Re: packaging + kernel patches

2003-06-25 Thread Mattia Dongili
On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 00:58:15 +0200 Mattia Dongili [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] oltre a questo mi e' sorto un'altro problema: il demone fa uso di 2 librerie dinamiche. La debian-policy mi pare di aver capito che imponga di pacchettizzare separatamente le librerie, ma e' veramente eccessivo

Re: Bug#198158: architecture i386 isn't i386 anymore

2003-06-25 Thread GOTO Masanori
At Tue, 24 Jun 2003 11:32:17 -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 01:47:55PM +0900, GOTO Masanori wrote: At 21 Jun 2003 00:27:18 +0200, Mathieu Roy wrote: RedHat provide glibc for i386, i586 and i686. Why doesn't Debian provide several packages for i*86 when the

Re: Please don't misuse the debian/changelog to close bugs!

2003-06-25 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
Herbert Xu wrote: Gerfried Fuchs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * New upstream release (closes: #123) which includes: - tmpfile race condition fix (closes: #124) - manual page included (closes: #125) The thing is: It helps the users and the person who reported the bug to see what bug

Re: Bug#198682: ITP: kernel-patch-2.4-low-latency -- Reduces the latency of the Linux kernel

2003-06-25 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Aurelien Jarno It's already packaged: [...] | * Package name: kernel-patch-2.4-low-latency | Upstream Author : Andrew Morton [EMAIL PROTECTED] | * URL : http://www.zip.com.au/~akpm/linux/schedlat.html | * License : GPL | Description : Reduces the latency of

Re: Bug#198158: architecture i386 isn't i386 anymore

2003-06-25 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* GOTO Masanori | - NPTL/TLS support. NPTL currently supports i486 and later because | pthread_spin_trylock uses cmpxchgl instruction (well, it's not | difficult to support i386, but imagine pthread on i386 with the | max clock (I recall it was 20MHz?) speed and memory...) 33MHz,

Re: Packages: an average 66321 bytes per line of description

2003-06-25 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Daniel Burrows wrote: On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 04:15:29PM -0500, Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: Not all of it, but you can't object to duplicating a single sentence saying what it is. When the sentence in question is the one that goes in the short description, and already

Re: no freshness dating inside Packages.gz

2003-06-25 Thread Andrew Pollock
On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 03:14:26PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: It is unfortunate, that there is no easy access to the changelog, I know of, but all other infos can be seen on the package tracking system: I guess that you've never heard of http://changelogs.credativ.org/ Any reason

Re: maildirmake

2003-06-25 Thread Andreas Metzler
Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 08:19:35AM +0200, Andreas Metzler wrote: You could start by telling us what maildirmake is supposed to do. Why do we need it? Any program I know of which can handle Maildir is not only capable of storing messages in Maildir folders but

Re: kernel 2.5.73+, fakeroot, debuild - a small problem

2003-06-25 Thread Andreas Metzler
Marek Habersack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Running debuild as normal user under the 2.5.73+ kernel results in fakeroot actually setting the file ownership to root (or any other uid/gid for that matter). [...] Either there is a big misunderstanding or a big bug in 2.5.73+. Are you saying that

Re: Please don't misuse the debian/changelog to close bugs!

2003-06-25 Thread Andreas Metzler
Herbert Xu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gerfried Fuchs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: During some of the discussions lately on debian-devel another usage of the changelog has risen interest: * New upstream release (closes: #123, #124, #125) This has also raised some discussions. The thing is

Re: maildirmake

2003-06-25 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 02:34:39AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Debian-Developers, first, many thanks all of you for your great work. As I am not a pro, I am very glad that most of Debian works out-of-the-box. But, I was looking around and wondering about that I couldn't find any

Re: Bug #193271: galeon: should register in /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser

2003-06-25 Thread Mark Howard
Hi, I've been unable to find documentation about how we're supposed to choose a priority for alternatives. It seems like every web browser maintainer likes their browser the most, so wants it to be the highest. I'm CC'ing debian-devel in the hope that somebody will be able to point me in the

Re: Bug#198682: ITP: kernel-patch-2.4-low-latency -- Reduces the latency of the Linux kernel

