* Marc Haber [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-11-21 08:55:52]:
On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 11:29:19 +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I seriously hope the non-elected people blocking and slowing down
several important processes in Debian soon realize that there is a
problem and that it
2005/11/21, Henning Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
It can be considered bad from a technical viewpoint - as far as I
understand the master copy of the keyring is currently on a medium
that is under the keyring maintainer's direct physical control.
The obvious way of switching to team maintenance
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Fathi Boudra [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* Package name: pykdeextensions
Version : 0.3.0
Upstream Author : Simon Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* URL : http://www.simonzone.com/software/pykdeextensions
* License : GPL
Description
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Fathi Boudra [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* Package name: libpythonize
Version : 0.3.0
Upstream Author : Simon Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* URL : http://www.simonzone.com/software/pykdeextensions
* License : GPL
Description :
Hello,
I would need to have access to a sid chroot on sparc to build sbcl by hand,
but vore seems to be unreachable by me. The machine page [1] shows no
indication of problems, it is outdated?
Groetjes, Peter
1: http://db.debian.org/machines.cgi?host=vore
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Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Fathi Boudra [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* Package name: kde-guidance
Version : 0.4.0
Upstream Author : Simon Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* URL : http://www.simonzone.com/software/guidance
* License : GPL
Description :
Hi,
on the debian-tetex-maint mailing list we often have problems to decide
which of the thousands of TeX input files should be treated as
configuration files - in principle, each of them can be changed in order
to change the behavior of the system. We are currently thinking about a
solution
On Mon, Nov 21, 2005 at 10:10:38AM +0100, Peter Van Eynde wrote:
I would need to have access to a sid chroot on sparc to build sbcl by hand,
but vore seems to be unreachable by me. The machine page [1] shows no
indication of problems, it is outdated?
The db.d.o page doesn't get status
On Mo, 2005-11-21 at 10:17 +0100, Fathi Boudra wrote:
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Fathi Boudra [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* Package name: pykdeextensions
Version : 0.3.0
Upstream Author : Simon Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* URL :
Those packages (pykdeextensions, libpythonize and kde-guidance) are
already in Ubuntu Breezy (Ubuntu and Kubuntu Flavour).
If you're interested, you can have a look into those package and push
them into Debian.
thanks for the advice but i know this because i've done the base packaging
with
Steve Langasek wrote:
On Mon, Nov 21, 2005 at 10:10:38AM +0100, Peter Van Eynde wrote:
I would need to have access to a sid chroot on sparc to build sbcl by hand,
but vore seems to be unreachable by me. The machine page [1] shows no
indication of problems, it is outdated?
The db.d.o page
On Nov 21, Frank Küster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What do others think? Would it be acceptable Policy-wise to handle
configuration like this?
Yes.
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ciao,
Marco
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On Nov 19, Adam Borowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[udev] edit /etc/udev/permissions.rules (owned by the udev package,
and thus out of reach of fuse-utils anyway)
Wrong. The correct solution would be to install a new file in
/etc/udev/rules.d/.
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ciao,
Marco
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On Mon, 21 Nov 2005, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote:
Anyway, surely the acceptance onto the keyring is designated by a
signiture on that key, not just by it's presense in a particular file?
Yes, it *is* the presense in a particular file.
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One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them.
On Mon, 21 Nov 2005, Ricardo Mones wrote:
On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 12:13:48 +0100
Bill Allombert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
When doing research about circular-deps, I looked at a lot of packages
that are split between a binary package and a data package. This is a
good thing since this reduce the
Hi,
Andreas Metzler wrote:
The real problem with these bounces is not that they fill up the
forwarding host's queue but that they are usually unwanted. Think Joe
Job.
This thread is about email that is obviously not legitimate just looking
at the envelope.
In this day and age, everyone
On Sun, Nov 20, 2005 at 12:13:48PM +0100, Bill Allombert wrote:
5) Of course move /usr/share/pkg to pkg-data.
I meant move /usr/share/pkg to the data package, do not rename it.
6) Do not make pkg-data to Depends on pkg.
7) Try to do it correctly the first time: if you move file between
* Quoting Simon Richter ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
emails because of obviously nonexistent envelope addresses, that doesn't
count those systems where we don't accept mail from *at all* because
they are dialup systems. This, however, is a small system with 10 email
How do you define dialup
Hello,
Rolf Kutz wrote:
emails because of obviously nonexistent envelope addresses, that doesn't
count those systems where we don't accept mail from *at all* because
they are dialup systems. This, however, is a small system with 10 email
How do you define dialup systems and tell dialup
=?iso-8859-15?Q?J=E9r=F4me_Marant?= [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I meantioned one solution. There is another possible one: source uploads.
