salutation et cris au secour

2005-12-09 Thread alain kizungu
Suis gradué en santé publique ,chomeur et orphelin laissé par ses 2 parents qui etaient des locataire.Je vis chez les voisins mais avec bcp de difficultés. Je suis Congolais particulierement au Sud Kivu où la guerre bas ses reccords,pas de paix. Veuillez nous assister car nous sommes en

Re: Réveillon s le bazar: un premier jet de statuts

2005-12-09 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Dec 09, 2005 at 09:16:40AM +0100, Patrice Karatchentzeff wrote: 2005/12/8, Christian Perrier [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [...] Après le salon [EMAIL PROTECTED] où nou sétions avec Raphaël, j'ai personnellement ressenti un besoin de plus en plus fort de pouvoir donner à Debian une

Re: Réveillon s le bazar: un premier jet de statuts

2005-12-09 Thread Christian Perrier
Après le salon [EMAIL PROTECTED] où nou sétions avec Raphaël, j'ai personnellement ressenti un besoin de plus en plus fort de pouvoir donner à Debian une existence légale en France, ne serait-ce que pour que certains puissent parler non en tant qu'individus membres d'un projet flou mais

Re: Réveillon s le bazar: un premier jet de statuts

2005-12-09 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Dec 09, 2005 at 10:51:26AM +0100, Christian Perrier wrote: Après le salon [EMAIL PROTECTED] où nou sétions avec Raphaël, j'ai personnellement ressenti un besoin de plus en plus fort de pouvoir donner à Debian une existence légale en France, ne serait-ce que pour que certains

Re: Réveillons le bazar: un premier jet de statuts

2005-12-09 Thread Alexis Sukrieh
Le vendredi 09 décembre 2005 à 10:51 +0100, Christian Perrier a écrit : Donner une existence légale au projet en France servira à donner une meilleure réponse ici. Juste pour apporter mes deux euro-cents, je trouve en effet très bonne l'idée de créer une structure juridique. C'est

Re: Réveillons le bazar: un premier jet de statuts

2005-12-09 Thread Eric Mercier
Alexis Sukrieh a écrit : Le vendredi 09 décembre 2005 à 10:51 +0100, Christian Perrier a écrit : Donner une existence légale au projet en France servira à donner une meilleure réponse ici. Bonjour, Je suis Éric Mercier, et je participe aux développement des projets soutenus par la

Re: buildd administration

2005-12-09 Thread Frank Küster
Ingo Juergensmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 10:32:40PM +0100, Frank Küster wrote: Feature requests and other things are always welcome! I can't know what you want until you tell it to me. ;) Nothing - these the questions I was mainly interested in regarding

Re: State of gcc 2.95 use in Debian unstable

2005-12-09 Thread Heiko Müller
Dear Thiemo, we very much appreciate your work on the gcc-2.95 debian package. For us - and probably also for other users in the scientific community - the old compiler version is still of great value. We use gcc-2.95 to compile C/C++ code with very large mathematical expressions generated by

Re: buildd administration

2005-12-09 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
On Fri, Dec 09, 2005 at 09:43:36AM +0100, Frank Küster wrote: Ingo Juergensmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 10:32:40PM +0100, Frank Küster wrote: Feature requests and other things are always welcome! I can't know what you want until you tell it to me. ;)

Re: buildd administration

2005-12-09 Thread Frank Küster
Jeroen van Wolffelaar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Dec 09, 2005 at 09:43:36AM +0100, Frank Küster wrote: Ingo Juergensmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A buildd admin doesn't see much more than what you can see in the build logs. Basically the build logs is all a buildd admin see. But

Re: Need pain pills?reply/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2005-12-09 Thread Adrienne

Re: buildd administration

2005-12-09 Thread Anthony Towns
On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 10:16:37PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au writes: That's non-sensical. Everything the buildds do is logged pretty much immediately onto http://buildd.debian.org/, which also provides long running statistics on how effective the

FYI, current mirror sizes

2005-12-09 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Hi, I got a bugreport requesting exected mirror sizes to be added to the debmirror documentation and I thought some of you might be intrested in them too. So heres the stats: Mirror size for a singe arch and binary only (in MiB): | sarge | etch | sid | all

Re: buildd administration

2005-12-09 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au writes: On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 04:52:31PM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: To respond preemptively to one expected reply: I don't have time to answer these questions is not a reasonable excuse, because if they don't have time, they need to ask for help.

