GR: Disambiguation of Section 4.1.5 of the constitution

2003-08-20 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi folks, Two years and 45 weeks ago, a pair of proposals were bruited on this mailing list; the details are available in the archives of debian-vote, and debian-project, circa October 2000. The proposals themselves are available at http://www.debian.org/vote/. This issue is

Transition: new PAM config file handling in unstable

2003-08-20 Thread Steve Langasek
An NMU of the core PAM packages has just been uploaded to unstable with the maintainer's permission, and is currently available at http://incoming.debian.org. The upload addresses the longstanding issue of central management of PAM authentication/password services in Debian. This message is an

Pb avec entrée de menu

2003-08-20 Thread Christian Perrier
Un souci pour mettre une entrée de menu pour Geneweb. Celui-ci est un démon qui écoute sur le port 2317 et sert, par le Web, des bases de données généalogiques. Je voudrais que mon paquet ajoute une zoulie entrée dans le système de menus Debian. Donc, je fais un debian/geneweb.menu avec ceci :

Re: Pb avec entrée de menu

2003-08-20 Thread Eric Heintzmann
Christian Perrier wrote: Un souci pour mettre une entrée de menu pour Geneweb. Celui-ci est un démon qui écoute sur le port 2317 et sert, par le Web, des bases de données généalogiques. Je voudrais que mon paquet ajoute une zoulie entrée dans le système de menus Debian. Donc, je fais un

Re: Pb avec entrée de menu

2003-08-20 Thread Christian Perrier
Une idée, quelqu'un ? /bin/sh -c \/usr/bin/www-browser http://localhost:2317\; Argument invalide : « /usr/bin/www-browser http://localhost:2317 »  :-)

Re: Pb avec entrée de menu

2003-08-20 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mer 20/08/2003 à 11:47, Christian Perrier a écrit : ?package(geneweb):\ needs=text\ section=Apps/Tools\ title=Geneweb\ hints=Geneweb genealogy software\ command=/usr/bin/www-browser http://localhost:2317\ icon=/usr/share/pixmaps/geneweb.xpm L'icône est bien installée (et en plus elle

Re: lancement d'un daemon lors d'un upgrade

2003-08-20 Thread claude
Benoit Friry a écrit : Bonjour, Lors de l'upgrade d'un paquet correspondant à un daemon[1], le script de pré-installation l'arrête[2] et le script de post-installation le relance[3] quel qu'est été l'état précédent. Je trouve ce comportement erroné, dans la mesure où l'upgrade ne remet pas le

Re: lancement d'un daemon lors d'un upgrade

2003-08-20 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Le Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 05:06:53PM +0200, Benoit Friry écrivait: arrêté[5]. Mais si je mets ma machine à jour, et que zope est dans le lot d'upgrade, ce dernier sera lancé. Maintenant, je connais ce comportement et j'y fait attention. Mais je pense que c'est plutôt un « bug » qu'une «

Re: Pb avec entrée de menu

2003-08-20 Thread Julien BLACHE
Josselin Mouette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Par contre je me permets d'émettre des doutes quant à l'utilisation de /usr/bin/www-browser. Si c'est un navigateur texte, vu que tu ne requiers pas de terminal, ça ne marchera pas. Utiliser x-www-browser serait peut-être plus approprié, mais c'est

Re: lancement d'un daemon lors d'un upgrade

2003-08-20 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wednesday 20 August 2003 20:30, Raphael Hertzog wrote: Je note aussi que la page de manuel parle de policy-rc.d mais que ce programme n'existe dans aucun paquet de unstable. Aussi je ne suis pas sûr qeu tout soit prêt pour être imposé ... Le policy-rc.d est prévu pour être personnalisé, aka

Re: lancement d'un daemon lors d'un upgrade

2003-08-20 Thread Frédéric Bothamy
* Raphael Hertzog [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-08-20 20:30] : Le Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 05:06:53PM +0200, Benoit Friry écrivait: arrêté[5]. Mais si je mets ma machine à jour, et que zope est dans le lot d'upgrade, ce dernier sera lancé. Maintenant, je connais ce comportement et j'y fait

