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Re: The harden-*flaws packages.

2002-09-03 Thread Ola Lundqvist
On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 06:28:44PM +0200, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 05:13:51PM +0200, Ola Lundqvist wrote: Now we just have to solve the upload-to-security problem, or simply write some other check that scans the security.d.o web pages and make clever

Re: Packages.bz2, Sources.bz2, Contents-*.bz2, oh my

2002-09-03 Thread Chris Halls
On Sat, Aug 31, 2002 at 01:38:52PM +0200, Peter Palfrader wrote: Still, the Packages files should only be removed after no software in our stable distribution depends on it. If you remove the Packages file from unstable now you will break apt-proxy (and perhaps other tools too). Well,

Kernel problem

2002-09-03 Thread Michael Meskes
Hi, I've been using self compiled kernels throughout the years and up to 2.4.18 never experienced a problem. But Now I tried switching to the debian kernel and cannot do that at all. When using 2.4.18 the first try ends before Uncompressing ... is written on the screen. A reset then makes it boot

lilo-22.3.2-3 trashed my SCSI disk

2002-09-03 Thread Svante Signell
Hello, After upgrade of lilo in unstable my whole SCSI disk got trashed. It could only be recovered with the use of the IBM drive fitness test tool, and a complete erase disk was necessary :-( What happened? A reinstall of Woody showed that it can only boot from the MBR partition, not the root

Re: bugs.debian.org: ChangeLog closes handling should be changed

2002-09-03 Thread Gerfried Fuchs
* Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-08-29 09:50]: On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 08:48:31AM +0200, Gerfried Fuchs wrote: What we need is a change here: Bugs should just be closed in unstable. How to do this? They should be rather be tagged sarge than be closed by an upload to unstable. Not

Re: Where are tasks now and how are they handled? (Woody sucks because there is no Task: Spanish)

2002-09-03 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Tue, Sep 03, 2002 at 10:43:25AM +1200, Philip Charles wrote: | | Excerpt from the changelog: | * we no longer have task packages, instead, we define tasks using a | special field in the control file (and these should be added only | after discussion on the mailing lists)

Re: Bug#159392: ITP: tetrinetx -- GNU Tetrinet server

2002-09-03 Thread Helios de Creisquer
On Tue, Sep 03, 2002 at 02:49:04AM +0200, Helios de Creisquer wrote: Package: wnpp [...] * Package name: tetrinetx [...] I CC-ed [EMAIL PROTECTED], closing the RFP, I though it was the right thing to do, but apparently I was misleading... Thx to Daniel Burrows for reporting it, and sorry

Re: install-info and LSB

2002-09-03 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 11:57:03PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: The dpkg-iasearch package used to contain a program called dpkg-query. When the dpkg maintainers added a program with the same name, the dpkg-iasearch maintainer renamed his file, without worrying about 'seniority'. I think he

Re: RFC: A regression test framework for Debian packages?

2002-09-03 Thread David Schmitt
On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 10:07:59AM -0700, Ian Zimmerman wrote: kronstadt:~# dpkg --status debian-test Package: debian-test Wasn't this at least a start? Shouldn't we build on it instead of starting from scratch? Using this framework could ease many of the problems testing

Is it me, pbuilder, dpkg or something else?

2002-09-03 Thread shaulka
script started on Tue Sep 3 12:00:00 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp# pbuilder build --distribution woody --basetgz \ /var/cache/pbuilder/woody/base.tgz \ ~shaul/devel/debian/libv/libv1.25/libv1.25_1.25-3.dsc W: /root/.pbuilderrc does not exist pbuilder-buildpackage/i386 $Id:

Stacked Debconf

2002-09-03 Thread Henning Glawe
Moin, the manpage of debconf.conf says it uses the topmost writable database in a stack for saving users choices. But debconf complains if the topmost database in a stack isn't writable. -- c u henning

Re: Kernel problem

2002-09-03 Thread Herbert Xu
Michael Meskes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: makes it boot but later I get a lost interrupt on hda. Now I installed 2.4.19 and do get that message about bios checksum or so. But after that it stands still again. Which 2.4.19 kernel package did you install and what is the exact error message? --

Re: NMU for bayonne

2002-09-03 Thread Mark Purcell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bas, It is actually courtesy to file a bug/ contact the maintainer prior to uploading a NMU (even to DELAYED/3-day). Have a look at Bug #159174 which I received two hours after your NMU notification. Mark On Mon, 2 Sep 2002 01:36, you wrote: Hi!