Re: buildd administration

2005-12-09 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Fri, Dec 09, 2005 at 11:49:05PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 10:16:37PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au writes: That's non-sensical. Everything the buildds do is logged pretty much immediately onto http://buildd.debian.org/,

Re: StrongARM tactics

2005-12-09 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 01:52:51PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 10:41:51AM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aaron M. Ucko) writes: Thomas Viehmann [EMAIL

Re: circular (source) dependencies!?

2005-12-09 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Turbo Fredriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm trying to build autoconf/automake on my semi woody... But that isn't going to well (to say the least). I really hate these two programs. It's always a mess to build them if you don't follow the latest and greatest (probably no faults to the

Bug#342691: ITP: freetalk -- Freetalk is a console based Jabber client. It features a readline interface with completion of buddy names, commands and even ordinary English words! Freetalk is extensibl

2005-12-09 Thread Baishampayan Ghose
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: freetalk Version : 0.5 Upstream Author : Anand Avati [EMAIL PROTECTED], et al. * URL : http://freetalk.nongnu.org * License : GPL Description : Freetalk is a console based Jabber client. Freetalk is a

Re: State of gcc 2.95 use in Debian unstable

2005-12-09 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Heiko Müller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We found that gcc-2.95 -Os produces object code of acceptable quality within reasonable compilation times. gcc =3 is less efficient w.r.t. compilation time and memory consumption and in many cases even fails to compile our codes due to the very long

Re: buildd administration

2005-12-09 Thread Michael Banck
On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 04:52:31PM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: I also see the keyring's been updated earlier this week, including both a replacement key for Horms from late last month, and Chip's requested updates. Indeed, complaining on debian-devel appears to get results, doesn't it?

Bug#342700: ITP: freehoo -- Freehoo is a free console based Yahoo! Messenger client.

2005-12-09 Thread Baishampayan Ghose
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Baishampayan Ghose [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Package name: freehoo Version : 3.4.1 Upstream Author : Anand Babu [EMAIL PROTECTED], et al. * URL : http://freehoo.nongnu.org * License : GPL Description : Freehoo is a free

Re: FYI, current mirror sizes

2005-12-09 Thread Florian Weimer
* Goswin von Brederlow: Mirror size per arch (in MiB): | sarge | etch | sid | all -+---+--+---+--- source | 9339 | 9419 | 11495 | 30252 This looks suspicious. I expected that the total number would be significantly less than the sum of the suites

Re: buildd administration

2005-12-09 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le vendredi 09 décembre 2005 à 16:27 +0100, Michael Banck a écrit : On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 04:52:31PM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: Indeed, complaining on debian-devel appears to get results, doesn't it? At least, that's the conclusion that a rational outside observer would come to.

Re: buildd administration

2005-12-09 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le vendredi 09 décembre 2005 à 12:07 +1000, Anthony Towns a écrit : That's non-sensical. Everything the buildds do is logged pretty much immediately onto http://buildd.debian.org/, which also provides long running statistics on how effective the buildds are, and even a schedule of what the

Re: buildd administration

2005-12-09 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le vendredi 09 décembre 2005 à 23:49 +1000, Anthony Towns a écrit : How many more years are we going to waste time with this hysteria before realising it doesn't achieve anything but rapidly sucking the fun out of things? How many developer resignations will you need to understand inaction

Re: buildd administration

2005-12-09 Thread Erinn Clark
* Josselin Mouette [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005:12:09 17:48 +0100]: Le vendredi 09 d?cembre 2005 ? 12:07 +1000, Anthony Towns a ?crit : Ingo's burnt a fair number of bridges wrt buildd issues; I'm sorry, but I don't really care if volunteers decline to work with people who're obnoxious and

Re: buildd administration

2005-12-09 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Josselin Mouette [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Le vendredi 09 décembre 2005 à 12:07 +1000, Anthony Towns a écrit : That's non-sensical. Everything the buildds do is logged pretty much immediately onto http://buildd.debian.org/, which also provides long running statistics on how effective the

