Bilancio tutto sommato positivo per la presenza Debian al Meeting 2003.
Molti i presenti e parecchi hanno resistito comunque fino al pomeriggio.
Luca De Vitis ed io ci siamo divisi la presentazione, dato che Marco
alla fine ha deciso di soprassedere - anche in virtu' dei ventilati
scioperi
On Sun, Apr 13, 2003 at 19:44:35 -0500, Thomas Bliesener wrote:
Do you consider the recommendations of the W3 Consortium as binding or
optional for the Debian project?
I'd say having our documentation conform to W3C standards and
recommendations is desirable, but not a binding requirement. If
Arnd Bergmann writes:
with the packages I have uploaded to http://www.arndb.de/debian/.
[...]
There is a lot that can be done before the hardware is available,
so if there is enough interest, we should start a coordinated
effort soon.
yes, please submit bug reports to glibc, binutils and gcc
* David Nusinow
| On Sun, Apr 13, 2003 at 11:11:27PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
| * Colin Walters
|
| | Anthony Towns has mentioned a few times that he thinks sarge will use
| | Linux 2.6, which comes with most of the goodies like preemption already
| | included. We'll probably just
Package: wnpp
Version: unavailable; reported 2003-04-14
Severity: wishlist
* Package name: bacula
Version : 1.29
Upstream Author : Kern Sibbald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* URL : http://www.bacula.org/
* License : GPL
Description : Network backup system with
On Mon, 2003-04-14 at 00:39, David Nusinow wrote:
On Sun, Apr 13, 2003 at 11:11:27PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
* Colin Walters
| Anthony Towns has mentioned a few times that he thinks sarge will use
| Linux 2.6, which comes with most of the goodies like preemption already
|
On Mon, Apr 14, 2003 at 07:38:00AM +0200, J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) wrote:
(Personally, I'd vote against a proposal to make it mandatory. We have more
than enough release-critical issues at the moment - cleaning up
documentation to conform completely to W3C standards and recommendations is
probably
On Mon, Apr 14, 2003 at 07:55:36AM +0100, Alastair McKinstry wrote:
On Mon, 2003-04-14 at 00:39, David Nusinow wrote:
On Sun, Apr 13, 2003 at 11:11:27PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
* Colin Walters
| Anthony Towns has mentioned a few times that he thinks sarge will use
|
Bob Proulx wrote:
Just minor searching through the archive turned these up with relevent
discussion.
These posts, as your reply in debian-testing, concern packages that are not
Valid Candidates.
My question concerns perfectly working packages that are suitable for testing,
yet are never
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Matijs van Zuijlen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 02:34:32PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote:
On Fri, Apr 11, 2003 at 10:57:34PM +0200, Lars Bahner wrote:
pptp-linux
[...]
Additionally, pptp-linux seems to be the
On Mon, Apr 14, 2003 at 09:43:28AM +0200, Björn Stenberg wrote:
Bob Proulx wrote:
Just minor searching through the archive turned these up with relevent
discussion.
These posts, as your reply in debian-testing, concern packages that are not
Valid Candidates.
My question concerns
* Matthias Urlichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-04-11 14:34]:
Personally, I do not like all those -mysql, -pgsql, -whatever packages.
Whatever happened to the idea of using a common database access library
like iODBC? It's reasonably small, Not A Burden if you happen to not
require any database
On Mon, 14 Apr 2003, Andrew Suffield wrote:
If you don't understand why you are on this list, use the maintainer
address query on http://bugs.debian.org/ and look for old RC bugs. If
you still don't understand, mail me and I'll tell you.
You just should add the maintainer address to this list.
Bjorn Stenberg wrote:
Bob Proulx wrote:
Just minor searching through the archive turned these up with relevent
discussion.
These posts, as your reply in debian-testing, concern packages that are not
Valid Candidates.
But they did concern how testing operates. Insight into the design of
On Sun, 13 Apr 2003 22:34:39 +0300,
Jarno Elonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
I'm now getting a redefinition error and couldn't easily figure it
out:
In file included from conf_analysis_yy.h:5,
from conf_analysis.yy:7:
/usr/include/FlexLexer.h:112:
Proposal: Implementation steps for dynamic resolver configuration
Assuming that it is impossible to update networking daemons and
DNS caches simultaneously with providing the infrastructure for
dynamic resolver configuration, we need a plan for doing it in
stages.