Re: Improper NMU (Re: NMU for libquota-perl)

2002-09-03 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 12:43:04PM -0400, Elie Rosenblum wrote: The strict minimum is : - create a patch for the NMU - make the patch available to the maintainer (via direct mail or bts) DELAYED is fine. Not submitting a bug is not fine. I think he would have been within the guidelines

Re: Improper NMU (Re: NMU for libquota-perl)

2002-09-03 Thread Michael Banck
On Tue, Sep 03, 2002 at 12:52:52PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: I agree, filing bugs and direct mails are much better than -devel-announce posts, much less likely for one to skip by accident IMHO. That depends on your mail-setup. IMHO it's reasonable to expect from DDs to follow -devel-announce

Re: Improper NMU (Re: NMU for libquota-perl)

2002-09-03 Thread Josip Rodin
On Tue, Sep 03, 2002 at 12:57:10PM +0200, Michael Banck wrote: I agree, filing bugs and direct mails are much better than -devel-announce posts, much less likely for one to skip by accident IMHO. That depends on your mail-setup. IMHO it's reasonable to expect from DDs to follow

Re: Where are tasks now and how are they handled? (Woody sucks because there is no Task: Spanish)

2002-09-03 Thread Philip Charles
On Tue, 3 Sep 2002, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: On Tue, Sep 03, 2002 at 10:43:25AM +1200, Philip Charles wrote: | | Excerpt from the changelog: | * we no longer have task packages, instead, we define tasks using a | special field in the control file (and these should

Re: Improper NMU (Re: NMU for libquota-perl)

2002-09-03 Thread Mark Brown
On Tue, Sep 03, 2002 at 12:57:10PM +0200, Michael Banck wrote: That depends on your mail-setup. IMHO it's reasonable to expect from DDs to follow -devel-announce without accidently overlooking a post there or two. Seeing the mail is one thing. Fully understanding it and grasping that it

Re: Kernel problem

2002-09-03 Thread Michael Meskes
On Tue, Sep 03, 2002 at 08:11:41PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: Which 2.4.19 kernel package did you install and what is the exact error message? 2.4.19-k7. As for the BIOS message, I will look it up when I get to the machine the next time. It may take a day or two though. Anyway, that message did

Re: Improper NMU (Re: NMU for libquota-perl)

2002-09-03 Thread Peter Mathiasson
On Tue, Sep 03, 2002 at 12:15:10PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote: That depends on your mail-setup. IMHO it's reasonable to expect from DDs to follow -devel-announce without accidently overlooking a post there or two. Seeing the mail is one thing. Fully understanding it and grasping that it

ZINF [was: Re: ardour]

2002-09-03 Thread Andreas Rottmann
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sat, 31 Aug 2002, Robert Jordens wrote: Users complained they were not able to compile ardour because of these libraries and C++'s ABI instability. So Paul Davis (upstream) decided to include all C++ libraries except libstdc++ (I

Re: Improper NMU (Re: NMU for libquota-perl)

2002-09-03 Thread Michael Banck
On Tue, Sep 03, 2002 at 12:15:10PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote: That depends on your mail-setup. IMHO it's reasonable to expect from DDs to follow -devel-announce without accidently overlooking a post there or two. Seeing the mail is one thing. Fully understanding it and grasping that it

Re: Improper NMU (Re: NMU for libquota-perl)

