On Fri, Feb 17, 2006 at 08:23:49AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote :
On Fri, Feb 17, 2006 at 10:05:25AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
Bonjour à tous,
Je prépare actuellement un paquet pour une petite application graphique,
qui fournit un binaire sans page de manuel[1]. Je vais donc en écrire
On Fri, Feb 17, 2006 at 11:55:22PM +0100, Guerkan Senguen wrote:
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
* Package name: freebsd-manpages
Version : 6.0
Upstream Author : The FreeBSD Project
* URL :
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/6.0-RELEASE/manpages/
On Sat, Feb 18, 2006 at 09:02:57AM +0100, Javier Fern?ndez-Sanguino Pe?a wrote:
On Fri, Feb 17, 2006 at 11:55:22PM +0100, Guerkan Senguen wrote:
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
* Package name: freebsd-manpages
Version : 6.0
Wouldn't this package conflict with the
On Fri, Feb 17, 2006 at 08:14:38PM -0500, Michael Poole wrote:
Then please work to revise [Removed false premise fallacy]
Last time your argument was that free NDIS drivers exist, so the situation is
analogous to wine. Nobody bothered to check, but it turns out that only one
free driver
On Sat, Feb 18, 2006 at 03:30:38AM -0500, Kevin Mark wrote:
On Sat, Feb 18, 2006 at 09:02:57AM +0100, Javier Fern?ndez-Sanguino Pe?a
wrote:
On Fri, Feb 17, 2006 at 11:55:22PM +0100, Guerkan Senguen wrote:
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
* Package name: freebsd-manpages
El sáb, 18-02-2006 a las 09:40 +0100, Robert Millan escribió:
On Fri, Feb 17, 2006 at 08:14:38PM -0500, Michael Poole wrote:
Then please work to revise [Removed false premise fallacy]
Last time your argument was that free NDIS drivers exist, so the situation is
analogous to wine. Nobody
On Sat, Feb 18, 2006 at 09:42:19AM +0100, David Weinehall wrote:
On Sat, Feb 18, 2006 at 03:30:38AM -0500, Kevin Mark wrote:
On Sat, Feb 18, 2006 at 09:02:57AM +0100, Javier Fern?ndez-Sanguino Pe?a
wrote:
On Fri, Feb 17, 2006 at 11:55:22PM +0100, Guerkan Senguen wrote:
Package: wnpp
Hello,
I want to replace the upstream part of cflow by GNU cflow. Any comments
on that are welcome on this bug report : http://bugs.debian.org/353192
Regards,
Bart Martens
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On Sat, Feb 18, 2006 at 09:40:26AM +0100, Robert Millan wrote:
I'll ask again: Is the purpose of ndiswrapper running non-free drivers? If
it
isn't, show me a free, non-toy, non-POC driver that would prove otherwise.
Does the lack of a free driver which can be used with ndiswrapper mean
that
On Sat, Feb 18, 2006 at 12:49:48PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
On Sat, Feb 18, 2006 at 09:40:26AM +0100, Robert Millan wrote:
I'll ask again: Is the purpose of ndiswrapper running non-free drivers?
If it
isn't, show me a free, non-toy, non-POC driver that would prove otherwise.
Does
Robert Millan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Is your point that contrib should therefore be empty and has no reason for
existance?
If not, please explain me the difference between ndiswrapper and all the other
packages that belong to contrib and already are in.
Contrib is for free packages that
On 7/13/05, Andrew Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 2005-07-13 at 14:44 +0100, Andrew Porter wrote:
ATT have released the source to ksh93 under the CPL (Common Public
Licence)
Are there any plans to create a debian package ?
Bah - just found a package in unstable for it already
Robert Millan writes:
Policy:
2.2.2 The contrib section
[...]
Examples of packages which would be included in contrib are:
Here's the part that you left out:
* free packages which require contrib, non-free packages or packages
which are not in our archive at all for compilation or
Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo writes:
...we should start by removing GPG signatures and md5sums from main, as
those are invariant bits.
GPG signatures and md5sums are not licensed under non-free terms (in fact,
they are probably not protected by copyright at all). You are free to
change and/or
On Sat, Feb 18, 2006 at 08:46:53AM -0500, Michael Poole wrote:
But nasm requires such assembly for useful execution!
Dude, you're on crack. First, there's apparently free software in
main that you can compile with nasm to your heart's content, namely
crystalspace, drip, e3, effectv, extipl,
Anthony Towns writes:
But even if that weren't the case, nasm is an assembler -- it doesn't
rely on assembler code to do anything useful, its purpose is to translate
assembler code. ndiswrapper isn't a driver compiler, it's a wrapper to
allow existing drivers to run on Linux.
