Package web-sso

2007-06-11 Thread Xavier Guimard
Bonsoir, je développe depuis pas mal de temps le websso Lemonldap::NG (récriture complète de Lemonldap). Les sources incluent le packaging Debian et j'aimerai savoir s'il y aurait une bonne âme DD pour estimer mon travail. Tout est là: deb http://lemonldap.objectweb.org/NG/debian testing/

Re: APT 0.7 for sid

2007-06-11 Thread Christian Perrier
upgrade path for two releases now, with its Recommends: handling being a major reason for this. I'd be surprised if there weren't at least *some* users switching to it as a result. Developer users probably. The ones that resist are more non-developer users. I'm constantly being annoyed at

Re: APT 0.7 for sid

2007-06-11 Thread Alexander Wirt
Michael Vogt schrieb am Montag, den 11. Juni 2007: Hi, *snip* [..] - automatic installation of recommends like aptitude [..] This is currently turned off because of the concerns raised. its a matter of changing the default of APT::Install-Recommends to true. I want to turn it on by

Re: APT 0.7 for sid

2007-06-11 Thread Frank Küster
Christian Perrier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another widely misunderstood feature of aptitude is the ability to handle packages installed as dependencies. It's pretty often badly understoood and leads to horror stories floating around of aptitude wants to remove half of the system while the

Re: Large static datasets like genomes (Re: Reasonable maximum package size ?)

2007-06-11 Thread Tim Cutts
On 10 Jun 2007, at 6:38 pm, Steffen Moeller wrote: On Sunday 10 June 2007 17:20:54 you wrote: On 9 Jun 2007, at 11:27 am, Steffen Moeller wrote: Once a (computational) biologist starts a new project, (s)he wants the latest data no matter what and anything older than three months (or a week

Re: APT 0.7 for sid

2007-06-11 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Mon, 11 Jun 2007, Alexander Wirt wrote: I want to turn it on by default in the near future, but with a reasonable warning time for the transition. Please never make it a default. Humans make errors and I never want packages installed by default. I consider this really a dangerous option

Re: Bug#428256: ITP: ffrenzy -- Multiplayer platform with dwarfs fighting with/for food

2007-06-11 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Jun 10, 2007 at 10:41:43AM +0200, Paul van Tilburg wrote: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Paul van Tilburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Package name: ffrenzy Version : 1.0.2 Upstream Authors: Bas Kloet [EMAIL PROTECTED], Christian Luijten [EMAIL PROTECTED],

Bug#428381: ftp.debian.org: proposed-updates is not part of release a=stable

2007-06-11 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Package: ftp.debian.org Severity: normal Since proposed-updates contain only approved updates for the next stable release it make sense to add it to the sources.lists (at least for some users). I have done so and I'm discovering a little quirk related to its use. Until now I had etch +

Using standardized SI prefixes

2007-06-11 Thread shirish
Hi all, Please look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_prefix . I put a bug up for it https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/119822 Aaron helpfully said it needs more discussion. I have had great support from libtorrent code.rasterbar.com as well as the guys at deluge

Using standardized SI prefixes

2007-06-11 Thread shirish
Ugh, The second example I wanted to give was of libburnia http://libburnia-project.org/changeset/877 . Sorry -- Shirish Agarwal This email is licensed under http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/ 065C 6D79 A68C E7EA 52B3 8D70 950D 53FB 729A 8B17 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: APT 0.7 for sid

2007-06-11 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 11 Jun 2007, Alexander Wirt wrote: Please never make it a default. Humans make errors and I never want packages Recommends *are* to be installed by default, unless you specifically tell the tool not to. This is the whole point, one that has been broken for a few *years* now and has

Re: APT 0.7 for sid

2007-06-11 Thread Michael Banck
On Sun, Jun 10, 2007 at 06:08:44PM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: Really? I'd have guessed that most people used aptitude. I can't imagine anyone preferring synaptic to aptitude. Of course, I don't really understand why anyone prefers [any graphical MUA] to mutt, or [any graphical newsreader]

Re: APT 0.7 for sid

2007-06-11 Thread paddy
On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 01:01:18PM +0200, Gabor Gombas wrote: On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 11:36:57AM +0100, Luis Matos wrote: i have 2 servers that i only login for apt-get update apt-get upgrade -y, they are running sarge (yet) and only install security upgrades. These 2 server will not

