Placer le umask d'un processus lancé par start-stop-daemon?

2003-11-12 Thread Christian Perrier
Pour le paquet Geneweb, je lance actuellement le démon de la façon suivante : GENEWEBSHARE=/usr/share/geneweb GENEWEBDOC=/usr/share/doc/geneweb/doc GENEWEBDB=/var/lib/geneweb GENEWEBUSER=geneweb DAEMON=/usr/bin/gwd NAME=geneweb LOGFILE=/var/log/$NAME.log .../... echo -n Starting

Re: Cherche DD pour signature de clé sur 25/90/68/70

2003-11-12 Thread Julien BLACHE
Nicolas Bertolissio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Y aurait-il un DD dans les régions sus-citées ? Quant à moi, je sur sur Mulhouse et travail à l'EuroAirPort. Va vraiment falloir qu'on se fasse un p'tit meeting, vu le nombre qu'on est, un de ces jours. JB. -- Julien BLACHE - Debian GNU/Linux

Re: Cherche DD pour signature de clé sur 25/90/68/70

2003-11-12 Thread Julien BLACHE
Nicolas Rueff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Après avoir reçu quelques réponses, une question m'est venue (Aahh, l'éternel quête de connaissances ...). Existe-t-il un site géolocalisant précisément les DD ? Ou ai-je eu une idée révolutionnaire, ce qui m'étonnerait vu mon déficit de sommeil ;) Les

Re: Placer le umask d'un processus lancé par start-stop-daemon?

2003-11-12 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Julien Gilles ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): A priori le umask est hérité lors du fork entre le père et le fils, donc il suffit de positionner le umask avant de lancer start-stop-daemon. Ca, c'est ce que j'avais essayé en premier et, devine ? Ca ne marche pas.. :-)

Re: Cherche DD pour signature de clé sur 25/90/68/70

2003-11-12 Thread Julien BLACHE
Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Les infos de localisation sont dans la base LDAP, ce qui veut dire que les développeurs y ont accès. (c'est comme ça qu'on génère la world map) Ce qui serait cool serait de pouvoir zoomer sur le world map. Un amas de points sur l'europe cela n'est pas

Re: Cherche DD pour signature de clé sur 25/90/68/70

2003-11-12 Thread Daniel Déchelotte
Julien BLACHE [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : | C'est volontairement imprécis, il est hors de question de donner des | infos de localisation trop précises. Mouarf. Il y aurait un zoom qui permettrait de mettre l'Alsace en plein ecran que la vie privee des DD ne serait pas encore trop mise a mal.

ITP: 1-mb-random-data -- one megabyte of pseudo-random data

2003-11-12 Thread Joey Hess
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: 1-mb-random-data Version : 1 Upstream Author : entropy * URL : /dev/urandom * License : ? (may violate various licenses at random, though probably won't) Description : one megabyte

Re: ITP: 1-mb-random-data -- one megabyte of pseudo-random data

2003-11-12 Thread Mike Dresser
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003, Joey Hess wrote: I intend to dd if=/dev/urandom of=debian/tmp/usr/lib/1-mb-random-data Will this be available via CVS? ;) Mike

Re: Bug#219942: ITP: zope-textindexng2 -- Fulltext index for Zope

2003-11-12 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, 11 Nov 2003, Joe Drew wrote: This is the new fulltext index for Zope and is the most feature-complete solution for fulltext indexing under Zope. Supported Formats: HTML, PDF, Postscript, WinWord, PowerPoint, OpenOffice Again, s/fulltext/full text/g. What does this mean?

Re: status of Progeny projects

2003-11-12 Thread Peter Zoeller
Hi Ian: I have been long time user of linux and I find the greatest weakness to be the ability to easily install applications which seems to be the intent of this group. I would like to make a suggestion with respect to handling of dependancies. Most software installs fail as a result of

gimp1.2: gimp package suggest non-free software

2003-11-12 Thread Mathieu Roy
Package: gimp1.2 Version: 1.2.3-2.4 Severity: normal Hi, Installed the gimp, I got a message suggesting me to install gimp1.2-nonfree I find non-appropriate for a package in main to advertise for non-free packages in non-free, which is theoretically not part of Debian -- a package part of

Re: Removal of LaTeX2HTML from main

2003-11-12 Thread Mathieu Roy
Ralf Treinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] a tapoté : On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 04:06:02PM +0100, Roland Stigge wrote: working on the legal issues for LaTeX2HTML [1], at debian-legal [2], we concluded that LaTeX2HTML will have to be removed from main because it [...] With /usr/bin/latex2html

Re: ITP: 1-mb-random-data -- one megabyte of pseudo-random data

2003-11-12 Thread Marc Haber
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 01:08:55 -0500, Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: 1-mb-random-data Version : 1 Upstream Author : entropy * URL : /dev/urandom * License : ? (may violate various licenses at random, though

Re: possible compromise for ITP: linux?

