On Sun, Aug 27, 2006 at 01:05:56AM -0400, Theodore Tso [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I agree that it would be nice if ifplugd or laptop-net were installed
by default, but last I checked Debian didn't install either by
default, either. So what's your point?
Aren't they part of the laptop task,
Adeodato == Adeodato =?utf-8?B?U2ltw7M=?= [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Robert Could you please run 'bzr upgrade' while using bzr
Robert 0.9rc1. If my guess at your situation is right this will
Robert take a while to run, but correct your performance issues.
Did I do something
On Aug 27, Daniel Dickinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I know previously I said I thought that firmware didn't matter for
freeness, but I've been convinced by the arguments here that I was
wrong. Anyway, what I really wanted to say is that as a user (who
hopes to get time to contribute, maybe
On Sat, Aug 26, 2006 at 11:09:39PM -0400, Daniel Dickinson wrote:
I know previously I said I thought that firmware didn't matter for
freeness, but I've been convinced by the arguments here that I was
wrong. Anyway, what I really wanted to say is [...]
I don't think this is on-topic on
Am Sonntag 27 August 2006 07:05 schrieb Theodore Tso:
On Sat, Aug 26, 2006 at 04:02:04PM +0200, Hendrik Sattler wrote:
- installer did not read in the CDs for package lists and the GUI does
not even support this (or for any other means of modifying
/etc/apt/sources.list)
From the
So can we do this? Load kernel modules or even extra udebs from a
CD/floppy/usb stick/URL that the user provides during the installation
process?
Now I think about it, I seem to remember doing this back with
boot-floppies, to get an e1000 network controller to be recognised by the
installer,
On Thu, Aug 24, 2006 at 01:45:26AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
[...] upstream considered it completely unacceptable for anyone to
ship python in such a state that users would end up with less than the
full python suite installed on their system. [...]
In fairness, Perl upstream had similar
On Sun, Aug 27, 2006 at 12:03:25PM +0200, Hendrik Sattler wrote:
Am Sonntag 27 August 2006 07:05 schrieb Theodore Tso:
From the menubar. System -- Administration -- Synaptic Package Manager
Funny, Synaptic was not installed but something called adept. Guess what you
have to do to install
Hendrik Sattler wrote:
- something useful like ifplugd was not installed and the user was
puzzled by the fact that plugging in the network cable did not
result in network access
I agree that it would be nice if ifplugd or laptop-net were installed
by default, but last I checked Debian didn't
maybe backports should be considered a 1st class part of Debian; so
in addition to old-stable, stable, testing, and unstable, we could
add, stable-useful. The fact of the matter is that the stable
distribution today is pretty much useless for desktop users, and
useless for people who need to
This stuff did not even exist when Sarge was released. Half of userland would
not fit this hardware, so who cares.
Everyone who would like to install a stable Debian release on hardware
currently available for purchase.
And this non-free stuff is nothing to discuss about.
Good for you -
[It's been a while since this message hit the debtags-devel list, thus I
include an almost full quote as well as CCing the participants of the
discussion, please follow up on debtags-devel@ or CC it in responses]
[Response below]
On Mon, 2006-07-31 at 17:14 +, Thaddeus H. Black wrote:
The
Version: 0.9-1
* Brian May [Sun, 27 Aug 2006 17:43:24 +1000]:
Robert Could you please run 'bzr upgrade' while using bzr
Robert 0.9rc1. If my guess at your situation is right this will
Robert take a while to run, but correct your performance issues.
Did I do something wrong?
Marco d'Itri wrote:
So you clearly show to not understand the issue: almost every piece of
hardware uses a non-free firmware. Either uploaded after power-on or
semi-permanently stored on it.
But then again, Debian doesn't ship that hardware.
--
Felipe Sateler
--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to
Lørdag 26 august 2006 15:15, skrev Theodore Tso:
No support for: (The * are critical)
* SATA Hard Drives (*)
* IPW3945 wireless (*)
* Intel AD1981 HD Audio (*)
* 3D Graphics support on the ATI FireGL V5200 card
(propietary kernel module)
Is the mailing list software on Alioth broken or misconfigured? If I
send from any host on my network other than the one which happens to be
the mail server, I get this error when I send to an Alioth list:
Aug 27 17:26:48 santiago postfix/smtp[23682]: 4A8002403D:
to=[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Am Sonntag 27 August 2006 23:30 schrieb Knut Yrvin:
A list of version numbers on important software packages on the test
version of Debian-edu/Skolelinux (The Kubuntu Dapper version number in
parenthesis):
- Kernel 2.16.2 (2.6.15)
That cannot be correct.