Re: Using standardized SI prefixes

2007-06-11 Thread Bastian Venthur
shirish wrote: Hi all, Please look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_prefix . I put a bug up for it https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/119822 Aaron helpfully said it needs more discussion. I have had great support from libtorrent code.rasterbar.com as well as the guys at deluge

Re: Using standardized SI prefixes

2007-06-11 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le lundi 11 juin 2007 à 18:27 +0530, shirish a écrit : Hi all, Please look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_prefix . I put a bug up for it https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/119822 Aaron helpfully said it needs more discussion. I have had great support from libtorrent

ITP: pysycache-- Educational game to teach children to move the mouse

2007-06-11 Thread L. Redrejo
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: José L. Redrejo Rodríguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Package name: pysycache Version : 3.0.1 Upstream Author : Vincent Deroo [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://www.pysycache.org/ * License : GPL Description : Educational

The Shell: arithmetic comparison with void

2007-06-11 Thread Oleg Verych
If was time, where string comparisons with void were ... with features. |-*- if [ x$a = 'x|' ]; then |-*- Yet arithmetic ones are still with them: |-*- [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp$ bash -c test '' -eq 0 ; echo \$? bash: line 0: test: : integer expression expected 2 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp$

Re: Using standardized SI prefixes

2007-06-11 Thread Magnus Holmgren
On Monday 11 June 2007 14:57, shirish wrote: Please look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_prefix . I put a bug up for it https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/119822 Aaron helpfully said it needs more discussion. I have had great support from libtorrent code.rasterbar.com as well

Re: Using standardized SI prefixes

2007-06-11 Thread Bastian Venthur
Magnus Holmgren wrote: I'm in favour! (But are you requesting that aptitude use SI prefixes correctly, or that it use IEC (binary) prefixes? I think we should go for the binary prefixes. Users will be confused when they read 1k and notice that the package has 'just' 1000 bytes. Plus, the

Re: APT 0.7 for sid

2007-06-11 Thread Michael Biebl
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Mon, 11 Jun 2007, Alexander Wirt wrote: Please never make it a default. Humans make errors and I never want packages Recommends *are* to be installed by default, unless you specifically tell the tool not to. This is the whole point, one that has been

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Re: Reasonable maximum package size ?

2007-06-11 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 11:31:37AM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 10:27:26AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: Diskspace *is* a problem for mirrors, as is bandwidth in many countries. Also, you should think about this issue not just in the context of the single package you

Re: Using standardized SI prefixes

2007-06-11 Thread Jean-Christophe Dubacq
On Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 05:14:18PM +0200, Bastian Venthur wrote: Magnus Holmgren wrote: I'm in favour! (But are you requesting that aptitude use SI prefixes correctly, or that it use IEC (binary) prefixes? I think we should go for the binary prefixes. Users will be confused when they

Re: APT 0.7 for sid

2007-06-11 Thread Alexander Wirt
Raphael Hertzog schrieb am Montag, den 11. Juni 2007: On Mon, 11 Jun 2007, Alexander Wirt wrote: I want to turn it on by default in the near future, but with a reasonable warning time for the transition. Please never make it a default. Humans make errors and I never want packages

Re: Using standardized SI prefixes

2007-06-11 Thread Miles Bader
shirish [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It isn't just ubuntu or debian but this needs to be done everywhere. No it doesn't. The SI binary prefixes are an abomination. Kibibytes? Christ... [Did they try pronouncing these horrid things when standarizing them?!?] -Miles -- We are all lying in

Re: APT 0.7 for sid

2007-06-11 Thread Michael Banck
Hi, On Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 05:39:54PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: FWIW, synaptic has an option in its preferences dialog called Consider recommended packages as dependencies, which is off by default. I completely agree, to treat Recommends as weak dependencies and install them by default

Re: Using standardized SI prefixes

2007-06-11 Thread Magnus Holmgren
On Monday 11 June 2007 18:53, Miles Bader wrote: shirish [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It isn't just ubuntu or debian but this needs to be done everywhere. No it doesn't. The SI binary prefixes are an abomination. Why - besides pronunciation? -- Magnus Holmgren[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Using standardized SI prefixes

2007-06-11 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 07:05:23PM +0200, Magnus Holmgren wrote: Why - besides pronunciation? Aren't the names enough? :) Maybe they could have called them Kilobin bytes and Megabin bytes or something somewhat less awful sounding that they came up with. Did they even talk to anyone that might

Re: Using standardized SI prefixes

2007-06-11 Thread Joey Hess
I prefer not to use these new prefixes, because the old ones only became confused due to the efforts of drive manufacturers. Who are perfectly capable (and equally financially motivated) of pulling the same trick with the new units, standards body or no. Also, the ib prefixes sound stupid.