2003-06-25 Thread Aurelien Jarno
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 07:43:34AM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: It's already packaged: [...] : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ apt-cache show kernel-patch-lowlatency-2.4 Package: kernel-patch-lowlatency-2.4 Oops ! Sorry, closing the bug... I searched with apt-cache for low-latency and it didn't give

Re: Bug#198158: architecture i386 isn't i386 anymore

2003-06-25 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 07:47:42AM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: * GOTO Masanori | - NPTL/TLS support. NPTL currently supports i486 and later because | pthread_spin_trylock uses cmpxchgl instruction (well, it's not | difficult to support i386, but imagine pthread on i386 with the

Bug#198158: architecture i386 isn't i386 anymore

2003-06-25 Thread Branden Robinson
On Fri, Jun 20, 2003 at 09:51:07AM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: The solution I would favour would be: - drop the i386 support - keep the i386 architecture name - let dpkg-architecture output the new configuration string (i.e. i486-linux) - if anybody wants to start the mini-i386

Re: [mass bug filing?] Short descriptions being used as long descriptions and other policy violations

2003-06-25 Thread Branden Robinson
On Fri, Jun 20, 2003 at 05:53:09PM +0200, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: I was wondering, should I make a mass filing of bugs for those packages who fail to produce a proper description? Go for it. I'm tired of people who care about our users so little that they will not properly

Re: ITP: libtext-charwidth-perl, libtext-wrapi18n-perl

2003-06-25 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 11:18:56AM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: License: perl Be careful of the tough new perl licensing policy of the ftp master. :-/ It's not the archive admins' fault that some Perl geeks have a reckless approach to licensing. -- G. Branden Robinson|

Re: Packages: an average 66321 bytes per line of description

2003-06-25 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 03:17:27PM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote: I was hoping large package developers would write longer descriptions. Read mine sometime. (You'd be one of the first to do so!) -- G. Branden Robinson| You are not angry with people when Debian GNU/Linux

Re: Packages: an average 66321 bytes per line of description

2003-06-25 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 09:12:06AM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote: * Dan Jacobson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I was hoping large package developers would write longer descriptions. Too bad. The two are not, should not, and should never be related. I wouldn't say they're strictly decorrelated.

Re: ITP: libtext-charwidth-perl, libtext-wrapi18n-perl

2003-06-25 Thread Tomohiro KUBOTA
Hi, Joey Hess wrote: s/Get/get/; s/softwares/software/; s/width of characters (and strings)? on terminal/ display width of characters and strings on the terminal/x; (or at least, s/on terminal/on the terminal/) s/in C/from libc/; (etc, etc) I see. I will prepare new packages.

Re: Bug#198665: ITP: pmk -- The pmk project aims to be an alternative to GNU/autoconf (configure scripts).

2003-06-25 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 02:44:17PM -0500, Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis wrote: On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 09:30:31PM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote: [...] Description : The pmk project aims to be an alternative to GNU/autoconf (configure scripts). Description field is inappropriate,

Re: Bug#198665: ITP: pmk -- The pmk project aims to be an alternative to GNU/autoconf (configure scripts).

2003-06-25 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 05:09:24PM -0500, Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis wrote: On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 10:59:19PM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote: It's not quite a substitute, as it won't reuse autoconf's configs etc. How about A tool for configuring software source similar to GNU Autoconf?

Re: Old bugs related to translated debconf templates

2003-06-25 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 12:04:29AM +0200, Denis Barbier wrote: 135965 (27 Feb 2002) xfree86v3 Branden Robinson I've been asking for someone to co-maintain this package. I'm still asking. -- G. Branden Robinson| Reality is what refuses to go away Debian GNU/Linux

Re: Bug#198158: architecture i386 isn't i386 anymore

2003-06-25 Thread Colin Walters
On Wed, 2003-06-25 at 03:52, Branden Robinson wrote: I believe it would be a mistake to kill off support for the 80386 chip. Well, we're limited by what we can sanely support. After all, we don't support running Debian on a 286. The 386 is really in the same class nowadays, in my opinion

Re: Bug#198158: architecture i386 isn't i386 anymore

2003-06-25 Thread David Goodenough
On Wednesday 25 June 2003 08:40, Branden Robinson wrote: On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 07:47:42AM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: * GOTO Masanori | - NPTL/TLS support. NPTL currently supports i486 and later because | pthread_spin_trylock uses cmpxchgl instruction (well, it's not |

Re: Bug#198665: ITP: pmk -- The pmk project aims to be an alternative to GNU/autoconf (configure scripts).

