Re: KDEE3 question

2002-12-05 Thread Daniel Stone
[Excuse the dodgy quality, I'm trying to construct a reply from DWN]. On Fri, 29 Nov 2002 15:03:05 +0100, Michael Meskes scrawled: but since gcc 2.95 is still standard in Debian I guess the switch to 3.2 will take much longer than the release of KDE 3.1 which is due next week. And the

Re: Planned mass-filing of bugs: java packages only depending on java-common

2002-12-05 Thread Stephen Zander
Stefan == Stefan Gybas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Stefan Currently the following packages in testing provide Stefan java1-runtime: gij-3.0, gij-3.2, orp-classpath and Stefan sablevm. All of them include (or depend on) a Java virtual Stefan machine so if I add this dependecy to the

Re: Porting Xconfigurator to Debian!

2002-12-05 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 4 Dec 2002, sean finney wrote: i agree. perhaps the X task should include these packages, and then Definitely. the xserver-xfree86 package can check for these, and if they exist, before I doubt this would help much. If I'm not missleaded the configure script is called before the

Re: description writing guide

2002-12-05 Thread Richard Braakman
On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 08:05:43PM -0500, Colin Walters wrote: I think this is hard to without switching to a format which allows us to include more metadata (like XML). So we can explicitly use stuff like ul and li for lists, instead of relying on ASCII renderings. That way we can safely

Re: Planned mass-filing of bugs: java packages only depending on java-common

2002-12-05 Thread Ola Lundqvist
On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 10:43:55PM -0800, Stephen Zander wrote: Stefan == Stefan Gybas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Stefan Currently the following packages in testing provide Stefan java1-runtime: gij-3.0, gij-3.2, orp-classpath and Stefan sablevm. All of them include (or depend on)

Oracle installer?

2002-12-05 Thread Karl M. Hegbloom
Has anyone created an Oracle 9i installer?

Re: Oracle installer?

2002-12-05 Thread Thorsten Sauter
Hi, On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 11:48:59PM -0800, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote: Has anyone created an Oracle 9i installer? what do you mean with installer? Oracle itself contains an graphical jave based installer for linux. I have created a package for oracle 8i (should work with 9i), but it doesn't

Re: Bug#171693: ITP: wondershaper -- a script to set up QoS, mainly for home users

2002-12-05 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Anthony DeRobertis [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.12.05.0611 +0100]: On Wed, 2002-12-04 at 18:06, martin f krafft wrote: the problem is that we also need the kernel patch. 2.4.20 includes HTB3 i saw. but that's a problem because it won't run on every system therefore. it's kernel

Re: Porting Xconfigurator to Debian!

2002-12-05 Thread sean finney
On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 07:58:58AM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote: On Wed, 4 Dec 2002, sean finney wrote: the xserver-xfree86 package can check for these, and if they exist, before I doubt this would help much. If I'm not missleaded the configure script is called before the files of packages are

Re: Porting Xconfigurator to Debian!

2002-12-05 Thread Tomas Pospisek's Mailing Lists
On Thu, 5 Dec 2002, Michael Banck wrote: Maybe what we need are people who read package descriptions prior to install Debian picking it's users instead of users picking Debian. *t -- --- Tomas Pospisek SourcePole -

Re: description writing guide

2002-12-05 Thread Michael Bramer
On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 12:55:50PM -0500, Colin Walters wrote: I think the package descriptions are a very important product of this project. They're going to be one of the first things people see when they use Debian, and their quality directly reflects on the quality of Debian. I've been

Re: Why DDTP? shouldn't it be DPTP? (was Re: spanish translations in DDTP now)

2002-12-05 Thread Michael Bramer
On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 11:29:47PM +0100, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: I'm curious as to why was DDTP (Debian Documentation Translation Project) ^ Description was chosen for the project in helping

Re: why was there no bug filed?

2002-12-05 Thread Othmar Pasteka
hi, On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 12:04:21AM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.12.04.1353 +0100]: I'd be extremely surprised if the explanation wasn't something along the lines of we didn't get round to it or something more important came up. Humans,

Re: Porting Xconfigurator to Debian!