Re: FYI, current mirror sizes

2005-12-09 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Florian Weimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * Goswin von Brederlow: Mirror size per arch (in MiB): | sarge | etch | sid | all -+---+--+---+--- source | 9339 | 9419 | 11495 | 30252 This looks suspicious. I expected that the total number would be

Re: buildd administration

2005-12-09 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Fri, 9 Dec 2005 12:07:11 +1000, Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au said: That's not a productive attitude. If they don't have time to answer questions, they almost certainly don't have time to ask for help, either. When that cirucmstance has arisen, the only way out is for others to

Re: buildd administration

2005-12-09 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Fri, 9 Dec 2005 16:27:10 +0100, Michael Banck [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 04:52:31PM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: I also see the keyring's been updated earlier this week, including both a replacement key for Horms from late last month, and Chip's requested updates.

Re: buildd administration

2005-12-09 Thread Erinn Clark
* Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005:12:09 12:47 -0600]: Err, so if a NM candidate speaks as openly as some DD's do, they get threatened with having their applications cancelled because of them speaking their minds? What is this, a munich beer hall in 1933? Isn't the point

Re: buildd administration

2005-12-09 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
On Fri, Dec 09, 2005 at 05:48:13PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le vendredi 09 décembre 2005 à 12:07 +1000, Anthony Towns a écrit : That's non-sensical. Everything the buildds do is logged pretty much immediately onto http://buildd.debian.org/, which also provides long running statistics

Re: buildd administration

2005-12-09 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Fri, December 9, 2005 20:02, Erinn Clark wrote: Surely flaming people on mailing lists as a way to get things done is not something people want to encourage in NMs... right? Wouldn't Debian want to find people who can think of new and inventive ways to achieve goals rather than resorting to

Re: buildd administration

2005-12-09 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Fri, 9 Dec 2005 14:02:17 -0500, Erinn Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: * Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005:12:09 12:47 -0600]: Err, so if a NM candidate speaks as openly as some DD's do, they get threatened with having their applications cancelled because of them speaking their minds?

Re: buildd administration

2005-12-09 Thread Erinn Clark
* Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005:12:09 13:27 -0600]: I'm surprised you think raising ones voice civilly in concern about a problem area in Debian is not playing nicely with others. Is your contention that some volunteers are so much more equal than others that no voices

Re: buildd administration

2005-12-09 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Fri, 9 Dec 2005 15:06:26 -0500, Erinn Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: * Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005:12:09 13:27 -0600]: I'm surprised you think raising ones voice civilly in concern about a problem area in Debian is not playing nicely with others. Is your contention that some

Re: buildd administration

2005-12-09 Thread Blars Blarson
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: - How can I get information from inside a buildd, e.g. temporary files created during a failed build. First pass answer: you can't. sbuild (tries to) clean up after builds. Alternate: try to get a porter to redo the build and give you

Re: buildd administration

2005-12-09 Thread Blars Blarson
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Setting up a buildd system do not require extra privileges from the Debian project, as far as I know. Any Debian developer with his public key in the keyring can sign uploads. and get threats from the current buildd administrator to make

Re: buildd administration

2005-12-09 Thread Erinn Clark
* Erinn Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005:12:09 12:45 -0500]: * Josselin Mouette [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005:12:09 17:48 +0100]: Le vendredi 09 d?cembre 2005 ? 12:07 +1000, Anthony Towns a ?crit : Ingo's burnt a fair number of bridges wrt buildd issues; I'm sorry, but I don't really care if

Re: buildd administration

2005-12-09 Thread Ingo Juergensmann
On Fri, Dec 09, 2005 at 04:08:55PM -0500, Erinn Clark wrote: Where is the buildd.net software located? I poked around on the site but I couldn't find it except for the update-buildd.net script. (Replying to myself after getting an answer on IRC from Ingo...) The short summary to my answer

Re: Intel notebooks for needy developers in developing countries

2005-12-09 Thread Andy Teijelo Pérez
El Jueves, 8 de Diciembre de 2005 7:14, Andreas Schuldei escribió: ... i can try to come up with a list of countries if it helps. For some reason I don't understand, hitting reply on most messages in the list brings up the new message window with the correct To: address

Re: buildd administration

2005-12-09 Thread Russ Allbery
Ingo Juergensmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Please stop assuming wrong facts. As I already stated several times before: Ryan was offered to integrate the buildd.net software. He declined with the argument that all information is already available on buildd.d.o. That's a clear sign that he