2003-06-25 Thread Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 03:18:28AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: * lose the article Why? * do not capitalize the beginning of the description unless a proper noun, proper adjective, abbreviation, or acronym requires it Why? ciao, -- Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis | Elegant

Retirement, etc

2003-06-25 Thread Joseph Carter
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 With work, school, and taking part to some extent in my local community, I have had virtually no free time to devote to Debian for many months now. Having just received my approval of my application to transfer to the University of Oregon, I know that

Re: Bug#198665: ITP: pmk -- The pmk project aims to be an alternative to GNU/autoconf (configure scripts).

2003-06-25 Thread Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 10:20:06AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: I though the limit was 60 chars, as stated in one of the debian documents. Friendly, Beside the fact that is was to hurry in sending that mail (synopsis was short enough), as i can read from Policy (I've 3.5.10), it must be less

Re: kernel 2.5.73+, fakeroot, debuild - a small problem

2003-06-25 Thread Marek Habersack
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 10:57:36PM -0400, Aaron M. Ucko scribbled: Marek Habersack [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 2. Modify fakeroot to check the kernel version, the type of fs on which it is currently working and have it issue a sysctl to enable restricted_chown. It looks better

Re: Please don't misuse the debian/changelog to close bugs!

2003-06-25 Thread Herbert Xu
John H. Robinson, IV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: in that case you can do this: * New upstream release and then use [EMAIL PROTECTED] to close the bugs, and everyone has a wonderful day. Really? For the two groups of people affected by this change: 1. BTS readers -- No change. The

Re: kernel 2.5.73+, fakeroot, debuild - a small problem

2003-06-25 Thread Marek Habersack
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 08:42:03AM +0200, Andreas Metzler scribbled: Marek Habersack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Running debuild as normal user under the 2.5.73+ kernel results in fakeroot actually setting the file ownership to root (or any other uid/gid for that matter). [...] Either

Re: Bug#198665: ITP: pmk -- The pmk project aims to be an alternative to GNU/autoconf (configure scripts).

2003-06-25 Thread Marek Habersack
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 04:03:26AM -0500, Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis scribbled: On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 03:18:28AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: * lose the article Why? * do not capitalize the beginning of the description unless a proper noun, proper adjective, abbreviation, or

Re: Bug#198665: ITP: pmk -- The pmk project aims to be an alternative to GNU/autoconf (configure scripts).

2003-06-25 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 04:14:05AM -0500, Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis wrote: On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 10:20:06AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: I though the limit was 60 chars, as stated in one of the debian documents. Friendly, Beside the fact that is was to hurry in sending that mail

Re: favicon resource

2003-06-25 Thread Mathieu Roy
Henning Moll [EMAIL PROTECTED] a tapoté : Hi! I was just looking for a 'open use' debian favicon. But i can't find it on http://www.debian.org/logos/index.en.html Is it ok to use the resource from http://www.debian.org/favicon.ico ? Shouldn't it also be published on the logo page? A

Re: Bug#198158: architecture i386 isn't i386 anymore

2003-06-25 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 04:55:56AM -0400, Colin Walters wrote: On Wed, 2003-06-25 at 03:52, Branden Robinson wrote: I believe it would be a mistake to kill off support for the 80386 chip. Well, we're limited by what we can sanely support. After all, we don't support running Debian on a

Re: Bug#198158: architecture i386 isn't i386 anymore

2003-06-25 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Colin Walters | On Wed, 2003-06-25 at 03:52, Branden Robinson wrote: | | I believe it would be a mistake to kill off support for the 80386 chip. | | Well, we're limited by what we can sanely support. After all, we don't | support running Debian on a 286. The 386 is really in the same