2002-09-03 Thread Josip Rodin
On Tue, Sep 03, 2002 at 01:25:34PM +0200, Peter Mathiasson wrote: Therefore the NMU. When you have finally understood the problem and solved it, either through incorporating the NMU or in your own way, you (the maintainer) can upload a new version. How about we start from the simple issue of

Re: Improper NMU (Re: NMU for libquota-perl)

2002-09-03 Thread Mark Brown
On Tue, Sep 03, 2002 at 01:25:34PM +0200, Peter Mathiasson wrote: And by the use of DELAYED it does not even need to be installed in the pool before you react. Why get so upset about a, what I can tell from this discussion, working NMU. Having been in this position in the past I have to say

Re: Improper NMU (Re: NMU for libquota-perl)

2002-09-03 Thread Peter Mathiasson
On Tue, Sep 03, 2002 at 01:49:14PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: How about we start from the simple issue of notifying maintainers and making sure they are _aware_ of the exact problems? People can be reasonably alert for fixing their packages without knowing what's that's going on in the bigger

Re: Improper NMU (Re: NMU for libquota-perl)

2002-09-03 Thread Josip Rodin
On Tue, Sep 03, 2002 at 01:58:57PM +0200, Peter Mathiasson wrote: What I'm trying to say is, does it really matter? Why not just make a maintainer upload when you have time, be it before or after the NMU enters the pool. For you the NMU seems like a waste of time, but it was not a waste of

Re: pbuilder sid chroot libpcap0

2002-09-03 Thread Junichi Uekawa
On Tue, 3 Sep 2002 12:40:02 +1000 Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't install the latest version of debootstrap (in case this is going to help), the whole idea of using pbuilder was so I don't have to upgrade libc6 to unstable on my host system. You may upgrade your chroot from woody.

Re: Is it me, pbuilder, dpkg or something else?

2002-09-03 Thread Junichi Uekawa
On Tue, 3 Sep 2002 12:30:43 +0300 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Extracting source unable to get login information for username shaul at /usr/lib/dpkg/controllib.pl line 56. Compilation failed in require at /usr/bin/dpkg-source line 22. pbuilder: Failed extracting the source - unmounting

Re: pbuilder sid chroot libpcap0

2002-09-03 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Tue, Sep 03, 2002 at 09:55:06PM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote: You may upgrade your chroot from woody. pbuilder create --distribution woody pbuilder update --distribution sid Tnx for the hint. Anyway, do you know when a fixed version of pbuilder will be available? I have to use pbuilder on

Re: pbuilder sid chroot libpcap0

2002-09-03 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Tue, Sep 03, 2002 at 03:25:16PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: Anyway, do you know when a fixed version of pbuilder will be available? Never mind: I've just tried a pbuilder create --distribution sid and it worked fine. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli - undergraduate student of CS @ Univ.

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Re: [PHP] Placement of PHP programs?

2002-09-03 Thread alex
On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 05:30:13PM -0700, Ian Zimmerman wrote: Well, I have always held (right or wrong) pretty much the opposite view to yours: /var/www _is_ for Debian content, and local content belongs in /usr/local. (thats why you don't see all that much in my /var/www :-] ) IMO this is

Re: task-spanish exists: expansion proposal (was Re: Where are tasks now and how are they handled? (Woody sucks because there is no Task: Spanish))

2002-09-03 Thread Joey Hess
Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: Thanks. Then is everyone ok if I include (or submit bug against the packages that don't) Task: spanish to the control files for No, that's not how it works. File a bug against tasksel if you are not seeing the spanish task, which it already has. Try

Re: Where are tasks now and how are they handled?

