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Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-21 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Matt Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 02:17:10PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 11:55:35AM -0500, Matt Zimmerman wrote: To rely on gracious behaviour from other organisms is a losing evolutionary strategy, and to attempt to avoid

Re: Ask yourself some questions

2002-11-21 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 12:19:13PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: Andrew Suffield [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 11:54:43PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Humour does not have to be at the expense of other people. Where's the evidence? (Heinlein would

Pathological case for Debian packages search page

2002-11-21 Thread H. S. Teoh
This package: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/editors/the.html never shows up when you search for the in http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages I assume it's because the search engine ignores common words like the :-) Also, because the BTS uses the search engine to link to

Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-21 Thread Benoit Peccatte
On Thu, 2002-11-21 at 15:15, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: Craig Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i remember a year or so ago when i complained about this worthless practice i said that it would end up consuming hundreds of megabytes - i was told that was ridiculous, it would never happen.

Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-21 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 12:15:12PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: Branden, could we afford to buy a couple 110 GB disks to hold this increase? I really don't like to wear my SPI Treasurer hat on this mailing list, and with that hat on I don't like to offer opinions about how Debian should

Re: gpg error at developer.php after the fire

2002-11-21 Thread Thorsten Sauter
Hi, On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 07:38:05PM +, Colin Watson wrote: Works for my key. Did it formerly find key ids for people who aren't in the Debian keyring? I have tested it with my own key. And yes it was find before. Think it find your because it is in the debian keyring and _not_ only one

Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-21 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 03:32:33PM -0500, Benoit Peccatte wrote: 10% of the whole distribution : that's a lot Moreover bandwidth costs too. multiple architectures can be placed on different servers. The overall traffic will not increase and the overall disk space also wont. But well, perhaps

Re: gpg error at developer.php after the fire

2002-11-21 Thread Rene Engelhard
Hi Thorsten, Thorsten Sauter wrote: On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 07:38:05PM +, Colin Watson wrote: Works for my key. Did it formerly find key ids for people who aren't in the Debian keyring? I have tested it with my own key. And yes it was find before. Think it find your because it is in

Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-21 Thread Chris Lawrence
On Nov 21, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: Now, if we were to have precompiled binaries for say ten different varieties of i386 (and I think that's enough to make anyone happy), the 6GB currently holding 386 packages would be 60, for a net increase of 54GB. We'd need perhaps three different

[mechanix@debian.org: Bug#169709: idesk: could use a better description]

2002-11-21 Thread Thorsten Sauter
Hi, anyone can agree that this is a little bit more clearer? snip Description: Display program shortcuts as icons on desktop With idesk you can define shortcut's for several programs and display these icons with a short description on the desktop of any window manager. . It can use png

Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-21 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le jeu 21/11/2002 à 21:44, Bernd Eckenfels a écrit : But well, perhaps we can just stop supporting Pentium in the default distribution and this will already help. Then a single dedicated server can host the old system debian distribution for 386/486 compatibility. PErhaps even with some space

Re: gpg error at developer.php after the fire

2002-11-21 Thread Thorsten Sauter
Hello, hmm. maybe we misunderstand us :) No, you defenitely are _not_ in the Debian keyring. I'm *not* in the debian keyring, but before the century crash :), my gpg key was find by qa because it was stored on one of the public servers. Please see for this the original error message also: GPG

Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-21 Thread Benoit Peccatte
On Thu, 2002-11-21 at 15:44, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 03:32:33PM -0500, Benoit Peccatte wrote: 10% of the whole distribution : that's a lot Moreover bandwidth costs too. multiple architectures can be placed on different servers. The overall traffic will not increase

Re: Test package apt repositories, and Release files.