2002-12-05 Thread Othmar Pasteka
hi, On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 12:22:05AM +0100, Michael Banck wrote: On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 11:13:18PM +, Scott James Remnant wrote: Dunno how you feel about this, but dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 works quite fine here. It does kinda assume you know what you want your config

Problem with kdenetwork build for unstable

2002-12-05 Thread Martin Schulze
Hi, I have problems fixing kdenetwork for unstable. With gcc 3 get/setenv aren't detected through C but through C++ which doesn't work. That's a bug in automake. It should be fixed with a patch in the following source: http://master.debian.org/~joey/NMU/kdenetwork_2.2.2-14.21.diff.gz

Problem with tetex-bin potato security build

2002-12-05 Thread Martin Schulze
Hi there, I'm lost with a problem concerning the build of tetex-bin on potato/alpha. This is a request for help. Could someone take a look at this problem and perhaps explain it to me with a fix? Both escher and lully have a potato chroot you can use. Source files are here:

Re: Porting Xconfigurator to Debian!

2002-12-05 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le jeu 05/12/2002 à 09:05, sean finney a écrit : I doubt this would help much. If I'm not missleaded the configure script is called before the files of packages are installed. Thus I'm not really sure whether there is access to the tools which are needed if they are installed all at the

Re: KDEE3 question

2002-12-05 Thread Michael Meskes
On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 05:17:19PM +1100, Daniel Stone wrote: First thing: KDE 3.1 will not be released this week. Expect a public announcement on this soon, but until then, I can say no more. Sorry, but it's out of my control. I know what you're talking about as I just talked to Ralf.

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Re: Porting Xconfigurator to Debian!

2002-12-05 Thread Amir Bukhari
After all I have readed in reply of my Post, I have understand, that I can begin Porting this program to debian, and I see if it could be integreted to debian installation process ;-) .

Re: Porting Xconfigurator to Debian!

2002-12-05 Thread David Goodenough
On Wednesday 04 December 2002 23:50, Michael Banck wrote: On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 06:42:43PM -0500, H. S. Teoh wrote: Install discover, read-edid and mdetect before you install X, and you're set. Now explain that to my mother! :p [snip] Maybe what we want is a meta-package

Re: KDEE3 question

2002-12-05 Thread Daniel Stone
On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 10:02:34AM +0100, Michael Meskes scrawled: On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 05:17:19PM +1100, Daniel Stone wrote: Secondly, ftpmasters have to add overrides for new packages, in case you didn't realize. That takes time: their time adding them, and our time waiting. We're

Re: Porting Xconfigurator to Debian!

2002-12-05 Thread Michael Ablassmeier
On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 09:44:08AM +0100, Othmar Pasteka wrote: it's not userfriendly? that's the whole point of it actually. and X based GUIs are way nicer than text based GUIs. and it's also not userfriendly to go and say go read the package descriptions. Shure its userfriendly, but does

Re: Porting Xconfigurator to Debian!

2002-12-05 Thread Amir Bukhari
Amir Bukhari wrote: Michael Ablassmeier wrote: If i have to decide between nice graphical installer, and a nice Dialog Setup, i will prefer the Dialg Setup ! but Xconfigurator has also Dialog setup. I have compiled it and it has found my Graphic Card and my Monitor frequency, but I should

Re: Planned mass-filing of bugs: java packages only depending on java-common

2002-12-05 Thread Stephen Zander
Ola == Ola Lundqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ola This is false. If the package provides the core classes it Ola should provide java1-runtime but NOT java-virtual-machine. If Ola it provides the virtual-machine it should provide Ola java-virtual-machine. If this is not clear

Re: KDEE3 question

2002-12-05 Thread Michael Meskes
On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 08:28:20PM +1100, Daniel Stone wrote: Nope - the 3.0.x packages just were not ready to go into sid. Any package where the upgrade strategy is to purge the old and install the new just doesn't work. 3.1.x will be the first packages where upgrades from 2.2.x are clean.