2003-11-12 Thread Herbert Xu
Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Problems of this approach, off the top of my head: a. Having a binary package of the same name that is produced by different source packages on different architectures may or may not drive the archive maintainence scripts nuts. On the other hand,

Re: Bug#220261: RFP: tnimage -- scientific image analysis software

2003-11-12 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, 11 Nov 2003, Don Armstrong wrote: Odd. I was looking for a package that does exactly this on monday. I'm going to evaluate it and see if it does what I hope it does, and then prepare it for packaging in debian... assuming it fullfills the nich that I need filled. Just keep me

Re: status of Progeny projects

2003-11-12 Thread Eric Schwartz
On Tuesday, Nov 11, 2003, at 23:39 America/Denver, Peter Zoeller wrote: Most software installs fail as a result of missing libraries. I would like to see a central repository for all libraries, old, new and development. A repository that when a library dependancy needs to be satisfied, the

Re: gimp1.2: gimp package suggest non-free software

2003-11-12 Thread Mathieu Roy
reopen 220363 thanks Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au a tapoté : On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 08:00:44AM +0100, Mathieu Roy wrote: Package: gimp1.2 Version: 1.2.3-2.4 Severity: normal Installed the gimp, I got a message suggesting me to install gimp1.2-nonfree If you don't want to

Re: gimp1.2: gimp package suggest non-free software

2003-11-12 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Mathieu Roy | Installed the gimp, I got a message suggesting me to install | gimp1.2-nonfree Suggests are ok, Recommends and Depends are not ok. If you disagree with this, please discuss it on -policy, it's not a technical discussion. -- Tollef Fog Heen

Re: Removal of LaTeX2HTML from main

2003-11-12 Thread Isaac Clerencia
On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 08:15:19AM +0100, Mathieu Roy wrote: Can someone provide a link to a clear explanation about latex2html being non-free? Read the latest DWN

Re: gimp1.2: gimp package suggest non-free software

2003-11-12 Thread Mathieu Roy
Tollef Fog Heen [EMAIL PROTECTED] a tapoté : * Mathieu Roy | Installed the gimp, I got a message suggesting me to install | gimp1.2-nonfree Suggests are ok, Recommends and Depends are not ok. If you disagree with this, please discuss it on -policy, it's not a technical discussion. 1)

Re: Removal of LaTeX2HTML from main

2003-11-12 Thread Mathieu Roy
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Isaac Clerencia) a tapoté : On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 08:15:19AM +0100, Mathieu Roy wrote: Can someone provide a link to a clear explanation about latex2html being non-free? Read the latest DWN You mean the DWN from yesterday which has not already been translated? Ok,

Re: gimp1.2: gimp package suggest non-free software

2003-11-12 Thread Pierre Machard
On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 09:27:35AM +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: * Mathieu Roy | Installed the gimp, I got a message suggesting me to install | gimp1.2-nonfree Suggests are ok, Recommends and Depends are not ok. If you disagree with this, please discuss it on -policy, it's not a

Re: Removal of LaTeX2HTML from main

2003-11-12 Thread Isaac Clerencia
On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 09:56:44AM +0100, Mathieu Roy wrote: Read the latest DWN You mean the DWN from yesterday which has not already been translated? Ok, thanks. In case someone else is wondering, the explanation is finally there:

Re: Kernel 2.4.22-k7-1: initrd cannot mount proc from cramfs image

2003-11-12 Thread Nicola Larosa
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 If you're using busybox then try regenerating the initrd image with BUSYBOX=no. I did not generate the image, i'm using a stock kernel-image-2.4.22-1-k7 package, no trace of busybox in the initrd image, and it's not even installed on this

Re: gimp1.2: gimp package suggest non-free software

2003-11-12 Thread Fabian Fagerholm
On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 10:53, Mathieu Roy wrote: Suggests are ok, Recommends and Depends are not ok. If you disagree with this, please discuss it on -policy, it's not a technical discussion. 1) Do you have a pointer that give that information in the debian policy?

