* Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-11-12 23:40:57]:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 12:13:51 +1000, Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au
said:
On Fri, Nov 11, 2005 at 10:21:08PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
But instead, what I'm led to wonder is if this is really standing up
for our
Junichi Uekawa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
AFAIK apt-listbugs only displays open bugs, if the bug is closed
then it won't get displayed.
It will be displayed even when it's closed. It does have some
heuristics to avoid showing irrelevant bugs.
Ideally apt-listbugs needs
tags 338638 help
thanks
Hi all,
we just received a bug report that is caused by a buggy prerm script
in the package in sarge (it fails because it doesn't handle read-only
/usr/local properly). Is there any way to fix this, except documenting
it in the release notes?
And on a related thought,
hi frank,
On Sun, Nov 13, 2005 at 12:25:01PM +0100, Frank Küster wrote:
we just received a bug report that is caused by a buggy prerm script
in the package in sarge (it fails because it doesn't handle read-only
/usr/local properly). Is there any way to fix this, except documenting
it in the
On Nov 13, Eduard Bloch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I suggest changing the policy to reflect the reality. Using a wrapper
like MAKEDEV to maintain device nodes which use arbitrary choosen
major/minor numbers is just not very useful.
Sure, just close the bug if appropriate.
(Please remember
On Nov 13, Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I do stand behind my words; here are, chastizing the GFDL for
not being free, standing on the verge of the rowing GNU
documentation out of Debian, and yet, we blithely, though the
instrumentation of an annual Debian Developer
On Nov 13, Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au wrote:
Implicit in both your responses is that neither of you have any actual
reason to do so, other than ideology -- there's nothing you actually seem
to be itching to do that warrants a different license to the one I used.
I suppose that it's
#include hallo.h
* Marco d'Itri [Sat, Nov 12 2005, 12:42:07PM]:
Package: sl-modem-source
Version: 2.9.9d-7
Severity: serious
See policy 10.6: packages must use MAKEDEV instead of calling mknod.
I suggest changing the policy to reflect the reality. Using a wrapper
like MAKEDEV to maintain
#include hallo.h
* Eduard Bloch [Sun, Nov 13 2005, 10:17:55AM]:
Further, I expect from you as a carefull maintainer to write at least a
simple HOWTO for your fellows about how (exactly) to deal with
changes/transition to udev. You simply throw people into cold water.
Feel free to tell me that
On Nov 13, Thomas Bushnell BSG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think the best reason to ask or require contributors to licenses
their papers in a DFSG form is so that Debian can distribute the
papers as part of Debian.
I think this is an awful reason, considering that Debian already
contains too
On Nov 13, Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au wrote:
I'm not sure anyone thinks we couldn't /function/ without non-free,
I used to think we could do well without it (or at least we could in a
couple of years) because free software made non-free software unneeded,
then I changed my opinion when
* Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-11-12 20:42:39]:
Well, a conference that is not affiliated with Debian, such a
requirement is not tenable, that is true. But if such a conference
uses the Debian trademark, we can indeed ask that our core values,
as enshrined in our social
Scripsit Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED]
This is a conference for Debian development. By definition,
Debian is 100%free. Am I mistaken in assuming that people
contributing to Debian are already familiar with the social contract,
and have decided to conform to it?
You are
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 17:32:50 +1000, Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au
said:
On Sat, Nov 12, 2005 at 11:24:04PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
Several distros include non-free software, as long as it's
distributable.
Debian's one of them -- we just clearly separate out the non-free
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 13:59:08 +0100, Andreas Schuldei [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
* Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-11-12 20:42:39]:
Well, a conference that is not affiliated with Debian, such a
requirement is not tenable, that is true. But if such a conference
uses the Debian trademark,
On Fri, November 11, 2005 17:10, Christian Perrier wrote:
From what I know of him, he will take care of these Debian tasks as
soon as he'll be able to do sojust like any of us would after coming
back from a conference we were at as part of our paid work.