Re: Planned mass-filing of bugs: java packages only depending on java-common

2002-12-05 Thread Stephen Zander
Ola == Ola Lundqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ola This is false. If the package provides the core classes it Ola should provide java1-runtime but NOT java-virtual-machine. If Ola it provides the virtual-machine it should provide Ola java-virtual-machine. If this is not clear

Re: Planned mass-filing of bugs: java packages only depending on java-common

2002-12-05 Thread Simon Richter
Stephen, Ola, we go round and round on this. Having java1-runtime only mean the java.* classes doesn't add anything. Packages shouldn't have to depend on two virtual packages; java1-rutime should be a superset of the functionality of java-virual-machine not a disjoint set. I think the

kernel-image-2.4.19-i386-udeb-2.4.19

2002-12-05 Thread Brian May
Hello, It does not seem possible to build this source package using pbuilder. The problem is that it build-depends on kernel-image-2.4.19-386, but this package cannot be installed non-interactively. Should I: 1. File a bug report againt kernel-image-2.4.19-386 saying it needs to be

Re: Last known forwarding address for Jared Johnson?

2002-12-05 Thread Aaron Lehmann
On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 03:10:09AM +1100, Andrew Lau wrote: Hey everyone, Can anyone else shed light on fate of Jared Solomon Johnson: I talked to him on IRC for the first time in 6 months about a month ago. He said he had moved and has not had Internet access for the past 3 months.

Re: Planned mass-filing of bugs: java packages only depending on java-common

2002-12-05 Thread Stephen Zander
Simon == Simon Richter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Simon I think the autobuilder argument is valid. Autobuilders Simon need the classes, but not the VM. If at all, you can make Simon the VMs depend on the core classes, so people can depend on Simon the core classes for compiling and

Re: Planned mass-filing of bugs: java packages only depending on java-common

2002-12-05 Thread Stephen Zander
Ok, I should stop reading mail at 3am... Simon == Simon Richter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Simon I think the autobuilder argument is valid. Autobuilders Simon need the classes, but not the VM. If at all, you can make Simon the VMs depend on the core classes, so people can depend on

Re: Planned mass-filing of bugs: java packages only depending on java-common

2002-12-05 Thread Stefan Gybas
Stephen Zander wrote: Depending on the core classes does not provide javac which is what the autobuilders actually require. The build dependencies for Java packages could be for example: jikes, classpath, lib*-java (all other required Java packages) If all lib*-java packages in main depend on

Re: Porting Xconfigurator to Debian!

2002-12-05 Thread Michael Banck
On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 09:44:08AM +0100, Othmar Pasteka wrote: Install discover, read-edid and mdetect before you install X, and you're set. it's not userfriendly? that's the whole point of it actually. and X based GUIs are way nicer than text based GUIs. Didn't we have graphical debconf

Re: Porting Xconfigurator to Debian!

2002-12-05 Thread Michael Banck
On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 10:14:18AM +0100, Amir Bukhari wrote: After all I have readed in reply of my Post, I have understand, that I can begin Porting this program to debian, and I see if it could be integreted to debian installation process ;-) . I don't want to discourage you from porting

Re: description writing guide

2002-12-05 Thread Michael Piefel
Am 4.12.02 um 15:15:53 schrieb David B Harris: If variable-width fonts are used, then line breaks shouldn't be preserved. If they're not going to be preserved, there needs to be a very specific set of rules as to how lines are joined. These already exist in code, actually; I believe

Re: description writing guide

2002-12-05 Thread Michael Piefel
Am 4.12.02 um 14:38:07 schrieb Joey Hess: angband: Sauron [...] most powerful of his servants Nice script, Joey, but perhaps you should have looked at the description for yourself. :-) Cheers, Mike -- |=| Michael Piefel |=| Humboldt-Universität zu Berlin |=| Tel. (+49 30) 2093 3831

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Re: why was there no bug filed?