Re: python 2.2 - python 2.3 transition

2003-08-20 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Sun, Aug 17, 2003 at 11:22:43AM +0200, Torsten Landschoff wrote: | On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 08:33:26AM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: | Now, I could do the dependency on python (= 2.2), python (2.3) thing. | But what would that gain me or users? I see no benefit there, other than | people

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2003-08-20 Thread Lisa Wolfe
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[Javier Fernandez-Sanguino Pen~a jfs@computer.org] Accepted makepasswd 1.10-1.1 (all source)

2003-08-20 Thread Anthony Towns
Hello world, I had been hoping that I wouldn't have to resort to adding a stick to the various carrots, but evidently we have developers who aren't taking care to measure twice before cutting once. The 0-day NMU period has *not* started, and will not start until the 23rd. People who abuse this

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-20 Thread Anthony Towns
On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 at 12:47:44PM -0500, Adam Heath wrote: On Tue, 19 Aug 2003, Anthony Towns wrote: Dateline! [snip] So, where does dpkg 2.0 fit into this? I can commit to a 1 month finish date(from now), for implementing the features we desire for it. If by dpkg 2.0 you mean

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Re: python 2.2 - python 2.3 transition

2003-08-20 Thread Anthony Towns
On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 at 11:44:22PM -0400, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: The negative effect for the users is that you can't upgrade python while wxgtk-python is installed so you can't try out the latest-and-greatest python in the meantime. This is the issue at hand. Sure you can: $

Re: Binaryless uploads [Was: FTBFS: architecture all packages]

2003-08-20 Thread Joel Baker
On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 at 09:16:03AM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 10:38:10PM -0600, Joel Baker wrote: If they get hit by a bus, reassigned by their job to Outer Mongolia, or just plain get bored with doing it, we lose that benefit entirely, as things stand today.

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Re: Debian 10th birthday gear

2003-08-20 Thread Anand Kumria
Hi Steve, On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 08:02:44AM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote: On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 05:40:26PM +1000, Anand Kumria wrote: If you, or anyone else, is interested shipping those overseas could be arranged (with the caveat that glass might break in transit). I need to know by

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Re: Debian Weekly News - August 19th, 2003

2003-08-20 Thread Jérôme Marant
Quoting Josselin Mouette [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Le mar 19/08/2003 à 23:33, Mike Hommey a écrit : Ok, let's google a bit, and shazaam ! http://www.linex.org/sources/linex/debian/linex/nvidia-glx_1.0.4349-1_i386.deb Oh ! non-free software ! Thanks Richard for keeping me laughing.

Re: Debian Weekly News - August 19th, 2003

2003-08-20 Thread Jérôme Marant
Great, the debian-legal discussions moved to debian-devel. Quoting Peter S Galbraith [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Now consider that most or all of the FSF documentation for their GPL'ed software is released under the GFDL. The licenses are incompatible so someone who forks a project cannot cut and

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-20 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Tuesday 19 August 2003 08:49, Anthony Towns wrote: I'm all for aggressive goals, let's aim for sometime in December -- how about 2003-12-01 00:00:00 UTC? Do you have some Official Opinion(tm)[1] as the RM about what KDE, gcc, X, gnome versions will be in sarge? greetings -- vbi [1]

Re: How to locate package uploader?

2003-08-20 Thread Andreas Metzler
Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 at 07:00:15PM -0600, Jamin W. Collins wrote: Is there any way to find out who uploaded a given package? [...] You need to find the .changes file. If the upload closes any bugs, you can extract it from the BTS, [...] Failing that,

Re: non-DD contributors and the debian keyring

2003-08-20 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Andreas Metzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Martin Quinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just wondered if it would be possible for non-developper contributors to Debian to get their GPG key in the Debian keyserver. [...] This trust relationship would be eased if I could sign my mails and