Each of the following steps
On Mon, Apr 14, 2003 at 11:21:48AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
On Mon, 14 Apr 2003, Andrew Suffield wrote:
If you don't understand why you are on this list, use the maintainer
address query on http://bugs.debian.org/ and look for old RC bugs. If
you still don't understand, mail me and
On Mon, Apr 14, 2003 at 03:14:21AM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote:
The DD who updated the 3.0 version into unstable should work to make
sure it enters testing. Until it does they should not upload a less
stable version. They should drive the process and not let the process
drive them.
but often it
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
* Package name: mangband
Version : 0.7.2a
Upstream Author : Robert Seifer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* URL : http://www.mangband.org/
* License : see the file COPYING in the source tarball:
non-free as in for
I don't know what happened, but I am not happy. Your shit is showing up as
the homepage of Rimfirecentral.com. Whatever caused this needs to be
resolved.
On Mon, 7 Apr 2003, Steve Kemp wrote:
Mail me offlist if you'd like me to start hosting this package, etc.
I just keep this on list just to announce that some more images are available
now in version 0.2 of wallpapers-at package at
http://people.debian.org/~tille/debian-background/
I
Sigh...
On Mon, Apr 14, 2003 at 04:26:33AM -0700, Denton, Robert wrote:
I don't know what happened, but I am not happy. Your shit is showing up as
the homepage of Rimfirecentral.com. Whatever caused this needs to be
resolved.
Well, I can't reach that server at all, but if you mean something
I'd like to congratulate Michael Alan Dorman for the most stupid and
annoying use of debconf. The bunch of questions asked on the libnet-perl
installation are just annoying people installing it for what it is : a
dependency for packages needing networking functionality for perl.
Please, kick out
En réponse à Josselin Mouette [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Maybe it should be recalled to everyone that debconf is not a place
for
asking users a bunch of stupid crap (how many % of our users know what
is SNMP ?), but a place to configure the few things that cannot be
autodected. Thank you.
And _you_
Josselin,
As I have publically stated before, I will happily give up this
package to someone who is obviously motivated to improve it
Are you that person?
Mike
Is there some equivalent to defoma for other distributions?
How would you describe the defoma data that applications read? Is it just
font configuration files or is there more?
I want to setup appropriate SE Linux policy for applications which defoma
files and want to not have it Debian
On Monday 14 April 2003 14:30, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Maybe it should be recalled to everyone that debconf is not a place for
asking users a bunch of stupid crap (how many % of our users know what
is SNMP ?), but a place to configure the few things that cannot be
autodected. Thank you.
I
hi,
i don't really know where that gcc-3.2 is coming from. as you can see
curl doesn't depend on it explicitly.
anyway debian has migrated to gcc 3.2 as default compiler and i build
curl with gcc 3.2 since a couple of releases ago. maybe it is required
someway. i'm CC debian-devel@, maybe some
Michael Alan Dorman a écrit :
Josselin,
As I have publically stated before, I will happily give up this
package to someone who is obviously motivated to improve it
Are you that person?
After re-reading my message, I would like to apologize for having been
unnecessarily rude, being
Andreas Tille wrote:
mpsql -- A graphical frontend for PostgreSQL [#89957]
* Orphaned 755 days ago
It would be great if someone would step in here. Graphical frontends to
PostgreSQL are quite rare.
It's non-free. However, Erik Tews fixed the package so it has proper
build dependencies
On Mon, Apr 14, 2003 at 02:13:32PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
I'd like to congratulate Michael Alan Dorman for the most stupid and
annoying use of debconf. The bunch of questions asked on the libnet-perl
installation are just annoying people installing it for what it is : a
dependency for
On Monday 14 April 2003 09:44, Andrew Suffield wrote:
This is a sorted (worst offenders first) list of maintainers who have
excessive numbers of old RC bugs open against their packages. Bugs
...
Josef Spillner
Your script is buggy, fix it :-)
Are sponsored NMUs allowed in case of RC bugs
On Monday 14 April 2003 14:13, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Please, kick out all those questions. They have nothing to do here and
should be replaced by either configuration files or autodetection. There
have been 4 bug reports for more than 6 months asking for this and you
haven't even replied to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dear Debian Devs,
Is there any kind of Hardware Compatibility List for Debian(Woody)?