HS
On 8/28/06, Hendrik Sattler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Am Sonntag 27 August 2006 23:30 schrieb Knut Yrvin:
A list of version numbers on important software packages on the test
version of Debian-edu/Skolelinux (The Kubuntu Dapper version number in
parenthesis):
- Kernel 2.16.2 (2.6.15)
That
Søndag 27 august 2006 23:48, skrev Hendrik Sattler:
- Kernel 2.16.2 (2.6.15)
That cannot be correct.
Correction. I forgot the digit #6 :
Kernel 2.6.16-2 (2.6.15)
- K
This one time, at band camp, Roberto C. Sanchez said:
Is the mailing list software on Alioth broken or misconfigured? If I
send from any host on my network other than the one which happens to be
the mail server, I get this error when I send to an Alioth list:
Aug 27 17:26:48 santiago
On 08/26/06 03:26:12PM +, Sam Morris wrote:
On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 16:02:04 +0200, Hendrik Sattler wrote:
Am Samstag 26 August 2006 15:15 schrieb Theodore Tso:
No support for: (The * are critical)
* SATA Hard Drives (*)
* Intel AD1981 HD Audio (*)
This stuff did not even
On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 02:18:12AM +0100, Stephen Gran wrote:
This one time, at band camp, Roberto C. Sanchez said:
Is the mailing list software on Alioth broken or misconfigured? If I
send from any host on my network other than the one which happens to be
the mail server, I get this error
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Jim Crilly wrote:
On 08/26/06 03:26:12PM +, Sam Morris wrote:
On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 16:02:04 +0200, Hendrik Sattler wrote:
Am Samstag 26 August 2006 15:15 schrieb Theodore Tso:
No support for: (The * are critical)
* SATA Hard Drives (*) *
Adeodato == Adeodato =?utf-8?B?U2ltw7M=?= [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Adeodato Hm. I'd say that you have .pyc files left in:
Adeodato
Adeodato /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/bzrlib/plugins/bzrtools
Adeodato Can you check, please?
Yes, see below.
Adeodate Also, do you
* Brian May [Mon, 28 Aug 2006 13:22:55 +1000]:
Adeodate Also, do you remember having root
Adeodato bzr as root?
Huh?
Sorry, that should have read: do you remember having *run* bzr as root.
It's the most likely cause for those .pyc files to be there, since
bzrtools did not.
Thanks,
On Sun August 27 2006 06:47, Sander Marechal wrote:
Hendrik Sattler wrote:
It's all about expectations. Always keep in mind that the target
group differs a lot between Ubuntu and Debian.
I wouldn't say they differ. Ubuntu targets only a small subset of
Debian users. Maybe Debian should
On Sun, Aug 27, 2006 at 10:37:58PM -0600, Bruce Sass wrote:
On Sun August 27 2006 06:47, Sander Marechal wrote:
* Desktop - basic: Simple minimal GNOME installation pretty much as
it is now, maybe with even less software preinstalled. (I was
surprised by the ammount of software that came
On 8/28/06, Roberto C. Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What the message suggests to me is that the other machines in your
domain should be using address rewriting if they are sending from
unroutable addresses.
Except that there are multiple domains hosted from my network. Which
should I
* Martijn van Oosterhout [Mon, 28 Aug 2006 07:22:40 +0200]:
I'm not 100% sure, but I don't think it matters what domain, the
address just has to exist. I think that they're checking your Sender
header (which is where bounces get sent) for validity.
Almost. They're checking his envelope-from
David Nusinow wrote:
On Sun, Aug 27, 2006 at 10:37:58PM -0600, Bruce Sass wrote:
On Sun August 27 2006 06:47, Sander Marechal wrote:
* Desktop - basic: Simple minimal GNOME installation pretty much as
it is now, maybe with even less software preinstalled. (I was
surprised by the ammount of
On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 07:22:40AM +0200, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote:
I'm not 100% sure, but I don't think it matters what domain, the
address just has to exist. I think that they're checking your Sender
header (which is where bounces get sent) for validity. I remember
dealing with this
On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 07:38:56AM +0200, Adeodato Simó wrote:
* Martijn van Oosterhout [Mon, 28 Aug 2006 07:22:40 +0200]:
I'm not 100% sure, but I don't think it matters what domain, the
address just has to exist. I think that they're checking your Sender
header (which is where bounces
Adeodato == Adeodato =?utf-8?B?U2ltw7M=?= [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Adeodato Sorry, that should have read: do you remember having
Adeodato *run* bzr as root. It's the most likely cause for
Adeodato those .pyc files to be there, since bzrtools did not.
No - I don't recall running
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