I want to compile an arm-elf GNU development toolchain (binutils, gcc,
newlib). I'd like the end result to be an arm-elf-gcc_3.0.4-1_i386.deb
package that I can install and manage through dpkg. My usual method is
download the the binutils, gcc, and newlib sources, and ./configure
On Tue, Apr 16, 2002, Stefan Schwandter wrote:
I know that debian prefers free software, but the interests of our users
have even more priority, so I think it would be right to add such a
note.
Any objections?
Yes. Debian does prefer free software, so let's use free software
and
I found the toolchain-source package. An amazing package! tpkg-make works
fabulously. It raised a couple questions for me though.
Can binutils-multiarch be used instead of building a specific
binutils-arm-elf?
Whenever I build arm-elf-gcc I have to apply a small patch to
On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 07:37:11PM -0700, David D.W. Downey wrote:
On Tuesday 16 April 2002 00:29, Andreas Metzler wrote:
Marc Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Probably Geforce4 (usable with the nonfree Nvidia-driver on 4.1.*) or
some Laptop-Chipset (Savage-something?)
Well, so much for
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Seems that 4.1.0-16 fixed at last the old problem with garbage-on-screen in
kicker and in nedit scrollbars on r128 card.
Great work !
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On Wed, 17 Apr 2002, Junichi Uekawa wrote:
I intent to package libsocket++, a small C++ library that abstracts
network sockets. It provides buffered reads/writes and address family
independent handling of sockets.
Could you tell me why you are using
-release @RELEASE@ instead of -version
On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 05:14:51AM +0300, Lasse Karkkainen wrote:
You are probably sick and tired of this topic, but ...
IT'S A QUARTER YEAR ANNIVERSARY OF 4.2.0 RELEASE!
Yes, it really has been three (3) months (!) since it was released.
[...]
In that case I suggest hiring a paid programmer
On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 08:41:41AM +1200, Corrin Lakeland wrote:
Incidentially, Lasse's email did convince me that Branden's job isn't just
hard, it is _really_ hard. The idea of having to deal with daily emails like
this horrifies me. I can see where his abrasive style comes from ;-)
On Wed, 17 Apr 2002, Junichi Uekawa wrote:
Whoa. I tried the same two years ago, and failed. That's why I started a
rewrite in C++, based on APT, which should be ready for general use in
about three to six months [...].
Anyway, pbuilder is one such project, that seems to be
working
On Tue, 16 Apr 2002, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
[Own socket library vs. CommonC++]
We're trying to get away from CommonC++... :-)
What sort of problems did you have with it?
Well, it adds too many dependencies, doesn't compile too well on
architectures other than GNU/Linux (it failed on Solaris
On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 07:21:07AM +0200, Tomas Pospisek's Mailing Lists wrote:
On Tue, 16 Apr 2002, Sebastien J. Gross wrote:
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The gpm v1.19.6-12 binary was built for powerpc on voltaire
2002-03-23, but it is still missing from the archive. Anyone know why
this binary is missing?
Check
URL:http://developer.skolelinux.no/info/cdbygging/distdiff.html.gz
and URL:http://auric.debian.org/~pb/shame/powerpc.html for the
On Wed, 17 Apr 2002 10:30, Marc Wilson wrote:
On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 07:37:11PM -0700, David D.W. Downey wrote:
On Tuesday 16 April 2002 00:29, Andreas Metzler wrote:
Marc Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Probably Geforce4 (usable with the nonfree Nvidia-driver on 4.1.*) or
some
On Wed, 17 Apr 2002 04:46, David D.W. Downey wrote:
On Monday 15 April 2002 19:14, Lasse Karkkainen wrote:
SNIP
stupid shit here
/snip
Dude, kiss our collective arses. Do yourself a favor. hit
http://linuxnewbie.codecastle.com and read every fiucking thing on that
site, then hit
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On Wednesday 17 April 2002 03:59, Russell Coker wrote:
You didn't use nearly enough obscenity to describe Lasse's behaviour!
I didn't want to hurt his little head with all the big words.
Also the structure of your message was lacking, you used
Samuel Hocevar wrote:
Yes. Debian does prefer free software, so let's use free software
and distribute free software. Are you and/or the snd author aware of
the existence of LessTif? snd is even on their compatibility list:
http://chronos.cs.msu.su/LessTif/apps.html
If I'm not
On Wed, 2002-04-17 at 06:47, Russell Coker wrote:
I don't know which sub-version of the GeForce cards I'm using, I just got
whatever was cheapest at the time (you'd have to be crazy to buy a high-end
NVidia card - they release new models every 6 months and the old models then
sell for less
Might I point out that Lasse has not replied to any emails since
yesterday?
