Re: ITP: cddb.bundle -- CDDB Bundle for GNUstep

2004-10-06 Thread Graham Wilson
On Tue, Oct 05, 2004 at 07:40:06PM -0800, D. Starner wrote: I just installed the textedit.app package; it pulled in a few GNUstep libraries, but not a complete desktop environment. Do the GNUstep libs still start a demon at startup? Last time I checked, they did, instead of starting them

Re: Bug#259400: How to a user can add menu entry for GNOME ?

2004-10-06 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 6 Oct 2004, Miles Bader wrote: Marc Dequ«²nes (Duck) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: BTW, if i'm not dead for GNOME 2.10, custom Debian menu is gonna die, as it is a bunch of unbrowseable nightmare stuff. IMHO this would be a very bad move to remove the menu which looks the same on all user

Bug#275133: ITP: libimage-base-bundle-perl

2004-10-06 Thread Don Armstrong
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Package: libimage-base-bundle-perl Description: modules for loading, saving and creating xpm and xbm images A set of perl modules for loading, saving, and creating xpm and xbm images. Contains the following modules: . Image::Base Image::Xpm

Re: ITP: cddb.bundle -- CDDB Bundle for GNUstep

2004-10-06 Thread D. Starner
I am not sure what you mean by startup. When Linux boots up. When the libraries were loaded, they started a few daemons, but, I believe KDE and GNOME libraries do the same thing. Again, how is GNUstep any different in this regard than the other desktop environments? At one point in time,

Re: Bug#274957: ITP: susv3 -- Fetch and install SUSv3 documentation

2004-10-06 Thread Ben Pfaff
Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why is this document useful for offline reading and not a few billion others? (And where's that package of the Finnish constituition we were promised a few years back?!) Many parts of Debian intend conformance with SUSv3, which makes it more important

Re: Updating scanners and filters in Debian stable (3.1)

2004-10-06 Thread Frank Küster
Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FWIW, I think that every upload to the security archive should be accompanied by a security advisory. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the security team felt that uploads that don't merit security advisories were an inappropriate use of their archive.

Bug#275149: ITP: dictem -- Dict client for emacs

2004-10-06 Thread Zhenja Kaluta
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: dictem Version : 0.0.1 Upstream Author : Aleksey Cheusov [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://www.mova.org/~cheusov/pub/dictem/ * License : GPL Description : Dict client for emacs Dictem implements all

possible mass bug filing: spamassassin 3

2004-10-06 Thread martin f krafft
Hi folks, Spamassassin 3 is finally in unstable. Thanks to Duncan (and possibly others involved)! If you'd be so kind as to refer to #274993, I think we have a problem. A number of packages (see the bug report) depend on spamassassin, but some are not going to work with version 3, which changed

Re: possible mass bug filing: spamassassin 3

2004-10-06 Thread Richard Atterer
On Wed, Oct 06, 2004 at 11:52:04AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: If you'd be so kind as to refer to #274993, I think we have a problem. A number of packages (see the bug report) depend on spamassassin, but some are not going to work with version 3, which changed the API considerably. The

Re: possible mass bug filing: spamassassin 3

2004-10-06 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 06 Oct 2004, martin f krafft wrote: b. provide a new version that can interface with spamassassin 3. Just for the record, current amavisd-new can talk to spamassassin 3, even if not perfectly (chroots needs some... tweaking). As for the bugs, go ahead. spamassassin 2 is pretty much

Re: Re: ITP: cddb.bundle -- CDDB Bundle for GNUstep

2004-10-06 Thread Jeff Teunissen
Miles Bader wrote: Jeff Teunissen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For me, I don't want GNUstep in the names of my programs because I am not connected to GNUstep and don't want to be. It is just a couple of libraries that I use to write my apps -- you wouldn't put GTK+ in the name of your apps,

Re: possible mass bug filing: spamassassin 3

2004-10-06 Thread Francesco P. Lovergine
On Wed, Oct 06, 2004 at 11:52:04AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: Hi folks, Spamassassin 3 is finally in unstable. Thanks to Duncan (and possibly others involved)! Just for record, I and a few other people removed spamassassin 3 on my workstation due to performace problems. It is really a