Re: future Date: field for Packages files

2003-08-20 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Dan Jacobson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Regarding a future Date: field for each package in Packages files, * Should the field be called Date: or Time:? * Should it be like Mon, 18 Aug 2003 22:09:30 GMT or 1061315862? * Should it refer to the time the developer finished wrapping the package,

Re: non-DD contributors and the debian keyring

2003-08-20 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Goswin von Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-08-20 10:31]: Martin Quinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just wondered if it would be possible for non-developper contributors to Debian to get their GPG key in the Debian keyserver. You can also apply as a NM for translation work. You

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-20 Thread Chris Cheney
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 09:49:03AM +0200, Adrian von Bidder wrote: Content-Description: signed data On Tuesday 19 August 2003 08:49, Anthony Towns wrote: I'm all for aggressive goals, let's aim for sometime in December -- how about 2003-12-01 00:00:00 UTC? Do you have some Official

Re: Debian Installation Goals (was: Happy Birthday)

2003-08-20 Thread cobaco
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2003-08-19 21:14, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: cobaco [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 2003-08-17 09:02, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: As bad as it might be I would like to have a menu tree containing all packages that can be configured and when

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-20 Thread cobaco
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2003-08-20 10:13, Chris Cheney wrote: On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 09:49:03AM +0200, Adrian von Bidder wrote: On Tuesday 19 August 2003 08:49, Anthony Towns wrote: I'm all for aggressive goals, let's aim for sometime in December -- how about

Re: non-DD contributors and the debian keyring

2003-08-20 Thread Martin Quinson
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 06:46:34PM +1000, Martin Michlmayr wrote: * Goswin von Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-08-20 10:31]: Martin Quinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just wondered if it would be possible for non-developper contributors to Debian to get their GPG key in the Debian

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-20 Thread Isaac To
cobaco == cobaco [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: cobaco kde 3.2 release is slated for 8th december[1], is there any cobaco chance we'll wait for it, just so the outdated kde label doesn't cobaco apply again immediately after release? But does the first few paragraphs of RM's original

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-20 Thread Michael Piefel
Am 20.08.03 um 11:08:28 schrieb cobaco: kde 3.2 release is slated for 8th december[1], is there any chance we'll wait for it, just so the outdated kde label doesn't apply again immediately after release? It's not KDE 4, so it doesn't really matter that much. And it probably won't be GNOME

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-20 Thread cobaco
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2003-08-20 11:47, Isaac To wrote: cobaco == cobaco [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: cobaco kde 3.2 release is slated for 8th december[1], is there any cobaco chance we'll wait for it, just so the outdated kde label doesn't cobaco apply

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Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-20 Thread Isaac To
cobaco == cobaco [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: cobaco quoteBasically, it's the difference between having a sysadmin cobaco spending fifteen minutes every day or week tweaking your server cobaco to keep it running, or having a sysadmin come in for a week once cobaco a year to do a

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-20 Thread cobaco
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2003-08-20 12:10, Michael Piefel wrote: Am 20.08.03 um 11:08:28 schrieb cobaco: kde 3.2 release is slated for 8th december[1], is there any chance we'll wait for it, just so the outdated kde label doesn't apply again immediately after

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-20 Thread Cameron Patrick
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 12:10:18PM +0200, Michael Piefel wrote: | Am 20.08.03 um 11:08:28 schrieb cobaco: | kde 3.2 release is slated for 8th december[1], is there any chance we'll wait | for it, just so the outdated kde label doesn't apply again immediately after | release? | | It's not

Re: Locales in init scripts (about gdm bug #147091)

2003-08-20 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 12:19:03PM -0300, Daniel Ruoso wrote: Hi. (...) So, how to make the init scripts localized? What do you think? /etc/default/language? I believe this has been discussed previously, see for example [1] and debian-boot [2]. From briefly looking at redhat's

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-20 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 11:08:28AM +0200, cobaco wrote: On 2003-08-20 10:13, Chris Cheney wrote: On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 09:49:03AM +0200, Adrian von Bidder wrote: On Tuesday 19 August 2003 08:49, Anthony Towns wrote: I'm all for aggressive goals, let's aim for sometime in December