Re: [mass bug filing?] Short descriptions being used as long descriptions and other policy violations

2003-06-25 Thread Benj. Mako Hill
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 10:49:13PM +0200, Thomas Viehmann wrote: My argument was based on a matrix lintian error tags - maintainers. There's lintian tags practically owned by maintainers. That's what I meant with patterns. In those cases, pointing things out directly will help more. In some

Re: Bug#198158: architecture i386 isn't i386 anymore

2003-06-25 Thread Emile van Bergen
Hi, On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 01:07:12PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: * Colin Walters | On Wed, 2003-06-25 at 03:52, Branden Robinson wrote: | | I believe it would be a mistake to kill off support for the 80386 chip. | | Well, we're limited by what we can sanely support. After all,

Bug#198158: architecture i386 isn't i386 anymore

2003-06-25 Thread Herbert Xu
Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If this indeed feasible, then this is the solution that appeals most to me personally. It certainly is feasible. In fact, such a patch has been in existence for at least a year. Also, Herbert Xu, the 80386 kernel-flavor maintainer, would have to be

Re: Bug#198158: architecture i386 isn't i386 anymore

2003-06-25 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 09:57:57AM +0100, David Goodenough wrote: and remember that many embedded processors still use 486 and 586 based chips, and some 386. Lossing 386 might be acceptable in the embedded market (many 386 based systems have too little memory to run Debian) but loosing

Re: Please don't misuse the debian/changelog to close bugs!

2003-06-25 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, 25 Jun 2003, Herbert Xu wrote: It is in fact detrimental for a third group, people who are trying to extract the version in which a given bug was fixed. Aah, but if the bug wasn't fixed due to a change in the package, then it is misleading to say that the bug was somehow fixed in that

Re: kernel 2.5.73+, fakeroot, debuild - a small problem

2003-06-25 Thread Herbert Xu
Marek Habersack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Running debuild as normal user under the 2.5.73+ kernel results in fakeroot actually setting the file ownership to root (or any other uid/gid for that matter). The result is that the parts which don't run under fakeroot - Why is fakeroot calling the

Bug#198158: architecture i386 isn't i386 anymore

2003-06-25 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, 25 Jun 2003, Branden Robinson wrote: Hmm... I'm not sure about this as the last time I used assembler was in the times of real mode DOS, but there is a yet another option: we can patch the kernel so when an invalid opcode occurs, whatever instruction was at CS:EIP gets emulated

Re: kernel 2.5.73+, fakeroot, debuild - a small problem

2003-06-25 Thread Cédric Delfosse
Le mer 25/06/2003 à 00:34, Marek Habersack a écrit : Hey list, Running debuild as normal user under the 2.5.73+ kernel results in fakeroot actually setting the file ownership to root (or any other uid/gid for that matter). The result is that the parts which don't run under fakeroot -

Re: maildirmake

2003-06-25 Thread Josip Rodin
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 09:36:17AM +1000, Brian May wrote: You could start by telling us what maildirmake is supposed to do. Why do we need it? Any program I know of which can handle Maildir is not only capable of storing messages in Maildir folders but also of generating them. This

Bug#198158: architecture i386 isn't i386 anymore

2003-06-25 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 02:52:31AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: The drawbacks: * Someone actually has to write this kernel patch. http://miaif.lip6.fr/~tarreau/linux-patches/486emulation/

Re: Developer Accessible Hurd Machine

2003-06-25 Thread Mario Lang
Michael Banck [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anyway, you can still try to install the Hurd yourself on a free partition, for example using the crosshurd package. Most people have an i386, so it's just a matter of perhaps freeing some disk-space and reading the docs. If it doesn't work with your

Re: Bug#198158: architecture i386 isn't i386 anymore

2003-06-25 Thread David Goodenough
On Wednesday 25 June 2003 12:00, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 09:57:57AM +0100, David Goodenough wrote: and remember that many embedded processors still use 486 and 586 based chips, and some 386. Lossing 386 might be acceptable in the embedded market (many 386

Re: kernel 2.5.73+, fakeroot, debuild - a small problem

2003-06-25 Thread Marek Habersack
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 09:30:32PM +1000, Herbert Xu scribbled: Marek Habersack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Running debuild as normal user under the 2.5.73+ kernel results in fakeroot actually setting the file ownership to root (or any other uid/gid for that matter). The result is that the

Re: Bug#198665: ITP: pmk -- The pmk project aims to be an alternative to GNU/autoconf (configure scripts).