2002-11-21 Thread Graham Wilson
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 01:36:07PM -0500, Matt Zimmerman wrote: On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 02:19:50AM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: And/or, has katie advanced to the point where mere mortals can actually get it installed and working without taking a 3D6 SAN loss? For all of it's limitations (and

Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-21 Thread Yven Leist
On Wednesday 20 November 2002 20:51, Matt Zimmerman wrote: On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 11:07:13AM -0800, Michael Cardenas wrote: To quote from the gentoo intro: (glibc-2.2.5, gcc 3.2, XFS, ReiserFS, ext3, EVMS, LVM, ALSA, pcmcia-cs support, ... KDE 3.0 and 3.1_beta and GNOME 2.0.2 I sure

Re: web browser bookmark defaults

2002-11-21 Thread Jamie Wilkinson
This one time, at band camp, Mark Howard wrote: I also vote for removing any other upstream bookmarks (e.g. rpm search, slackware searches). Feel free to disagree, with a convincing argument. I use a Debian workstation, but admin a collection of Debian and Red Hat machines -- remove the rpm

Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-21 Thread Benoit Peccatte
On Thu, 2002-11-21 at 15:58, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le jeu 21/11/2002 à 21:44, Bernd Eckenfels a écrit : But well, perhaps we can just stop supporting Pentium in the default distribution and this will already help. Then a single dedicated server can host the old system debian

Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-21 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 11:51:34AM -0500, Matt Zimmerman wrote: On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 12:06:40AM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: I don't believe that transfer will be CPU bound, but rather network and/or internal bus bandwidth limited. It is not unusual for large scp jobs to be CPU bound

Re: Bug#170069: ITP: grunt -- Secure remote execution via UUCP or e-mail using GPG

2002-11-21 Thread Jonathan Oxer
On Fri, 2002-11-22 at 06:36, Alexander Neumann wrote: John Goerzen wrote: GRUNT is a tool to let you execute commands remotely, offline. It will also let you copy files to a remote machine. How did you solve the problem of re-sending such mails? Say, Joe Evil Cracker is able to catch a

Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-21 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 02:38:29PM -0500, Mark Mealman wrote: Gentoo on the other hand uses a build system that allows for rapid deployment(KDE 3.1 final is in Gentoo and I don't think 3.1 has even been officially announced yet), but it won't ever achieve Debian's stability. How can it

s/(non-free|contrib)/non-debian/g?

2002-11-21 Thread Oliver Xymoron
On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 05:48:39PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 02:57:25PM -0500, Phillip Hofmeister wrote: If user confusion is the issue, why not just rename all non-free packages to packagename-nf or packagename-nonfree or something of the like? Just a

Another mass bug filing: get rid of xlib6g*

2002-11-21 Thread Daniel Schepler
As discussed previously, I'll be filing bugs against any source or binary packages which still depend on the obsolete xlib6g* packages. These will be normal severity for now, but will be raised to serious severity (for source packages) or grave severity (for binary packages) once these packages

Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-21 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Chris Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We'd need perhaps three different m68k varieties (two more than now), one more Sparc, one more alpha, no more powerpc IIUC, no more arm, one more mips, one more HPPA (or two?), no more ia64 or s390. So that's nine more varities of 386 to consider,

Re: Ask yourself some questions

2002-11-21 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 12:19:13PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: Andrew Suffield [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 11:54:43PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Humour does not have to be at the expense of other

Re: Bug#170069: ITP: grunt -- Secure remote execution via UUCP or e-mail using GPG

2002-11-21 Thread John Goerzen
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 08:36:37PM +0100, Alexander Neumann wrote: John Goerzen wrote: GRUNT is a tool to let you execute commands remotely, offline. It will also let you copy files to a remote machine. How did you solve the problem of re-sending such mails? Say, Joe Evil Cracker is

Re: gpg error at developer.php after the fire

2002-11-21 Thread Rene Engelhard
HI Thorsten, Thorsten Sauter wrote: Hello, hmm. maybe we misunderstand us :) Uups, yes. The second time I read your message I replied to I see. Misread your sentence. Sorry. Regards, Rene -- .''`. Rene Engelhard -- Debian GNU/Linux Developer : :' : http://www.debian.org |