2002-09-03 Thread Erich Schubert
Then the policy document is wrong? Shouldn't it be bugged? I guess the policy document describes how this is to be done _now_. (That is after woody ;) Whereas the override file was they way this was handled for woody. Maybe ask on debian-policy on this issue? Greetings, Erich --

Re: Stacked Debconf

2002-09-03 Thread Joey Hess
Henning Glawe wrote: the manpage of debconf.conf says it uses the topmost writable database in a stack for saving users choices. But debconf complains if the topmost database in a stack isn't writable. This will be fixed in a future release. -- see shy jo pgpIV3RmBj44W.pgp Description:

Re: lilo-22.3.2-3 trashed my SCSI disk

2002-09-03 Thread Russell Coker
On Tue, 3 Sep 2002 08:44, Svante Signell wrote: After upgrade of lilo in unstable my whole SCSI disk got trashed. It could only be recovered with the use of the IBM drive fitness test tool, and a complete erase disk was necessary :-( What happened? If you need to run an IBM diagnostics program

foomatic unmaintained?

2002-09-03 Thread Rainer Dorsch
Hello, some weeks ago I was installing an HP OfficeJet and on the hpoj mailing list somebody was pointing out that I need the latest version of foomatic to get good results.but it seems that the Debian foomatic-{bin,db} packages in sid are outdated. I contacted the maintainer, Manfred

Re: Improper NMU (Re: NMU for libquota-perl)

2002-09-03 Thread Peter Mathiasson
On Tue, Sep 03, 2002 at 02:19:03PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: NMUer time is better spent on really unmaintained packages. Amen. -- Peter Mathiasson, peter at mathiasson dot nu, http://www.mathiasson.nu GPG Fingerprint: A9A7 F8F6 9821 F415 B066 77F1 7FF5 C2E6 7BF2 F228 pgpydQfe90SCO.pgp

Re: Kernel problem

2002-09-03 Thread Michael Meskes
On Tue, Sep 03, 2002 at 08:11:41PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: Which 2.4.19 kernel package did you install and what is the exact error message? The error message is: BIOS data check successful Interestingly the very same message is printed my my manually installed 2.4.18 kernel, but not by the

Bug#159496: ITP: libsdl-console -- Console for SDL application

2002-09-03 Thread Julien Danjou
Package: wnpp Version: N/A; reported 2002-09-03 Severity: wishlist * Package name: libsdl-console Version : 1.1 Upstream Author : Boris Lesner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Garrett Banuk [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://sdlconsole.tuxfamily.org * License

Re: Improper NMU (Re: NMU for libquota-perl)

2002-09-03 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Le Tue, Sep 03, 2002 at 12:52:52PM +0200, Josip Rodin écrivait: I agree, filing bugs and direct mails are much better than -devel-announce posts, much less likely for one to skip by accident IMHO. Can we file bugs to ask that a package needs to be recompiled and uploaded in a staging area ?

Re: Improper NMU (Re: NMU for libquota-perl)

2002-09-03 Thread The Doctor What
* Elie Rosenblum ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [020902 11:43]: DELAYED is fine. Not submitting a bug is not fine. Can DELAYED be set up to email the maintainer with the changelog? Would that help the unexpected NMU from ambushing the maintainer? Ciao! -- When the only tool you have is a hammer, you

Re: Dumb little utilities

2002-09-03 Thread J. Scott Edwards
On Wed Aug 28 11:37:29 2002 Allan Wind wrote: On 2002-08-27 21:59:28, J. Scott Edwards wrote: tab and untab (I just discovered that this can be done with pr). tr I'm not the brightest bulb in the box, so perhaps it's just me, but tr seems kind of a complicated way to do this. I don't

Re: NMU for bayonne

2002-09-03 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Le Tue, Sep 03, 2002 at 08:12:58PM +1000, Mark Purcell écrivait: Bas, Mark, why do you need to complain about that in -devel ? It is actually courtesy to file a bug/ contact the maintainer prior to uploading a NMU (even to DELAYED/3-day). Have a look at Bug #159174 which I received two

Re: Improper NMU (Re: NMU for libquota-perl)

2002-09-03 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Le Tue, Sep 03, 2002 at 01:01:33PM -0500, The Doctor What écrivait: * Elie Rosenblum ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [020902 11:43]: DELAYED is fine. Not submitting a bug is not fine. Can DELAYED be set up to email the maintainer with the changelog? Would that help the unexpected NMU from ambushing

