Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Err, what are you trying to do? You have demonstrated here
that with the new make, you can concatenate words, the old make did
not.
[...]
So it seems that it is not possible to make shell commands with line
continuation work with both make
On Wed, Dec 28, 2005 at 11:49:31PM -0600, Adam Heath wrote:
On Thu, 29 Dec 2005, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote:
I might be acting paranoid here but just want to clarify couple
of things. I was under the impression that, if I report a bug to
bugs.debian.org, any future correspondence on that
On Wed, 2005-12-28 at 23:49 -0600, Adam Heath wrote:
You'll only get mails if the sender sends to ###-submitter. Mail sent to just
### is not forwarded, and only stored.
This is not a bug in the software, but in the person sending the mail.
I'd consider this a bug in the software, the
You don't have to unlock it.
We already have
http://www.adminder.com/c.cgi?gotwoodsalehoo
I made $5400 in my first 3 weeks using this
Hello,
On Thu, 22.12.2005 at 17:20:42 +0100, Henning Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes; therefore it is not bloat to have nvi and nano both in base; they
satisfy different needs (having a vi because we're unix resp. having a
non-modal editor for the rest of us).
I'm not used to nano, but
Hi there,
Em Qua, 2005-12-28 às 23:49 -0600, Adam Heath escreveu:
You'll only get mails if the sender sends to ###-submitter. Mail sent to just
### is not forwarded, and only stored.
Not that this really matters for the points in this discussion, but just
for the record, messages to [EMAIL
On Dec 29, Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Some component of debian will have to install a rules file with static
aliases, and so far I think that this should be a task for d-i.
Comments and other ideas are welcome.
What will provide this for systems upgraded from sarge?
Good
On Thu, Dec 29, 2005 at 03:32:43AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
[snip]
Anyway, that's the general idea; hopefully it'll become clearer
later. Given release architectures have de-facto requalified, candidates
for archive (re)qualification are ttbomk:
* arm, m68k, s390, sparc
*
To prepare for the eventual removal of makedev, I propose that packages
currently depending on it will add an alternative dependency to udev.
Also, policy should be amended accordingly.
The affected packages are:
alevt
camstream
cdrecord
dvb-utils
fbset
gnupg
gnupg2
irda-utils
isdnutils-base
Marco d'Itri wrote:
Good point. So it looks like that this will have to be managed by an
installed package.
I do not expect to be pratical to do this e.g. at boot time, so we need
a script to be run by a catch-all rule for devices without an alias.
BTW, does d-i actually need the /dev/cdrom
to, 2005-12-29 kello 11:01 +0100, Toni Mueller kirjoitti:
I'm not used to nano, but the editor in base expected to be used for
working on system config files is imho required to respect tabs and eg.
*not* convert them to spaces unless told to do so, and also provide
means to enter new tabs.
to, 2005-12-29 kello 13:39 +0100, Marco d'Itri kirjoitti:
To prepare for the eventual removal of makedev, I propose that packages
currently depending on it will add an alternative dependency to udev.
Also, policy should be amended accordingly.
The affected packages are:
This is the same
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Frank Lichtenheld [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* Package name: libgpod
Version : 0.3.0
Upstream Author : Jorg Schuler (jcsjcs at users dot sourceforge dot net)
* URL : http://www.gtkpod.org
* License : GPL
Description : a
ke, 2005-12-28 kello 02:00 +0100, Moritz Muehlenhoff kirjoitti:
Why don't we add a status field into the PTS, where a maintainer
can denote her NMU policy for a given source package? E.g.
a selection box, ranging from Don't dare to touch this, I bite
to Feel free to 0d-NMU for every severity
Joey Hess wrote:
Marco d'Itri wrote:
Good point. So it looks like that this will have to be managed by an
installed package.
I do not expect to be pratical to do this e.g. at boot time, so we need
a script to be run by a catch-all rule for devices without an alias.
BTW, does d-i actually need
On Thu, Dec 29, 2005 at 01:39:01PM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote:
To prepare for the eventual removal of makedev, I propose that packages
currently depending on it will add an alternative dependency to udev.
Also, policy should be amended accordingly.
It might be useful to tell the maintainers of
On Thu, 29 Dec 2005, Marco d'Itri wrote:
These packages have already been fixed:
rng-tools
Huh? rng-tools certainly takes benefit of MAKEDEV. It doesn't bork if
MAKEDEV has disappeared, though. Is that what you mean?
rng-tools postinst does this:
(cd /dev ./MAKEDEV hwrandom || ./MAKEDEV
On Dec 29, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Huh? rng-tools certainly takes benefit of MAKEDEV. It doesn't bork if
MAKEDEV has disappeared, though. Is that what you mean?