Re: possible mass bug filing: spamassassin 3

2004-10-06 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Francesco P. Lovergine [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004.10.06.1418 +0200]: Just for record, I and a few other people removed spamassassin 3 on my workstation due to performace problems. It is really a memory and cpu hog. I have to confirm. -- Please do not CC me when replying to lists; I

Re: possible mass bug filing: spamassassin 3

2004-10-06 Thread Andreas Barth
* Francesco P. Lovergine ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [041006 14:20]: On Wed, Oct 06, 2004 at 11:52:04AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: Spamassassin 3 is finally in unstable. Thanks to Duncan (and possibly others involved)! Just for record, I and a few other people removed spamassassin 3 on my

Re: possible mass bug filing: spamassassin 3

2004-10-06 Thread Jesus Climent
On Wed, Oct 06, 2004 at 02:32:09PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: If this is not solved, we really should consider to re-introduce spamassassin 2 as spamassassin, and the version 3 as spamassassin3. Or we should not consider it. In such case 2.64 will become obsolete even faster than 2.20 did

Re: possible mass bug filing: spamassassin 3

2004-10-06 Thread Francesco P. Lovergine
On Wed, Oct 06, 2004 at 02:40:47PM +0200, Jesus Climent wrote: On Wed, Oct 06, 2004 at 02:32:09PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: If this is not solved, we really should consider to re-introduce spamassassin 2 as spamassassin, and the version 3 as spamassassin3. Or we should not consider

Re: possible mass bug filing: spamassassin 3

2004-10-06 Thread Andreas Barth
* Francesco P. Lovergine ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [041006 15:05]: On Wed, Oct 06, 2004 at 02:40:47PM +0200, Jesus Climent wrote: On Wed, Oct 06, 2004 at 02:32:09PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: Just for record, I and a few other people removed spamassassin 3 on my workstation due to performace

Re: Mail problem (messages lost) at debian.org

2004-10-06 Thread Florian Weimer
* Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo: Here is some kind of explanation: http://www.tribulaciones.org/blog/computers/ext3-performance_27-09-2004.html The most common performance issue with ext3 file systems is caused by software that accesses files in the order returned by readdir. Has this been ruled

Re: Mail problem (messages lost) at debian.org

2004-10-06 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
On Wed, Oct 06, 2004 at 03:12:33PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: The most common performance issue with ext3 file systems is caused by software that accesses files in the order returned by readdir. Has this been ruled out? What other, sane alternatives are there? Should the list be sorted by

FYI: lmbench results (with and without kernel preemption) for L inux 2.6.8-rc4 on MPC 8275 (PQ2FADS-VR) ?

2004-10-06 Thread Povolotsky, Alexander
Would anybody at Debian be interested to discuss my lmbench results attached below (comparing vanilla Linux 2.6..8-rc4 kernel with and without kernel preemption option running on PQ2FADS-VR with MPC 8275) ? Thanks -Original Message- From: Povolotsky, Alexander Sent:

Will Debian's native PowerPC compiler run on vanilla Linux 2.6.8-rc4 on MPC 8275 (PQ2FADS-VR) ?

2004-10-06 Thread Povolotsky, Alexander
Hi, Will Debian's native PowerPC compiler (similar to gcc version ?) run on vanillarLinux 2.6.8-rc4 on MPC 8275 (PQ2FADS-VR) ? Also does Debian have a PowerPC perl package ? and would it run on vanillarLinux 2.6.8-rc4 on MPC 8275 (PQ2FADS-VR) ? Also did anybody at Debian tried running Cerberus

Re: possible mass bug filing: spamassassin 3

2004-10-06 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Oct 06, Andreas Barth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, but the basic problem I'm speaking about has nothing to do with volatile - but just that requiring substancially more memory might be a bad idea. We still have inn1 and inn2 parallel (and I'm a happy user of inn1), for similar reasons.