Re: Ask yourself some questions

2002-11-21 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 02:07:23PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: Well, a likelihood is not a certainly. I, for one, certainly agree with him that kissing girls is a goodness that beats the hell out of card games... Not me! I'd much rather be kissing Johnny Depp. Johnny Depp

Re: [mechanix@debian.org: Bug#169709: idesk: could use a better description]

2002-11-21 Thread Colin Walters
On Thu, 2002-11-21 at 15:56, Thorsten Sauter wrote: Hi, anyone can agree that this is a little bit more clearer? snip Description: Display program shortcuts as icons on desktop With idesk you can define shortcut's for several programs The apostophe is an error. and display these

Re: Another mass bug filing: get rid of xlib6g*

2002-11-21 Thread Josip Rodin
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 02:03:06PM -0800, Daniel Schepler wrote: Binary packages (excluding those in source packages listed above): wmmoonclock, xaw3dg-dev, xcin2.3, xdigger, xdkcal, xgraph, xsol, I'm not sure how you gather that

Re: Another mass bug filing: get rid of xlib6g*

2002-11-21 Thread Daniel Schepler
Josip Rodin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 02:03:06PM -0800, Daniel Schepler wrote: Binary packages (excluding those in source packages listed above): wmmoonclock, xaw3dg-dev, xcin2.3, xdigger, xdkcal, xgraph, xsol,

Re: Another mass bug filing: get rid of xlib6g*

2002-11-21 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 02:03:06PM -0800, Daniel Schepler wrote: As discussed previously, I'll be filing bugs against any source or binary packages which still depend on the obsolete xlib6g* packages. These will be normal severity for now, but will be raised to serious severity (for source

Should pure virtual dependencies be allowed?

2002-11-21 Thread Daniel Schepler
I'm forwarding this message to the list with the permission of the author, since it relates to the recent thread about mass filing of bugs regarding libxaw-dev. ---BeginMessage--- On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 10:27:25PM -0800, Daniel Schepler wrote: Package: acfax Severity: normal This package

Re: Another mass bug filing: get rid of xlib6g*

2002-11-21 Thread Josip Rodin
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 02:31:03PM -0800, Daniel Schepler wrote: Binary packages (excluding those in source packages listed above): wmmoonclock, xaw3dg-dev, xcin2.3, xdigger, xdkcal, xgraph, xsol, I'm not sure how you

Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-21 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 08:36:12AM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 11:51:34AM -0500, Matt Zimmerman wrote: On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 12:06:40AM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: I don't believe that transfer will be CPU bound, but rather network and/or internal bus

Re: Pathological case for Debian packages search page

2002-11-21 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 03:31:52PM -0500, H. S. Teoh [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: This package: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/editors/the.html never shows up when you search for the in http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages I assume it's because the search engine

Re: Pathological case for Debian packages search page

2002-11-21 Thread Josip Rodin
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 06:18:30PM -0500, Daniel Burrows wrote: This package: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/editors/the.html never shows up when you search for the in http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages I assume it's because the search engine ignores common words

Re: Pathological case for Debian packages search page

2002-11-21 Thread Adam Heath
On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, H. S. Teoh wrote: I assume it's because the search engine ignores common words like the :-) Also, because the BTS uses the search engine to link to the package pages, the package link on the BTS page for the will never turn up anything. The BTS uses the search engine?

Re: Bug#170069: ITP: grunt -- Secure remote execution via UUCP or e-mail using GPG

2002-11-21 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le jeu 21/11/2002 à 23:12, John Goerzen a écrit : After verifying the signature on the data, the receiver does some sanity checks. One of the checks is doing an md5sum over the entire file (remember, this includes both the headers and the payload). If it has seen the same md5sum in the last

Re: skip to put some version in testing/sarge

2002-11-21 Thread Atsuhito Kohda
From: Julian Gilbey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: skip to put some version in testing/sarge Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 14:08:31 + tetex-bin 1.0.7+20021025-1 and -2 are a bit buggy so I strongly want them not to be in testing/sarge. And I would like to see only 1.0.7+20021025-3 and later

Re: VNC plans.