2003-06-25 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 04:03:26AM -0500, Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis wrote: On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 03:18:28AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: * lose the article Why? Because http://www.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/ch-best-pkging-practices.en.html#s-bpp-pkg-synopsis states that

Re: Proposal: removing libc5, altgcc and all their old-days dependencies

2003-06-25 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sun, Jun 22, 2003 at 10:49:54AM +0200, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: On Sun, Jun 22, 2003 at 10:23:01AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: Tell me, you seriously think that there is a libc5 program still around that uses DRI ? Hell, libc5 was abandoned well before DRI even existed. the only libc5

Re: Developer Accessible Hurd Machine

2003-06-25 Thread Michael Banck
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 02:46:24PM +0200, Mario Lang wrote: If there is no permanent buildd running, I think most developers will not be able to identify hurd specific problems, even if they were very minor. Well, there is a buildd, it's just not running at the moment (and it dies frequently).

ITP: libtext-charwidth-perl

2003-06-25 Thread Tomohiro KUBOTA
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist libtext-charwidthp-perl: get display widths of characters on the terminal downloaded from: CPAN (http://www.cpan.org/modules/by-module/Text/Text-CharWidth-version.tar.gz) License: dual license of Artistic and GPL1. --- Tomohiro KUBOTA [EMAIL PROTECTED]

ITP: libtext-wrapi18n-perl

2003-06-25 Thread Tomohiro KUBOTA
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist libtext-wrapi18n-perl: internationalized substitute of Text::Wrap Downloaded from: CPAN ( http://www.cpan.org/modules/by-module/Text/Text-WrapI18n-version.tar.gz ) License: dual license of Artistic and GPL1. --- Tomohiro KUBOTA [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Bug#198665: ITP: pmk -- The pmk project aims to be an alternative to GNU/autoconf (configure scripts).

2003-06-25 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 04:03:26AM -0500, Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis wrote: On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 03:18:28AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: * lose the article Why? Because Branden is agent sent by Russians to demoralize our English grammarians, and removing article advances his agenda.

Re: Bug#197049: ITP: conglomerate -- an XML editor for GNOME

2003-06-25 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, Jun 15, 2003 at 08:14:57AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Sat, 14 Jun 2003 09:33:02 +0200, Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Fri, Jun 13, 2003 at 04:54:23PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Fri, 13 Jun 2003 16:49:15 +0200, Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Thu,

Re: Bug#198602: ITP: debbackup -- Backup and restore Debian specifics (package status, conffiles)

2003-06-25 Thread Adam Heath
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003, Drew Scott Daniels wrote: I have also been thinking about creating a complimentary program that would help cleanup the system by finding unused packages, seldom used packages, cruft, unnessisary files... As with debbackup, there are things to do some of the functons

Bug#198158: architecture i386 isn't i386 anymore

2003-06-25 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 01:42:04PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: As the person who originally submitted this idea, I'm probably the one who is morally obliged to write it, even though: The patch has been already written: http://lwn.net/Articles/8634/ I'm sure theere's a better link, but

Bug#198771: ITP: gnome-network -- Network tools suite for the GNOME desktop

2003-06-25 Thread Andrew Lau
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-06-26 Severity: wishlist * Package name: gnome-network Version : 1.99.0 Upstream Author : German Poo-Caamano Rodrigo Moya * URL : ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/gnome-network/ * License :

Open questions of package descriptions (Was: Bug#198665: ITP: pmk...)