Re: Bug#274923: ITP: wnpp -- C++ library for robust numerical and geometric computation

2004-10-06 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Joachim Reichel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Uups, I missed that I might have to change the name of the library itself. Or is it possible to have a package named libcore++1 containing libraries libcore.so.1? (If yes, there is still the problem that a quite generic (file)name is used.) Unless

Re: possible mass bug filing: spamassassin 3

2004-10-06 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Oct 06, 2004 at 11:52:04AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: If you'd be so kind as to refer to #274993, I think we have a problem. A number of packages (see the bug report) depend on spamassassin, but some are not going to work with version 3, which changed the API considerably. The

Re: Mail problem (messages lost) at debian.org

2004-10-06 Thread Florian Weimer
* Steinar H. Gunderson: On Wed, Oct 06, 2004 at 03:12:33PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: The most common performance issue with ext3 file systems is caused by software that accesses files in the order returned by readdir. Has this been ruled out? What other, sane alternatives are there?

Re: possible mass bug filing: spamassassin 3

2004-10-06 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004.10.06.1616 +0200]: This is backwards. The conflicts must be added in spamassassin in order that we don't forget to remove said other packages from sarge if necessary. That prevents SA from entering Sarge. I say: remove all the others from Sarge

Installed-Size and block size

2004-10-06 Thread Andre Majorel
Is the Installed-Size field supposed to be computed for a specific block size, or can I just go with a usual block size like 4k ? -- André Majorel URL:http://www.teaser.fr/~amajorel/ Do not use this account for regular correspondance. See the URL above for contact information.

Redirections and noclobber

2004-10-06 Thread Frank Küster
Hi, in bug #275140, I was made aware of a problem with the handling of tempfiles in tetex's maintainer scripts, and it seems to be a general problem. Basically, we do tempfile=`mktemp` echo something $tempfile and this will fail if the noclobber option is set in the executing shell, because

Re: Re: ITP: cddb.bundle -- CDDB Bundle for GNUstep

2004-10-06 Thread Steve Greenland
On 06-Oct-04, 06:41 (CDT), Jeff Teunissen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And developers writing with GNUstep recognize the same thing. The difference is that we *have* to give enough information about an app using only two pieces of information -- the name of the app and its icon. *Have* to? Why?

Re: Installed-Size and block size

2004-10-06 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Andre Majorel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is the Installed-Size field supposed to be computed for a specific block size, or can I just go with a usual block size like 4k ? Do not try to compute Installed-Size by hand - dpkg-gencontrol will do it for you correctly. That is, unless you have a

Re: possible mass bug filing: spamassassin 3

2004-10-06 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is backwards. The conflicts must be added in spamassassin in order that we don't forget to remove said other packages from sarge if necessary. Won't work, at least not by itself. Since we expect the other packages to sooner or later be updated to

Re: ITP: cddb.bundle -- CDDB Bundle for GNUstep

2004-10-06 Thread Tilo Schwarz
On Monday 04 October 2004 20:23, Frank Küster wrote: Hi, could you do me the favor of producing readable mails, i.e. with empty lines between text and quotes, and sensible line lengths? Gürkan Sengün [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frank, Build-Depends: debhelper (= 4.0.0),

Re: Installed-Size and block size

2004-10-06 Thread Andre Majorel
On 2004-10-06 16:09 +0100, Henning Makholm wrote: Scripsit Andre Majorel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is the Installed-Size field supposed to be computed for a specific block size, or can I just go with a usual block size like 4k ? Do not try to compute Installed-Size by hand - dpkg-gencontrol will

Re: Redirections and noclobber

2004-10-06 Thread Bill Allombert
On Wed, Oct 06, 2004 at 05:02:00PM +0200, Frank Küster wrote: Hi, in bug #275140, I was made aware of a problem with the handling of tempfiles in tetex's maintainer scripts, and it seems to be a general problem. Basically, we do tempfile=`mktemp` echo something $tempfile and this

Re: possible mass bug filing: spamassassin 3

2004-10-06 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
On Wed, Oct 06, 2004 at 04:33:37PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: I say: remove all the others from Sarge unless or until they comply with SA 3. OK, so you want to remove exim4 from sarge, thus breaking installation altogether? I fail to see yours and Adrian's rationale for why spamassassin

Re: Updating scanners and filters in Debian stable (3.1)

2004-10-06 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Oct 05, 2004 at 12:08:42PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: Stephen Gran [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am under the impression that 'normal procedures' does not involve updating the application to catch new threats. If I'm wrong, then there