2002-12-05 Thread Mark Brown
On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 12:04:21AM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: you, oh my sponsor, advocate, and mentor. i thought that the bugs were automatically filed. wouldn't that be rather easy to accomplish? It would be easy to file bugs when builds fail but it would be hard to do this

Re: why was there no bug filed?

2002-12-05 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Mark Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.12.05.1228 +0100]: It would be easy to file bugs when builds fail but it would be hard to do this constructively. For example, there are basic things like checking that the bug isn't already filed which would be hard to automate. You need to

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Re: Porting Xconfigurator to Debian!

2002-12-05 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Scott James Remnant | These aren't included in the X window system task... Given that's | how most users (most notably the non-technical who would benefit | from them) install X - should these be added to that? This is already taken care of for the next revision of b-f, AIUI. -- Tollef Fog

Re: description writing guide

2002-12-05 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 07:19:38PM +, Scott James Remnant wrote: In correct English grammar and typography the space after a full stop (period in Merkin) is supposed to be a wider space then that between words and after commas and suchlike. There is no such thing as correct typography,

Re: description writing guide

2002-12-05 Thread Michael Banck
On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 12:18:08PM +0100, Michael Piefel wrote: Am 4.12.02 um 14:38:07 schrieb Joey Hess: angband: Sauron [...] most powerful of his servants Nice script, Joey, but perhaps you should have looked at the description for yourself. :-) Heh, I succesfully managed to :q! when I

And why DDTP does not use webwml? Re: Why DDTP? shouldn't it be DPTP? (was Re: spanish translations in DDTP now)

2002-12-05 Thread Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo
One question I have is why DDTP does not use webwml. This is now part of the Debian project (as it's under ddtp.debian.org), but it's completely incoherent with Debian www style, and it also is the part of the Debian web with less translations! I hope you have this also in your

Re: Porting Xconfigurator to Debian!

2002-12-05 Thread Matthew McGuire
On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 12:04:00PM +0100, Michael Banck wrote: On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 10:14:18AM +0100, Amir Bukhari wrote: After all I have readed in reply of my Post, I have understand, that I can begin Porting this program to debian, and I see if it could be integreted to debian

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Re: Bug#171693: ITP: wondershaper -- a script to set up QoS, mainly for home users

2002-12-05 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 09:03:27AM +0100, martin f krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: also sprach Anthony DeRobertis [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.12.05.0611 +0100]: On Wed, 2002-12-04 at 18:06, martin f krafft wrote: the problem is that we also need the kernel patch. 2.4.20 includes

Re: Porting Xconfigurator to Debian!

2002-12-05 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 09:20:30AM +, David Goodenough [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: Not only will most people only read the top level package description, i.e. x-window-system, but if they are using apt-get the suggested pacakged are not even offered as an option. Perhaps apt-get

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Smarter preconfiguration (Re: Porting Xconfigurator to Debian!)

2002-12-05 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 10:00:21AM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: The configure script is usually launched before the Pre-Depends are even installed. There is currently no way to ensure a package is installed at configuration time. A non-essential package, anyway. Essential is probably

Re: Mozilla Calendar?

2002-12-05 Thread Sami Haahtinen
On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 01:37:13PM -0500, David B Harris wrote: In the past the only thing that stopped me from doing a build of my own from the sources was that debian missed libical.. and now that there appears to be libical-dev, i can't see any reason why not package it.. Regardless,

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2002-12-05 Thread Bases de mails
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Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-12-05 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Instead of the developers learning to treat certain versions as separate packages, the developers taught Portage how to handle and maintain several versions of the same package though the use of SLOTs. It goes on to explain further with an example, basically they have an extra field

Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-12-05 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Very nice. Does anyone know how to get apt to give locally compiled packages higher priority than official packages? I've been playing with the release pinnings, but haven't gotten it to work. Also, what apps do you think would make good benchmark cases for showing how much is

Re: description writing guide

2002-12-05 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 02:09:50PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: Ari Pollak wrote: I think the real issue here isn't so much actual package descriptions, but the ITPs. Most package descriptions I've seen have been pretty accurate, and tend to change a lot between the time of the ITP and