2003-06-25 Thread Jarno Elonen
* lose the article Why? * do not capitalize the beginning of the description unless a proper noun, proper adjective, abbreviation, or acronym requires it Why? Argh, we really should decide these two points now and for good. Just today I received through DDTP a description

Bug#198775: ITP: libgnomecups -- GNOME library for CUPS interaction

2003-06-25 Thread Ross Burton
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-06-25 Severity: wishlist * Package name: libgnomecups Version : 0.1.4 Upstream Author : Dave Camp [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://www.ximian.com/ * License : LPGL Description : GNOME library for CUPS

Bug#198158: architecture i386 isn't i386 anymore

2003-06-25 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 08:51:12PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: It certainly is feasible. In fact, such a patch has been in existence for at least a year. Cool. I have no problems with integrating such a patch. I will look at it right now. Excellent. Thanks! -- G. Branden Robinson

Re: Bug#198158: architecture i386 isn't i386 anymore

2003-06-25 Thread Colin Walters
On Wed, 2003-06-25 at 06:05, Colin Watson wrote: I disagree. Unlike 286, we've got the kernel, the libc, and *almost* everything else. The only thing missing is part of the C++ ABI, which as described can be handled by a small kernel patch (at least this has been claimed and nobody has

Re: Bug#198665: ITP: pmk -- The pmk project aims to be an alternative to GNU/autoconf (configure scripts).

2003-06-25 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 04:03:26AM -0500, Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis wrote: On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 03:18:28AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: * lose the article Why? * it wastes space that is precious in the short description * it's implicit * see the archives of this list * do not

subarchitectures? (was: Bug#198158: architecture i386 isn't i386 anymore)

2003-06-25 Thread Andreas Barth
* Colin Watson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030625 12:35]: The problem is that we really don't have sensible support for subarchitectures at all. This makes the job of creating such a specialized port much greater than just I have some hardware and need to make a small tweak to support it; you need to

Application files in $HOME

2003-06-25 Thread Daniel Ruoso
Hi, I had an idea and I would like to hear you about it. Recently I had a problem of exceeded quota in my home directory, so I went cleaning it, and I saw many and many files and directories with configurations for applications that I've runned in the past, but that packages were purged from my

Re: Please don't misuse the debian/changelog to close bugs!

2003-06-25 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 07:34:23PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: 2. debian/changelog readers -- No change. They have lost a slight bit information that is irrelevant for the purpose of documenting Debian changes. I am one of these readers. I do this. A lot. Every day. And I am telling you

Re: subarchitectures? (was: Bug#198158: architecture i386 isn't i386 anymore)

2003-06-25 Thread Michael Banck
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 06:50:54PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: What does oppose us to make subarchitectures quite more easy than now? (That would also be useful for the AMD Opteron and the like that could use normal i386-code, but can profit from optimized code.) Nothing opposes it, we're just

Re: Please don't misuse the debian/changelog to close bugs!

2003-06-25 Thread Brian Nelson
Herbert Xu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Gerfried Fuchs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: During some of the discussions lately on debian-devel another usage of the changelog has risen interest: * New upstream release (closes: #123, #124, #125) This has also raised some discussions. The thing is

Re: kernel 2.5.73+, fakeroot, debuild - a small problem

2003-06-25 Thread Torsten Landschoff
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 09:30:32PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: Running debuild as normal user under the 2.5.73+ kernel results in fakeroot actually setting the file ownership to root (or any other uid/gid for that matter). The result is that the parts which don't run under fakeroot - Why

Re: Bug#198158: architecture i386 isn't i386 anymore

2003-06-25 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Colin Watson dijo [Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 11:05:56AM +0100]: We should foist the job of supporting i386 onto some specialized Debian port for it. The problem is that we really don't have sensible support for subarchitectures at all. This makes the job of creating such a specialized port

Re: Bug#198158: architecture i386 isn't i386 anymore

2003-06-25 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 01:26:38PM +0900, GOTO Masanori wrote: Performance improvement is _not_ my primary intention.At least it needs to support libc6-686: - LinuxThreads floating stack support. It's ready for i686 and later. - NPTL/TLS support. NPTL currently supports i486 and

Re: kernel 2.5.73+, fakeroot, debuild - a small problem

2003-06-25 Thread Richard Braakman
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 09:30:32PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: Why is fakeroot calling the real chown(2)? I think it's to be able to report errors like ENOENT. You can turn it off by setting FAKEROOTDONTTRYCHOWN in the environment. It should be possible to replace this chown with something

