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Matt Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 02:17:10PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 11:55:35AM -0500, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
To rely on gracious behaviour from other organisms is a losing
evolutionary
strategy, and to attempt to avoid
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 12:19:13PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
Andrew Suffield [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 11:54:43PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
Humour does not have to be at the expense of other
people.
Where's the evidence? (Heinlein would
This package:
http://packages.debian.org/unstable/editors/the.html
never shows up when you search for the in
http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages
I assume it's because the search engine ignores common words like the
:-) Also, because the BTS uses the search engine to link to
On Thu, 2002-11-21 at 15:15, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
Craig Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
i remember a year or so ago when i complained about this worthless
practice i said that it would end up consuming hundreds of megabytes
- i was told that was ridiculous, it would never happen.
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 12:15:12PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
Branden, could we afford to buy a couple 110 GB disks to hold this
increase?
I really don't like to wear my SPI Treasurer hat on this mailing list,
and with that hat on I don't like to offer opinions about how Debian
should
Hi,
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 07:38:05PM +, Colin Watson wrote:
Works for my key. Did it formerly find key ids for people who aren't in
the Debian keyring?
I have tested it with my own key. And yes it was find before.
Think it find your because it is in the debian keyring and _not_ only
one
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 03:32:33PM -0500, Benoit Peccatte wrote:
10% of the whole distribution : that's a lot
Moreover bandwidth costs too.
multiple architectures can be placed on different servers. The overall
traffic will not increase and the overall disk space also wont.
But well, perhaps
Hi Thorsten,
Thorsten Sauter wrote:
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 07:38:05PM +, Colin Watson wrote:
Works for my key. Did it formerly find key ids for people who aren't in
the Debian keyring?
I have tested it with my own key. And yes it was find before.
Think it find your because it is in
On Nov 21, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
Now, if we were to have precompiled binaries for say ten different
varieties of i386 (and I think that's enough to make anyone happy),
the 6GB currently holding 386 packages would be 60, for a net increase
of 54GB.
We'd need perhaps three different
Hi,
anyone can agree that this is a little bit more clearer?
snip
Description: Display program shortcuts as icons on desktop
With idesk you can define shortcut's for several programs
and display these icons with a short description on the
desktop of any window manager.
.
It can use png
Le jeu 21/11/2002 à 21:44, Bernd Eckenfels a écrit :
But well, perhaps we can just stop supporting Pentium in the default
distribution and this will already help. Then a single dedicated server can
host the old system debian distribution for 386/486 compatibility. PErhaps
even with some space
Hello,
hmm. maybe we misunderstand us :)
No, you defenitely are _not_ in the Debian keyring.
I'm *not* in the debian keyring, but before the century crash :), my gpg key
was find by qa because it was stored on one of the public servers.
Please see for this the original error message also:
GPG
On Thu, 2002-11-21 at 15:44, Bernd Eckenfels wrote:
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 03:32:33PM -0500, Benoit Peccatte wrote:
10% of the whole distribution : that's a lot
Moreover bandwidth costs too.
multiple architectures can be placed on different servers. The overall
traffic will not increase
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 01:36:07PM -0500, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 02:19:50AM -0700, Joel Baker wrote:
And/or, has katie advanced to the point where mere mortals can actually get
it installed and working without taking a 3D6 SAN loss?
For all of it's limitations (and
On Wednesday 20 November 2002 20:51, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 11:07:13AM -0800, Michael Cardenas wrote:
To quote from the gentoo intro:
(glibc-2.2.5, gcc 3.2, XFS, ReiserFS, ext3, EVMS, LVM, ALSA,
pcmcia-cs support, ... KDE 3.0 and 3.1_beta and GNOME 2.0.2
I sure
This one time, at band camp, Mark Howard wrote:
I also vote for removing any other upstream bookmarks (e.g. rpm search,
slackware searches). Feel free to disagree, with a convincing argument.