Re: gimp1.2: gimp package suggest non-free software

2003-11-12 Thread Don Armstrong
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003, Mathieu Roy wrote: 1) Do you have a pointer that give that information in the debian policy? Policy 2.2.1: Every package in main and non-US/main must comply with the DFSG (Debian Free Software Guidelines). In addition, the packages in main * must not require a

Re: gimp1.2: gimp package suggest non-free software

2003-11-12 Thread Mathieu Roy
Fabian Fagerholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] a tapoté : On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 10:53, Mathieu Roy wrote: Suggests are ok, Recommends and Depends are not ok. If you disagree with this, please discuss it on -policy, it's not a technical discussion. 1) Do you have a pointer that give that

Re: gimp1.2: gimp package suggest non-free software

2003-11-12 Thread Mathieu Roy
Pierre Machard [EMAIL PROTECTED] a tapoté : On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 09:27:35AM +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: * Mathieu Roy | Installed the gimp, I got a message suggesting me to install | gimp1.2-nonfree Suggests are ok, Recommends and Depends are not ok. If you disagree with this,

Re: gimp1.2: gimp package suggest non-free software

2003-11-12 Thread Fabian Fagerholm
On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 11:27, Mathieu Roy wrote: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-archive.html#s-main ...the packages in main * must not require a package outside of main for compilation or execution (thus, the package must not declare a Depends,

Re: gimp1.2: gimp package suggest non-free software

2003-11-12 Thread Mathieu Roy
Don Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] a tapoté : 2) Why the gimp cannot any longer save gif files without installing non-free software? The software itself is free, but the algorithm necessary to save GIF files (LZW) is patent encumbered in certain parts of the planet, and the patent is actively

Re: gimp1.2: gimp package suggest non-free software

2003-11-12 Thread Andreas Metzler
Mathieu Roy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tollef Fog Heen [EMAIL PROTECTED] a tapoté : * Mathieu Roy | Installed the gimp, I got a message suggesting me to install | gimp1.2-nonfree Suggests are ok, Recommends and Depends are not ok. If you disagree with this, please discuss it on -policy,

Re: gimp1.2: gimp package suggest non-free software

2003-11-12 Thread Joerg Jaspert
Fabian Fagerholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * must not require a package outside of main for compilation or execution (thus, the package must not declare a Depends, Recommends, or Build-Depends relationship on a non-main package), ... Note, no mention of

Re: gimp1.2: gimp package suggest non-free software

2003-11-12 Thread Joerg Jaspert
Mathieu Roy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If not, why incitating people to get non-free stuff while you just can provide a Gimp that can save GIF without LZW? If it isnt already there - write a patch for it if you want that. -- bye Joerg A.D. 1492: Christopher Columbus arrives in what he

Re: gimp1.2: gimp package suggest non-free software

2003-11-12 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mer 12/11/2003 à 10:31, Mathieu Roy a écrit : If you have anything on topic to do, you are welcome to reply to this mail. The whole thread is off-topic on this list. -- .''`. Josselin Mouette/\./\ : :' : [EMAIL PROTECTED] `. `'[EMAIL

Re: gimp1.2: gimp package suggest non-free software

2003-11-12 Thread Don Armstrong
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003, Mathieu Roy wrote: If not, why incitating people to get non-free stuff while you just can provide a Gimp that can save GIF without LZW? Because no such non-LZW plugin exists for the GIMP. [And since people may wonder why they can't save GIFs, it is appropriate for the

Re: ITP: 1-mb-random-data -- one megabyte of pseudo-random data

2003-11-12 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description : one megabyte of pseudo-random data I intend to dd if=3D/dev/urandom of=3Ddebian/tmp/usr/lib/1-mb-random-data Please, please, no! /dev/urandom does not reliably deliver pseudo-random data. There is a chance that fresh entropy will arrive

Re: gimp1.2: gimp package suggest non-free software

2003-11-12 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 09:25:23AM +0100, Mathieu Roy wrote: reopen 220363 thanks Please do not abuse the BTS. If you want to discuss it, feel free to do so, but this is not a bug in the gimp package. Are you kidding? Do you really think that I'm the only person to find UNACCEPTABLE that a

Re: gimp1.2: gimp package suggest non-free software

2003-11-12 Thread Artur R. Czechowski
On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 10:54:29AM +0100, Mathieu Roy wrote: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/gif.html It is also possible to create GIFs using a patent-free run length encoding but this doesn't achieve the compression that one normally expects in a GIF. If not,