I think maybe he's gotten the point, you can stop beating on him now ;-)
*crossing my fingers and hoping this thread dies*,
Daniel
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Seems that 4.1.0-16 fixed at last the old problem with garbage-on-screen
in kicker and in nedit scrollbars on r128 card.
Oh no, the bug is still there :-(. But not as often as before :-).
Anyway, it is not really harmful.
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On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 08:42:05AM -0400, Daniel Burrows wrote:
Might I point out that Lasse has not replied to any emails since
yesterday?
I think maybe he's gotten the point, you can stop beating on him now ;-)
Or he was trolling and he's laughing too hard to type. Feeding the
trolls
Hi,
[There was a MIME issue with the last announcement. Here is a retry]
The winner of the election is Bdale Garbee. I would like to
thank Branden Robinson and Raphael Hertzog for their service to the
project, for standing for the post of project leader, and for
offering the
On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 07:47:55AM +0200, Stefan Schwandter wrote:
Simply because gtk+ support is newer and still not finished.
Then the solution is to improve it.
From the README:
Gtk+ is not as sophisticated as Motif, and the port is still somewhat
new, so there are a number of
Stefan,
On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 01:35:47PM +0200, Stefan Schwandter wrote:
Samuel Hocevar wrote:
Yes. Debian does prefer free software, so let's use free software
and distribute free software. Are you and/or the snd author aware of
the existence of LessTif? snd is even on their
Steve Langasek wrote:
Of course, I should have mentioned this. LessTif doesn't work for snd,
so this compatibility list seems to be wrong or (more probably)
outdated.
Upstream doesn't support lesstif anymore.
This has been mentioned before; however, the goal of the Lesstif project
is
On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 09:27:56AM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote:
This has been mentioned before; however, the goal of the Lesstif project
is to provide complete compatibility -- ABI and API -- with the Motif
libraries.
They're still a long way away from being Motif 2.1 compatibile.
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On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 12:16:41PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
The gpm v1.19.6-12 binary was built for powerpc on voltaire
2002-03-23, but it is still missing from the archive. Anyone know why
this binary is missing?
No idea, but I've requeued it.
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Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
Simply because gtk+ support is newer and still not finished.
Then the solution is to improve it.
I am still hoping that gtk support will improve, but at the moment, it
doesn't seem that upstream wants to spend much time on it. Maybe he will
some time in the future,
Simon Richter [EMAIL PROTECTED] cum veritate scripsit:
Anyway, pbuilder is one such project, that seems to be
working almost. It rebuilds almost all of Debian archive now.
Few more quirks to go.
Well, my project goes much further, it is basically a generic
autobuilder with a plugin for
Simon Richter [EMAIL PROTECTED] cum veritate scripsit:
Could you tell me why you are using
-release @RELEASE@ instead of -version 0:0:0 ?
The regular libtool versioning scheme is only good for C libraries, i.e.
where you can exactly tell when an interface has been added, changed or
* Lasse Karkkainen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [020415 22:04]:
Someone said that X is a difficult package to maintain and that there is
nothing wrong if PACKAGING it takes 3+ months. People have managed to
install it from sources in matter of HOURS (well, that didn't work for
me, dunno why). Based
On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 07:35:07PM +1000, Brian May wrote:
Oh, sorry, did I say 2 parts? obviously, I still have some learning to
do myself...
Now, I mean no offense by this at all, but shouldn't you leave the
packaging duties of this security-critical package to somebody with more
in-depth
Stefan Schwandter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Upstream doesn't support lesstif anymore.
It sounds like upstream basically doesn't want a free software
package.
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On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 09:49:13AM -0700, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
Upstream doesn't support lesstif anymore.
It sounds like upstream basically doesn't want a free software
package.
Maybe they simply don't care? In any event, we are here to care, about both
free software and the users. So
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Joseph Carter wrote:
I recall seeing someplace a document which describes how to add XFree86
4.1's server to Debian's older 4.0.x X packages. A quick google doesn't
turn it up, but perhaps if someone has a link to the document it could be
generalized and included someplace that users can find
Quoting Joey Hess ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
Xdm doesn't work, but that's the only breakage I've run into.
I'm taking a pretty wild guess that you need X because of a bright shiny new
card that's only supported by 4.2 ? I ran into the same problem with a new
radeon card, and solved it the same, with
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On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 09:16:11AM +0200, Samuel Hocevar wrote:
On Tue, Apr 16, 2002, Stefan Schwandter wrote:
Yes. Debian does prefer free software, so let's use free software
and distribute free software. Are you and/or the snd author aware of
the existence of LessTif? snd is even on
On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 05:07:03PM +0200, Stefan Schwandter wrote:
Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
Simply because gtk+ support is newer and still not finished.