Re: old ITP's

2002-09-03 Thread Noah Meyerhans
On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 07:06:23PM -0700, Vikram wrote: If you are too busy for this I still offer to look into packaging tcptrace with xplot. If you want to go ahead and package xplot, please do. You'll need to handle the fact that we've already got an xplot package that installs a program

Dependencies on -dev packages

2002-09-03 Thread Stephen Zander
What is the thinking behind always requiring libfoo-dev to depend on libbar-dev when libfoo depends on libbar? I understand the need when /usr/include/foo.h contains #include bar.h but if libfoo opaquely wraps libbar, why have libfoo-dev depend on libbar-dev? -- Stephen Farcical aquatic

Re: Improper NMU (Re: NMU for libquota-perl)

2002-09-03 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include hallo.h * Peter Mathiasson [Tue, Sep 03 2002, 06:44:54PM]: On Tue, Sep 03, 2002 at 02:19:03PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: NMUer time is better spent on really unmaintained packages. Amen. Dito. Unused and maintained package are not bad, they will be excluded if they have RC bugs. But

Re: old ITP's

2002-09-03 Thread Roland Bauerschmidt
Noah Meyerhans wrote: program called xplot. Consider using the alternatives system for that. You'll need to coordinate with the maintainer of the other xplot package for that to work. That sounds ugly though - having an alternative for something that does entirely different stuff. Isn't it

Re: Improper NMU (Re: NMU for libquota-perl)

2002-09-03 Thread Stephen Frost
* Raphael Hertzog ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Le Tue, Sep 03, 2002 at 01:01:33PM -0500, The Doctor What écrivait: * Elie Rosenblum ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [020902 11:43]: DELAYED is fine. Not submitting a bug is not fine. Can DELAYED be set up to email the maintainer with the changelog?

Re: Dumb little utilities

2002-09-03 Thread J. Scott Edwards
On Wed, 28 Aug 2002 Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: Ola Lundqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: tab and untab (I just discovered that this can be done with pr). If it can be done with something else it might not be too necessary. It is your choice though. JFYI, it can also be done with

Re: Dumb little utilities

2002-09-03 Thread J. Scott Edwards
On Wed, 28 Aug 2002 Romain Lerallut wrote: Thus spake J. Scott Edwards on Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 09:59:28PM -0600: file renamer (that can change case). Just asking: anything that mmv can't do ? (I guess that you meant 'mv'?) Anyway, it's similar to the 'rename' command that someone else

Re: Improper NMU (Re: NMU for libquota-perl)

2002-09-03 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Sep 03, 2002 at 03:03:34PM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote: Additionally I'm of half a mind to suggest that the maintainer have the ability to remove the files from the DELAYED system; their timing may be off, the person who put them there may be unavailable, etc. I agree. Actually I was

Re: Dumb little utilities

2002-09-03 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Sep 03, 2002 at 01:02:20PM -0600, J. Scott Edwards wrote: On Wed, 28 Aug 2002 Romain Lerallut wrote: Thus spake J. Scott Edwards on Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 09:59:28PM -0600: file renamer (that can change case). Just asking: anything that mmv can't do ? (I guess that you meant

Re: foomatic unmaintained?

2002-09-03 Thread Samuli Suonpaa
Rainer Dorsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello, some weeks ago I was installing an HP OfficeJet and on the hpoj mailing list somebody was pointing out that I need the latest version of foomatic to get good results.but it seems that the Debian foomatic-{bin,db} packages in sid are

Re: RFC: A regression test framework for Debian packages?