Re: Intel notebooks for needy developers in developing countries

2005-12-09 Thread Alejandro Bonilla
On Fri, 9 Dec 2005 11:52:07 -0500, Andy Teijelo Pérez wrote El Jueves, 8 de Diciembre de 2005 7:14, Andreas Schuldei escribió: ... i can try to come up with a list of countries if it helps. For some reason I don't understand, hitting reply on most messages in the list brings up the new

Re: Intel notebooks for needy developers in developing countries

2005-12-09 Thread Andreas Schuldei
* Andy Teijelo Pérez [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-12-09 11:52:07]: Does a country considered by the U.S. government as terrorist, or with which having commercial relationships is forbidden for american companies, apply for this offering? I got some wise advice about not to make the contry the

ALSA packager needed

2005-12-09 Thread Thomas Hood
The ALSA packaging team needs help. We really need someone with expertise in programming for the ALSA library. If you are able to help us, please contact us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: State of gcc 2.95 use in Debian unstable

2005-12-09 Thread Matthias Klose
Heiko Müller writes: We found that gcc-2.95 -Os produces object code of acceptable quality within reasonable compilation times. gcc =3 is less efficient w.r.t. please be more precise. Debian currently uses 4.0, and has a 4.1 prerelease in the archives (gcc-snapshot). such regressions are best

Co-maintainers sought

2005-12-09 Thread Thomas Hood
I seek co-maintainers for: mwavem thinkpad, tpctl resolvconf -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Intel notebooks for needy developers in developing countries

2005-12-09 Thread Alejandro Bonilla Beeche
Andreas Schuldei wrote: * Andy Teijelo Pérez [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-12-09 11:52:07]: Does a country considered by the U.S. government as terrorist, or with which having commercial relationships is forbidden for american companies, apply for this offering? I got some wise advice

Re: Intel notebooks for needy developers in developing countries

2005-12-09 Thread Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo
On Sat, Dec 10, 2005 at 12:14:59AM +0100, Andreas Schuldei wrote: having commercial relationships is forbidden for american companies, apply for this offering? I got some wise advice about not to make the contry the ulitmate critera (and to NOT give a list of countries). So if there

Re: buildd administration

2005-12-09 Thread John Hasler
Erinn Clark writes: Surely flaming people on mailing lists as a way to get things done is not something people want to encourage in NMs... right? Right. After all, as we all know, no DD would ever do such a thing. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject

Re: buildd administration

2005-12-09 Thread Anthony Towns
On Fri, Dec 09, 2005 at 10:19:46AM -0500, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: I'm not saying that this all needs to be publicly logged. I don't give a rat's ass whether it is or not. But please don't stand there saying that the process is completely transparent. I don't believe I said that. I don't

Re: buildd administration

2005-12-09 Thread Anthony Towns
On Fri, Dec 09, 2005 at 05:56:24PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le vendredi 09 décembre 2005 à 23:49 +1000, Anthony Towns a écrit : How many more years are we going to waste time with this hysteria before realising it doesn't achieve anything but rapidly sucking the fun out of things?

Re: buildd administration

2005-12-09 Thread Anthony Towns
On Fri, Dec 09, 2005 at 04:27:10PM +0100, Michael Banck wrote: On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 04:52:31PM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: I also see the keyring's been updated earlier this week, including both a replacement key for Horms from late last month, and Chip's requested updates. Indeed,

Re: buildd administration

2005-12-09 Thread Anthony Towns
On Fri, Dec 09, 2005 at 05:48:13PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: There is absolutely zero documentation on how the buildd network works. If the documentation's insufficient, ask politely for help. buildd.debian.org points you at wanna-build and its svn repo, which has some reasonably extensive

Re: buildd administration

2005-12-09 Thread Matthew Garrett
Josselin Mouette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le vendredi 09 décembre 2005 à 23:49 +1000, Anthony Towns a écrit : How many more years are we going to waste time with this hysteria before realising it doesn't achieve anything but rapidly sucking the fun out of things? How many developer

Re: buildd administration

2005-12-09 Thread Matthew Garrett
Thijs Kinkhorst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not really convinced that such an approach would have a significant effect as long as you're not measuring existing DD's to the same standards. Which, as far as I can see, does not happen. A procedure is in place for developers to be ejected from