Re: possible mass bug filing: spamassassin 3

2004-10-06 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* martin f krafft | What do you think? API changed generally means you bump soname. Why not for SA as well. Also, SA3 is useless, as it eats about half a gig of RAM on my system. Per child. -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user

Re: Installed-Size and block size

2004-10-06 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Andre Majorel [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 2004-10-06 16:09 +0100, Henning Makholm wrote: Do not try to compute Installed-Size by hand - dpkg-gencontrol will do it for you correctly. For my enlightenment, what does dpkg-gencontrol do that is more correct than summing st_blocks ? Use the

Re: Installed-Size and block size

2004-10-06 Thread Steve Greenland
On 06-Oct-04, 11:06 (CDT), Andre Majorel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I only use dpkg-architecture and dpkg-deb -b. Everything under DEBIAN/ is generated by hand. Why? The tools are there, and have been for a long time. I've been with Debian since 0.9x, and I don't think I ever wrote the final

Re: Updating scanners and filters in Debian stable (3.1)

2004-10-06 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Thomas Bushnell BSG said: Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: FWIW, I think that every upload to the security archive should be accompanied by a security advisory. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the security team felt that uploads that don't merit security

Re: possible mass bug filing: spamassassin 3

2004-10-06 Thread Adam Majer
Tollef Fog Heen wrote: * martin f krafft | What do you think? API changed generally means you bump soname. Why not for SA as well. Also, SA3 is useless, as it eats about half a gig of RAM on my system. Per child. After running for a little while, PID USER PR NI VIRT RES

Re: possible mass bug filing: spamassassin 3

2004-10-06 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Adam Majer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004.10.06.1934 +0200]: After running for a little while, [...] I wouldn't say it uses half a gig of ram. Something else is going on.. I had -m10 passed to spamd for 2.64. When I upgraded, I left that in place. I almost hosed a server that went up to

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Re: possible mass bug filing: spamassassin 3

2004-10-06 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 06 Oct 2004, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Adam Majer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004.10.06.1934 +0200]: After running for a little while, [...] I wouldn't say it uses half a gig of ram. Something else is going on.. I had -m10 passed to spamd for 2.64. When I upgraded, I left that

Re: possible mass bug filing: spamassassin 3

2004-10-06 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 06 Oct 2004, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: Also, SA3 is useless, as it eats about half a gig of RAM on my system. Per child. This is a ridiculous big RSS. What are you telling SA to do? Load 20MB of AWL and 20MB of Bayes data into memory? -- One disk to rule them all, One disk to find

Bug#275218: ITP: haskell-devscripts -- Tools to help Debian developers build Haskell packages

2004-10-06 Thread John Goerzen
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: haskell-devscripts Version : 0.5.0 Upstream Author : John Goerzen [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : N/A (will be maintained in Debian only) * License : GPL Description : Tools to help Debian developers build

Re: possible mass bug filing: spamassassin 3

2004-10-06 Thread Adam Majer
martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Adam Majer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004.10.06.1934 +0200]: After running for a little while, [...] I wouldn't say it uses half a gig of ram. Something else is going on.. I had -m10 passed to spamd for 2.64. When I upgraded, I left that in place.

Re: Redirections and noclobber

2004-10-06 Thread David Weinehall
On Wed, Oct 06, 2004 at 06:19:35PM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: On Wed, Oct 06, 2004 at 05:02:00PM +0200, Frank Küster wrote: Hi, in bug #275140, I was made aware of a problem with the handling of tempfiles in tetex's maintainer scripts, and it seems to be a general problem. Basically,

Re: possible mass bug filing: spamassassin 3

2004-10-06 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
On Wed, Oct 06, 2004 at 11:52:04AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: Hi folks, Spamassassin 3 is finally in unstable. Thanks to Duncan (and possibly others involved)! Well, I'm not at all convinced this is so good. Didn't the RMs say something about 'no major new upstream releases', in order to

Bug#274003: ITP: kmenc15 - An advanced Qt/KDE MEncoder frontend.