2002-09-03 Thread Jérôme Marant
Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au writes: Build time is important too: that's the only time you can attempt fine grained testing of modules rather than executables, and it lets you catch problems before you upload too. eg, after some irritating bugs that happened to only show up on one or

Re: Some proposals about the Email-subsystem, was Re: RFC: OpenLDAP and TLS/SSL

2002-09-03 Thread Jorge . Lehner
Hello! On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 01:52:13PM +0200, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: On Sun, Aug 25, 2002 at 02:56:46PM +1000, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: ... What I'm saying is that to must have a mail-server install, even if it is just ssmtp or something like that. Yes,

Re: Packages.bz2, Sources.bz2, Contents-*.bz2, oh my

2002-09-03 Thread Jorge . Lehner
Hello! On Sat, Aug 31, 2002 at 05:16:15AM -0400, Colin Walters wrote: On Fri, 2002-08-30 at 23:05, Goswin Brederlow wrote: That will also break rsyncing them, which saves a lot. Let's just keep pestering gzip upstream to include the rsyncable patch. ... I want to second this, as the

Re: Dumb little utilities

2002-09-03 Thread J. Scott Edwards
On Tue, 3 Sep 2002, I wrote: On Wed, 28 Aug 2002 Romain Lerallut wrote: Thus spake J. Scott Edwards on Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 09:59:28PM -0600: file renamer (that can change case). Just asking: anything that mmv can't do ? (I guess that you meant 'mv'?) I feel appropriately

Re: Dependencies on -dev packages

2002-09-03 Thread J.H.M. Dassen (Ray)
On Tue, Sep 03, 2002 at 11:58:10 -0700, Stephen Zander wrote: but if libfoo opaquely wraps libbar, why have libfoo-dev depend on libbar-dev? How opaque is that opaque when considering the case of linking against a library statically? Ray -- The problem with the global village is all the

Re: Improper NMU (Re: NMU for libquota-perl)

2002-09-03 Thread Goswin Brederlow
Martin Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, 2 Sep 2002, Sebastian Rittau wrote: If you're not able to maintain your packages properly and in a timely manner, and your holding up a major part of the distribution, it's your fault. I'm interested in this. Individuals differ

Re: Dumb little utilities

2002-09-03 Thread Goswin Brederlow
J. Scott Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed Aug 28 11:37:29 2002 Allan Wind wrote: On 2002-08-27 21:59:28, J. Scott Edwards wrote: file slicer (that can slice up a file into different size chunks). dd? Yea, that would do it, slightly more cumbersome to use. split ? MfG

Re: Dependencies on -dev packages

2002-09-03 Thread Goswin Brederlow
Stephen Zander [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What is the thinking behind always requiring libfoo-dev to depend on libbar-dev when libfoo depends on libbar? I understand the need when /usr/include/foo.h contains #include bar.h but if libfoo opaquely wraps libbar, why have libfoo-dev depend

Re: Dependencies on -dev packages

2002-09-03 Thread Stephen Zander
Ray == J H M Dassen J.H.M. writes: Ray How opaque is that opaque when considering the case of Ray linking against a library statically? That need might reasonably be met with a Recommends: or Suggests: -- Stephen To Republicans, limited government means not assisting people they would

Re: Dumb little utilities

2002-09-03 Thread Malcolm Parsons
On Tue, Sep 03, 2002 at 01:07:28PM -0600, J. Scott Edwards wrote: On Wed, 28 Aug 2002 Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: Ola Lundqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: tab and untab (I just discovered that this can be done with pr). If it can be done with something else it might not be too

Re: Dumb little utilities

2002-09-03 Thread Clint Adams
And if you use zsh, you don't need to bother with mmv or rename, since there's zmv. Anyway, it's similar to the 'rename' command that someone else mentioned. It renames multiple files like converting all the files in a directory from upper to lower case mmv \* \#l1 zmv '(*)' '${(L)1}'

Re: Improper NMU (Re: NMU for libquota-perl)

2002-09-03 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Tue, Sep 03, 2002 at 02:19:03PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: A NMU is a waste of effort if the same thing can be done by the maintainer after just one quick email message -- primarily a waste of effort for the NMUer who has to go in and figure out how to fix the package, not the maintainer. If

Bug#159523: ITP: rrdcollect -- RRDcollect - Round-Robin Database Collecting Daemon