Re: Bug#219942: ITP: zope-textindexng2 -- Fulltext index for Zope

2003-11-12 Thread Igor Stroh
On Mi, 2003-11-12 at 07:44, Andreas Tille wrote: On Tue, 11 Nov 2003, Joe Drew wrote: This is the new fulltext index for Zope and is the most feature-complete solution for fulltext indexing under Zope. Supported Formats: HTML, PDF, Postscript, WinWord, PowerPoint, OpenOffice

Re: gimp1.2: gimp package suggest non-free software

2003-11-12 Thread Mathieu Roy
Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au a tapoté : On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 09:25:23AM +0100, Mathieu Roy wrote: reopen 220363 thanks Please do not abuse the BTS. If you want to discuss it, feel free to do so, but this is not a bug in the gimp package. If you consider that not being a bug,

Re: ITP: 1-mb-random-data -- one megabyte of pseudo-random data

2003-11-12 Thread Cameron Patrick
On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 11:17:57AM +0100, Henning Makholm wrote: | Please, please, no! /dev/urandom does not reliably deliver | pseudo-random data. There is a chance that fresh entropy will arrive | in the middle of the computation and mess up with the pseudoness. No, I already covered that in

Closing. (Was: Re: Bug#219582: ITP: linux -- Linux 2.4 kernel)

2003-11-12 Thread Robert Millan
On Fri, Nov 07, 2003 at 02:37:35PM +0100, Robert Millan wrote: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: linux Version : 2.4.22 Upstream Author : Linus Torvalds [EMAIL PROTECTED] and others, see: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/CREDITS *

Re: gimp1.2: gimp package suggest non-free software

2003-11-12 Thread Roberto Suarez Soto
On Nov/12, Mathieu Roy wrote: As you're not a member of the Debian project, you don't get any say in what's to be accepted or not Apparently you forget about a specific part of the Social Contract. (Our Priorities are Our Users and Free Software...) Note that Users goes before Free

Version Updating Question

2003-11-12 Thread R.G. Sidler
Hi! It will not be necessary to name it 1.0really, but as many others do: 1.0final... What about that one? Rolly

Bug#220401: ITP: linux-experimental -- Linux 2.4 kernel [EXPERIMENTAL PACKAGE]

2003-11-12 Thread Robert Millan
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: linux-experimental Version : 2.4.22 Upstream Author : Linus Torvalds [EMAIL PROTECTED] and others, see: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/CREDITS * URL : http://www.kernel.org/ * License

Re: radiusd-freeradius history and future

2003-11-12 Thread Francesco P. Lovergine
On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 03:37:29PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote: On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 14:11, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: That would need a reimplementation of some (all?) of the servers. Wouldn't it? Old ones (cistron, livingston) call getpwnam()|getspnam() to retrieve the user's

Re: Bug#219582: ITP: linux -- Linux 2.4 kernel

2003-11-12 Thread Robert Millan
On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 04:02:14PM +, Andrew Suffield wrote: On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 02:47:14PM +0100, Robert Millan wrote: However, for the matter of finding out wether there will be much people in that userbase, there's the Popularity Contest. Some people just never learn. I know,

Re: Bug#219582: ITP: linux -- Linux 2.4 kernel

2003-11-12 Thread Robert Millan
On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 03:48:26PM +, Andrew Suffield wrote: On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 11:40:11PM +1100, Jamie Wilkinson wrote: There are already several forks of the Linux kernel in Debian anyway. Robert wishes to attempt to unify them, does that not grant him use of the name 'linux'?

Re: Bug#219582: ITP: linux -- Linux 2.4 kernel

2003-11-12 Thread Robert Millan
On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 05:14:02PM +0100, Eike Sauer wrote: Robert Millan schrieb: On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 02:17:10PM +0100, Eike Sauer wrote: Robert Millan schrieb: I don't see why. I have a bunch of resources to find a solution for this trivial bug. [...] I didn't want to imply

Re: ITP: 1-mb-random-data -- one megabyte of pseudo-random data

2003-11-12 Thread Robert Millan
[ CCing debian-hurd ] Hi Joey, On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 01:08:55AM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: 1-mb-random-data Version : 1 Upstream Author : entropy * URL : /dev/urandom * License : ? (may violate various