Re: description writing guide

2002-12-05 Thread Joey Hess
David B Harris wrote: If variable-width fonts are used, then line breaks shouldn't be preserved. If they're not going to be preserved, there needs to be a very specific set of rules as to how lines are joined. These already exist in code, actually; I believe packages.debian.org joins lines. I

Re: description writing guide

2002-12-05 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 07:59:20PM -0500, Colin Walters wrote: [snip] Ooh, goody :) Does this mean #45943 will finally be fixed? Well, we obviously can't force anyone to do anything; but I hope that having the reasoning more clearly laid out will motivate people... [snip] Does submitting

Ooops, my mistake (was Re: Why DDTP? shouldn't it be DPTP? (was Re: spanish translations in DDTP now))

2002-12-05 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 07:00:12PM -0500, Daniel Burrows wrote: On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 11:29:47PM +0100, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: I'm curious as to why was DDTP (Debian Documentation Translation Project) It wasn't, the expansion is Debian

Bug#171875: ITP: libclass-trigger-perl -- A mix-in class to add / call hooks that get called at points you specify

2002-12-05 Thread Stephen Quinney
Package: wnpp Version: N/A; reported 2002-12-05 Severity: wishlist * Package name: libclass-trigger-perl Version : 0.06 Upstream Author : Tatsuhiko Miyagawa [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://search.cpan.org/CPAN/authors/id/M/MI/MIYAGAWA/Class-Trigger-0.06.tar.gz *

Re: And why DDTP does not use webwml? Re: Why DDTP? shouldn't it be DPTP? (was Re: spanish translations in DDTP now)

2002-12-05 Thread Michael Bramer
On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 01:23:33PM +0100, Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo wrote: One question I have is why DDTP does not use webwml. This is now part of the Debian project (as it's under ddtp.debian.org), but it's completely incoherent with Debian www style, and it also is the part of the

Build problems on mips/mipsel: Assembler messages: Branch out of range

2002-12-05 Thread Xavier Roche
I encountered several compiling problems on s390 and mips due to compiler capacity error, and apparently disabling optimizations on s390 did the trick. Unfortunately, it did not the trick on mips mipsel archs: gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -DINET6 -DPREFIX=\/usr\ -DSYSCONFDIR=\/etc\

Intent to NMU: htget

2002-12-05 Thread H. S. Teoh
Hi Troy, It appears that your Debian package, htget, has not been updated for a long time, and there are some packaging issues with it. I have prepared an NMU of this package (from version 0.94 -- I was unable to find 0.93 and I needed a pristine upstream source to fix bug #44302). This NMU

Re: description writing guide

2002-12-05 Thread Joey Hess
Matt Zimmerman wrote: I'd be willing to invest some time in co-maintenance of a package description override list. I've had a pretty good amount of response to my description bug reports. -- see shy jo pgpkDFlipLeZ5.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: description writing guide

2002-12-05 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 12:55:50PM -0500, Colin Walters wrote: Hello, I think the package descriptions are a very important product of this project. They're going to be one of the first things people see when they use Debian, and their quality directly reflects on the quality of Debian.

Re: description writing guide

2002-12-05 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 01:58:43PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: Matt Zimmerman wrote: I'd be willing to invest some time in co-maintenance of a package description override list. I've had a pretty good amount of response to my description bug reports. But do your bug reports keep up with the

Re: description writing guide

2002-12-05 Thread David B Harris
On Thu, 5 Dec 2002 12:13:57 +0100 Michael Piefel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Line breaks already aren't preserved, and there already exist a very specific set of rules for that. Look into your documentation, and have a look at dselect. I already have example applications which don't preserve them

Re: description writing guide

2002-12-05 Thread David B Harris
On Thu, 5 Dec 2002 20:59:09 +0100 Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: a good search interface in our package interface UIs (good search != search by words). ... as opposed to searching based on the contents of people's minds? :) pgphxF5io44ke.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Build problems on mips/mipsel: Assembler messages: Branch out of range

