Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au writes:
On Tue, Dec 06, 2005 at 05:21:46PM -0800, Blars Blarson wrote:
I can do the analyzing, but what should I do with the results?
Put them on a webpage so anyone can see them, and if you don't find
someone who'll give you an immediate response, track
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aaron M. Ucko) writes:
Thomas Viehmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
+pcsx: i386 # i386
assembly
AFAICT, this is only because its Linux/Makefile forces CPU to ix86
unconditionally.
Write patch. At a minimum the package
Bill Allombert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Making buildd admin a purely administrative task while porters are
not even trusted to do a binary upload is not going to work because you
will never find volunteers accepting to work under theses terms.
Thanks. My sentiment exactly.
MfG
On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 04:48:24PM -0600, Bill Allombert wrote:
On Tue, Dec 06, 2005 at 01:14:00AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
Saying that's the buildd admin's job about tasks that don't *need* to be
done by the buildd admin is a pretty effective way of encouraging the
problems that the
Hi,
I just got a strange response when I sent a mail to two addresses on b.d.o:
The original message was received at Thu, 8 Dec 2005 10:44:44 +0100
from [130.60.169.219]
- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(reason: 550 Administrative
On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 10:41:51AM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aaron M. Ucko) writes:
Thomas Viehmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
+pcsx: i386 #
i386 assembly
AFAICT, this is only because its
On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 10:52:16AM +0100, Frank Küster wrote:
Hi,
I just got a strange response when I sent a mail to two addresses on b.d.o:
The original message was received at Thu, 8 Dec 2005 10:44:44 +0100
from [130.60.169.219]
- The following addresses had permanent fatal
Le jeudi 08 décembre 2005 à 02:03 -0800, Steve Langasek a écrit :
Which translates here to:
1) Buildd admin should be people interested in supporting the port.
2) People that are going to support the port must get the responsibility.
Which is great as a statement of principle, but it
On Fri, Nov 25, 2005 at 07:05:48AM +, John Talbut wrote:
When I run the Makefile below it installs the module in :
/lib/modules/$(KERNELRELEASE)/extra
As far as I can find out, this is the expected behaviour from the kbuild
Makefiles.
However, modprobe looks for modules in
On Dec 05, Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anyway, if you add a depmod call to update-modules then debhelper could
just run it and not worry about needing to run depmod. If OTOH you do
want to eventually remove update-modules from module-init-tools then
we will have to live with debhelper
Jeroen van Wolffelaar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Weird,
fortunately not too weird - I just sent the same mail again, and this
time it has been accepted.
but why don't you ask the people who are dealing with debian.org
mail? Their address in [EMAIL PROTECTED] They have access
to things like
On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 12:24:32PM +0100, Frank Küster wrote:
Jeroen van Wolffelaar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Weird,
fortunately not too weird - I just sent the same mail again, and this
time it has been accepted.
Right, so transitional probably.
but why don't you ask the people who
On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 11:40:17AM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
As a result, no one can help with buildd maintenance as the current
buildd admins won't let anyone help them, however overloaded they can
be. They refuse to delegate any part of their powers because people
aren't skilled enough,
[Josselin Mouette]
I started my implication in the project four years ago. For four
years, there have been problems with keyring maintenance and buildd
administration. For four years, people responsible for these tasks
have refused help on these matters. For four years, everything that
was
I don't know what's wrong but I think there is on principle, which
shouldn't be forgotten. Try to understand first and then to be
understood. I'd like to help, but may be I can't. Read Stephen Covey
books.
2005/12/8, Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 11:40:17AM +0100,
Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 11:40:17AM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
I started my implication in the project four years ago. For four years,
there have been problems with keyring maintenance and buildd
administration.
What problems are there today with
Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 10:41:51AM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aaron M. Ucko) writes:
Thomas Viehmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
+pcsx: i386#
i386 assembly
On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 01:39:27PM +0100, Frank Küster wrote:
What problems are there today with buildd administration, please?