Re: buildd administration

2005-12-09 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Sat, Dec 10, 2005 at 11:46:50AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: On Fri, Dec 09, 2005 at 10:19:46AM -0500, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: I'm not saying that this all needs to be publicly logged. I don't give a rat's ass whether it is or not. But please don't stand there saying that the process

Re: buildd administration

2005-12-09 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au writes: On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 10:16:37PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au writes: That's non-sensical. Everything the buildds do is logged pretty much immediately onto http://buildd.debian.org/, which also provides

Re: buildd administration

2005-12-09 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au writes: The major task of buildd maintenance (aiui) is handlings logs though, and that's certainly what was being complained about earlier. No. What I was complaining about was totally ignoring of requeue requests sent to the @buildd.debian.org advertised

Re: buildd administration

2005-12-09 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Russ Allbery [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ingo Juergensmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Please stop assuming wrong facts. As I already stated several times before: Ryan was offered to integrate the buildd.net software. He declined with the argument that all information is already available on

Re: buildd administration

2005-12-09 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au writes: On Fri, Dec 09, 2005 at 10:19:46AM -0500, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: I'm not saying that this all needs to be publicly logged. I don't give a rat's ass whether it is or not. But please don't stand there saying that the process is completely

Re: buildd administration

2005-12-09 Thread Russ Allbery
Goswin von Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Russ Allbery [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: C'mon, this is a free software project. The obvious first step for providing better infrastructure would be to make that infrastructure publically available for anyone to download, play with, hack on, or

Re: buildd administration

2005-12-09 Thread Anthony Towns
On Fri, Dec 09, 2005 at 07:24:00PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: An excellent example of this is the publication of the NEW queue. Now that everyone can see the NEW queue, I don't see any of the big public criticism about slow processing. Well, that's not very interesting, because the

Re: buildd administration

2005-12-09 Thread Anthony Towns
On Fri, Dec 09, 2005 at 07:25:14PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au writes: The major task of buildd maintenance (aiui) is handlings logs though, and that's certainly what was being complained about earlier. No. What I was complaining about was totally

Re: buildd administration

2005-12-09 Thread Anthony Towns
On Fri, Dec 09, 2005 at 10:11:12PM -0500, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: The majority of handling logs is monkeywork - very easy, mostly automated. The main jobs of the buildd admin are to The job of the buildd admin is to make sure packages are built. Mostly that's automated, which is great, which

Re: buildd administration

2005-12-09 Thread Clint Adams
The job of the buildd admin is to make sure packages are built. Mostly that's automated, which is great, which means the buildd admin's job is mostly to keep the automation working. Dan was a really good buildd admin. Maybe he knows what he's talking about. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: buildd administration

2005-12-09 Thread Anthony Towns
On Fri, Dec 09, 2005 at 07:24:00PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: No, not in the least. That's a good start, but for it to be an excellent start, it needs to work like the BTS, and be something that the relevant volunteers themselves read and pay attention to. It doesn't actually need

Re: buildd administration

2005-12-09 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au writes: On Fri, Dec 09, 2005 at 07:25:14PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au writes: The major task of buildd maintenance (aiui) is handlings logs though, and that's certainly what was being complained about earlier.

Re: buildd administration

2005-12-09 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au writes: The job of the buildd admin is to make sure packages are built. Mostly that's automated, which is great, which means the buildd admin's job is mostly to keep the automation working. So when the build admin is not doing that job, what should we do?

Re: buildd administration

2005-12-09 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au writes: Upstream is working on #335981 and #336371. In fact, scm has *never* supported s390; scm |5d9-4.1 | unstable | s390 And yet, it didn't actually run successfully on s390. Support is not just a matter of compiling. when I took

Re: buildd administration

2005-12-09 Thread Anthony Towns
On Fri, Dec 09, 2005 at 09:40:11PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au writes: Requeue requests are part of handling logs... You get a failed log, you analyse it to say oh, that's a transient error due to other things then you requeue it... If that

Re: buildd administration

2005-12-09 Thread Anthony Towns
On Fri, Dec 09, 2005 at 09:44:59PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au writes: Upstream is working on #335981 and #336371. In fact, scm has *never* supported s390; scm |5d9-4.1 | unstable | s390 And yet, it didn't actually run