2002-09-03 Thread qnex
Package: wnpp Version: N/A; reported 2002-09-04 Severity: wishlist * Package name: rrdcollect Version : 0.2 Upstream Author : Dawid Kuroczko [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://rrdcollect.sourceforge.net/ * License : GPL Description : RRDcollect -

Bug#159522: ITP: gjay -- an automatic and learning DJ for xmms

2002-09-03 Thread martin f krafft
Package: wnpp Version: N/A; reported 2002-09-03 Severity: wishlist * Package name: gjay Version : 0.1 Upstream Author : Chuck Groom [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://gjay.sourceforge.net * License : GPL Description : an automatic and learning DJ for xmms

Re: task-spanish exists: expansion proposal (was Re: Where are tasks now and how are they handled? (Woody sucks because there is no Task: Spanish))

2002-09-03 Thread Rene Engelhard
Hi Joey, Joey Hess wrote: Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: Thanks. Then is everyone ok if I include (or submit bug against the packages that don't) Task: spanish to the control files for No, that's not how it works. File a bug against tasksel if you are not seeing the spanish

Re: Dependencies on -dev packages

2002-09-03 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Tue, Sep 03, 2002 at 01:57:33PM -0700, Stephen Zander wrote: Ray == J H M Dassen J.H.M. writes: Ray How opaque is that opaque when considering the case of Ray linking against a library statically? That need might reasonably be met with a Recommends: or Suggests: Recommends and

Re: Improper NMU (Re: NMU for libquota-perl)

2002-09-03 Thread Stephen Depooter
On Tue, 2002-09-03 at 18:13, Andrew Suffield wrote: And lastly, am I the only one who finds complaining about *other people* wasting effort to be insane in a volunteer-based organisation? There's a difference between advice, and telling people what to spend their time on. Am I the only one

Re: Packages.bz2, Sources.bz2, Contents-*.bz2, oh my

2002-09-03 Thread Craig Sanders
i'm not 100% certain that it's related but for the last week or so, i've been unable to run apt-get update on any of my home machines. what i get is: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [09:01:52] ~# apt-get update Get:1 http://siva.taz.net.au unstable/main Packages [2097kB] Get:2 http://siva.taz.net.au

Re: Improper NMU (Re: NMU for libquota-perl)

2002-09-03 Thread Josip Rodin
On Tue, Sep 03, 2002 at 11:13:07PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: On Tue, Sep 03, 2002 at 02:19:03PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: A NMU is a waste of effort if the same thing can be done by the maintainer after just one quick email message -- primarily a waste of effort for the NMUer who has to

Re: bugs.debian.org: ChangeLog closes handling should be changed

2002-09-03 Thread Goswin Brederlow
Gerfried Fuchs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-08-29 09:50]: On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 08:48:31AM +0200, Gerfried Fuchs wrote: What we need is a change here: Bugs should just be closed in unstable. How to do this? They should be rather be tagged sarge than be

Re: Dependencies on -dev packages

2002-09-03 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 03 Sep 2002, Goswin Brederlow wrote: Stephen Zander [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What is the thinking behind always requiring libfoo-dev to depend on libbar-dev when libfoo depends on libbar? I understand the need when The lack of symbol versioning, about 90% of the time. but if

Re: Dependencies on -dev packages

2002-09-03 Thread Stephen Zander
I wrote a longer response to this but then thought about what you wrote a bit more and deleted it. Henrique == Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Henrique The lack of symbol versioning, about 90% of the time. Then why not mandate symbol versioning instead; that would be

Re: foomatic unmaintained?