Then the solution is to improve it.
I am still hoping that gtk support will improve, but at the moment, it
doesn't seem that upstream
On Thu, 18 Apr 2002, Junichi Uekawa wrote:
Well, my project goes much further, it is basically a generic
autobuilder with a plugin for .dsc/.deb (just like APT is a generic
package library with plugins for Debian).
The most lacking part is the problem of source not building.
buildd needs
Simon Richter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
My idea is to have a web page with current problems. A problem could be
a package not building, an uninstallable package, etc. The layout will be
much like the BTS, just that the only method to get rid of a problem is
to solve it (i.e. there is no close
On Thu, 18 Apr 2002, Junichi Uekawa wrote:
Could you tell me why you are using
-release @RELEASE@ instead of -version 0:0:0 ?
The regular libtool versioning scheme is only good for C libraries, i.e.
where you can exactly tell when an interface has been added, changed or
removed. For
On Wed, Apr 17, 2002, Stefan Schwandter wrote:
When was the last time you tried to compile snd with Lesstif?
Today. It didn't work. Maybe it will work one day, but now it doesn't.
Well, the interface has a few glitches, but it remains extremely
usable. At least it compiled flawlessly
IMO each package should at least once per release upload a status
report. Also there was ample time for the transition of each package to
the pool. These are the reason behind the mailing to each maintainer of
packages still in Potato.
While most of the answers I got were positive, there were
On 17 Apr 2002, Roger Leigh wrote:
In addition to this, have you considered adding support for periodic
rebuilding of existing packages e.g. when buildd is idle?
Sort of. One could request it through the admin interface. The autobuilder
will only recompile something if it sees a need for it
On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 11:26:30AM -0500, The Doctor What wrote:
I would like to ask you to offer an apology to Brandon, saying that
you didn't know that it was a difficult task and maybe say thank you
for the work he has done already. But that's your choice.
Well, as long as we're in the
On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 04:44:31PM +0400, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote:
Seems that 4.1.0-16 fixed at last the old problem with garbage-on-screen
in kicker and in nedit scrollbars on r128 card.
Oh no, the bug is still there :-(. But not as often as before :-).
Anyway, it is not really
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Otto Wyss) writes:
IMO each package should at least once per release upload a status
report. Also there was ample time for the transition of each package to
Disagreed. We should make package uploads just to make uploads.
If a package works, has no new upstream versions and
* Branden Robinson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [020417 14:28]:
On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 11:26:30AM -0500, The Doctor What wrote:
I would like to ask you to offer an apology to Brandon, saying that
you didn't know that it was a difficult task and maybe say thank you
for the work he has done already.
Samuel Hocevar wrote:
Well, the interface has a few glitches, but it remains extremely
usable. At least it compiled flawlessly against lesstif on my Sid box
(both snd 5.8 and 5.9).
Did you also compile the xm module (configure --with-static-xm)? I get
errors when trying to do that, and the
On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 09:39:12PM +0200, Peter Makholm wrote:
If a package works, has no new upstream versions and doesn't get
outdated policywise there is no need for a new version of the package
just because we're making a new release.
And what makes you think there has been no new upstream
That's the result of reading your (=Debian developers') rude replies
to very polite questions asked by other people.
If you claim that your first post was polite I am truly amazed. It was
a very rude and very clueless attack against Branden. You owe him an
apology.
My message was not meant
On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 04:50:51PM +0200, Stefan Schwandter wrote:
...
And it doesn't make sense if I compile the program with lesstif, as long
as upstream doesn't want to support it, because if people file bug
reports against snd in debian, and I forward it to him, he'll most
probably not
On Wed, 2002-04-17 at 10:44, Simon Richter wrote:
Well, my project goes much further, it is basically a generic
autobuilder with a plugin for .dsc/.deb (just like APT is a generic
package library with plugins for Debian).
What became of turtle -- do the Hurd people still use that?
p.
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* Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020417 14:29]:
this Brandon person is that you're talking about, and what the heck
Don't worry, I also had a lapse of judgement eariler in the thread.
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And what makes you think there has been no new upstream versions for all
those packages?
Nothing. I commented on you general opinion.
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On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 01:46:54PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
Dunno, but I only had to do:
1. Download Xxserv.tgz and Xmod.tgz
from ftp://ftp.xfree86.org/pub/XFree86/4.2.0/binaries
2. Untar over top of xserver-xfree86's files and fix X symlink.
3. Put xserver-xfree86 on hold.
It took
On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 10:12:10PM +0100, Philip Blundell wrote:
On Wed, 2002-04-17 at 10:44, Simon Richter wrote:
Well, my project goes much further, it is basically a generic
autobuilder with a plugin for .dsc/.deb (just like APT is a generic
package library with plugins for Debian).