And no, I don't think it would cause more breakages than nowdays because
uploading sources only doesn't meant packages have not been build on
our systems.
Nicolas Boullis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Sun, Nov 20, 2005 at 12:13:48PM +0100, Bill Allombert wrote:
Hello Debian developers,
When doing research about circular-deps, I looked at a lot of packages
that are split between a binary package and a data package. This is a
good thing since
On Mon, Nov 21, 2005 at 11:31:22AM +0100, Frank K?ster wrote:
Hi,
on the debian-tetex-maint mailing list we often have problems to decide
which of the thousands of TeX input files should be treated as
configuration files - in principle, each of them can be changed in order
to change the
Brian M. Carlson wrote:
If you need to access the BTS data from a program, there is an LDAP
interface available and a copy of entire BTS database on one of the
developer accessable machines.
Then bts cache should use that, and not HTTP, or perhaps only fall back to
HTTP.
The LDAP
On Mon, 2005-11-21 at 16:26 +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
foo depends on foo-data. But foo-data does NOT depend on foo.
So an apt-get install foo-data, while being useless, is consistent
for dpkg. After that you would end up with a menu entry for foo but no
foo binary.
If package
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
3. Loose dependencies between -data and main packages *CAN* create breakage
on partial upgrades, depending on just how tight the relationship between
a particular version of the package and its arch-indep data is. Watch
out for
On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 10:47:18 -0200
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 21 Nov 2005, Ricardo Mones wrote:
On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 12:13:48 +0100
Bill Allombert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
When doing research about circular-deps, I looked at a lot of
packages that are
Scripsit Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
1. -data packages should probably recommend their parent packages if they
are useless without the main package. And versioning should be used if
possible (and needed, don't do it just because), but it cannot be too
strict (=
Scripsit Martijn van Oosterhout [EMAIL PROTECTED]
My first thought would be to simply create multiple keyrings, one for
each keyring maintainer, which are merged on a regular basis. Teaching
the archive scripts to look at more than one keyring wouldn't be too
hard.
That would not solve the
* Joey Hess ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [051121 16:34]:
The LDAP interface is not production quality enough to be used by
anything IMHO. It seems to be down or moved to somewhere else half the
time.
It should now have a permanent address at bts2ldap.debian.net, so at
least the moving around should be
Frank Küster [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi,
on the debian-tetex-maint mailing list we often have problems to decide
which of the thousands of TeX input files should be treated as
configuration files - in principle, each of them can be changed in order
to change the behavior of the system.
Blars Blarson wrote:
If you can't use one of the program intfaces listed above for some
reason, put a 5 second sleep between the completion of one request and
sending the next. That spreads the load out and gives others a chance
to access the BTS.
Done in devscripts 2.9.9.
PS: Will we ever
On Mon, Nov 21, 2005, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
There are some implementation details that someone would have to fix
first
[...]
So while theoretically source only uploads would be great practically
there are problems. I sure hope patches would be welcome though.
Well, if Ubuntu
On Mon, Nov 21, 2005 at 10:47:18AM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
4. Also IMHO one should at the very least suggest the main package from the
-data package. This helps the users of non-crappy apt frontends to
track the main package starting from the -data package. Relying on
On Mon, Nov 21, 2005 at 10:35:01AM -0500, Joey Hess wrote:
Brian M. Carlson wrote:
Additionally, the robots.txt is being violated by bts cache, so
perhaps someone should file a bug.
bts cache is not a web spider, it only downloads the bugs that you
tell it to. It violates the robots.txt
Hi all,
Goswin von Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Frank Küster [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
We are currently thinking about a
solution were there would be hardly any conffiles[1], but a local admin
could put copies of any file he likes into subdirectories of /etc/texmf.