Re: radiusd-freeradius history and future

2003-11-12 Thread Paul Hampson
On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 02:07:27AM +0100, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 02:02:49PM -0500, Matt Zimmerman wrote: On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 11:52:00AM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote: The packages at http://www.tbble.com/freeradius/ will be sponsored into the

Re: Bug#219582: ITP: linux -- Linux 2.4 kernel

2003-11-12 Thread Robert Millan
On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 03:29:04PM +, Colin Watson wrote: Either satisfies the first part of my question, but at least your second option doesn't satisfy the second part of my question. I'll repeat: without leaving old System.map junk around for eternity When would you clean up the

Re: Closing. (Was: Re: Bug#219582: ITP: linux -- Linux 2.4 kernel)

2003-11-12 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 00:23, Zenaan Harkness wrote: On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 22:31, Robert Millan wrote: On Fri, Nov 07, 2003 at 02:37:35PM +0100, Robert Millan wrote: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: linux Version : 2.4.22 Upstream Author : Linus

Re: Bug#220401: ITP: linux-experimental -- Linux 2.4 kernel [EXPERIMENTAL PACKAGE]

2003-11-12 Thread Jesus Climent
On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 12:36:27PM +0100, Robert Millan wrote: Upstream Author : Linus Torvalds [EMAIL PROTECTED] and others, see: He no longer works for transmeta. Should be changed? J -- Jesus Climent info:www.pumuki.org Unix SysAdm|Linux User

Re: Security liabilities (Re: radiusd-freeradius history and future)

2003-11-12 Thread Paul Hampson
On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 07:44:01PM -0500, Matt Zimmerman wrote: On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 09:18:38AM +1100, Paul Hampson wrote: On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 04:30:50PM -0500, Matt Zimmerman wrote: CAN-2001-1376 and CAN-2001-1377 made the rounds last Spring, with advisories from Red Hat,

Re: status of Progeny projects

2003-11-12 Thread Eike Sauer
Peter Zoeller schrieb: I have been long time user of linux and I find the greatest weakness to be the ability to easily install applications which seems to be the intent of this group. I allways found it less easy to - go to mozilla website - find the appropriate binary - download it - run

Re: Closing. (Was: Re: Bug#219582: ITP: linux -- Linux 2.4 kernel)

2003-11-12 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 22:31, Robert Millan wrote: On Fri, Nov 07, 2003 at 02:37:35PM +0100, Robert Millan wrote: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: linux Version : 2.4.22 Upstream Author : Linus Torvalds [EMAIL PROTECTED] and others, see:

Re: radiusd-freeradius history and future

2003-11-12 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Paul Hampson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cistron begat FreeRADIUS. FreeRADIUS is certainly actively maintained upstream. xtRADIUS is also begat of Cistron. I'd assumed that Cistron is dead upstream too, and xtRADIUS active. Cistron radius is not dead. It's just in

Re: Bug#220401: ITP: linux-experimental -- Linux 2.4 kernel [EXPERIMENTAL PACKAGE]

2003-11-12 Thread Francesco P. Lovergine
On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 02:31:17PM +0100, Jesus Climent wrote: On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 12:36:27PM +0100, Robert Millan wrote: Upstream Author : Linus Torvalds [EMAIL PROTECTED] and others, see: He no longer works for transmeta. Should be changed? [EMAIL PROTECTED] is ok now. --

Re: POSIX capabilities patch

2003-11-12 Thread Francesco P. Lovergine
On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 07:11:47PM -0700, Hans Fugal wrote: In order to get realtime capabilities, jackd can be run with a suid wrapper (jackstart), instead of being run as root, if the following patch is applied to the kernel: It has implication for libcap* packages too, doesn't it? --

Re: Bug#220401: ITP: linux-experimental -- Linux 2.4 kernel [EXPERIMENTAL PACKAGE]

2003-11-12 Thread Jorge Bernal
On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 02:31:17PM +0100, Jesus Climent wrote: On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 12:36:27PM +0100, Robert Millan wrote: Upstream Author : Linus Torvalds [EMAIL PROTECTED] and others, see: He no longer works for transmeta. Should be changed? s/transmeta.com/osdl.org/ J --

Re: POSIX capabilities patch

2003-11-12 Thread Hans Fugal
* Daniel Jacobowitz [Tue, 11 Nov 2003 at 22:18 -0500] I would want considerably more information on the security implications of allowing CAP_SETPCAP than either of those documents provides, if I were you. The POSIX capability code is notoriously subtle and prone to anger. Which is why I