Re: [Javier Fernandez-Sanguino Pen~a jfs@computer.org] Accepted makepasswd 1.10-1.1 (all source)

2003-08-20 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 03:16:06PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: I had been hoping that I wouldn't have to resort to adding a stick to the various carrots, but evidently we have developers who aren't taking care to measure twice before cutting once. The 0-day NMU period has *not* started, and

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-20 Thread cobaco
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2003-08-20 12:36, Isaac To wrote: cobaco == cobaco [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why KDE cannot be used on servers (how about a X terminal server? You don't have to set it up?) not what I meant: off course it can be used on a server, so can the

#206298 spip: prerm script blindly removes directories

2003-08-20 Thread Gaetan Ryckeboer
Package: spip Version: 1.6.0-2 Severity: normal The prerm script blindly deletes the following directories and all subdirectories: /var/cache/spip /usr/share/spip/ecrire/upload /usr/share/spip/ecrire/data There is no guarantee that the files in these directories belong only

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-20 Thread cobaco
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2003-08-20 12:43, Colin Watson wrote: There's a big difference between being out of date by a major version and by a minor version. agreed, though IMHO kde 3.1.2 - 3.1.3 is a minor version upgrade and 3.1 - 3.2 is a major version upgrade

KDE 3.1.3 from unstable...

2003-08-20 Thread Hamish Marson
I realise that running unstable I'm kind of sailing close to the wind, and don't want to put anyones back up, but kpackage really seems to be somewhat challenged when trying to install the latest KDE updates that are in unstable... Perhaps unstable should extend to 'it may beinstallable or

RE: Your application

2003-08-20 Thread Patchwork by Design
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Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-20 Thread Adam Heath
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Anthony Towns wrote: If by dpkg 2.0 you mean rewritten dpkg and dpkg-dev, it doesn't. There is no chance that a package management system that hasn't seen the light of day, let alone reached beta test, will be ready for release in four months, let alone one. Just

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-20 Thread Russell Coker
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 20:48, Cameron Patrick wrote: There were pretty major changes between KDE 3 and KDE 3.1. As a Debian Anyone who wants to can establish their own repository for back-ported KDE packages. KDE has a good history of having people do that, at times there have been 3 or more

Re: KDE 3.1.3 from unstable...

2003-08-20 Thread Federico Sevilla III
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 12:48:28PM +0100, Hamish Marson wrote: Anyone know where I can get an apt blessed version of libvorbis0? Or am I just missing a package URL in apt? As far as Sid is concerned I believe it's already libvorbis0a. There is no more libvorbis0 there. Perhaps the KDE packages

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-20 Thread Jesus Climent
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 01:40:53PM +0200, cobaco wrote: We're never going to manage to release just after high-profile releases of all our major components, so let's not delay for this one unless we have to. true enough, still releasing a week before a high-profile release of KDE is

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-20 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 at 04:49:25PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: Also make sure to include some leg room if you depend on packages that have a tendency to be buggy (glibc, for example). The new glibc has already stalled the progress into testing of a large number of packages, and the number of

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-20 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 01:26:17PM +0200, cobaco wrote: and why on stable you do not expect a stable KDE? kde 3.2. will be the stable kde release come 8 december The reality is that if KDE 3.2 is stable in KDE, and it entered testing on December 8th, it would probably delay the release of

Re: Bug#205471: [rene@debian.org: Bug#205471: devscripts: running debuild could lead to deleting _all_ backup dirs/files on the system]

2003-08-20 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 at 09:24:25PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aaron M. Ucko) writes: How about requiring the debian directory to have an appropriately named parent (as determined by debian/changelog and debian/control, which should probably also have to

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-20 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 12:38:57PM +0200, cobaco wrote: On 2003-08-20 12:10, Michael Piefel wrote: Am 20.08.03 um 11:08:28 schrieb cobaco: kde 3.2 release is slated for 8th december[1], is there any chance we'll wait for it, just so the outdated kde label doesn't apply again