This would shadow
[Thijs Kinkhorst]
If package foo-data is useless when foo is not installed, foo-data
should depend on package foo. This follows from policy manual 7.2: The
Depends field should be used if the depended-on package is required for
the depending package to provide a significant amount of
On Mon, 21 Nov 2005, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
3. Loose dependencies between -data and main packages *CAN* create breakage
on partial upgrades, depending on just how tight the relationship between
a particular version of the
Scripsit Goswin von Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Actualy I would love to have the naming policy set in stone and
frontends filter for them. There is no reason to list foo-data in the
package list but only foo. The frontends can do a simple check: if
($PKG depends on $PKG-data) then hide
On Fri, Nov 18, 2005 at 10:05:02AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Fri, Nov 18, 2005 at 06:08:52PM +0100, Bill Allombert wrote:
Probably I should do a massive bug report ?
Sounds like a good idea to me. Thanks for working on this!
I started the bug filling, see the result here:
On Mon, Nov 21, 2005 at 04:36:41PM +0100, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote:
If package foo-data is useless when foo is not installed, foo-data
should depend on package foo. This follows from policy manual 7.2: The
Depends field should be used if the depended-on package is required for
the depending
Hi,
Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
I guess it is a philosofical question about the functionality provided
by foo-data. If the provided functionality is a set of data usable
by other packages, for example package 'foo', then it is providing its
functionality without a depend on foo. If it is
On Mon, 21 Nov 2005, Bill Allombert wrote:
On Mon, Nov 21, 2005 at 10:47:18AM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
4. Also IMHO one should at the very least suggest the main package from the
-data package. This helps the users of non-crappy apt frontends to
track the main
Hi Christoph,
On Friday, 11 Nov 2005, you wrote:
Maybe lintian could detect if if was running on stable when it should
be on unstable, and warn the user. I'm not sure how to do this, since
there are legitimate uses on stable where you wouldn't want to get the
warning.
it could parse the
plz i need some info about raw cotton iv got to do a project iv been on the
internet but nothing plz ill say again i need some info about raw cotton, how
its made ect.
p.s i need it quiet quick
yours sincerly x x x x x
On Mon, Nov 21, 2005 at 02:45:06PM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
On Mon, 21 Nov 2005, Bill Allombert wrote:
Enrico Zini proposed to use Enhances: instead which seems more correct
than Suggests.
What does Enhances do *exactly*? Or is it just for reference purposes and
the tools
Six days ago I discovered that one of the Debian system administrators
had made a deliberate and highly unusual configuration change which
predictably broke mail from or via master to:
* me personally
* some of the =8 other Debian developers who have accounts on chiark
* the Technical Committee
Anthony Towns writes (Re: Automated testing - design and interfaces):
On Thu, Nov 17, 2005 at 06:43:32PM +, Ian Jackson wrote:
The source package provides a test metadata file debian/tests/
control. This is a file containing zero or more RFC822-style
stanzas, along these lines:
On Monday 21 November 2005 12:07, Ingo Juergensmann wrote:
I could give you an account on a sparc machine with unstable chroot, but
that's a non-debian.org machine, so it's mostly usuable for debugging and
not for a build of an binary upload.
Thanks, but as the main goal is creating a new
I would like to reactivate my debian developer account.
Ive been MIA for a while unfortunately, but have now
rearranged my life so I have time to program for fun
again.
Is there a standard procedure for doing this that
someone can point me to?
Thanks,
Britton Kerin
--
Britton Kerin
[EMAIL
Simon Richter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Andreas Metzler wrote:
The real problem with these bounces is not that they fill up the
forwarding host's queue but that they are usually unwanted. Think Joe
Job.
This thread is about email that is obviously not legitimate just looking
at the
Good morning
I hate double made work. But I love debian and I love KDE. The only problem is
that Debian stable has an outdated KDE version after some time.
The solution is backporting the current KDE version to Debian stable. It's
done by different projects (see below) and different projects
On Mon, Nov 21, 2005 at 04:01:54PM +0100, Bill Allombert wrote:
However much of the
grief come from the | xlibs ( 4.1.0) which is meant to handle upgrade
from woody which have a monolithic xlibs, and can probably be removed
now.
It's already been removed in experimental, and is slated to be
On Sat, Nov 19, 2005 at 06:42:15PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/org/amd64.debian.net$ madison editex
editex |0.0.5-6 |stable | source
editex |0.0.5-6 | unstable | source
As you can see editex is already removed from etch since Heidi syncs
Hi,
On Mon, 2005-11-21 at 12:51 +0100, Fathi Boudra wrote:
Those packages (pykdeextensions, libpythonize and kde-guidance) are
already in Ubuntu Breezy (Ubuntu and Kubuntu Flavour).