2004-10-06 Thread Oded Shimon
Package: wnpp Followup-For: Bug #274003 I have already completed a package myself for kmenc15. I am now looking for a Debian sponsor for my program. The package can be found at http://ares.penguinhosting.net/~ods15/kmenc15/kmenc15-0.01e.tar.gz

Re: possible mass bug filing: spamassassin 3

2004-10-06 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004.10.06.2023 +0200]: How much network latency do you have? If -m10 is helping you, you must be waiting on TCP/IP requests like crazy. I am not sure. A normal run via spamd takes about 3 seconds per message. At peak times, the

Re: Updating scanners and filters in Debian stable (3.1)

2004-10-06 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Stephen Gran [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I thought that 'issues related to the development of debian' was on topic for this list. It is not at all clear to me that this is a security issue, because outdated A/V software usually does not place the server it runs on at risk for compromise. We

Re: Updating scanners and filters in Debian stable (3.1)

2004-10-06 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Thomas Bushnell BSG [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004.10.06.2133 +0200]: I think (1) is true, and I think both (A) and (B) are true. I am not sure about (2), but I do understand why people are arguing for it. If they are correct, then it seems to me that the security archive is already an

Re: possible mass bug filing: spamassassin 3

2004-10-06 Thread Sven Mueller
Steinar H. Gunderson [u] wrote on 06/10/2004 18:29: On Wed, Oct 06, 2004 at 04:33:37PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: I say: remove all the others from Sarge unless or until they comply with SA 3. OK, so you want to remove exim4 from sarge, thus breaking installation altogether? ??? Since

Re: possible mass bug filing: spamassassin 3

2004-10-06 Thread Don Armstrong
On Wed, 06 Oct 2004, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004.10.06.1616 +0200]: This is backwards. The conflicts must be added in spamassassin in order that we don't forget to remove said other packages from sarge if necessary. That prevents SA from

Bug#275230: ITP: php4-pear-html -- Simple template API. Template system made for works with pear to support IT HTML

2004-10-06 Thread Polkan Garcia
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: php4-pear-html Version : 1.10.1 Upstream Author : Pierre-Alain Joye [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://pear.php.net/package/HTML_Template_IT/ * License : GPL Description : Simple template API. Template

Re: Updating scanners and filters in Debian stable (3.1)

2004-10-06 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Thomas Bushnell BSG said: Stephen Gran [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I thought that 'issues related to the development of debian' was on topic for this list. It is not at all clear to me that this is a security issue, because outdated A/V software usually does

Re: possible mass bug filing: spamassassin 3

2004-10-06 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Don Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004.10.06. +0200]: The major change that I'm aware of is the nonsensical change of 'hits' to 'score'[1] in the output. Just provide both 'hits' and 'score' and this particular problem will go away. [This was the major issue facing

Re: possible mass bug filing: spamassassin 3

2004-10-06 Thread Andreas Barth
* martin f krafft ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [041006 16:35]: also sprach Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004.10.06.1616 +0200]: This is backwards. The conflicts must be added in spamassassin in order that we don't forget to remove said other packages from sarge if necessary. That prevents SA

Re: possible mass bug filing: spamassassin 3

2004-10-06 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
On Wed, Oct 06, 2004 at 10:01:12PM +0200, Sven Mueller wrote: ??? Since when does exim4 use SA by default? AFAIK, you have to specifically configure it to use it. Right? If so, there should be no reason to remove it or for it to conflict with SA3. Well, if I dist-upgrade my mail server so a

Re: possible mass bug filing: spamassassin 3

2004-10-06 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Andreas Barth [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004.10.06.2234 +0200]: I guess spamassassin3 won't be added to sarge. Can you remember the upload of the latest kde to unstable, and the explicit NO from the release masters? Can you remember that already before that it was said no new upstream

Re: possible mass bug filing: spamassassin 3

2004-10-06 Thread Andreas Barth
* martin f krafft ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [041006 22:40]: also sprach Andreas Barth [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004.10.06.2234 +0200]: I guess spamassassin3 won't be added to sarge. Can you remember the upload of the latest kde to unstable, and the explicit NO from the release masters? Can you remember