One obvious problem is that there is no documented contact address (just
search for buildd on http://www.debian.org/intro/organization). One
has to know by some
Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 11:40:17AM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
and people aren't skilled enough because they aren't allowed to help.
Er, did you even *read* this thread? We got on the topic of buildds because
*someone refused to help diagnose
Petter Reinholdtsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Setting up a buildd system do not require extra privileges from the
Debian project, as far as I know. Any Debian developer with his
public key in the keyring can sign uploads. The only privileges
Upload of autobuild packages from inofficial
On Thu, 8 Dec 2005 08:07:36 +0100, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote:
On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 01:39:15AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 02:47:07PM -0300, Daniel Ruoso wrote:
I hope this is closer to a consensus...
Afraid not. This proposal basically creates a second class of
On Sat, Nov 26, 2005 at 04:39:46PM +0100, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote:
When an exim mailserver is really bogged down under mail load, attempts
can be made even less often.
It's ben pointed out to me that my mail through master is also bouncing
at times. I also have an IPv6 MX, so it could be
Wouter Verhelst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
That's on master. I've been watching it for about 5 minutes, and never
saw the load drop below 3.80-ish.
Could it be that master is simply imploding on the amount of mail
received?
It's always been like that (if not worse).
--
,''`.
: :' :
On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 02:04:28PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
Rescheduling a job that failed with a missing build-depends is the
buildd admins job. Only people with wanna-build access can do that.
Correct, and the release managers don't consider this to be a problem at
the moment.
So
On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 01:01:10PM +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
[Josselin Mouette]
I started my implication in the project four years ago. For four
years, there have been problems with keyring maintenance and buildd
administration. For four years, people responsible for these tasks
Em Qui, 2005-12-08 às 00:08 +0100, Gaudenz Steinlin escreveu:
On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 02:47:07PM -0300, Daniel Ruoso wrote:
The first type of publication could embrace the entire content of
debian-private, but restrictions will be applied for those who want to
read, basically, the need of
Em Qui, 2005-12-08 às 01:39 +0100, Wouter Verhelst escreveu:
On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 02:47:07PM -0300, Daniel Ruoso wrote:
I hope this is closer to a consensus...
Afraid not. This proposal basically creates a second class of people --
those who we want to sign NDA's to be able to read stuff.
Em Qui, 2005-12-08 às 08:07 +0100, Lionel Elie Mamane escreveu:
On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 01:39:15AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 02:47:07PM -0300, Daniel Ruoso wrote:
The first type of publication could embrace the entire content of
debian-private, but restrictions
On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 01:01:10PM +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
[Josselin Mouette]
I started my implication in the project four years ago. For four
years, there have been problems with keyring maintenance and buildd
administration. For four years, people responsible for these tasks
Le jeudi 08 décembre 2005 à 14:38 +0100, Michael Banck a écrit :
Unfortunately, you do not seem to trust James' opinion on this, but why
do you not trust our beloved Release Manager, either, who said he knew
of no serious issues with buildd maintenance right now?
Maybe because release managers
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Victor Seva [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* Package name: asterisk-prompt-es
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Steve Langasek wrote:
Er, did you even *read* this thread? We got on the topic of buildds because
*someone refused to help diagnose build failures because they consider it the
buildd admin's job*.
Maybe it's not entirely impossible that the other subthread starting at
| Wonderful. Nice to
Ingo Juergensmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 01:39:27PM +0100, Frank Küster wrote:
What problems are there today with buildd administration, please?
One obvious problem is that there is no documented contact address (just
search for buildd on
2005/12/8, Goswin von Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au writes:What is required is abuildd-give-back package_version(or whatever you called the alias for wanna-build --give-back).
Following this train of thought, wouldn't it be reasonable to have a control @
On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 04:35:14PM +0100, Frank Küster wrote:
What problems are there today with buildd administration, please?