Re: buildd administration

2005-12-09 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au writes: So why was the request ignored for a month? Why did my email result in no action, twice, not even a response? I've told you what I'd need to answer that question already. Perhaps you don't know the answer to these questions. But then how can

Re: Intel notebooks for needy developers in developing countries

2005-12-09 Thread Christian Perrier
Yeah that would be a real pain to exlude countries because of stupid political 'correctness'. All in all in Free Software movement we don't know what the borders are, do we? We (Debian developers and contributors) certainly all agree on this (or, at least, the vast majority of us). However,

Re: buildd administration

2005-12-09 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au writes: On Fri, Dec 09, 2005 at 09:44:59PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au writes: Upstream is working on #335981 and #336371. In fact, scm has *never* supported s390; scm |5d9-4.1 | unstable |

Re: buildd administration

2005-12-09 Thread Anthony Towns
On Fri, Dec 09, 2005 at 10:37:08PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au writes: Easy: the best tools we've got to judge whether buildds are keeping up are the buildd graphs which indicate that with the exception of m68k and arm (hrm, and possibly hppa), all

Re: buildd administration

2005-12-09 Thread Anthony Towns
On Fri, Dec 09, 2005 at 10:54:59PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: In addition, I would point out that your method of supporting the package amounts to documenting its inadequacy and then doing nothing. No, the issue is one of resolving RC issues: in this case by: (a) seeing if the FTBFS

Re: buildd administration

2005-12-09 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: If a package is failing to build or to function on some architecture, your job as that package's maintainer is see if it can be fixed (talking to porters and/or upstream if it's beyond your skills) BTW: is there a way to get build failures by mail?

Accepted qpsmtpd 0.31.1-3 (source all)

2005-12-09 Thread Devin Carraway
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 00:00:12 -0800 Source: qpsmtpd Binary: qpsmtpd Architecture: source all Version: 0.31.1-3 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Devin Carraway [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Devin Carraway [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Accepted ocaml 3.09.0-2 (source i386 all)

2005-12-09 Thread Julien Cristau
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 10:19:39 +0100 Source: ocaml Binary: ocaml-compiler-libs ocaml-native-compilers ocaml-base ocaml-nox ocaml-mode ocaml-interp ocaml-source ocaml-base-nox ocaml Architecture: source i386 all Version: 3.09.0-2

Accepted nsd 2.3.3-1 (source i386)

2005-12-09 Thread Ondřej Surý
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 09:45:19 +0100 Source: nsd Binary: nsd Architecture: source i386 Version: 2.3.3-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Ondřej Surý [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Ondřej Surý [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Accepted dictd 1.10.2-3 (source i386)

2005-12-09 Thread Kirk Hilliard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 03:33:25 -0500 Source: dictd Binary: dictfmt dictd dictzip dict Architecture: source i386 Version: 1.10.2-3 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Kirk Hilliard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Kirk Hilliard

Accepted sword 1.5.8-7 (source i386)

2005-12-09 Thread Daniel Glassey
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 10:42:17 + Source: sword Binary: libsword-dev libsword5c2a diatheke Architecture: source i386 Version: 1.5.8-7 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: Daniel Glassey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By:

Accepted ocaml 3.09.0-3 (source i386 all)

2005-12-09 Thread Julien Cristau
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 11:01:06 +0100 Source: ocaml Binary: ocaml-compiler-libs ocaml-native-compilers ocaml-base ocaml-nox ocaml-mode ocaml-interp ocaml-source ocaml-base-nox ocaml Architecture: source i386 all Version: 3.09.0-3

Accepted madison-lite 0.6 (source all)

2005-12-09 Thread Colin Watson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 11:34:27 + Source: madison-lite Binary: madison-lite Architecture: source all Version: 0.6 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Accepted apt-setup 1:0.4 (source all)

2005-12-09 Thread Colin Watson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 12:09:30 + Source: apt-setup Binary: apt-mirror-setup apt-cdrom-setup apt-setup-udeb Architecture: source all Version: 1:0.4 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian Install System Team

Accepted loop-aes-utils 2.12r-1 (source i386)