Re: POSIX capabilities patch

2003-11-12 Thread Hans Fugal
* Francesco P. Lovergine [Wed, 12 Nov 2003 at 14:48 +0100] It has implication for libcap* packages too, doesn't it? I would assume so. -- Hans Fugal | De gustibus non disputandum est. http://hans.fugal.net/ | Debian, vim, mutt, ruby, text, gpg http://gdmxml.fugal.net/ |

Re: Common SSL CA Certificate Directory

2003-11-12 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 08:17:38PM -0600, Jerry Haltom wrote: Does Debian by Policy have a standard directory to store Certificate Authority certificates? I've run into the need to incorporate a certificate into a number of services on my system: web browsers, email clients, email servers,

Re: gimp1.2: gimp package suggest non-free software

2003-11-12 Thread Norbert Tretkowski
* Mathieu Roy wrote: Fabian Fagerholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] a tapoté : [...] Note, no mention of Suggests. No mention is not necessarily approval. It may be just something forgot. That's why Tollef suggests to discuss this on -policy. -- - nobse

Re: Bug#220363: gimp1.2: gimp package suggest non-free software

2003-11-12 Thread Ben Gertzfield
On Nov 11, 2003, at 11:00 PM, Mathieu Roy wrote: Installed the gimp, I got a message suggesting me to install gimp1.2-nonfree Discussion aside, this is a nonissue, since the gimp1.2-nonfree package is gone in unstable. I would very much like to close this bug. Does this solve this issue to

Re: POSIX capabilities patch

2003-11-12 Thread Hans Fugal
* Francesco P. Lovergine [Wed, 12 Nov 2003 at 14:48 +0100] It has implication for libcap* packages too, doesn't it? From libcap2's README.Debian: This library should be used in conjunction with the kernel patches from

Re: gimp1.2: gimp package suggest non-free software

2003-11-12 Thread Ben Gertzfield
On Nov 12, 2003, at 1:27 AM, Mathieu Roy wrote: So you confirm what I thought (yes, I checked this page before): - the support for GIF creation inside the main gimp package, in main, has been removed in favor of a package in non-free, that provide the same functionality (plus patented

Re: Bug#220363: gimp1.2: gimp package suggest non-free software

2003-11-12 Thread Mathieu Roy
Ben Gertzfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] a tapoté : On Nov 11, 2003, at 11:00 PM, Mathieu Roy wrote: Installed the gimp, I got a message suggesting me to install gimp1.2-nonfree Discussion aside, this is a nonissue, since the gimp1.2-nonfree package is gone in unstable. I would very much like to

Re: gimp1.2: gimp package suggest non-free software

2003-11-12 Thread Eike Sauer
Ben Gertzfield schrieb: As I mentioned in a response to the bug report, this is mostly a nonissue, since the LZW patent has expired in the US and I've merged the -nonfree package back into the main package in the unstable Debian distribution. As far as I know(*), the patent is still valid in

Re: Bug#220289: general: make a new section: gis, for Geographic Information System packages

2003-11-12 Thread Simon Richter
Hi, Debian needs a new Packages section, named gis, or perhaps geography or cartography, to prevent the mapping related packages from being scattered in sections graphics and science, and misc, etc.? as at present. I'd consider this section much too special. Why not sort out which

Re: gimp1.2: gimp package suggest non-free software

2003-11-12 Thread Ben Gertzfield
On Nov 12, 2003, at 7:38 AM, Eike Sauer wrote: As far as I know(*), the patent is still valid in Europe and Japan until mid 2004. Shouldn't this matter for an international project? This is true, I believe. Whether or not the main GIMP source (distributed in main) is even allowed in Europe and

Re: Bug#219959: ITP: mozilla-locale-eu -- Mozilla Basque Language Package

2003-11-12 Thread Jordi Mallach
On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 04:59:45PM -0500, Joe Drew wrote: The mozilla-locale* packages need some uniformity to their short (and maybe long, I haven't looked) descriptions. (Mozilla $LANG Language Package, Mozilla $LANG language add-on, Mozilla $LANG language/region pack are all examples)

Re: Bug#219942: ITP: zope-textindexng2 -- Fulltext index for Zope

2003-11-12 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003, Igor Stroh wrote: How about mentioning ZCatalog in some way? Any suggestions to enhance my latest version: This is the new full text index for Zope objects and is the most feature-complete solution for full text indexing under Zope. . TextIndexNG will live happily as