2002-12-05 Thread Ralf Treinen
Salut Xavier, On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 08:01:22PM +0100, Xavier Roche wrote: Unfortunately, it did not the trick on mips mipsel archs: /tmp/ccqDRzIw.s: Assembler messages: /tmp/ccqDRzIw.s:3315: Error: Branch out of range I'm having the same problem with my texmacs package. See the mail by

Re: kernel-image-2.4.19-i386-udeb-2.4.19

2002-12-05 Thread Herbert Xu
Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My preferred option is 3. However, by itself it is still not sufficient as it kernel-image-2.4.19-386 fails to install when making the initrd image (which ironically isn't even required). I ended up hacking a simple /etc/fstab file to work around this.

Re: Porting Xconfigurator to Debian!

2002-12-05 Thread Otto Wyss
Install discover, read-edid and mdetect before you install X, and you're set. mdetect hopefully doesn't choke on an USB-mouse anymore! O. Wyss

Re: description writing guide

2002-12-05 Thread tomas pospisek
On Thu, 5 Dec 2002, Matt Zimmerman wrote: On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 01:58:43PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: Matt Zimmerman wrote: I'd be willing to invest some time in co-maintenance of a package description override list. I've had a pretty good amount of response to my description bug

Re: location of UnicodeData.txt

2002-12-05 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Bernhard R. Link [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * Jim Penny [EMAIL PROTECTED] [021203 17:35]: OK, now, supposing that the unicode license is found to be non-DSFG free, and hence that UnicodeData.txt is non-free. Suppose a program implements either unicode collation, regular expressions,

Re: description writing guide

2002-12-05 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Steve Greenland [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: However, this is all on *output* (display, whatever). The input text should have just a single space. The text has to be reformatted to fit the screen (display area) anyway (even on a terminal), and it's the job of the reformatter/text

Re: Porting Xconfigurator to Debian!

2002-12-05 Thread Joey Hess
Tollef Fog Heen wrote: * Scott James Remnant | These aren't included in the X window system task... Given that's | how most users (most notably the non-technical who would benefit | from them) install X - should these be added to that? This is already taken care of for the next revision

Re: location of UnicodeData.txt

2002-12-05 Thread John Hasler
Thomas Bushnel writes: A program can use the algorithms specified by Unicode without any copying of Unicode, and can thus be entirely free. What is UnicodeData.txt for? Do programs actually use it in some way, or is it just a reference for programmers, like the description of a protocol? --

Re: description writing guide

2002-12-05 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 10:03:32PM +0100, tomas pospisek [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: On Thu, 5 Dec 2002, Matt Zimmerman wrote: But do your bug reports keep up with the flow of new packages into the archive? That is, is the overall description quality increasing or decreasing?

Re: description writing guide

2002-12-05 Thread Steve Greenland
On 05-Dec-02, 16:49 (CST), Thomas Bushnell, BSG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is not possible for an automated renderer to figure out where sentence boundaries are without some kind of help, and a mere period is not sufficient help. So, a good convention to establish might be that the string .

Re: description writing guide

2002-12-05 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 03:21:24PM -0500, David B Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: On Thu, 5 Dec 2002 12:13:57 +0100 Michael Piefel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Line breaks already aren't preserved, and there already exist a very specific set of rules for that. Look into your

Re: description writing guide

2002-12-05 Thread Richard Braakman
On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 02:49:12PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: It is not possible for an automated renderer to figure out where sentence boundaries are without some kind of help, and a mere period is not sufficient help. So, a good convention to establish might be that the string .