One obvious problem is that there is no documented contact address (just
search for buildd on http://www.debian.org/intro/organization). One
has to know by
Package: general
Severity: normal
getlastmod() returns always the current time, filemtime() works as
expected. php.net says:
Apache and PHP have been compiled with the same value for
-DFILE_OFFSET_BITS
Perhaps this is the reason?
-- System Information:
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Architecture: i386
Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
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Bug reassigned from package `general' to `libapache-mod-php4'.
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Please contact me if you need assistance.
Ingo Juergensmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 04:35:14PM +0100, Frank Küster wrote:
What problems are there today with buildd administration, please?
One obvious problem is that there is no documented contact address (just
search for buildd on
On Thursday 08 December 2005 04:41 am, you wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aaron M. Ucko) writes:
Thomas Viehmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
+pcsx: i386 #
i386 assembly
AFAICT, this is only because its Linux/Makefile forces CPU to
Ryan Schultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
PCSX 1.6 does not compile with GCC4 when the ix86 flag is not specified, even
on i386. I don't know about amd64, but my other partially-ASM (using NASM
like PCSX) package (libopenspc) will not build on amd64, so I'm assuming that
the same is true here
On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 06:45:09PM +0100, Frank Küster wrote:
http://bugs.debian.org/342548
Why hasn't that been done before? Where else should this be documented?
Well, Steve wrote lately about the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mails:
AIUI, the arch@buildd.debian.org addresses have a ridiculously
Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Er, did you even *read* this thread? We got on the topic of buildds because
*someone refused to help diagnose build failures because they consider it the
buildd admin's job*.
NO. We got on the topif of this because I said that I was not
interested
On Thursday 08 December 2005 01:44 pm, Aaron M. Ucko wrote:
Ryan Schultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
PCSX 1.6 does not compile with GCC4 when the ix86 flag is not specified,
even on i386. I don't know about amd64, but my other partially-ASM (using
NASM like PCSX) package (libopenspc) will not
I'm trying to build autoconf/automake on my semi woody...
But that isn't going to well (to say the least). I really
hate these two programs. It's always a mess to build them
if you don't follow the latest and greatest (probably no
faults to the maintainers though!)...
Any idea how to get around
On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 07:36:34PM +0100, Simon Josefsson wrote:
When using the Debian mailing lists, please follow these rules:
. When replying to messages on the mailing list, do not send a
carbon copy (CC) to the original poster unless they explicitly
request to be copied.
On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 03:00:58PM +0100, Romain Francoise wrote:
Wouter Verhelst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
That's on master. I've been watching it for about 5 minutes, and never
saw the load drop below 3.80-ish.
Could it be that master is simply imploding on the amount of mail
On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 09:30:52PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
The fact that my primary MX is only available through IPv6, and that
this is the case for other people who're having problems too might
then be a better chance at being the problem.
My primary MX is IPv6-only, too. I don't have
Ingo Juergensmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think that people should choose theirselves what they think is the
best resource for them to find the needed information... ;)
I do think that too, but in order to allow that those resources must be
made public. I haven't found buildd.net
* Lionel Elie Mamane:
On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 09:30:52PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
The fact that my primary MX is only available through IPv6, and that
this is the case for other people who're having problems too might
then be a better chance at being the problem.
My primary MX is
On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 10:32:40PM +0100, Frank Küster wrote:
Feature requests and other things are always welcome! I can't know what you
want until you tell it to me. ;)
Nothing - these the questions I was mainly interested in regarding
buildd's:
- is my package already built everywhere,
Michael Banck wrote:
The main problem of the arm port is *not* the buildd maintenance, but
rather the lack of people fixing actual bugs, which is *not* the job of
the buildd admin but of the porters.
Saying it doesn't make it true.
In fact, people who have volunteered to diagnose bugs in the past
Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
Perhaps it is time for a replacement buildd network, and a new
delegation from the DPL for keyring maintenence?
Anthony Towns wrote:
Whatever for, exactly?
Transparency.