I use a Debian workstation, but admin a collection of Debian and Red Hat
machines -- remove the rpm
On Thu, 2002-11-21 at 15:58, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le jeu 21/11/2002 à 21:44, Bernd Eckenfels a écrit :
But well, perhaps we can just stop supporting Pentium in the default
distribution and this will already help. Then a single dedicated server can
host the old system debian
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 11:51:34AM -0500, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 12:06:40AM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
I don't believe that transfer will be CPU bound, but rather network and/or
internal bus bandwidth limited.
It is not unusual for large scp jobs to be CPU bound
On Fri, 2002-11-22 at 06:36, Alexander Neumann wrote:
John Goerzen wrote:
GRUNT is a tool to let you execute commands remotely, offline.
It will also let you copy files to a remote machine.
How did you solve the problem of re-sending such mails? Say, Joe Evil
Cracker is able to catch a
On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 02:38:29PM -0500, Mark Mealman wrote:
Gentoo on the other hand uses a build system that allows for rapid
deployment(KDE 3.1 final is in Gentoo and I don't think 3.1 has even
been officially announced yet), but it won't ever achieve Debian's
stability.
How can it
On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 05:48:39PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 02:57:25PM -0500, Phillip Hofmeister wrote:
If user confusion is the issue, why not just rename all non-free
packages to packagename-nf or packagename-nonfree or something of the
like?
Just a
As discussed previously, I'll be filing bugs against any source or
binary packages which still depend on the obsolete xlib6g* packages.
These will be normal severity for now, but will be raised to serious
severity (for source packages) or grave severity (for binary packages)
once these packages
Chris Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
We'd need perhaps three different m68k varieties (two more than now),
one more Sparc, one more alpha, no more powerpc IIUC, no more arm, one
more mips, one more HPPA (or two?), no more ia64 or s390. So that's
nine more varities of 386 to consider,
Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 12:19:13PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
Andrew Suffield [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 11:54:43PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
Humour does not have to be at the expense of other
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 08:36:37PM +0100, Alexander Neumann wrote:
John Goerzen wrote:
GRUNT is a tool to let you execute commands remotely, offline.
It will also let you copy files to a remote machine.
How did you solve the problem of re-sending such mails? Say, Joe Evil
Cracker is
HI Thorsten,
Thorsten Sauter wrote:
Hello,
hmm. maybe we misunderstand us :)
Uups, yes. The second time I read your message I replied to I see.
Misread your sentence.
Sorry.
Regards,
Rene
--
.''`. Rene Engelhard -- Debian GNU/Linux Developer
: :' : http://www.debian.org |
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 02:07:23PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
Well, a likelihood is not a certainly. I, for one, certainly agree with
him that kissing girls is a goodness that beats the hell out of card
games...
Not me! I'd much rather be kissing Johnny Depp.
Johnny Depp
On Thu, 2002-11-21 at 15:56, Thorsten Sauter wrote:
Hi,
anyone can agree that this is a little bit more clearer?
snip
Description: Display program shortcuts as icons on desktop
With idesk you can define shortcut's for several programs
The apostophe is an error.
and display these
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 02:03:06PM -0800, Daniel Schepler wrote:
Binary packages (excluding those in source packages listed above):
wmmoonclock, xaw3dg-dev, xcin2.3, xdigger, xdkcal, xgraph, xsol,
I'm not sure how you gather that
Josip Rodin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 02:03:06PM -0800, Daniel Schepler wrote:
Binary packages (excluding those in source packages listed above):
wmmoonclock, xaw3dg-dev, xcin2.3, xdigger, xdkcal, xgraph, xsol,
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 02:03:06PM -0800, Daniel Schepler wrote:
As discussed previously, I'll be filing bugs against any source or
binary packages which still depend on the obsolete xlib6g* packages.
These will be normal severity for now, but will be raised to serious
severity (for source
I'm forwarding this message to the list with the permission of the
author, since it relates to the recent thread about mass filing of
bugs regarding libxaw-dev.