I think many other people would
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 13:43:07 +0100, Henning Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Scripsit Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED]
This is a conference for Debian development. By definition, Debian
is 100%free. Am I mistaken in assuming that people contributing to
Debian are already familiar with the
Sean Finney wrote:
hi frank,
On Sun, Nov 13, 2005 at 12:25:01PM +0100, Frank Küster wrote:
we just received a bug report that is caused by a buggy prerm script
in the package in sarge (it fails because it doesn't handle read-only
/usr/local properly). Is there any way to fix this, except
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 09:17:38 +0100, Andreas Schuldei [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
at the last debconf in Helsinki there were people from outside
debian giving talks, too. Hopefully we will have input from outside
even in the future.
Last time I looked, even our OS is full of contributions
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Florian Ragwitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* Package name: libquantum
Version : 0.2.4
Upstream Author : Copyright 2003-2005 Bjoern Butscher, Hendrik Weimer
* URL : http://www.enyo.de/libquantum/news.html
* License : GPL
Scripsit Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Our goal is to produce the best FREE operating system
possible; and a secondary goal is to convince people that when
information is free, all kinds of unintended collaboration occurs --
which may not even have been envisaged by the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) writes:
On Nov 13, Thomas Bushnell BSG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think the best reason to ask or require contributors to licenses
their papers in a DFSG form is so that Debian can distribute the
papers as part of Debian.
I think this is an awful reason,
On Nov 13, Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Case in point: Thanks to Colin Walter's liberal licensing of
his Debian packaging talk, I was able to give my local Linux users
group an excellent introduction to Debian (with full attribution, of
course); a non-free license
On Nov 13, Thomas Bushnell BSG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm sorry, I was under the impression that every package in Debian was
software. Are you confusing software and computer programs?
No, I just do not believe that this specious distinction is useful.
--
ciao,
Marco
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) writes:
On Nov 13, Thomas Bushnell BSG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm sorry, I was under the impression that every package in Debian was
software. Are you confusing software and computer programs?
No, I just do not believe that this specious distinction is
On Nov 13, Thomas Bushnell BSG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Are you saying that Debian has too much documentation? What is the
non-computer-program which we have too much of?
No, I am saying that debian has too many stuff which is not programs nor
their related documentation, like e-zines, books,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) writes:
On Nov 13, Thomas Bushnell BSG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Are you saying that Debian has too much documentation? What is the
non-computer-program which we have too much of?
No, I am saying that debian has too many stuff which is not programs nor
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On Fri, November 11, 2005 17:10, Christian Perrier wrote:
From what I know of him, he will take care of these Debian tasks as
soon as he'll be able to do sojust like any of us would after coming
back from a conference we were at
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 16:21:46 +0100, Marco d'Itri [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
On Nov 13, Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Case in point: Thanks to Colin Walter's liberal licensing of his
Debian packaging talk, I was able to give my local Linux users
group an excellent introduction to
On Nov 13, Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can you explain exactly how a CC copyleft-like license would have
been an obstacle?
Because it is being incorporated in a larger work: My
So it looks like you have issues with all licenses not compatible with
the one you choose,
On Nov 13, Thomas Bushnell BSG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It seems to me that the papers at a Debian conference are almost all
related to programs in Debian.
This still does not generally make them documentation.
Personally, I'd like to read the papers. It's a shame that Debian
can't
It seems to me that we have some responsibility for the licenses used
on these presentations.
It also seems to me that we should structure our approach to these
licenses similarly to the way we approach other license issues.
That is: we should encourage people to use a DFSG license, and we
On Sun, Nov 13, 2005 at 12:25:01PM +0100, Frank Küster [EMAIL PROTECTED] was
heard to say:
we just received a bug report that is caused by a buggy prerm script
in the package in sarge (it fails because it doesn't handle read-only
/usr/local properly). Is there any way to fix this, except
Hi all,
is Christopher L Cheeney submerged? There are new upstreamversions
of libvorbis and vorbis-tools available which fix a lot.
Elimar
--
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On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 18:52:05 +0100, Marco d'Itri [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
On Nov 13, Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can you explain exactly how a CC copyleft-like license would have
been an obstacle?