Re: possible mass bug filing: spamassassin 3

2004-10-06 Thread Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo
El mi, 06-10-2004 a las 08:03 -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh escribi: On Wed, 06 Oct 2004, martin f krafft wrote: b. provide a new version that can interface with spamassassin 3. Just for the record, current amavisd-new can talk to spamassassin 3, even if not perfectly (chroots needs

Re: possible mass bug filing: spamassassin 3

2004-10-06 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Andreas Barth [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004.10.06.2244 +0200]: That can be done of course - as well as we have exim4 in addition to exim, or inn2 in addition to inn. But in this case, reverting the latest upload of spamassassin might be a good idea. I can't wait for Duncan to join in and

Re: Updating scanners and filters in Debian stable (3.1)

2004-10-06 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On 06 Oct 2004 12:33:42 -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Stephen Gran [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I thought that 'issues related to the development of debian' was on topic for this list. It is not at all clear to me that this is a security issue, because outdated A/V

Re: possible mass bug filing: spamassassin 3

2004-10-06 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Oct 06, Steinar H. Gunderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, if I dist-upgrade my mail server so a new spamassassin comes in, my mail setup breaks. Now, that is clearly broken, and an RC bug on some package. We are talking about unstable. -- ciao, | Marco | [8393 idbw1qdMcWarw]

Re: possible mass bug filing: spamassassin 3

2004-10-06 Thread Sven Mueller
Steinar H. Gunderson [u] wrote on 06/10/2004 22:37: On Wed, Oct 06, 2004 at 09:10:39PM +0200, Sven Mueller wrote: ??? Since when does exim4 use SA by default? AFAIK, you have to specifically configure it to use it. Right? If so, there should be no reason to remove it or for it to conflict with

Re: possible mass bug filing: spamassassin 3

2004-10-06 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 16:33:37 +0200, martin f krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: also sprach Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004.10.06.1616 +0200]: This is backwards. The conflicts must be added in spamassassin in order that we don't forget to remove said other packages from sarge if necessary.

Re: possible mass bug filing: spamassassin 3

2004-10-06 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004.10.06.2256 +0200]: Under your scheme, Sarge would be bereft of all the packages that build on SA that have not changed, at the cost of something that has shown all evidence of being flakey and not ready for prime time yet. My

Re: Updating scanners and filters in Debian stable (3.1)

2004-10-06 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
martin f krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think the problem is not so much whether s.d.o is the right place, but rather whether anti-virus stuff can go in there. Security fixes are backported to ensure no new features trickle in and to minimise changes. With AV software and the like, this

Re: Updating scanners and filters in Debian stable (3.1)

2004-10-06 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Stephen Gran [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What I (and it seems, others) would like to see is: 3) some other method to upgrade software that has to change rapidly to meet new classes of threats, even though these threats may not affect the machine running the software itself. This category

Re: possible mass bug filing: spamassassin 3

2004-10-06 Thread Andreas Barth
* Marco d'Itri ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [041006 23:05]: On Oct 06, Steinar H. Gunderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, if I dist-upgrade my mail server so a new spamassassin comes in, my mail setup breaks. Now, that is clearly broken, and an RC bug on some package. We are talking about

Re: Updating scanners and filters in Debian stable (3.1)

2004-10-06 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, while this may well be analogous, it is far from being the same thing, and I don't think the security team should be saddled with yet another task. I am happy to agree that the brunt of meeting the new work is upon the proposers of the

Re: Updating scanners and filters in Debian stable (3.1)

2004-10-06 Thread Andreas Barth
* Thomas Bushnell BSG ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [041006 23:25]: Unfortunately, most of what I have seen has been an attempt to have a new place that involves no actual backporting and publicity work, rather than volunteering to take that load on. Actually, I'm considering very much to pick the task

Re: Updating scanners and filters in Debian stable (3.1)

2004-10-06 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Thomas Bushnell BSG said: Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, while this may well be analogous, it is far from being the same thing, and I don't think the security team should be saddled with yet another task. I am happy to agree that the

Re: Updating scanners and filters in Debian stable (3.1)

2004-10-06 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Thomas Bushnell BSG said: Stephen Gran [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What I (and it seems, others) would like to see is: 3) some other method to upgrade software that has to change rapidly to meet new classes of threats, even though these threats may not affect

Re: Bug#274003: ITP: kmenc15 - An advanced Qt/KDE MEncoder frontend.