No. I mean that it currently depends on makedeva while it should depend
on makedev | udev.
rng-tools
On Thu, Dec 29, 2005 at 03:46:08PM +0200, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
ke, 2005-12-28 kello 02:00 +0100, Moritz Muehlenhoff kirjoitti:
Why don't we add a status field into the PTS, where a maintainer
can denote her NMU policy for a given source package? E.g. a
selection box, ranging from Don't dare
On Thu, Dec 29, 2005 at 04:31:22PM +0100, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote:
http://wiki.debian.org/LowThresholdNmu
Thanks, but I can't find the edit link or button. Is it well hidden
or am I going blind?
wiki.debian.org uses MoinMoin, which is this odd sort of psuedo-wiki; you
have to register and log
On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 09:04:09 +0100, Frank Küster [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Err, what are you trying to do? You have demonstrated here that
with the new make, you can concatenate words, the old make did not.
[...]
So it seems that it is not possible to
Hi Milan, Jon,
As discussed, 'the Debian project' as such has huge difficulties accepting
hardware donations - offers are often turned down. (tangent - in my opinion
donations should be accepted more liberally and if the Debian
administrators can not be bothered to administer yet another
On Thursday 29 December 2005 14.45, Finn-Arne Johansen wrote:
Would it not be enough for apt if d-i created an fstab that linked
/dev/hdX - /media/cdrom ?
Won't work because the problem at hand is exactly that /dev/hdX won't
necessarily be stable anymore.
(and, once more, and much worse:
On Dec 29, Adrian von Bidder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Won't work because the problem at hand is exactly that /dev/hdX won't
necessarily be stable anymore.
No: the /dev/[sh]d* devices are as stable as they have always been.
ONLY rules using %e (the /dev/cdrom-like aliases) are unreliable.
On Thu, 29 Dec 2005, Marco d'Itri wrote:
On Dec 29, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No. I mean that it currently depends on makedeva while it should depend
on makedev | udev.
I see.
rng-tools postinst does this:
(cd /dev ./MAKEDEV hwrandom || ./MAKEDEV intel_rng ||
Greetings.
There are less than 80 packages in unstable still using it, and there
is an excellent package called debhelper which can do everything that
debmake does and probably much better, so it does not make much sense
to keep debmake alive forever.
Therefore, I hereby announce my Intention To
On Thu, 29 Dec 2005, Marco d'Itri wrote:
To prepare for the eventual removal of makedev, I propose that packages
currently depending on it will add an alternative dependency to udev.
Also, policy should be amended accordingly.
Er, why is makedev being removed? Please clue me in.
--
To
On Thu, 29 Dec 2005, Adrian von Bidder wrote:
Hi Milan, Jon,
As discussed, 'the Debian project' as such has huge difficulties accepting
hardware donations - offers are often turned down. (tangent - in my opinion
donations should be accepted more liberally and if the Debian
administrators
On Thu, Dec 29, 2005 at 07:13:05PM +0100, Santiago Vila wrote:
There are less than 80 packages in unstable still using it, and there
is an excellent package called debhelper which can do everything that
debmake does and probably much better, so it does not make much sense
to keep debmake alive
Daniel Kobras [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Corrin Lakeland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
gnubg
I've adopted gnubg with Corrin's permission and this is now fixed in the
version just uploaded yesterday.
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On Dec 29, Adam Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
To prepare for the eventual removal of makedev, I propose that packages
Er, why is makedev being removed? Please clue me in.
Eventual is the key word here.
Because /eventually/ it will not be needed anymore (at least by most
users, which then
On Thu, 29 Dec 2005, Marco d'Itri wrote:
On Dec 29, Adam Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
To prepare for the eventual removal of makedev, I propose that packages
Er, why is makedev being removed? Please clue me in.
Eventual is the key word here.
Because /eventually/ it will not be needed
On Thu, Dec 29, 2005 at 10:59:22AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
I've adopted gnubg with Corrin's permission and this is now fixed in the
version just uploaded yesterday.
Here's an updated and now hopefully complete list that also takes into
account build-depends-indep. Removing gnubg from the
On Dec 29, Adam Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Because /eventually/ it will not be needed anymore (at least by most
users, which then will be able to remove it from their systems).
Is there something to replace it, completely, in *all* situations?
udev, at least for the general case of users
I demand that Marco d'Itri may or may not have written...
On Dec 29, Adrian von Bidder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Won't work because the problem at hand is exactly that /dev/hdX won't
necessarily be stable anymore.