Re: kernel-image-2.4.19-i386-udeb-2.4.19

2002-12-05 Thread Brian May
On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 07:36:45AM +1100, Herbert Xu wrote: My preferred option is 3. However, by itself it is still not sufficient as it kernel-image-2.4.19-386 fails to install when making the initrd image (which ironically isn't even required). I ended up hacking a simple /etc/fstab

Re: description writing guide

2002-12-05 Thread Craig Dickson
Steve Greenland wrote: (Of course, if this is the worst problem we have with Debian package descriptions, I say flip a coin and forget about it.) I have a better idea -- just forget it altogether. It doesn't need to be standardized in Debian; it certainly isn't standardized in the publishing

Re: description writing guide

2002-12-05 Thread John Hasler
David B Harris writes: Could you point me at the documentation in question? Debian Packaging Manual --- Ian Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Revised: David A. Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: kernel-image-2.4.19-i386-udeb-2.4.19

2002-12-05 Thread Herbert Xu
On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 11:05:05AM +1100, Brian May wrote: Make sure your mkinitrd.conf has ROOT set to nothing and it will work. So anotherwords I should file a bug against pbuilder? Yes. -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmVHI~} [EMAIL

Re: Problem with tetex-bin potato security build

2002-12-05 Thread Atsuhito Kohda
From: Martin Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Problem with tetex-bin potato security build Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 09:42:15 +0100 I'm lost with a problem concerning the build of tetex-bin on potato/alpha. This is a request for help. Could someone take a look at this problem and perhaps

Re: /tmp/root ???

2002-12-05 Thread Atsuhito Kohda
From: Oliver Kurth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: /tmp/root ??? Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 11:20:41 +0100 On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 12:40:27AM -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: Try this on your machine. It might be a clue. Or it might not turn up anything at all. But it is worth a try. cd

Re: location of UnicodeData.txt

2002-12-05 Thread starner
John Hasler writes: Thomas Bushnel writes: A program can use the algorithms specified by Unicode without any copying of Unicode, and can thus be entirely free. What is UnicodeData.txt for? Do programs actually use it in some way, or is it just a reference for programmers, like the

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Re: location of UnicodeData.txt

2002-12-05 Thread John Hasler
starner writes: If you run most algorithms specified by Unicode, like normalization, capitalization or the bidirectional algorithm, you do it with the use of the data from UnicodeData.txt, whether you copied it from there or copied it from the Unicode book. That's what I thought. Therefor

Re: description writing guide

2002-12-05 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 02:49:12PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: Steve Greenland [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: However, this is all on *output* (display, whatever). The input text should have just a single space. The text has to be reformatted to fit the screen (display area) anyway (even

Re: description writing guide

2002-12-05 Thread Colin Walters
On Wed, 2002-12-04 at 14:38, Joey Hess wrote: Your emphasis on audiences is very good, but I am leery of the treatment of package descriptions as advertisements. A package description that reads like an in-your-face advertisement can suck at being a package description. You're right in some

ITP: fontilus --

2002-12-05 Thread Colin Walters
Package: wnpp Version: N/A; reported 2002-12-05 Severity: wishlist * Package name: fontilus Version : 0.1 Upstream Author : James Henstridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/fontilus/ * License : GPL Description : graphical

Re: description writing guide

2002-12-05 Thread Miles Bader
Steve Greenland [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In standard typography, it is to have extra space after a period ending a sentence. For fixed-width fonts, this often shows up as two spaces, as is fairly ugly. Of course, that's simply an opinion, and depends a lot on exactly _which_ fixed fonts you

Bug#171935: ITP: mozilla-locale-da -- Mozilla danish language package

2002-12-05 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2002-12-06 Severity: wishlist * Package name: mozilla-locale-da Version : 1.21 Upstream Author : Robert Kaiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] and Henrik Lynggaard [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL :

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Re: description writing guide

2002-12-05 Thread Colin Walters
On Wed, 2002-12-04 at 20:26, Simon Richter wrote: Colin, http://people.debian.org/~walters/descriptions.html Well, I'm not sure there should be a template -- people will use it (and thus try to squeeze information into it). I usually tell my sponsees that a description should answer the

Re: description writing guide

2002-12-05 Thread Colin Walters
On Thu, 2002-12-05 at 14:59, Javier Fernndez-Sanguino Pea wrote: Not only users, software might use them too. We currently don't have a good search interface in our package interface UIs (good search != search by words). I tried to make (quite a long time ago and it's pretty much an

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