Re: radiusd-freeradius history and future

2003-11-12 Thread Javier Fernndez-Sanguino Pea
On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 12:19:02AM +1100, Paul Hampson wrote: On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 02:07:27AM +0100, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: Maybe I'm mistaken, but the rpm spec file seems to use a 'radiusd' user whileas the Debian rules package does not. I would be more confident with

Re: gimp1.2: gimp package suggest non-free software

2003-11-12 Thread Mathieu Roy
Eike Sauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] a tapoté : Ben Gertzfield schrieb: As I mentioned in a response to the bug report, this is mostly a nonissue, since the LZW patent has expired in the US and I've merged the -nonfree package back into the main package in the unstable Debian distribution. As far

Re: gimp1.2: gimp package suggest non-free software

2003-11-12 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 12:41:10PM +0100, Roberto Suarez Soto wrote: Sure, keep lowering the quality of Debian in matter of freedom, there's no matter discussing that. I don't see how making more packages available to our users is lowering the quality of Debian in matter of freedom.

Re: radiusd-freeradius history and future

2003-11-12 Thread Andreas Metzler
On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 03:36:40PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote: On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 13:47, Matt Zimmerman wrote: [...] unix_chkpwd is a reasonable solution to this. One possible solution to this is to have a special GID for non-root programs which are allowed to check passwords. I would be

Re: Bug#220401: ITP: linux-experimental -- Linux 2.4 kernel [EXPERIMENTAL PACKAGE]

2003-11-12 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
* Package name: linux-experimental I really don't care either way, but would you consider using kernel-linux-whatever instead? Just for consistency's sake. As someone else said, eventually there will be a kernel-freebsd or kernel-netbsd, and having an uniform scheme to call these

Re: gimp1.2: gimp package suggest non-free software

2003-11-12 Thread Riku Voipio
On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 12:10:02PM +0100, Mathieu Roy wrote: Apparently you forget about a specific part of the Social Contract. (Our Priorities are Our Users and Free Software...) I have a creepy feeling that you are not wearing a user hat but rather a hat of an organisation with a specific

Re: radiusd-freeradius history and future

2003-11-12 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 05:23:09PM +0100, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: It does adduser freerad shadow on first installation, but not after that (on the advice of Steve Langasek) to allow the local authentication code to work, and to give the admin the freedom to disable this for

Re: gimp1.2: gimp package suggest non-free software

2003-11-12 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:27:10 +0100, Mathieu Roy [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Fabian Fagerholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] a tapoté : On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 10:53, Mathieu Roy wrote: Suggests are ok, Recommends and Depends are not ok. If you disagree with this, please discuss it on -policy, it's not a

Re: gimp1.2: gimp package suggest non-free software

2003-11-12 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 09:25:23AM +0100, Mathieu Roy wrote: Do you really think that I'm the only person to find UNACCEPTABLE that a package in mail suggests packages in non-free, which ARE NOT PART OF DEBIAN? Packages are free to suggest whatever the maintainer wishes; I wouldn't even

Re: Bug#220401: ITP: linux-experimental -- Linux 2.4 kernel [EXPERIMENTAL PACKAGE]

2003-11-12 Thread Chad Walstrom
On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 11:26:26AM -0600, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: * Package name: linux-experimental I really don't care either way, but would you consider using kernel-linux-whatever instead? Just for consistency's sake. As someone else said, eventually there will be a

Re: Security liabilities (Re: radiusd-freeradius history and future)

2003-11-12 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 07:44:01PM -0500, Matt Zimmerman wrote: This is exactly the kind of situation I don't want going forward...there is so much neglected software in Debian that bugs like these sometimes go unnoticed, or even if they are noticed, the maintainer doesn't care enough about

Re: gimp1.2: gimp package suggest non-free software

2003-11-12 Thread Eike Sauer
Mathieu Roy schrieb: As far I know, there are still no patent for software in Europe, whatever an European institution know to fail to comply to European rules may do. Neither GIF nor LZW is software, though. The patent is about the LZW compression algorithm. Ciao, Eike

Re: Bug#220401: ITP: linux-experimental -- Linux 2.4 kernel [EXPERIMENTAL PACKAGE]

2003-11-12 Thread Robert Millan
On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 11:26:26AM -0600, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: * Package name: linux-experimental I really don't care either way, but would you consider using kernel-linux-whatever instead? I considered it, but it's redundant and unnecessary. I'll stick with the name choosed by