Boot a Knoppix CD. If it detects and runs your hardware, it is supported.
If it doesn't, it isn't.
I know there is the Hardware-Howto but this document is (too) old.
orphaned,
On Mon, Apr 14, 2003 at 03:56:48PM +0200, Domenico Andreoli wrote:
i don't really know where that gcc-3.2 is coming from. as you can see
curl doesn't depend on it explicitly.
You'll find it does on arm and probably one or two other architectures,
but in particular:
Package: libcurl2
I've volunteered to help build a database of KDE advocates and am
starting the design. A previous kde-promo thread mentioned the
Debian LDAP gateway as a possible model to follow.
I would be interested in any feedback the Debian developers have on
this system. It seems to have a lot of nice
I'd like to see a place where the status of all the various places where
potential Sarge release issues are tracked. I feel that
http://www.debian.org/devel/testing was missing things, and I didn't see
anything else like this. Following the debian-devel convention, I created
something myself.
I
Hi,
On Mon, 14 Apr 2003 13:56:48 +, Domenico Andreoli wrote:
i don't really know where that gcc-3.2 is coming from. as you can see curl
doesn't depend on it explicitly.
If it is built with gcc-3.2 and it needs a symbol from libgcc-3.2, then
the resulting package will depend on gcc-3.2.
I
$ ldd `which curl`
libcurl.so.2 = /usr/lib/libcurl.so.2 (0x27ae1000)
libssl.so.0.9.7 = /usr/lib/i686/cmov/libssl.so.0.9.7 (0x27b06000)
libcrypto.so.0.9.7 = /usr/lib/i686/cmov/libcrypto.so.0.9.7 (0x27b35000)
libdl.so.2 = /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x27c25000)
libz.so.1
On Mon, Apr 14, 2003 at 03:56:48PM +0200, Domenico Andreoli wrote:
i don't really know where that gcc-3.2 is coming from. as you can see
curl doesn't depend on it explicitly.
anyway debian has migrated to gcc 3.2 as default compiler and i build
curl with gcc 3.2 since a couple of releases
Hi,
On Mon, 14 Apr 2003 08:42:07 +, Gerfried Fuchs wrote:
* Matthias Urlichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-04-11 14:34]:
Whatever happened to the idea of using a common database access library
like iODBC? It's reasonably small, Not A Burden if you happen to not
require any database lookup
Hi,
attached is a small patch that allows apt-check-sigs to also check
absolute dists (i.e. ending in a '/') like:
deb http://people.debian.org/~foo/woody-backports bar/
(in case http://people.debian.org/~foo/woody-backports/bar/ contains a
signed release file with the md5sum of the Packages file
Hi,
Domenico Andreoli wrote:
$ ldd `which curl`
[ no libgcc or similar ]
Duh. You're right. I admit to not being able to think of any other good
(i.e. not-a-bug) reason why this dependency should be there, then. Since
one of my packages has the same problem, I'll go and check why
On Mon, Apr 14, 2003 at 05:17:33PM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote:
Duh. You're right. I admit to not being able to think of any other good
(i.e. not-a-bug) reason why this dependency should be there, then. Since
one of my packages has the same problem, I'll go and check why
dpkg-shlibdeps
On Mon, Apr 14, 2003 at 03:56:48PM +0200, Domenico Andreoli wrote:
i don't really know where that gcc-3.2 is coming from. as you can see
curl doesn't depend on it explicitly.
libcurl2 and libcurl2-dbg depend on libgcc1 on arm. libgcc1 supplies
certain parts of the C runtime. There isn't really
Josselin Mouette [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
After re-reading my message, I would like to apologize for having been
unnecessarily rude, being already tense for other reasons.
Apology accepted.
I don't want to handle libnet-perl, but I can try to provide a patch
for that specific issue if you
With two Debian conferences ([1] [2]) taking place this year, I wonder
which topics other developers would like to see covered by the talks
and/or workshops held within.
For the Debian day [1] I'm maintaining a list anyway, so I would be
glad to be flooded with ideas to add and for which we could
On Mon, Apr 14, 2003 at 04:20:45PM +0200, Josef Spillner wrote:
On Monday 14 April 2003 09:44, Andrew Suffield wrote:
This is a sorted (worst offenders first) list of maintainers who have
excessive numbers of old RC bugs open against their packages. Bugs
...
