PM +1000, Daniel Stone wrote:
They still suck, and they're still non-free.
Who said that we were going to distribute them?
If we don't distribute them, why in hell are we breaking mirrors by
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 08:01:39PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 08:00:01PM +1000, Daniel Stone wrote:
If we don't distribute them, why in hell are we breaking mirrors by
supporting them? Sounds dodgy to me.
So that they can compile them? If you don't understand why we
Daniel Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The thing is, by including all these headers, you're helping break stuff for
everyone. But you're also helping a small percentage of people who don't
FUD. Show me what's actually broken.
ftp.au.d.o is currently missing several packages, as is
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 08:18:42PM +1000, Daniel Stone wrote:
I can understand why you might say that that's a valid point, but IMHO, we
shouldn't fuck up current users (by overloading mirrors), just so we can
support LAZY users to compile something THAT IS NOT EVEN IN DEBIAN.
Do you
Yotam Rubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
We could harden the default configuration with the following directives:
options {
version 'Not available';
That's not harden, that's obscurity and should be avoided in a free
distribution like Debian.
Admins can put this line themself if they
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 08:21:28PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 08:18:42PM +1000, Daniel Stone wrote:
I can understand why you might say that that's a valid point, but IMHO, we
shouldn't fuck up current users (by overloading mirrors), just so we can
support LAZY users
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 08:20:43PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
Daniel Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The thing is, by including all these headers, you're helping break stuff for
everyone. But you're also helping a small percentage of people who don't
FUD. Show me what's actually broken.
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 11:32:42AM +0200, Arthur Korn wrote:
Richard Braakman schrieb:
In that case the right repository could be a bugreport to the package
involved. That way the diff submission is guaranteed.
I agree with you that _something_ has to be done about
catastrophal NMUs, but
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 11:07:20AM +0300 , Richard Braakman wrote:
In that case the right repository could be a bugreport to the package
involved. That way the diff submission is guaranteed. If the diff turns
though this doesn't catch broken build environment :(( like XF4.0.3 or
obsolete
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 08:45:11PM +1000, Daniel Stone wrote:
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 08:20:43PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
FUD. Show me what's actually broken.
Mirrors. Slow. Out-of-sync.
It's still FUD until you produce the evidence that it's caused by the kernel
images.
Prove that
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