Re: Developer Accessible Hurd Machine

2003-06-25 Thread Robert Millan
(please don't remove the CC to debian-hurd) Hi Benj, Jeff commented me he had plans for a developer accessible GNU/Hurd machine, so he might have something to say (CCing him..) As for the hosting, what are the requisites for placing a public debian machine at home? I'd be willing to help but

Re: Accepted devfsd 1.3.25-14 (i386 source)

2003-06-25 Thread Thierry Vignaud
Russell Coker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Description: devfsd - Daemon for the device filesystem Changes: devfsd (1.3.25-14) unstable; urgency=medium . * Fixed a bug in creating compatability links for DAC960 devices. you did: diff -u devfsd-1.3.25/devfsd.c

Re: Proposal: removing libc5, altgcc and all their old-days dependencies

2003-06-25 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 12:21:22AM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: me wrote: some pages where mozilla/opera/konquerror fails. I would hate to reboot, to Tried mozilla recently? It's a thousand times better than Netscape 4.7x navigator is much

Re: [mass bug filing?] Short descriptions being used as long descriptions and other policy violations

2003-06-25 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Benj. Mako Hill wrote: On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 10:49:13PM +0200, Thomas Viehmann wrote: Writing and maintaining a package description seems to clearly be the package maintainers job. In reference to Branden's message in this thread, one would hope that the maintainers are also particularly

New list (was Re: Old bugs related to translated debconf templates)

2003-06-25 Thread Denis Barbier
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 12:04:29AM +0200, Denis Barbier wrote: Hi, Here is a list of bugs older than a year; most of them are related to translated debconf templates, so fixing them is trivial and I might NMU some of these packages soon. Many bugreports were missing, here is a more accurate

[Stefano =)] Bug#198619: Could not perform configuration on libpam0g

2003-06-25 Thread Sam Hartman
[Please cc me; I'm very behind on -devel] I'm very confused by this bug and am sufficiently busy this week that I'm not going to be able to diagnose it right now. Could anyone who has a chance to do so please look at exactly what is failing from a dependency standpoint? I get the feeling I'm

Re: Please don't misuse the debian/changelog to close bugs!

2003-06-25 Thread Herbert Xu
Matthew Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 25 Jun 2003, Herbert Xu wrote: It is in fact detrimental for a third group, people who are trying to extract the version in which a given bug was fixed. Aah, but if the bug wasn't fixed due to a change in the package, then it is misleading

Re: Please don't misuse the debian/changelog to close bugs!

2003-06-25 Thread Herbert Xu
Matt Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 07:34:23PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: 2. debian/changelog readers -- No change. They have lost a slight bit information that is irrelevant for the purpose of documenting Debian changes. I am one of these readers. I do this.

Re: Please don't misuse the debian/changelog to close bugs!

2003-06-25 Thread Herbert Xu
Brian Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's pointless to go through this again. Instead, I'll offer a concrete example of the confusion this can create (the original submitter asks for clarification of how the bug was fixed): http://bugs.debian.org/188740 That's a documentation issue.

Re: Bug#198682: ITP: kernel-patch-2.4-low-latency -- Reduces the latency of the Linux kernel

2003-06-25 Thread Simon Law
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 09:43:06AM +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote: On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 07:43:34AM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: It's already packaged: [...] : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ apt-cache show kernel-patch-lowlatency-2.4 Package: kernel-patch-lowlatency-2.4 Oops ! Sorry, closing

Accepted zope-extfile 1.1.3-6 (all source)

2003-06-25 Thread Andreas Tille
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 08:52:45 +0200 Source: zope-extfile Binary: zope-extfile Architecture: source all Version: 1.1.3-6 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Andreas Tille [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Andreas Tille [EMAIL

Accepted control-center 1:2.2.2-1 (i386 source)

2003-06-25 Thread Christian Marillat
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 11:18:45 +0200 Source: control-center Binary: gnome-control-center Architecture: source i386 Version: 1:2.2.2-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Christian Marillat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By:

Accepted roundup 0.5.8-2 (all source)