2002-11-21 Thread Oliver Xymoron
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 01:49:33PM +0100, Ola Lundqvist wrote: Hello Some people might have notived that I have made some (dramatic?) changes to the vnc packages. The reason is that the upstream development have started again. :) The problem is that I used to have the tightvnc patches

Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-21 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 11:45:55AM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: Craig Dickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: True, but Thomas Bushness was pretty clearly advocating supplying optimized binaries from the repository. Perhaps you missed that implication. There is no such person who has

Re: Pathological case for Debian packages search page

2002-11-21 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 05:43:43PM -0600, Adam Heath wrote: On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, H. S. Teoh wrote: I assume it's because the search engine ignores common words like the :-) Also, because the BTS uses the search engine to link to the package pages, the package link on the BTS page for the

Re: Pathological case for Debian packages search page

2002-11-21 Thread Adam Heath
On Fri, 22 Nov 2002, Colin Watson wrote: On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 05:43:43PM -0600, Adam Heath wrote: On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, H. S. Teoh wrote: I assume it's because the search engine ignores common words like the :-) Also, because the BTS uses the search engine to link to the package

Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-21 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 02:07:00PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: The habits (and I have them too) of thinking that disk space is costly are really old habits that it's time to break. No, it's not. Low end disks are cheap. High end disks still aren't. Bandwidth still isn't. Especially when

Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-21 Thread Craig Sanders
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 12:15:12PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: Craig Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i remember a year or so ago when i complained about this worthless practice i said that it would end up consuming hundreds of megabytes - i was told that was ridiculous, it would

Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-21 Thread Miles Bader
Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, see, now Manoj would say that none at all were funny. What statistical conclusions am I to derive from that? That you're not as funny as you think you are? Still, he is often very funny (and on target), and to be honest, I think he's quite right

Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-21 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 12:01:12PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: Current cost of hard disk is something between $1.00 and $1.50 per gigabyte. it's not just the cost of disk space, it's the cost of bandwidth too - and recurring bandwidth expenses cost a LOT more than disks (once-off capital

Re: debian-installer

2002-11-21 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Michael Cardenas | What we really need is a debian installer web page that has a link to | cvs, the current status, the mailing list, and the current todo list | front and center. I'm planning on adding this to my p.d.o site, but I | haven't had the time yet, as I've been working on udebs for

Re: Why are new package versions depending on libc6 in unstable?

2002-11-21 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Michael Stone | On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 10:26:37AM -0800, Mike Fedyk wrote: | Yes, please use experemental more than it is now. | | Please never use experimental. I much prefer private apt repositories | with discrete units (e.g., an X repository or gnome repository) over | experimental,

Re: debian-installer

2002-11-21 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Tim Dijkstra | I've got a new old box to play with. Naturally I'll have to install | debian on it (was planning to install sarge). I remember some people on | the list asking for debian-installer testers. I would be happy to be | one, but where can I find it? Mostly-fresh images can be found

Re: Why are new package versions depending on libc6 in unstable?

2002-11-21 Thread Mike Fedyk
On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 02:29:48AM +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: * Michael Stone | On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 10:26:37AM -0800, Mike Fedyk wrote: | Yes, please use experemental more than it is now. | | Please never use experimental. I much prefer private apt repositories | with discrete

Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-21 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 02:07:00PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: The habits (and I have them too) of thinking that disk space is costly are really old habits that it's time to break. No, it's not. Low end disks are cheap. High end disks still

Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-21 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Craig Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: which I will assume to be correct. how generous of you. you could have quibbled about every line of the directory listing i provided, but you restrained yourself - for that small mercy, i will be forever in your debt. I wasn't being generous, just

Re: Proposal - non-free software removal

2002-11-21 Thread Atsuhito Kohda
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NOKUBI Takatsugu) Subject: Re: Proposal - non-free software removal Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 21:25:01 JST In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: xpdf-japanese cmap-adobe-japan1 cmap-adobe-japan2 cmap-adobe-korea1 cmap-adobe-gb1

Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-21 Thread Scott Dier
It also makes it 5 times as hard to build a modules package for our stock kernels. And uses an equivilant of extra space there of course. If you punch out a kernel module package its not so bad if all the headers files are installed. I wrote up a e1000 kernel package before it showed up here

Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-21 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 05:48:47PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 02:07:00PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: The habits (and I have them too) of thinking that disk space is costly are really old habits that it's time to

Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-21 Thread Craig Sanders
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 07:27:06PM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote: On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 12:01:12PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: Current cost of hard disk is something between $1.00 and $1.50 per gigabyte. it's not just the cost of disk space, it's the cost of bandwidth too - and

Re: Ask yourself some questions

2002-11-21 Thread Brian Nelson
Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 02:07:23PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: Well, a likelihood is not a certainly. I, for one, certainly agree with him that kissing girls is a goodness that beats the hell out of card games... Not me! I'd much

Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-21 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Branden == Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Branden On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 12:18:20PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote: This is, what, the fourth or fifth? post from Manoj in reply to one of your non-free-debate-related joke. One or two were funny, sure, but I think we've all lost the

Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-21 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Matt == Matt Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Matt On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 12:48:51AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Emile == Emile van Bergen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Emile Leaving me wondering how the collection of selfish genes, known as the Emile individual Manoj, was driven to

Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-21 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Miles == Miles Bader [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Miles Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, see, now Manoj would say that none at all were funny. What statistical conclusions am I to derive from that? That you're not as funny as you think you are? Miles Still, he is often very

Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-21 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There's how much does disk space cost?, and then there's we have x disk space available currently, and no budget for expansion right now; we only use y GB of it; how much can we mirror with the free disk space as a service to the community? This is

Re: Ask yourself some questions

2002-11-21 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Branden == Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Branden Well, a likelihood is not a certainly. I, for one, Branden certainly agree with him that kissing girls is a goodness Branden that beats the hell out of card games... Being happily married, kissing girl(s) plural does not

Re: Ask yourself some questions

2002-11-21 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Andrew == Andrew Suffield [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Andrew On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 11:54:43PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Humour does not have to be at the expense of other people. Andrew Where's the evidence? (Heinlein would disagree with you) ok. Even though evidence is hard

Re: Ask yourself some questions

2002-11-21 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Being happily married, kissing girl(s) plural does not enter the realm of goodness by any stretch of the imagination. A good game of bridge, on the other hand ... So it's agreed! A game of bridge, me, Branden, Manoj, and some unnamed

Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-21 Thread Jim Lynch
On Wed, 20 Nov 2002 22:23:17 +0200 Mikko Moilanen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 02:47:16PM -0500, Matt Zimmerman wrote: Are you suggesting that you would prefer the latest software, without the integration that Debian provides? If so, you can get this easily by

Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-21 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 08:37:19PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Matt == Matt Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 12:48:51AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: and if I can change social norms of conduct so that I would nto be hurt in the future?

Re: Test package apt repositories, and Release files.

2002-11-21 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Karl == Karl M Hegbloom [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Karl Just a reminder... Will folks who place test packages in apt Karl repositories PLEASE put Release files in there along with Packages Karl and Sources, so that we can use the man apt_preferences functionality Karl to Pin those test

Re: Test package apt repositories, and Release files.

2002-11-21 Thread Anthony Towns
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 09:35:51PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Karl == Karl M Hegbloom [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Karl Just a reminder... Will folks who place test packages in apt Karl repositories PLEASE put Release files in there along with Packages Karl and Sources, so that we can use

Re: Why are new package versions depending on libc6 in unstable?

2002-11-21 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 05:40:39PM -0800, Mike Fedyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: Nice, (btw, this is documented in man apt_preferences) but how do you know there is a new version available in experemental from apt-cache? apt-cache show or showpkg will show this.. Daniel --

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