Re: gimp1.2: gimp package suggest non-free software

2003-11-12 Thread Eike Sauer
Ben Gertzfield schrieb: good question. How do we deal with this situation for other source projects that contain things like encryption that are outlawed in countries X, Y, and Z but OK in the US? Establish non-non-US? ;o) Ciao, Eike

Re: Bug#220289: general: make a new section: gis, for Geographic Information System packages

2003-11-12 Thread Eike Sauer
Hi! Simon Richter schrieb: How about science/geography? Establishing subsections? Or as a section name? Either way, we should use science/math, science/pysics, science/biology, science/whatever... as well then. I think geographyco neatly fits into the current science section. Ciao,

Re: gimp1.2: gimp package suggest non-free software

2003-11-12 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 07:37:58PM +0200, Riku Voipio wrote: 4) Patch apt-listchanges so that id doesn't mail about suggestions on packages that are not available. apt-listchanges neither knows nor cares about suggests or recommends. -- - mdz

Re: radiusd-freeradius history and future

2003-11-12 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 08:35:53AM +1100, Paul Hampson wrote: On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 03:23:24PM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote: On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 08:00:40AM +1100, Paul Hampson wrote: PostgreSQL requires license changes, and I've not had much luck buiding impetus for this, nor even

Re: Bug#215103: ITP: gmasqdialer -- gtk/gnome client for masqdialer server

2003-11-12 Thread Daniel E. Markle
On Fri, 2003-10-10 at 21:04, Joe Drew wrote: Description : gtk/gnome client for masqdialer server How about client for masqdialer? The problem with calling it just that is there are many more clients for masqdialer than just this one, like the qt/kde client, the cli client, the java

Re: Bug#220401: ITP: linux-experimental -- Linux 2.4 kernel [EXPERIMENTAL PACKAGE]

2003-11-12 Thread Matthew Garrett
Robert Millan wrote: There's no consistency in that, since FreeBSD and NetBSD are not kernels. Robert, your (frankly autistic) worldview worries me. What do you believe would be in a freebsd-kernel or netbsd-kernel package? What do you believe would be in a linux-kernel package? When someone

Re: ftpmaster accepts packages that have been rejected a few days ago

2003-11-12 Thread Josip Rodin
On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 11:29:07AM +, Daniel Silverstone wrote: We have procedures in place to handle all this, perhaps it's time you learnt to use those, instead of whining about things which aren't even the case. No way, man. We simply have to have people repeat the same fodder on

Re: Closing. (Was: Re: Bug#219582: ITP: linux -- Linux 2.4 kernel)

2003-11-12 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 12:23:44AM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: I for one _would_ appreciate having a debian-standard linux package. kernel-source-*, kernel-image-*, kernel-headers-* -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Andrew Suffield : :' : http://www.debian.org/ | `. `'

Re: gimp1.2: gimp package suggest non-free software

2003-11-12 Thread Adam Heath
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003, Mathieu Roy wrote: 2) Do you have any valid proof of what you claim? Please, avoid being a liar, this is a very bad attitude. Keep your personal feeling out of this mailing-list, I do not give a toss about it and I think that noone else does. A liar? You have a

Re: gimp1.2: gimp package suggest non-free software

2003-11-12 Thread Adam Heath
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003, Mathieu Roy wrote: I think this is a serious bug: the functionality of the free version has been lowered to promote patent emcumbered package. Patented software isn't really non-free. Search the list archives.

Re: gimp1.2: gimp package suggest non-free software

2003-11-12 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 01:28:20PM -0500, Matt Zimmerman wrote: On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 09:25:23AM +0100, Mathieu Roy wrote: Do you really think that I'm the only person to find UNACCEPTABLE that a package in mail suggests packages in non-free, which ARE NOT PART OF DEBIAN? Packages

sarge release

2003-11-12 Thread martin f krafft
I apologise if this is covered elsewhere, I am currently totally swamped and can't afford too much time for Debian. I am going to be away from my machine(s) starting 22 Nov until the middle of December. I currently have 1 RC bug and several other bugs against my packages. If sarge's release will

Re: Bug#220401: ITP: linux-experimental -- Linux 2.4 kernel [EXPERIMENTAL PACKAGE]

2003-11-12 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi Robert, On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 07:23:35PM +0100, Robert Millan wrote: On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 11:26:26AM -0600, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: * Package name: linux-experimental I really don't care either way, but would you consider using kernel-linux-whatever instead? I

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