---BeginMessage---
On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 10:27:25PM -0800, Daniel Schepler wrote:
Package: acfax
Severity: normal
This package
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 02:31:03PM -0800, Daniel Schepler wrote:
Binary packages (excluding those in source packages listed above):
wmmoonclock, xaw3dg-dev, xcin2.3, xdigger, xdkcal, xgraph, xsol,
I'm not sure how you
On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 08:36:12AM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 11:51:34AM -0500, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 12:06:40AM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
I don't believe that transfer will be CPU bound, but rather network and/or
internal bus
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 03:31:52PM -0500, H. S. Teoh [EMAIL PROTECTED] was
heard to say:
This package:
http://packages.debian.org/unstable/editors/the.html
never shows up when you search for the in
http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages
I assume it's because the search engine
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 06:18:30PM -0500, Daniel Burrows wrote:
This package:
http://packages.debian.org/unstable/editors/the.html
never shows up when you search for the in
http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages
I assume it's because the search engine ignores common words
On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, H. S. Teoh wrote:
I assume it's because the search engine ignores common words like the
:-) Also, because the BTS uses the search engine to link to the package
pages, the package link on the BTS page for the will never turn up
anything.
The BTS uses the search engine?
Le jeu 21/11/2002 à 23:12, John Goerzen a écrit :
After verifying the signature on the data, the receiver does some sanity
checks. One of the checks is doing an md5sum over the entire file
(remember, this includes both the headers and the payload). If it
has seen the same md5sum in the last
From: Julian Gilbey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: skip to put some version in testing/sarge
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 14:08:31 +
tetex-bin 1.0.7+20021025-1 and -2 are a bit buggy so
I strongly want them not to be in testing/sarge.
And I would like to see only 1.0.7+20021025-3 and later
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 01:49:33PM +0100, Ola Lundqvist wrote:
Hello
Some people might have notived that I have made some
(dramatic?) changes to the vnc packages. The reason is
that the upstream development have started again. :)
The problem is that I used to have the tightvnc patches
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 11:45:55AM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
Craig Dickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
True, but Thomas Bushness was pretty clearly advocating supplying
optimized binaries from the repository. Perhaps you missed that
implication.
There is no such person who has
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 05:43:43PM -0600, Adam Heath wrote:
On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, H. S. Teoh wrote:
I assume it's because the search engine ignores common words like the
:-) Also, because the BTS uses the search engine to link to the package
pages, the package link on the BTS page for the
On Fri, 22 Nov 2002, Colin Watson wrote:
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 05:43:43PM -0600, Adam Heath wrote:
On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, H. S. Teoh wrote:
I assume it's because the search engine ignores common words like the
:-) Also, because the BTS uses the search engine to link to the package
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 02:07:00PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
The habits (and I have them too) of thinking that disk space is costly
are really old habits that it's time to break.
No, it's not. Low end disks are cheap. High end disks still aren't.
Bandwidth still isn't. Especially when
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 12:15:12PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
Craig Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
i remember a year or so ago when i complained about this worthless
practice i said that it would end up consuming hundreds of megabytes
- i was told that was ridiculous, it would
Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Well, see, now Manoj would say that none at all were funny. What
statistical conclusions am I to derive from that?
That you're not as funny as you think you are?
Still, he is often very funny (and on target), and to be honest, I think
he's quite right
On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 12:01:12PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
Current cost of hard disk is something between $1.00 and $1.50 per
gigabyte.
it's not just the cost of disk space, it's the cost of bandwidth too -
and recurring bandwidth expenses cost a LOT more than disks (once-off
capital
* Michael Cardenas
| What we really need is a debian installer web page that has a link to
| cvs, the current status, the mailing list, and the current todo list
| front and center. I'm planning on adding this to my p.d.o site, but I
| haven't had the time yet, as I've been working on udebs for
* Michael Stone
| On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 10:26:37AM -0800, Mike Fedyk wrote:
| Yes, please use experemental more than it is now.
|
| Please never use experimental. I much prefer private apt repositories
| with discrete units (e.g., an X repository or gnome repository) over
| experimental,
* Tim Dijkstra
| I've got a new old box to play with. Naturally I'll have to install
| debian on it (was planning to install sarge). I remember some people on
| the list asking for debian-installer testers. I would be happy to be
| one, but where can I find it?