This apparently
Le samedi 18 février 2006 à 09:59 -0500, Michael Poole a écrit :
Anthony Towns writes:
But even if that weren't the case, nasm is an assembler -- it doesn't
rely on assembler code to do anything useful, its purpose is to translate
assembler code. ndiswrapper isn't a driver compiler, it's
Josselin Mouette writes:
Le samedi 18 février 2006 à 09:59 -0500, Michael Poole a écrit :
Anthony Towns writes:
But even if that weren't the case, nasm is an assembler -- it doesn't
rely on assembler code to do anything useful, its purpose is to translate
assembler code.
Robert Millan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Fri, Feb 17, 2006 at 12:40:10PM -0500, Andres Salomon wrote:
On Fri, 2006-02-17 at 18:00 +0100, Robert Millan wrote:
[...]
First, I couldn't find any reference to a GPLed NDIS driver in
ndiswrapper's
website, like Michael Poole asserts:
la, 2006-02-18 kello 10:43 -0500, Michael Poole kirjoitti:
What's the purpose of an assembler without assembly code to use it on?
It can be used, for example, to assemble code you write yourself. That
is, after all, the primary purpose of programming tools: to help
programmers develop programs.
On Sat, Feb 18, 2006 at 05:04:54PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
I see. From http://cipe-win32.sourceforge.net/ :
CIPE-Win32 is a port of Olaf Titz's CIPE package from Linux to Windows
NT.
I think this is the cipe-source package in debian. If this driver is
already
On Sat, Feb 18, 2006 at 09:59:07AM -0500, Michael Poole wrote:
Anthony Towns writes:
But even if that weren't the case, nasm is an assembler -- it doesn't
rely on assembler code to do anything useful, its purpose is to translate
assembler code. ndiswrapper isn't a driver compiler, it's a
On Sat, Feb 18, 2006 at 05:04:54PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow
The availability to do this is enough even if there are other
(possibly better) ways to do the same. One free driver _in_ Debian and
the package should stay in main.
But does the cipe-source build or ship the windows driver for
Anthony Towns writes:
On Sat, Feb 18, 2006 at 09:59:07AM -0500, Michael Poole wrote:
Anthony Towns writes:
But even if that weren't the case, nasm is an assembler -- it doesn't
rely on assembler code to do anything useful, its purpose is to translate
assembler code. ndiswrapper isn't
On Sat, Feb 18, 2006 at 05:36:37PM +0100, Mike Hommey wrote:
On Sat, Feb 18, 2006 at 05:04:54PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow
The availability to do this is enough even if there are other
(possibly better) ways to do the same. One free driver _in_ Debian and
the package should stay in main.
Brett Parker writes:
On Sat, Feb 18, 2006 at 05:36:37PM +0100, Mike Hommey wrote:
On Sat, Feb 18, 2006 at 05:04:54PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow
The availability to do this is enough even if there are other
(possibly better) ways to do the same. One free driver _in_ Debian and
the
Do you have a program that can change .rm to mp3 or wave files? If yes, how can I get one?ThanksPeter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Sat, Feb 18, 2006 at 09:29:52AM -0800, Peter Khwatenge wrote:
Do you have a program that can change .rm to mp3 or wave files? If
yes, how can I get one?
This question is inappropriate for this list, please ask on
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Michael
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Le samedi 18 février 2006 à 17:36 +0100, Mike Hommey a écrit :
Which means you need some software (even if it is free) from outside
Debian for ndiswraper. That makes it contrib imho.
Are there any free MSWord files in main ? No ? Then please move
antiword and similar tools to contrib.
If
First, I couldn't find any reference to a GPLed NDIS driver in
ndiswrapper's
website, like Michael Poole asserts:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/01/msg00381.html
I assume he was talking about the CIPE driver; it's linked right from
the main ndiswrapper page.
Why on
Sorry to change the topic, but looking at some of the manpages in the
manpages package,
and some of the pages in the manpages-dev causes me no notice some pages
that look like they probably should be in a different package.
ld-linux(8)
ld-linux.so(8)
These probably belong in libc6 which
On Sat, Feb 18, 2006 at 09:29:52AM -0800, Peter Khwatenge wrote:
Do you have a program that can change .rm to mp3 or wave files? If yes, how
can I get one?
Thanks
Peter
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Hi Peter,
there is software to do this but your questions should be asked on the
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On Sat, 18 Feb 2006, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Come on, please stop arguing with random, unsuited comparisons, and use
common sense : what's the purpose of ndiswrapper without non-free
drivers to use it on? We've always put things of the like in
Le samedi 18 février 2006 à 23:08 +0100, Arthur de Jong a écrit :
Would the situation change (contrib-wise) if ndiswrapper were integrated
into the kernel? Would we want to split the ndiswrapper part to contrib
then?
In this case, the ndiswrapper functionality would become optional for
the
On Feb 18, Josselin Mouette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The same goes for a driver with a firmware.