No: the /dev/[sh]d* devices are as stable as they have always been.
Which is,
On Thu, 29 Dec 2005, Marco d'Itri wrote:
On Dec 29, Adam Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Because /eventually/ it will not be needed anymore (at least by most
users, which then will be able to remove it from their systems).
Is there something to replace it, completely, in *all*
I demand that Benjamin Seidenberg may or may not have written...
[snip]
I read 120.000 as 120 dollars, I'm not used to the European '.' as the
seperator, but the US ','.
Hmm? You'd better file a bug against locales wrt en_GB, then ;-)
--
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|
On Thu, 29 Dec 2005, Adam Heath wrote:
On Thu, 29 Dec 2005, Marco d'Itri wrote:
On Dec 29, Adam Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Because /eventually/ it will not be needed anymore (at least by most
users, which then will be able to remove it from their systems).
Is there something
On Thu, Dec 29, 2005 at 05:55:03PM +0100, Adrian von Bidder wrote:
On Thursday 29 December 2005 14.45, Finn-Arne Johansen wrote:
Would it not be enough for apt if d-i created an fstab that linked
/dev/hdX - /media/cdrom ?
Won't work because the problem at hand is exactly that /dev/hdX
Yaroslav == Yaroslav Halchenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Yaroslav rsh node19 '/bin/echo ; /bin/echo 123'
Yaroslav rsh node19 /bin/sh -c '/bin/echo ; /bin/echo 123'
I think the problem has already been explained.
The solutions appear to be:
* rsh node19 '/bin/echo ;
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On Thu, 29 Dec 2005, Marco d'Itri wrote:
On Dec 29, Adam Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How does persistance of the permission model work? Can I do chown/chmod on
the dynamic files in /dev, and have them
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Ben Hutchings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* Package name: maypole
Version : 2.10
Upstream Author : Simon Cozens [EMAIL PROTECTED] and others
* URL : http://maypole.cpan.org/
* License : dual GPL/Artistic
Description : Perl
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Ben Hutchings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* Package name: memories
Version : 1.1
Upstream Author : Simon Cozens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* URL : http://maypole.perl.org/?Applications
* License : to be established
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On Thu, Dec 29, 2005 at 07:13:05PM +0100, Santiago Vila wrote:
Stage 2. Please switch away from debmake.
This is the stage that starts today. So, everybody please, switch away
from debmake. [...]
*) If you are the maintainer of lintian or a similar tool, you are welcome
to add a check that
There is already a libgpod0 package on Christian Marillat's archive, so I
guess there must be an issue regarding this package's relation with debian.
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On Fri, 30 Dec 2005, Roger Leigh wrote:
How does persistance of the permission model work? Can I do chown/chmod on
the dynamic files in /dev, and have them remain the next time? Even if a
device node changes it's name? Or do I have to edit some alternative
database?
You edit or add
Adam Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That's the wrong answer.
What ever happened to standard unix tools? chmod/mkdir/chown/mv?
You're suggesting doing things like some other OS(like Windows, were you have
to edit a registry).
Indeed. Editing plain text configuration files has never been
Finn-Arne Johansen wrote:
Would it not be enough for apt if d-i created an fstab that linked
/dev/hdX - /media/cdrom ?
Hmm, that's what it does, so maybe things will be ok. I don't know
really what else might depend on there being a /dev/cdrom.
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Matthew Garrett wrote:
Indeed. Editing plain text configuration files has never been the Unix
way, and vi certainly isn't a standard unix tool.
I think the right question for him to ask is, what ever happened to the
unix way?
chmod, chown, etc. are all simple tools that do one job and do it
On Fri, 30 Dec 2005, Matthew Garrett wrote:
Adam Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That's the wrong answer.
What ever happened to standard unix tools? chmod/mkdir/chown/mv?
You're suggesting doing things like some other OS(like Windows, were you
have
to edit a registry).
Indeed.
On Thu, Dec 29, 2005 at 11:55:17PM -0300, Felipe Sateler wrote:
There is already a libgpod0 package on Christian Marillat's archive, so I
guess there must be an issue regarding this package's relation with debian.
I can see no evidence for that, especially since most of the code
is already in
The following is a listing of packages for which help has been requested
through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the
last week.
Total number of orphaned packages: 172 (new: 3)
Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 96 (new: 1)
Total number of packages
On Fri, Dec 30, 2005 at 12:40:37AM -0600, Adam Heath wrote:
Indeed. Editing plain text configuration files has never been the Unix
way, and vi certainly isn't a standard unix tool.
No, I'm saying why are people attempting to replace what already works with
something new and obfusicated?
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