Josef Spillner
Your script
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is there any kind of Hardware Compatibility List for Debian(Woody)?
On Mon, Apr 14, 2003 at 04:19:59PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote:
Boot a Knoppix CD. If it detects and runs your hardware, it is supported.
If it doesn't, it isn't.
[...]
Wasn't there a hardware
Hi,
I'll go and check why
dpkg-shlibdeps (what else??) thinks so.
Well, it doesn't. Not on i386 and ppc, anyway. As aj wrote, though,
apparently it does on arm. :-/
--
Matthias Urlichs|noris network AG|http://smurf.noris.de/
--
We learn from history that we learn nothing
On Mon, Apr 14, 2003 at 09:45:29AM -0500, Drew Scott Daniels wrote:
I'd like to see a place where the status of all the various places where
potential Sarge release issues are tracked. I feel that
http://www.debian.org/devel/testing was missing things, and I didn't see
anything else like this.
There's a problem somewhere in postgresql-dump which is called by the
post-installation script, but I can't find it. I would welcome help
from anyone who can take a look and find where the bug is.
Problem: under some circumstances, /etc/postgresql/pg_hba.conf is
overwritten by a one line file
Mark Bucciarelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've volunteered to help build a database of KDE advocates and am
starting the design. A previous kde-promo thread mentioned the
Debian LDAP gateway as a possible model to follow.
I would be interested in any feedback the Debian developers have on
Hi,
Mark Bucciarelli wrote:
(2) do people really update their records? (For example, what
percentage of entries were updated last year? What percentage of
entries have not been updated at all for two years? three years?)
Well, personal information is not that often updated when it
On Monday 14 April 2003 02:36 am, Thomas Hood wrote:
Proposal: Implementation steps for dynamic resolver configuration
[snip]
* New resolver package includes /etc/init.d/resolver which
generates /run/resolv.conf from /run/resolver/interface/*
and does a run-parts on
On Mon, 14 Apr 2003, Martin Schulze wrote:
Andreas Tille wrote:
mpsql -- A graphical frontend for PostgreSQL [#89957]
* Orphaned 755 days ago
It would be great if someone would step in here. Graphical frontends to
PostgreSQL are quite rare.
It's non-free. However, Erik Tews fixed
Years ago, NeXT modified GCC and the rest of the GNU tools to allow
them to produce multi-architecture binaries, so that a single binary
executable could run on both 68k and i386 platforms. They also had a
tool that could strip out hunks for unwanted architectures.
Maybe that code has decayed,
Andreas Tille [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Mon, 14 Apr 2003, Martin Schulze wrote:
Andreas Tille wrote:
mpsql -- A graphical frontend for PostgreSQL [#89957]
* Orphaned 755 days ago
It would be great if someone would step in here. Graphical frontends to
PostgreSQL are quite rare.
There is a nice graphical front-end to Postgresql, in the non-US
section :
gk:~$ apt-cache show pgaccess| grep -A 100 Description
Description: Tk/Tcl interface to PostgreSQL
A Tk/Tcl program for X that provides a front-end to PostgreSQL. It can be
used to generate and store queries, views,
On Mon, 2003-04-14 at 20:08, Keegan Quinn wrote:
If we're going to have /run/resolver, why not use /run/resolver/resolv.conf?
Fine with me. Any objections?
--
Thomas Hood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Figures, there was a bug inherited from the original script that could
(semi-randomly) assign packages to the old maintainer if they were
adopted since potato. I have also filtered out packages which have
been removed from unstable but are still present in older suites. That
knocks the following
On Mon, Apr 14, 2003 at 01:44:40PM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote:
Sven Luther wrote:
BTW, do you know if uploading a package to testing-update will be
considered by the testing scripts if the unstable version is a new
version and/or too buggy and such ? This would be a neat way to
rebuilding a
Couldn't this be done more easily just by having the debian packages be
multi-arch bundles where an executable for each platform is included?
Why is it necessary to pack them all into the same elf file and then
strip that later?
It's not really a good idea to modify the files produced by a binary
Matthias Urlichs writes:
Maybe it's time to force gcc-3.2 into testing..?
No, it should go in after binutils gets into testing.