2003-06-25 Thread Bastian Kleineidam
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 23:15:36 +0200 Source: roundup Binary: roundup Architecture: source all Version: 0.5.8-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Bastian Kleineidam [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Bastian Kleineidam [EMAIL

Accepted gtick 0.2.1-1 (i386 source)

2003-06-25 Thread Roland Stigge
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 16:06:52 +0200 Source: gtick Binary: gtick Architecture: source i386 Version: 0.2.1-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Roland Stigge [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Roland Stigge [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Accepted gkrellm 2.1.14-1 (i386 source all)

2003-06-25 Thread Brian M. Almeida
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 06:14:06 -0400 Source: gkrellm Binary: gkrellm-common gkrellmd gkrellm Architecture: source i386 all Version: 2.1.14-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Brian M. Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By:

Accepted gwhois 20030625-2 (all source)

2003-06-25 Thread Michael Holzt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 13:20:29 +0200 Source: gwhois Binary: gwhois Architecture: source all Version: 20030625-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Michael Holzt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Michael Holzt [EMAIL PROTECTED

Accepted phpdoc 20030623-1 (all source)

2003-06-25 Thread Petr Cech
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 23:17:31 +0200 Source: phpdoc Binary: phpdoc Architecture: source all Version: 20030623-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Petr Cech [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Petr Cech [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Accepted drwright 0.17-2 (i386 source)

2003-06-25 Thread Ross Burton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 12:36:57 +0100 Source: drwright Binary: drwright Architecture: source i386 Version: 0.17-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Ross Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Ross Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Accepted drwright 0.17-1 (i386 source)

2003-06-25 Thread Ross Burton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 12:23:26 +0100 Source: drwright Binary: drwright Architecture: source i386 Version: 0.17-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Ross Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Ross Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Accepted zsh-beta 4.1.1-2 (all source)

2003-06-25 Thread Clint Adams
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 23:50:52 -0400 Source: zsh-beta Binary: zsh-beta-static zsh-beta-doc zsh-beta Architecture: source all Version: 4.1.1-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: Clint Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By:

Accepted selinux-small 2003040709-11 (i386 source all)

2003-06-25 Thread Russell Coker
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 23:01:00 +1000 Source: selinux-small Binary: selinux-policy-default selinux libselinux-dev Architecture: source i386 all Version: 2003040709-11 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Russell Coker [EMAIL

Accepted hitop 0.36-3 (i386 source)

2003-06-25 Thread Andrew Stribblehill
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 12:34:58 +0100 Source: hitop Binary: hitop Architecture: source i386 Version: 0.36-3 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Andrew Stribblehill [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Andrew Stribblehill [EMAIL

Accepted conglomerate 0.5.4-1 (i386 source)

2003-06-25 Thread Sven Luther
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 16:55:10 +0200 Source: conglomerate Binary: conglomerate Architecture: source i386 Version: 0.5.4-1 Distribution: experimental Urgency: low Maintainer: Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Sven Luther [EMAIL

Accepted gmetadom 0.1.10-2 (powerpc source)

2003-06-25 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 17:17:24 +0200 Source: gmetadom Binary: libgdome2-cpp-smart0 libgdome2-cpp-smart-dev libgdome2-ocaml-dev libgdome2-ocaml Architecture: source powerpc Version: 0.1.10-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer:

Accepted inn2 2.4.0-3 (i386 source)

2003-06-25 Thread Marco d'Itri
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 15:15:54 +0200 Source: inn2 Binary: inn2-inews inn2 inn2-ssl inn2-dev Architecture: source i386 Version: 2.4.0-3 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: Marco d'Itri [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Marco

Accepted libdebbug-java 0.9 (all source)

2003-06-25 Thread Mark Howard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 16:24:24 +0100 Source: libdebbug-java Binary: libdebbug-java Architecture: source all Version: 0.9 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Mark Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Mark Howard [EMAIL

Accepted debbuggtk 0.10 (all source)

2003-06-25 Thread Mark Howard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 16:27:51 +0100 Source: debbuggtk Binary: debbuggtk Architecture: source all Version: 0.10 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Mark Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Mark Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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