2004-10-06 Thread Oded Shimon
On Wednesday 06 October 2004 23:12, Sven Mueller wrote: Oded Shimon [u] wrote on 06/10/2004 20:33: I have already completed a package myself for kmenc15. I am now looking for a Debian sponsor for my program. The package can be found at

Re: possible mass bug filing: spamassassin 3

2004-10-06 Thread Duncan Findlay
On Wed, Oct 06, 2004 at 10:51:46PM +0200, Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo wrote: But the problem is that spamassassin 2 works in usual people MX systems (which usually is your older desktop) while SA3 has a big problem in that machines, making it unusable. And, BTW, since version 2.64 we have:

Re: possible mass bug filing: spamassassin 3

2004-10-06 Thread Duncan Findlay
On Wed, Oct 06, 2004 at 10:37:04PM +0200, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: On Wed, Oct 06, 2004 at 10:01:12PM +0200, Sven Mueller wrote: ??? Since when does exim4 use SA by default? AFAIK, you have to specifically configure it to use it. Right? If so, there should be no reason to remove it or

Re: possible mass bug filing: spamassassin 3

2004-10-06 Thread Duncan Findlay
On Wed, Oct 06, 2004 at 01:22:02PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: The major change that I'm aware of is the nonsensical change of 'hits' to 'score'[1] in the output. Just provide both 'hits' and 'score' and this particular problem will go away. [This was the major issue facing spamass-milter,

Re: possible mass bug filing: spamassassin 3

2004-10-06 Thread Duncan Findlay
On Wed, Oct 06, 2004 at 06:43:47PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: * martin f krafft | What do you think? API changed generally means you bump soname. Why not for SA as well. Also, SA3 is useless, as it eats about half a gig of RAM on my system. Per child. Umm... I'd like to see

Re: possible mass bug filing: spamassassin 3

2004-10-06 Thread Duncan Findlay
On Wed, Oct 06, 2004 at 11:52:04AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: I really think spamassassin 3 should make it into Sarge, if at all possible, and not be held up by depending packages which aren't up to speed. I'm currently inclined to leave 2.64 in sarge (as has been my intention ever since

Re: Updating scanners and filters in Debian stable (3.1)

2004-10-06 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Stephen Gran [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, the problem is that the procedure that we have is called backports.org, or private repositories. I agree that we also have a lack of an agreed upon maintenance strategy, but I respectfully disagree that we have either a team or an archive at

Re: Updating scanners and filters in Debian stable (3.1)

2004-10-06 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Stephen Gran [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hmm, I rather thought that several people, myself included, had offered to take on the work of doing what we thought was valuable, and you have been trying to push it off on the security team over strenuous objections that it is not their job. No, you

Re: Minutes fo DebConf5 IRC meeting of 20041003 at 20:00 UTC

2004-10-06 Thread Michael Banck
On Mon, Oct 04, 2004 at 10:31:49PM +1300, Martin Langhoff wrote: - recording talks on video is a problem and a big job; Martin the Argentinian living in New Zealand was interested in the issue (mooch) Did I hear someone call my name? ;) I am keen on organizing the video capture

Re: Re: ITP: cddb.bundle -- CDDB Bundle for GNUstep

2004-10-06 Thread Michael Banck
On Wed, Oct 06, 2004 at 07:41:03AM -0400, Jeff Teunissen wrote: Miles Bader wrote: Jeff Teunissen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For me, I don't want GNUstep in the names of my programs because I am not connected to GNUstep and don't want to be. It is just a couple of libraries that I use

installing TCP programs when RPC programs are running

2004-10-06 Thread Loïc Minier
Hi, Today, cupsys failed to start after its installation because a RPC service (rpc.statd) was already listening on TCP port 631. I wondered how portmap assigned such a port, and looked it up in glibc. portmap uses svctcp_create to create such a socket. svctcp_create calls

Re: ITP: cddb.bundle -- CDDB Bundle for GNUstep

2004-10-06 Thread Miles Bader
Jeff Teunissen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Many gnustep apps OTOH, use absurdly generic names, and I can only conclude that the developers do not think about mixed systems at all. I disagree in the first case, and you are incorrect in the second. What can I say? You claim this, but the