If you're interested, you can have a look into those package and push
them into Debian.
thanks for the
Hi,
* Britton Kerin [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-11-21 20:38]:
I would like to reactivate my debian developer account.
Ive been MIA for a while unfortunately, but have now
rearranged my life so I have time to program for fun
again.
Is there a standard procedure for doing this that
someone
On Mon, Nov 21, 2005 at 03:06:49PM -0500, David Nusinow wrote:
On Mon, Nov 21, 2005 at 04:01:54PM +0100, Bill Allombert wrote:
However much of the
grief come from the | xlibs ( 4.1.0) which is meant to handle upgrade
from woody which have a monolithic xlibs, and can probably be removed
On Mon, Nov 21, 2005 at 04:26:34PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow [EMAIL
PROTECTED] was heard to say:
Nicolas Boullis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Sun, Nov 20, 2005 at 12:13:48PM +0100, Bill Allombert wrote:
Hello Debian developers,
When doing research about circular-deps, I looked at a
On Mon, Nov 21, 2005 at 12:35:31PM -0800, Daniel Burrows wrote:
On Mon, Nov 21, 2005 at 04:26:34PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow [EMAIL
PROTECTED] was heard to say:
Nicolas Boullis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Sun, Nov 20, 2005 at 12:13:48PM +0100, Bill Allombert wrote:
Hello Debian
Does anyone know of an analog clock built on top of the Debian swirl?
Through a configuration error, I discovered the cool XMMS Debian theme,
and got to wishing that I had a bit more of a Debian feel to my desktop.
I love running an analog clock, and seeing it next to my new XMMS, I
couldn't help
Ian Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Six days ago I discovered that one of the Debian system
administrators had made a deliberate and highly unusual
configuration change which predictably broke mail from or via master
to:
Err, no. Mail was _already_ bouncing, but after reaching the retry
On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 09:05:02 +0100, Andreas Schuldei
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* Marc Haber [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-11-21 08:55:52]:
On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 11:29:19 +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I seriously hope the non-elected people blocking and slowing down
several
On Sun, Nov 20, 2005 at 06:22:16PM -0600, Bill Allombert wrote:
Actually looks here: http://merkel.debian.org/~ballombe/
The full data is available on merkel.debian.org in ~ballombe/menu/supackages.
Thanks a lot!
At least all these maintainer scripts seems OK.
I can probably check all the
Hi,
Bastian Venthur schrieb:
yesterday I've written two bugreports with reportbug. The bugs have been
sent to bugs.debian.org and reportbug said, I'd receive an answer within
the next hour. This was like 15h ago and I still did not receive an answer.
Maybe this has something to do with
On Mon, 21 Nov 2005, Gregor Jasny wrote:
Bastian Venthur schrieb:
Can somebody confirm that there is a problem with the BTS?
I've got the same setup and the same problem. Still no confirmation
from bugs.debian.org.
The BTS is currently receiving mail properly and acting on it
properly, as
On 21:27 Wed 16 Nov 2005, Christoph Haas wrote:
A quick test revealed that this interface works.
Of course this works, many script serving different services work
because of this. What I also do from time to time is fetch one specific
bug page and parse it, that also work, but it's hard to make
Hi Henning,
On Mon, Nov 21, 2005 at 02:18:02AM +0100, Henning Makholm wrote:
Scripsit Martijn van Oosterhout [EMAIL PROTECTED]
push aside? There's no rule that says there can be only one. Yes,
replacing someone could become ugly, but providing additional hands
can't be considered bad,
[Nathanael Nerode]
Put it in the .diff.gz. If it's too large for that to seem
reasonable to you, then you proabably shouldn't put it in your
package. :-)
Heh, and how large is that? The combined effect of 'configure' and
'**/Makefile.in' can look pretty formidable, yet people exist who
[Anand Kumria]
- require the developer to generate a new key
- require the developer to have _at least_ N
number of other, existing developers sign
their key
- once the developer
Andreas Schuldei [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
i have not given up that hope yet and i invest a considerable
amount of time working on this issue as part of my work on the
DPL-Team. others there do so, too.
I hope this is true. I really do. However, I have no particular
evidence that it is
* Andreas Schuldei:
i have not given up that hope yet and i invest a considerable
amount of time working on this issue as part of my work on the
DPL-Team. others there do so, too.
Is this the delegation to teams item on
http://wiki.debian.org/DPLTeamCurrentIssues? A rather cryptic
reference,
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