Drivers do not have a firmware, hardware devices do.
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Am Samstag, 18. Februar 2006 23:08 schrieb Arthur de Jong:
On Sat, 18 Feb 2006, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Come on, please stop arguing with random, unsuited comparisons, and use
common sense : what's the purpose of ndiswrapper without non-free
drivers to use it on? We've always put things of
Le samedi 18 février 2006 à 23:34 +0100, Marco d'Itri a écrit :
On Feb 18, Josselin Mouette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The same goes for a driver with a firmware.
Drivers do not have a firmware, hardware devices do.
Really? So all these drivers that come with an integrated firmware don't
Le samedi 18 février 2006 à 23:37 +0100, Hendrik Sattler a écrit :
Maybe Debian should take one or two steps back to the point where it
only requires source for something that can actually be compiled with
something in Debian.
Ahem... so, to force the trait, you mean we could distribute any
Am Samstag, 18. Februar 2006 23:43 schrieb Josselin Mouette:
Le samedi 18 février 2006 à 23:37 +0100, Hendrik Sattler a écrit :
Maybe Debian should take one or two steps back to the point where it
only requires source for something that can actually be compiled with
something in Debian.
Le dimanche 19 février 2006 à 00:30 +0100, Hendrik Sattler a écrit :
So let me make it more precise: only source for something that can actually
be
compiled and runs on a system's host CPU.
Me just doesn't get the rationale behind differing between firmware in a PROM
and firmware that the
Le dimanche 19 février 2006 à 00:30 +0100, Hendrik Sattler a écrit :
Me just doesn't get the rationale behind differing between firmware in a PROM
and firmware that the driver loads into the hardware. There is none.
Oh, and please, dear trolls, stop raising the firmwares-in-main banner
in each
On Sat, Feb 18, 2006 at 08:24:32PM +0100, Olaf Titz wrote:
First, I couldn't find any reference to a GPLed NDIS driver in
ndiswrapper's
website, like Michael Poole asserts:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/01/msg00381.html
I assume he was talking about the CIPE driver;
Joe Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Sorry to change the topic, but looking at some of the manpages in the
manpages package, and some of the pages in the manpages-dev causes
me no notice some pages that look like they probably should be in a
different package.
Your points about sync(8) and
On Feb 19, Josselin Mouette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I wonder why all people go on trying to build up tons of different
fallacious reasonings to keep firmwares in main.
Because it's good for Debian and is good for our users.
Non-free is here for a
reason, we just have to use it. Technical
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) writes:
On Feb 19, Josselin Mouette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I wonder why all people go on trying to build up tons of different
fallacious reasonings to keep firmwares in main.
Because it's good for Debian and is good for our users.
Regardless, we already
Hendrik Sattler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You definitely didn't get the point! It's about the target architecture, not
the system. Even if you actually _have_ the source, you could not compile
with _any_ compiler you have at hand.
This is not what the DFSG says. The DSFG says that all the
Josselin Mouette writes:
Le dimanche 19 février 2006 à 00:30 +0100, Hendrik Sattler a écrit :
So let me make it more precise: only source for something that can actually
be
compiled and runs on a system's host CPU.
Me just doesn't get the rationale behind differing between firmware in
Scripsit Gunnar Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Xavier Roche dijo [Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 10:55:57AM +0100]:
So a cat is a software, or a hardware ? Do I have to provide the sources
(the DNA full sequence) if I want to give a kitten to someone, following
the free spirit ? :p
A cat is not licensed
Michael Poole [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Sure. The unfortunate side effect is that some reasonable fraction of
people who would use those drivers cannot install from install media
that contain only Debian. They require bits of non-free. As is often
pointed out, Debian has chosen (twice) to
Henning Makholm wrote:
Scripsit Gunnar Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Xavier Roche dijo [Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 10:55:57AM +0100]:
So a cat is a software, or a hardware ? Do I have to provide the sources
(the DNA full sequence) if I want to give a kitten to someone, following
the free
Le dimanche 19 février 2006 à 01:52 +0100, Marco d'Itri a écrit :
On Feb 19, Josselin Mouette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I wonder why all people go on trying to build up tons of different
fallacious reasonings to keep firmwares in main.
Because it's good for Debian and is good for our users.
Le samedi 18 février 2006 à 21:32 -0500, Michael Poole a écrit :
I wonder why all people go on trying to build up tons of different
fallacious reasonings to keep firmwares in main. Non-free is here for a
reason, we just have to use it. Technical solutions to have the driver
in the kernel
[Hendrik Sattler]
Me just doesn't get the rationale behind differing between firmware
in a PROM and firmware that the driver loads into the hardware.
There is none.
Good, then we can stop talking about including it in main. We don't
ship hardware, so if firmware is part of the hardware, we
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