Accepted mysql-query-browser 1.0.7a-2 (i386 source all)

2004-10-06 Thread Adam Majer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 00:30:19 -0500 Source: mysql-query-browser Binary: mysql-query-browser mysql-query-browser-common Architecture: source i386 all Version: 1.0.7a-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Adam Majer [EMAIL

Accepted gnat-gdb 5.3.gnat.0.0.20030225-7 (i386 source all)

2004-10-06 Thread Ludovic Brenta
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2004 19:30:56 +0200 Source: gnat-gdb Binary: gnat-gdb gnat-gdb-doc Architecture: source i386 all Version: 5.3.gnat.0.0.20030225-7 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Ludovic Brenta [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Accepted abs-guide 3.0-1 (all source)

2004-10-06 Thread Matthias Klose
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2004 14:41:53 +0200 Source: abs-guide Binary: abs-guide Architecture: source all Version: 3.0-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Matthias Klose [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Matthias Klose [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Accepted libpod-sax-perl 0.14-4 (all source)

2004-10-06 Thread Jay Bonci
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 01:16:06 -0400 Source: libpod-sax-perl Binary: libpod-sax-perl Architecture: source all Version: 0.14-4 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Jay Bonci [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Jay Bonci [EMAIL

Accepted ripperx 2.6.1-3 (i386 source)

2004-10-06 Thread tony mancill
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 23:19:56 -0700 Source: ripperx Binary: ripperx Architecture: source i386 Version: 2.6.1-3 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: tony mancill [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: tony mancill [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Accepted libpod-simple-perl 3.02-1 (all source)

2004-10-06 Thread Jay Bonci
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 02:40:08 -0400 Source: libpod-simple-perl Binary: libpod-simple-perl Architecture: source all Version: 3.02-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Jay Bonci [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Jay Bonci [EMAIL

Accepted libterm-query-perl 2.0-8 (all source)

2004-10-06 Thread Jay Bonci
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 03:09:52 -0400 Source: libterm-query-perl Binary: libterm-query-perl Architecture: source all Version: 2.0-8 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Jay Bonci [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Jay Bonci [EMAIL

Accepted libsub-uplevel-perl 0.09-2 (all source)

2004-10-06 Thread Jay Bonci
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 03:06:39 -0400 Source: libsub-uplevel-perl Binary: libsub-uplevel-perl Architecture: source all Version: 0.09-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Jay Bonci [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Jay Bonci [EMAIL

Accepted libproc-invokeeditor-perl 0.02-3 (all source)

2004-10-06 Thread Jay Bonci
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 02:46:35 -0400 Source: libproc-invokeeditor-perl Binary: libproc-invokeeditor-perl Architecture: source all Version: 0.02-3 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Jay Bonci [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Jay

Accepted mailscanner 4.34.8-1 (all source)

2004-10-06 Thread Matthias Klose
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 08:06:13 +0200 Source: mailscanner Binary: mailscanner Architecture: source all Version: 4.34.8-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: high Maintainer: Matthias Klose [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Matthias Klose [EMAIL

Accepted lm-sensors-old 1:2.7.0-13 (i386 source all)

2004-10-06 Thread Aurelien Jarno
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 01:37:50 +0200 Source: lm-sensors-old Binary: lm-sensors-2.4.27-1-k6 lm-sensors-2.4.27-1-586tsc lm-sensors-source lm-sensors-2.4.27-1-k7 lm-sensors-2.4.27-1-686 lm-sensors-2.4.27-1-386 lm-sensors-2.4.27-1-k7-smp

Accepted i2c-old 1:2.7.0-13 (i386 source all)

2004-10-06 Thread Aurelien Jarno
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 01:31:01 +0200 Source: i2c-old Binary: i2c-source i2c-2.4.27-1-k6 i2c-2.4.27-1-k7-smp i2c-2.4.27-1-586tsc i2c-2.4.27-1-686-smp i2c-2.4.27-1-386 i2c-2.4.27-1-k7 i2c-2.4.27-1-686 Architecture: source i386 all Version:

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