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-20 Thread John Goerzen
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 12:11:20PM +0200, cobaco wrote: Note that the RM was talking about servers there, while kde is end-user software, big difference IMHO. Taking into account that kde isn't server-software and that kde won't do release if there are major bugs left I don't think

Bug#206387: ITP: DeFX -- Multi-effects processor plug-in for XMMS

2003-08-20 Thread Bruno Barrera C.
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-08-18 Severity: wishlist * Package name: DeFX Version : 0.1.0 Upstream Author : Franco Catrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://defx.sourceforge.net/ * License : (GPL.) Description : Multi-effects

Re: KDE 3.1.3 from unstable...

2003-08-20 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 12:48:28PM +0100, Hamish Marson wrote: I realise that running unstable I'm kind of sailing close to the wind, and don't want to put anyones back up, but kpackage really seems to be somewhat challenged when trying to install the latest KDE updates that are in

Bug#206393: ITP: DeFX -- Multi-effects processor plug-in for XMMS

2003-08-20 Thread Bruno Barrera C.
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-08-20 Severity: wishlist * Package name: DeFX Version : 0.1.0 Upstream Author : Franco Catrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://defx.sourceforge.net * License : (GPL.) Description : Multi-effects processor

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-20 Thread Santiago Vila
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Matt Zimmerman wrote: On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 at 04:49:25PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: Also make sure to include some leg room if you depend on packages that have a tendency to be buggy (glibc, for example). The new glibc has already stalled the progress into testing of

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-20 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 12:11:20PM +0200, cobaco wrote: quoteBasically, it's the difference between having a sysadmin spending fifteen minutes every day or week tweaking your server to keep it running, or having a sysadmin come in for a week once a year to do a major upgrade./quote Note that

Re: KDE 3.1.3 from unstable...

2003-08-20 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mer 20/08/2003 à 13:48, Hamish Marson a écrit : Perhaps unstable should extend to 'it may beinstallable or not' as well as the stability of the software (Although I don't find many really big problems in it usually). That's exactly what unstable is meant to be. However... trying to

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Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-20 Thread cobaco
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2003-08-20 15:33, John Goerzen wrote: On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 12:11:20PM +0200, cobaco wrote: Note that the RM was talking about servers there, while kde is end-user software, big difference IMHO. Taking into account that kde isn't

Re: #206298 spip: prerm script blindly removes directories

2003-08-20 Thread Sam Hocevar
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003, Gaetan Ryckeboer wrote: /var/cache/spip /usr/share/spip/ecrire/upload /usr/share/spip/ecrire/data All right. I understand the problem. But the directories removed by the postrm/purge are normaly only used : - by user, to upload datas related to his spip

Re: KDE 3.1.3 from unstable...

2003-08-20 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 08:25:01PM +0800, Federico Sevilla III wrote: On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 12:48:28PM +0100, Hamish Marson wrote: Anyone know where I can get an apt blessed version of libvorbis0? Or am I just missing a package URL in apt? As far as Sid is concerned I believe it's

Re: Debian 10th birthday gear

2003-08-20 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 04:48:15PM +1000, Anand Kumria wrote: Hi Steve, On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 08:02:44AM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote: On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 05:40:26PM +1000, Anand Kumria wrote: If you, or anyone else, is interested shipping those overseas could be arranged (with

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-20 Thread cobaco
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2003-08-20 15:27, Steve Langasek wrote: On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 12:38:57PM +0200, cobaco wrote: On 2003-08-20 12:10, Michael Piefel wrote: Am 20.08.03 um 11:08:28 schrieb cobaco: kde 3.2 release is slated for 8th december[1], is there

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-20 Thread Josef Spillner
On Wednesday 20 August 2003 13:30, Russell Coker wrote: KDE 1.x was quite usable, while many of the beta releases in the 2.x and early 3.x series weren't... That's why they're called betas :) I don't think this whole discussion fits in here, for 2 reasons: - the KDE conference (which will