2005-12-09 Thread Max Vozeler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 11:05:48 +0100 Source: loop-aes-utils Binary: loop-aes-utils mount-aes-udeb Architecture: source i386 Version: 2.12r-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Max Vozeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Max

Accepted kile 1:1.8.1-3.2 (source all i386)

2005-12-09 Thread Adeodato Simó
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 13:44:02 +0100 Source: kile Binary: kile kile-i18n Architecture: all i386 source Version: 1:1.8.1-3.2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Ben Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Adeodato Simó [EMAIL

Accepted preload 0.2-3 (source i386)

2005-12-09 Thread Kari Pahula
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 12:49:08 +0200 Source: preload Binary: preload Architecture: source i386 Version: 0.2-3 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Kari Pahula [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Kari Pahula [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Accepted libmusicbrainz-queries-perl 0.09-1 (source i386)

2005-12-09 Thread Michael Ablassmeier
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 14:33:24 +0100 Source: libmusicbrainz-queries-perl Binary: libmusicbrainz-queries-perl Architecture: source i386 Version: 0.09-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Michael Ablassmeier [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Accepted gabber2 1.9.4+cvs20040709-17 (source i386)

2005-12-09 Thread Goedson Teixeira Paixao
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 22:39:30 -0200 Source: gabber2 Binary: gabber2 Architecture: source i386 Version: 1.9.4+cvs20040709-17 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Goedson Teixeira Paixao [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Goedson

Accepted junior-games-gl 1.7 (source all)

2005-12-09 Thread Ben Armstrong
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 10:57:43 -0400 Source: junior-games-gl Binary: junior-games-gl Architecture: source all Version: 1.7 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Ben Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Ben Armstrong [EMAIL

Accepted cl-yacc 0.2-1 (source all)

2005-12-09 Thread René van Bevern
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 13:34:44 +0100 Source: cl-yacc Binary: cl-yacc Architecture: source all Version: 0.2-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: René van Bevern [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: René van Bevern [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Accepted libwpd 0.8.4-2 (source all powerpc hppa i386)

2005-12-09 Thread Rene Engelhard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 16:20:02 + Source: libwpd Binary: libwpd-tools libwpd8-doc libwpd8c2a libwpd8-dev libwpd-stream8c2a Architecture: all hppa i386 powerpc source Version: 0.8.4-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer:

Accepted cproto 4.7e-1 (source i386)

2005-12-09 Thread Kenneth J. Pronovici
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 10:25:50 -0600 Source: cproto Binary: cproto Architecture: source i386 Version: 4.7e-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Kenneth J. Pronovici [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Kenneth J. Pronovici [EMAIL

Accepted debian-installer-utils 1.21 (source i386 all)

2005-12-09 Thread Frans Pop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 17:36:40 +0100 Source: debian-installer-utils Binary: di-utils-terminfo di-utils-mapdevfs di-utils-shell di-utils-reboot di-utils di-utils-exit-installer Architecture: source i386 all Version: 1.21 Distribution:

Accepted xpuyopuyo 0.9.8-3 (source i386)

2005-12-09 Thread Daniel Burrows
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 08:59:58 -0800 Source: xpuyopuyo Binary: xpuyopuyo Architecture: source i386 Version: 0.9.8-3 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Daniel Burrows [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Daniel Burrows [EMAIL

Accepted xemacs21 21.4.18-1 (source all i386)

2005-12-09 Thread OHURA Makoto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 00:02:01 +0900 Source: xemacs21 Binary: xemacs21-gnome-mule xemacs21-mule xemacs21-bin xemacs21-gnome-nomule xemacs21-supportel xemacs21-gnome-mule-canna-wnn xemacs21-support xemacs21-mule-canna-wnn xemacs21

Accepted heroes 0.21-6 (source i386)

2005-12-09 Thread Daniel Burrows
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 10:25:52 -0800 Source: heroes Binary: heroes-sdl heroes-common heroes-ggi Architecture: source i386 Version: 0.21-6 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Daniel Burrows [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Daniel

Accepted elilo 3.4pre5.2-2 (source i386)

2005-12-09 Thread Bdale Garbee
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 10:14:30 -0800 Source: elilo Binary: elilo Architecture: source i386 Version: 3.4pre5.2-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Bdale Garbee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Bdale Garbee [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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