On Mon, Apr 14, 2003 at 10:29:05PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
Yes, but it is better than having our packages hold back by libvorbis
and the 105 or so packages that will be breaken by its inclusion in
testing, many of them have big RC bugs and such, and will not be
includable in testing for a
On Mon, Apr 14, 2003 at 09:22:45PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote:
And introduces the people who adopted the offending packages:
Martin Butterweck ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Or not; I edited him out manually (pingus, which is orphaned and being
adopted very slowly) the first time around and forgot to
On Mon, Apr 14, 2003 at 02:00:33PM -0700, Elladan wrote:
Couldn't this be done more easily just by having the debian packages be
multi-arch bundles where an executable for each platform is included?
And that would solve/help what exactly? *I* don't have a s/390 at home
to produce such packages.
Anthony Towns wrote:
You'll find it does on arm and probably one or two other architectures,
but in particular:
Package: libcurl2
Architecture: arm
Version: 7.10.4-1
Depends: libc6 (= 2.3.1-1), libgcc1 (= 1:3.2.3-0pre6), ...
Sorry for being a pain, but how are these
On Fri, Apr 11, 2003 at 11:11:17AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
On Thu, Apr 10, 2003 at 10:56:34PM +0200, Martin Pitt wrote:
lintian says:
W: planets: binary-or-shlib-defines-rpath ./usr/bin/planets
/usr/lib:/usr/X11R6/lib
N:
N: The binary or shared library defines the `RPATH'.
On Tue, 15 Apr 2003, Björn Stenberg wrote:
Package: libcurl2
Architecture: arm
Version: 7.10.4-1
Depends: libc6 (= 2.3.1-1), libgcc1 (= 1:3.2.3-0pre6), ...
Sorry for being a pain, but how are these dependencies assigned?
Through the shlibdeps system. Probably, the
On Thu, Apr 10, 2003 at 07:27:42PM -0400, Jeremy Jackson wrote:
Overall I think it is wonderful to see support for read-only root being
worked on.
On Wed, 2003-04-09 at 15:41, Matthew Garrett wrote:
Jeremy Jackson wrote:
(doing this with bind mounts)
2.2 kernels are out though.
On Tue, 2003-04-15 at 01:44, Martin Schulze wrote:
With two Debian conferences ([1] [2]) taking place this year, I wonder
which topics other developers would like to see covered by the talks
and/or workshops held within.
Although it hasn't yet been announced, there's also the Debian Mini-Conf
[ I host the xshipwars upstream mailing lists... ]
On Fri, Apr 11, 2003 at 11:32:04AM -0500, Adam Majer wrote:
On Fri, Apr 11, 2003 at 10:27:06AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
On Fri, Apr 11, 2003 at 09:06:29AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
On Fri, 4 Apr 2003, BugScan reporter wrote:
I demand that Michael Banck may or may not have written...
On Mon, Apr 14, 2003 at 02:00:33PM -0700, Elladan wrote:
Couldn't this be done more easily just by having the debian packages be
multi-arch bundles where an executable for each platform is included?
And that would solve/help what
John H. Robinson, IV [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
all the footnote says is that imake Does The Right Thing, which is why
it is exempted.
See, now I read it as imake doesn't quite do the right thing, really,
but it's imake, so we'll let it slide - fixing it everywhere is
officially deemed not
Andrew == Andrew Suffield [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
cadaver
Andrew You get ten of these to the penny.
Actually, cadaver shouldn't be on that list. The current maintainer
is continuing to support it and doesn't want to give it up unless
someone else ports it to GnuTLS (I asked).
--
On Wed, Apr 09, 2003 at 08:30:42PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
On Wed, Apr 09, 2003 at 05:59:26PM +0200, Michael Banck wrote:
On Wed, Apr 09, 2003 at 04:40:31PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
depth, i cannot help all that much about it, and libvorbis is a valid
candidate, but his installation
Colin == Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Colin Assuming you're [EMAIL PROTECTED], you have
Colin four open release-critical bugs, none of which have had any
Colin response, and three of which have been open since October.
Nope, that's a screwup on my part. The bugs belong to
Matthias Klose [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Matthias Urlichs writes:
Maybe it's time to force gcc-3.2 into testing..?
No, it should go in after binutils gets into testing.
What has happened to Chris Chimelis? He seems to be missing since early
February, and the last 6 uploads of binutils
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