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-20 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Op wo 20-08-2003, om 13:26 schreef cobaco: On 2003-08-20 12:36, Isaac To wrote: cobaco == cobaco [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why KDE cannot be used on servers (how about a X terminal server? You don't have to set it up?) not what I meant: off course it can be used on a server, so can

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-20 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 03:52:42PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Matt Zimmerman wrote: On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 at 04:49:25PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: Also make sure to include some leg room if you depend on packages that have a tendency to be buggy (glibc, for

Re: Bug#205471: [rene@debian.org: Bug#205471: devscripts: running debuild could lead to deleting _all_ backup dirs/files on the system]

2003-08-20 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Julian Gilbey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I really like this idea, thank you! I will accept directory names Thanks. :-) matching the regexp /^$package(-.*)?$/ - does that seem reasonable? Yep, though I might change the * to a +. -- Aaron M. Ucko, KB1CJC (amu at alum.mit.edu, ucko at

Re: non-DD contributors and the debian keyring

2003-08-20 Thread Stephen Frost
* Martin Quinson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: $ LC_ALL=C gpg --keyserver keyring.debian.org --recv-keys E145F334 gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found. gpg: Total number processed: 0 This is the ID of my key, available from www.keyserver.net and signed by 2 DD. Did I mess something up ?

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-20 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 08:49:33AM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 at 04:49:25PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: Also make sure to include some leg room if you depend on packages that have a tendency to be buggy (glibc, for example). The new glibc has already stalled the

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-20 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 06:48:51PM +0800, Cameron Patrick wrote: There were pretty major changes between KDE 3 and KDE 3.1. As a Debian user, I'd be rather miffed if a new version of KDE came out within a week of sarge being released ... on the other hand, if sarge is to be frozen in a couple

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-20 Thread cobaco
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2003-08-20 15:17, Wouter Verhelst wrote: You're trying to say that it's impossible for an organization to install some thousands of X terminals that all run KDE (which, of course, is installed on the server)? not what I'm trying to say Or do

UniteU's AntiVirus scan detected a virus in a message you sent to %2

2003-08-20 Thread nortonsadmin
Recipient of the infected attachment: DC3, UniteU\Mailbox Store (DC3), Paige Obrien/Inbox Subject of the message: Re: Details One or more attachments were intercepted and deleted Attachment document_9446.pif was Deleted for the following reasons: Virus [EMAIL PROTECTED] was found.

Re: #206298 spip: prerm script blindly removes directories

2003-08-20 Thread Jamin W. Collins
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 01:45:09PM +0200, Gaetan Ryckeboer wrote: Package: spip Version: 1.6.0-2 Severity: normal The prerm script blindly deletes the following directories and all subdirectories: /var/cache/spip /usr/share/spip/ecrire/upload

Re: Binaryless uploads [Was: FTBFS: architecture all packages]

2003-08-20 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Brian May wrote: When Jaldhar takes about dependancies, I assume he means normal Depends, not Build-Depends??? Correct. [...] Source package has the following files (note: this is called a source package not a binary package): webmin_1.100.orig.tar.gz

what about ip's

2003-08-20 Thread David Smith
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Re: #206298 spip: prerm script blindly removes directories

2003-08-20 Thread Gaetan Ryckeboer
Le Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 09:26:14AM -0600, Jamin W. Collins a écrit : All right. I understand the problem. But the directories removed by the postrm/purge are normaly only used : - by user, to upload datas related to his spip installation, Is this uploaded data recorded anywhere? In the

Re: What doing with an uncooperative maintainer ?