Mostly-fresh images can be found
On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 02:29:48AM +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
* Michael Stone
| On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 10:26:37AM -0800, Mike Fedyk wrote:
| Yes, please use experemental more than it is now.
|
| Please never use experimental. I much prefer private apt repositories
| with discrete
Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 02:07:00PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
The habits (and I have them too) of thinking that disk space is costly
are really old habits that it's time to break.
No, it's not. Low end disks are cheap. High end disks still
Craig Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
which I will assume to be correct.
how generous of you. you could have quibbled about every line of the
directory listing i provided, but you restrained yourself - for that
small mercy, i will be forever in your debt.
I wasn't being generous, just
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NOKUBI Takatsugu)
Subject: Re: Proposal - non-free software removal
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 21:25:01 JST
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
xpdf-japanese
cmap-adobe-japan1
cmap-adobe-japan2
cmap-adobe-korea1
cmap-adobe-gb1
It also makes it 5 times as hard to build a modules package for our
stock kernels. And uses an equivilant of extra space there of course.
If you punch out a kernel module package its not so bad if all the
headers files are installed. I wrote up a e1000 kernel package before
it showed up here
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 05:48:47PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 02:07:00PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
The habits (and I have them too) of thinking that disk space is costly
are really old habits that it's time to
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 07:27:06PM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 12:01:12PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
Current cost of hard disk is something between $1.00 and $1.50 per
gigabyte.
it's not just the cost of disk space, it's the cost of bandwidth too
- and
Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 02:07:23PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
Well, a likelihood is not a certainly. I, for one, certainly agree with
him that kissing girls is a goodness that beats the hell out of card
games...
Not me! I'd much
Branden == Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Branden On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 12:18:20PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote:
This is, what, the fourth or fifth? post from Manoj in reply to one of your
non-free-debate-related joke. One or two were funny, sure, but I think we've
all lost the
Matt == Matt Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Matt On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 12:48:51AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
Emile == Emile van Bergen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Emile Leaving me wondering how the collection of selfish genes, known as the
Emile individual Manoj, was driven to
Miles == Miles Bader [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Miles Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Well, see, now Manoj would say that none at all were funny. What
statistical conclusions am I to derive from that?
That you're not as funny as you think you are?
Miles Still, he is often very
Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
There's how much does disk space cost?, and then there's we have x
disk space available currently, and no budget for expansion right now;
we only use y GB of it; how much can we mirror with the free disk space
as a service to the community?
This is
Branden == Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Branden Well, a likelihood is not a certainly. I, for one,
Branden certainly agree with him that kissing girls is a goodness
Branden that beats the hell out of card games...
Being happily married, kissing girl(s) plural does not
Andrew == Andrew Suffield [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Andrew On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 11:54:43PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
Humour does not have to be at the expense of other
people.
Andrew Where's the evidence? (Heinlein would disagree with you)
ok. Even though evidence is hard
Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Being happily married, kissing girl(s) plural does not enter
the realm of goodness by any stretch of the imagination.
A good game of bridge, on the other hand ...
So it's agreed! A game of bridge, me, Branden, Manoj, and some
unnamed
On Wed, 20 Nov 2002 22:23:17 +0200
Mikko Moilanen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 02:47:16PM -0500, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
Are you suggesting that you would prefer the latest software, without the
integration that Debian provides? If so, you can get this easily by
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 08:37:19PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
Matt == Matt Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 12:48:51AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
and if I can change social norms of conduct so that I would nto be
hurt in the future?
Karl == Karl M Hegbloom [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Karl Just a reminder... Will folks who place test packages in apt
Karl repositories PLEASE put Release files in there along with Packages
Karl and Sources, so that we can use the man apt_preferences functionality
Karl to Pin those test
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 09:35:51PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
Karl == Karl M Hegbloom [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Karl Just a reminder... Will folks who place test packages in apt
Karl repositories PLEASE put Release files in there along with Packages
Karl and Sources, so that we can use
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 05:40:39PM -0800, Mike Fedyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] was
heard to say:
Nice, (btw, this is documented in man apt_preferences) but how do you know
there is a new version available in experemental from apt-cache?
apt-cache show or showpkg will show this..
Daniel
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