2002-09-03 Thread Chris Lawrence
On Sep 03, Rainer Dorsch wrote: some weeks ago I was installing an HP OfficeJet and on the hpoj mailing list somebody was pointing out that I need the latest version of foomatic to get good results.but it seems that the Debian foomatic-{bin,db} packages in sid are outdated. I contacted

Deleting /var/cache/*

2002-09-03 Thread Duncan Findlay
I deleted /var/cache/* today to free up some space on my /var partition. However, instead of applications re-creating the files as I expected, I recieved a bunch of error messages. apt/apt-get refused to do anything until I manually created the directory /var/cache/apt/archives/partial I also

Re: Deleting /var/cache/*

2002-09-03 Thread Joey Hess
Duncan Findlay wrote: True, the FHS does not specifically say that directories have to be recreated, but I would consider it a bug if they aren't. Anyone agree? I think it would be at best a feature request, but I would like to see that feature implemented, nontheless.. -- see shy jo

Re: Deleting /var/cache/*

2002-09-03 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Tue, Sep 03, 2002 at 10:34:23PM -0400, Duncan Findlay wrote: I deleted /var/cache/* today to free up some space on my /var partition. However, instead of applications re-creating the files as I expected, I recieved a bunch of error messages. apt/apt-get refused to do anything until I

Re: Dependencies on -dev packages

2002-09-03 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 03 Sep 2002, Stephen Zander wrote: I wrote a longer response to this but then thought about what you wrote a bit more and deleted it. Henrique == Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Henrique The lack of symbol versioning, about 90% of the time. Then why not

Re: task-spanish exists: expansion proposal (was Re: Where are tasks now and how are they handled? (Woody sucks because there is no Task: Spanish))

2002-09-03 Thread Joey Hess
Rene Engelhard wrote: Hmm. According to the latest policy the Task: method should be used which I think is not the best thing... From the changelog of Debian policy package: debian-policy (3.5.7.0) unstable; urgency=low [...] * we no longer have task packages, instead, we define

Re: Dumb little utilities

2002-09-03 Thread Joey Hess
Clint Adams wrote: alias ren='noglob zmv -W' ren *.c *.x Ok, I love zsh and all, but: RUN AWAY!! I find the last preferable to the more cumbersome syntaxes of rename and mmv. rename 's/\.c$/.x/' cumbersome? -- see shy jo, suffering 4dos flashbacks (see my .zshrc) pgpl43ZOy1ZMN.pgp

Accepted mosixview 1.0-5.1 (i386 source)

2002-09-03 Thread Colin Watson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 08:52:25 +0100 Source: mosixview Binary: mosixview Architecture: source i386 Version: 1.0-5.1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Viral Shah [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Accepted xmms-sid 0.7.4-1 (i386 source)

2002-09-03 Thread Gerfried Fuchs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 09:56:34 +0200 Source: xmms-sid Binary: xmms-sid Architecture: source i386 Version: 0.7.4-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Gerfried Fuchs [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Gerfried Fuchs [EMAIL

Accepted lvm10 1:1.0.4-7 (i386 source)

2002-09-03 Thread Patrick Caulfield
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 10:30:35 +0100 Source: lvm10 Binary: lvm10 Architecture: source i386 Version: 1:1.0.4-7 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Patrick Caulfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Patrick Caulfield [EMAIL

Accepted bigloo 2.5a+really2.5b-beta-2002-09-02-1 (i386 source all)

2002-09-03 Thread Yann Dirson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Format: 1.7 Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2002 23:02:34 +0200 Source: bigloo Binary: bigloo-runtime-2.5b bigloo-ude bigloo-devtools bigloo bigloo-examples bigloo-doc Architecture: source all i386 Version: 2.5a+really2.5b-beta-2002-09-02-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency:

Accepted e2fsprogs 1.28-1 (i386 source)

2002-09-03 Thread Yann Dirson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Format: 1.7 Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2002 23:34:55 +0200 Source: e2fsprogs Binary: e2fsck-static e2fsprogs-bf e2fslibs-dev comerr-dev ss-dev e2fsprogs uuid-dev Architecture: source i386 Version: 1.28-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Yann Dirson [EMAIL

Accepted tora 1.3.7-4 (i386 source)

2002-09-03 Thread Michael Meskes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2002 11:44:46 +0200 Source: tora Binary: tora Architecture: source i386 Version: 1.3.7-4 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Michael Meskes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Michael Meskes [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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