2003-08-20 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 04:32:03PM +0200, Thomas Hood wrote: I don't see why it would be idiotic to fork the package. If you can package this application better than the current maintainer then go ahead and do so. Forking packages outside of Debian might or might not achieve the goals

Re: non-DD contributors and the debian keyring

2003-08-20 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 11:23:47AM +0200, Martin Quinson wrote: On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 06:46:34PM +1000, Martin Michlmayr wrote: * Goswin von Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-08-20 10:31]: Martin Quinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just wondered if it would be possible for

Re: Binaryless uploads [Was: FTBFS: architecture all packages]

2003-08-20 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Tue, 19 Aug 2003, Steve Langasek wrote: Yep. And given that upstream offers webmin as an all-in-one solution to web-based management needs, I don't really see any reason why they shouldn't be kept lock-step with one another. As Debian developers our goal is to make an integrated OS which

Proposal: make kernel install easier

2003-08-20 Thread Adam C Powell IV
Greetings, Installing a new kernel package can be a bit of a pain, especially for newbies, what with hand-editing lilo.conf or config files for other bootloaders, from grub to yaboot/quik, aboot, palo, you name it. Yes, the kernel-image postinst runs lilo, but lilo.conf is invariably out of

Does anyone use barrendero, or know of an equivalent?

2003-08-20 Thread Steve Langasek
Hello, The package barrendero is a candidate for removal from testing. It has two RC bugs, no response from the maintainer, and the upstream website seems to have vanished (the maintainer is also upstream). It seems like a useful tool: Description: Deletes messages on the spool dir depending

Re: Debian Weekly News - August 19th, 2003

2003-08-20 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 08:35, Jrme Marant wrote: Quoting Josselin Mouette [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Le mar 19/08/2003 23:33, Mike Hommey a crit : Ok, let's google a bit, and shazaam ! http://www.linex.org/sources/linex/debian/linex/nvidia-glx_1.0.4349-1_i386.deb Oh ! non-free

Re: ftp.gnu.org cracked

2003-08-20 Thread Scott James Remnant
[ Moved to debian-devel, I don't think this is relevant to private as the GNU crack is well publicised ] On Mon, 2003-08-18 at 14:58, Matt Zimmerman wrote: On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 12:35:44PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: On Mon, 18 Aug 2003 12:51, Robert Millan wrote: What do you suggest

Re: Debian Weekly News - August 19th, 2003

2003-08-20 Thread Jérôme Marant
Quoting Scott James Remnant [EMAIL PROTECTED]: No he wouldn't. FDL is about free documentation. :-) Except it isn't :-) According to you :-) -- Jérôme Marant [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Binaryless uploads

2003-08-20 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 16:16:10 -0400 (EDT), Jaldhar H Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Tue, 19 Aug 2003, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Then the source should be split in a way that the normal debian/rules files work and common files (like headers) stuffed into a -dev package you can build-depend

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-20 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Steve Langasek wrote: KDE3.2 doesn't miss the deadline by 7 days, it misses the deadline by almost two months: Uh, you've got that turned around. October is not _missing_ the deadline, that's _beating_ it. * October 15th Final, last-minute, low-risk bug fixes only .. which means we

Re: Binaryless uploads [Was: FTBFS: architecture all packages]

2003-08-20 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ok. Lets leave aside for a moment the .debs which would go into contrib or non-free so would have to be built seperately. What happens if webmin-squid has an RC bug? As Goswin said, all the webmin-* packages will be held back from testing. What

Re: non-DD contributors and the debian keyring

2003-08-20 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Martin Quinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 06:46:34PM +1000, Martin Michlmayr wrote: * Goswin von Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-08-20 10:31]: Martin Quinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just wondered if it would be possible for non-developper contributors

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-20 Thread Santiago Vila
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Steve Langasek wrote: On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 03:52:42PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: Will we some day consider seriously the idea of autobuilders compiling against testing those packages which do not need libraries from unstable to be built? Do you foresee any

Re: what about ip's

2003-08-20 Thread Josh McKinney
On approximately Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 10:06:15AM -0400, David Smith wrote: i've had cable connectivity with charter.net for more than 1 year. until yesterday i've never had need of an email acct there. i planned on using the address at charter when the spam at my top-10 acct became unbearable.

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-20 Thread Bruce Sass
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, cobaco wrote: I'd agree if there had been a rewrite of kdelibs or something, but kde 3.1 - 3.2 is evolutionary without big changes to what was already there. It does not take a big change to break software... e.g., openssh changed a message and the sftp kioslave broke

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