Because it is being incorporated in a larger work: My
So it looks like you have
On Tue, Nov 08, 2005 at 12:28:07AM +0100, Francesco Poli wrote:
On Mon, 7 Nov 2005 10:01:48 +0100 Andreas Schuldei wrote:
Fine Print Publication Rights
Debconf requires non-exclusive publication rights to papers,
presentations, and any additional handouts or audio/visual materials
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) writes:
Personally, I'd like to read the papers. It's a shame that Debian
can't distribute them to me.
Debian does not want, it's quite a different issue.
Debian does not want what? To distribute them? Hogwash. I'd be
happy to upload them.
--
To
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 14:15:20 -0500, David Nusinow [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
On Tue, Nov 08, 2005 at 12:28:07AM +0100, Francesco Poli wrote:
On Mon, 7 Nov 2005 10:01:48 +0100 Andreas Schuldei wrote:
Fine Print Publication Rights
Debconf requires non-exclusive publication rights to
On Sunday 13 November 2005 09:17, Eduard Bloch wrote:
* Marco d'Itri [Sat, Nov 12 2005, 12:42:07PM]:
Package: sl-modem-source
Version: 2.9.9d-7
Severity: serious
See policy 10.6: packages must use MAKEDEV instead of calling mknod.
I must agree with Mr. d'Itri in this case.
I suggest
Scripsit Thomas Bushnell BSG [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It seems to me that the papers at a Debian conference are almost all
related to programs in Debian.
You expect no contributions about release procedures, bug report
management, the NM process, dealing with disappearing maintainers,
models for
Scripsit David Nusinow [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debconf requires non-exclusive publication rights to papers,
presentations, and any additional handouts or audio/visual materials
used in conjunction with the presentation. The authors have the
freedom to pick a DFSG-free license for the papers
On Sun, Nov 13, 2005 at 10:13:31PM +0100, Henning Makholm wrote:
Scripsit David Nusinow [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debconf requires non-exclusive publication rights to papers,
presentations, and any additional handouts or audio/visual materials
used in conjunction with the presentation. The
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 11:28:41 +1000 Anthony Towns wrote:
On Sat, Nov 12, 2005 at 07:26:55PM +0100, Francesco Poli wrote:
[...]
I disagree with your calling licensing in a DFSG-free manner as
giving up rights: this seems to imply that releasing DFSG-free
works is something wrong or
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
There's one thing people are constantly overlooking here:
No, we are not.
Rember that 'having a key in the Debian keyring' is, for all practical
matters, equivalent to 'having root on all Debian installations'. A
That means one must only add keys
Hello,
During the implementation of build/import helpers for Eclipse plugins
(http://debian-eclipse.wfrag.org/), I've found that the CDBS (Common Debian
Build System) can be helpful in my case.
The problem is I can't find thorough documentation or some kind of How To
there I can find how to
O.S. == Otavio Salvador [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
O.S. Unfortunatelly I hadn't time to work on it anymore and major
O.S. of last work was did by Chris. Could you help with its
O.S. development?
Thanks for the response.
Unfortunately, as I seem to be running behind with my own
Eric == Eric Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Eric I wrote approx for exactly this purpose. It's now in
Eric testing.
Is a back port available for sarge? If not, how feasible would it be
to create on? Does it depend on anything not in sarge?
Thanks
--
Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Henning Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Scripsit Thomas Bushnell BSG [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It seems to me that the papers at a Debian conference are almost all
related to programs in Debian.
You expect no contributions about release procedures, bug report
management, the NM process, dealing
Russ == Russ Allbery [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Russ Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
* Find out what is required to keep AFS support working
(assuming I don't already have it).
Russ Well, what sort of AFS environment? The answer is different
Russ if you mean AFS using
Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Ideally that would be AFS environment that our users require.
However, I would be happy is that was AFS environment that will work
without recompilation of Debian packages.
Right now, the AFS packages in Debian will work with either native K4 or
with
Steve == Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Not only that, but it conflicts with key krb4 libraries
(libroken and libsl) IIRC.
Steve More likely: Conflicts/Replaces/Provides. I expect that if
Steve the Heimdal versions of libroken and libsl conflict with
Steve the
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Source: nymbaron
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Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 11:48:51 +0100
Source: tess
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Source: xerces27
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Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 20:47:35 +0100
Source: nurbs++
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