Josip Rodin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 09:49:13AM -0700, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
Upstream doesn't support lesstif anymore.
It sounds like upstream basically doesn't want a free software
package.
Maybe they simply don't care? In any event, we are here to
On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 04:20:00PM -0500, Scott Dier wrote:
* Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020417 14:29]:
this Brandon person is that you're talking about, and what the heck
Don't worry, I also had a lapse of judgement eariler in the thread.
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On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 12:40:07PM -0400, Noah Meyerhans wrote:
Now, I mean no offense by this at all, but shouldn't you leave the
packaging duties of this security-critical package to somebody with more
Openca is much much much simpler then Heimdal which I also package and
is also a security
On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 03:16:52PM -0700, David D. W. Downey wrote:
On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 04:20:00PM -0500, Scott Dier wrote:
* Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020417 14:29]:
this Brandon person is that you're talking about, and what the heck
Don't worry, I also had a lapse of
David Starner ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 09:39:12PM +0200, Peter Makholm wrote:
If a package works, has no new upstream versions and doesn't get
outdated policywise there is no need for a new version of the package
just because we're making a new release.
And what
On Wed, 17 Apr 2002 22:58, Lasse Karkkainen wrote:
That's the result of reading your (=Debian developers') rude replies
to very polite questions asked by other people.
If you claim that your first post was polite I am truly amazed. It was
a very rude and very clueless attack against
Simon Richter [EMAIL PROTECTED] cum veritate scripsit:
On 17 Apr 2002, Roger Leigh wrote:
In addition to this, have you considered adding support for periodic
rebuilding of existing packages e.g. when buildd is idle?
Sort of. One could request it through the admin interface. The
Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
*Evil* twin? You mean one of us isn't?
He's bck.
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| Please make amends for your error by flaming Lasse again and doing it
| properly. ;)
Please excuse David -- he's still in the NM queue and haven't learnt
all the flame-throwing tipstricks yet. :)
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Peter S Galbraith:
One of my packages disappeared from testing recently (not sure why)
Well, it was listed in the removal list that was posted on March 3rd:
On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 04:27:17PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
*Evil* twin? You mean one of us isn't?
He's bck.
I didn't go anywhere. Nowhere in my platform did I claim I wasn't evil.
;-)
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Please don't upgrade spamasassin/razor today, as it, ehm, doesn't work. I
made a boo-boo in yesterday's upload, which basically f*cks it up. A new
upload will follow later today, adressing these issues. I'm posting this
here as the tendency is growing to blindly file bugs, without looking at
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No apologies needed, we all know it's his evil twin.
*evil* twin? Now I'm scared.
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Quoting Robert van der Meulen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
Please don't upgrade spamasassin/razor today, as it, ehm, doesn't work.
snip
Damn. Ok. I don't know how to use a mailer. Sorry for the reply in the
thread, I intended to post a *new* message. I'll get some sleep now.
Greets,
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On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 07:25:31PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
*Evil* twin? You mean one of us isn't?
He's bck.
I didn't go anywhere. Nowhere in my platform did I claim I wasn't evil.
;-)
Overfiend this is the New Overfiend, preacher of Love and Tolerance
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begin Robert van der Meulen quotation:
Please don't upgrade spamasassin/razor today, as it, ehm, doesn't work. I
made a boo-boo in yesterday's upload, which basically f*cks it up. A new
upload will follow later today, adressing these issues.
There was no new spamassassin or razor in Sid
On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 06:20:24PM -0700, Joseph Carter wrote:
On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 07:25:31PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
*Evil* twin? You mean one of us isn't?
He's bck.
I didn't go anywhere. Nowhere in my platform did I claim I wasn't evil.
;-)
Overfiend this is
On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 06:20:24PM -0700, Joseph Carter wrote:
Overfiend this is the New Overfiend, preacher of Love and Tolerance
I see your irony detector is as non-functional as ever... :)
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This one time, at band camp, Joseph Carter wrote:
On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 07:25:31PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
I didn't go anywhere. Nowhere in my platform did I claim I wasn't evil.
;-)
Overfiend this is the New Overfiend, preacher of Love and Tolerance
Orwellian Love and Tolerance,
On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 12:01:54PM +0200, Simon Richter wrote:
On Tue, 16 Apr 2002, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
What sort of problems did you have with [Common C++]?
Well, it adds too many dependencies, doesn't compile too well on
architectures other than GNU/Linux (it failed on Solaris 2.8),
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