You understand transparency, I know, since you practice a great deal of
transparency in your
CC:ing you because this is sufficiently important I want to make sure you
notice that I'm actually answering what may have been a rhetorical question.
What problems are there today with buildd administration, please?
No clearly-documented contact addresses for buildd administrators (as noted
I can´t belive... this is true...2005/12/8, Andreas Schuldei [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Intel is so generous to provide Debian with ten notebooks (besidessome server hardware), which we would like to give to developersin developing countries who- are technically able,- are dedicated to Debian,
- would be
On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 10:33:54PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote:
* Lionel Elie Mamane:
On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 09:30:52PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
The fact that my primary MX is only available through IPv6, and
that this is the case for other people who're having problems too
might then
* Lionel Elie Mamane:
You also have one IPv4-only MX,
No, I don't.
But Exim 4 thinks so:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
router = dnslookup, transport = remote_smtp
host capsaicin.mamane.lu [2001:888:19f0::2] MX=9
host capsaicin.mamane.lu [2001:888:19f0:2::2] MX=9
On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 11:57:58PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote:
* Lionel Elie Mamane:
You also have one IPv4-only MX,
No, I don't.
But Exim 4 thinks so:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
router = dnslookup, transport = remote_smtp
host capsaicin.mamane.lu [2001:888:19f0::2] MX=9
On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 09:08:58PM +0100, Andreas Schuldei wrote:
Intel is so generous to provide Debian with ten notebooks (besides
some server hardware), which we would like to give to developers
in developing countries who
What exacly did you mean writing about 'developing countries'?
Ryan Schultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Thursday 08 December 2005 04:41 am, you wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aaron M. Ucko) writes:
Thomas Viehmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
+pcsx: i386#
i386 assembly
AFAICT, this is only
* Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-12-09 00:30:09]:
On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 09:08:58PM +0100, Andreas Schuldei wrote:
Intel is so generous to provide Debian with ten notebooks (besides
some server hardware), which we would like to give to developers
in developing countries
On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 01:52:51PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 10:41:51AM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aaron M. Ucko) writes:
Thomas Viehmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
+pcsx: i386
On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 10:33:54PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote:
* Lionel Elie Mamane:
On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 09:30:52PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
The fact that my primary MX is only available through IPv6, and that
this is the case for other people who're having problems too might
Hi,
I'm looking for a 'loginfo' file configuration that works
for alioth.
I thought I have found a solution few days ago, but when
I came back, it no longer seems to work correctly:
The script used in debian-gis repo (pkg-grass) works like a charm.
Feel free to use it... I
Andreas Schuldei wrote:
* Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-12-09 00:30:09]:
On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 09:08:58PM +0100, Andreas Schuldei wrote:
Intel is so generous to provide Debian with ten notebooks (besides
some server hardware), which we would like to give to
Followups set to -vote; can we please keep this on the list that's
designed for these discussions?
On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 11:24:52AM -0300, Daniel Ruoso wrote:
There's a lot of personal information inside debian-private,
There is? I got 36 of 494 messages (7%) for the month I did, with an
On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 04:52:31PM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote:
Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
Perhaps it is time for a replacement buildd network, and a new
delegation from the DPL for keyring maintenence?
Anthony Towns wrote:
Whatever for, exactly?
Transparency.
That's non-sensical.
It seems like folks have found good solutions for their problems already,
but just for the hell of it, I thought I'd mention that I maintain a CVS
commit reporting script mostly because the other ones I'd found didn't
seem to do quite enough or were poorly documented.
It's at:
iih
Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au writes:
That's non-sensical. Everything the buildds do is logged pretty much
immediately onto http://buildd.debian.org/, which also provides long
running statistics on how effective the buildds are, and even a schedule
of what the buildds will be working
The following is a listing of packages for which help has been requested
through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the
last week.
Total number of orphaned packages: 188 (new: 4)
Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 91 (new: 1)
Total number of packages
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