Re: Reasonable maximum package size ?

2007-06-11 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, Jun 10, 2007 at 06:59:49PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 11:31:37AM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 10:27:26AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: Diskspace *is* a problem for mirrors, as is bandwidth in many countries. Also,

Re: APT 0.7 for sid

2007-06-11 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 07:03:47AM +0200, Christian Perrier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: upgrade path for two releases now, with its Recommends: handling being a major reason for this. I'd be surprised if there weren't at least *some* users switching to it as a result. Developer users

Re: Using standardized SI prefixes

2007-06-11 Thread Bastian Venthur
Joey Hess wrote: I prefer not to use these new prefixes, because the old ones only became confused due to the efforts of drive manufacturers. Who are perfectly capable (and equally financially motivated) of pulling the same trick with the new units, standards body or no. Also, the ib prefixes

Re: Reasonable maximum package size ?

2007-06-11 Thread Ron Johnson
On 06/11/07 12:28, Mike Hommey wrote: On Sun, Jun 10, 2007 at 06:59:49PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 11:31:37AM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 10:27:26AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: Diskspace *is* a problem for mirrors, as is

Re: APT 0.7 for sid

2007-06-11 Thread Steve Greenland
On 10-Jun-07, 20:16 (CDT), Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Jun 10, 2007 at 06:08:44PM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: On 10-Jun-07, 17:47 (CDT), Daniel Burrows [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since then, it seems like most users have switched to apt-get and synaptic, with hardly

Re: APT 0.7 for sid

2007-06-11 Thread Steve Greenland
On 11-Jun-07, 08:45 (CDT), Michael Banck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Jun 10, 2007 at 06:08:44PM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: Really? I'd have guessed that most people used aptitude. I can't imagine anyone preferring synaptic to aptitude. Of course, I don't really understand why

Re: Using standardized SI prefixes

2007-06-11 Thread Magnus Holmgren
On Monday 11 June 2007 19:26, Joey Hess wrote: I prefer not to use these new prefixes, because the old ones only became confused due to the efforts of drive manufacturers. Who are perfectly capable (and equally financially motivated) of pulling the same trick with the new units, standards body

Re: Using standardized SI prefixes

2007-06-11 Thread Nico Golde
Hi, * Bastian Venthur [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-06-11 20:09]: [...] Ok, sounds stupid and may not fit on 80 column screen. I agree with the sounds stupid part, although I don't belive this is a valid argument. What I don't believe is your 80 colums argument. Could you please name a few of

Re: Using standardized SI prefixes

2007-06-11 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Monday 11 June 2007 20:06, Bastian Venthur wrote: I agree with the sounds stupid part, although I don't belive this is a valid argument. What I don't believe is your 80 colums argument. Could you please name a few of the *many* programs which would have to drop information, precision, or

Re: Using standardized SI prefixes

2007-06-11 Thread Joey Hess
Bastian Venthur wrote: I agree with the sounds stupid part, although I don't belive this is a valid argument. It's a perfectly valid argument for me to use to ignore a bad standard. If the standard makes me talk funny, I will ignore it or make fun of it. (Bibibibibibibibibibib.) What I

Re: Using standardized SI prefixes

2007-06-11 Thread Magnus Holmgren
On Monday 11 June 2007 15:07, shirish wrote: Ugh, The second example I wanted to give was of libburnia http://libburnia-project.org/changeset/877 . Sorry Uh, tell them that kiB should be KiB. Don't ask me why. -- Magnus Holmgren[EMAIL PROTECTED] (No Cc

Re: Reasonable maximum package size ?

2007-06-11 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 07:28:13PM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: Actual data seems to show the cheap desktop disks are not worse than so-called server-class disks. My actual data does not back up your claim. Moreover, desktop-class hard disks never support hotplugging, which you really want for a

Re: Reasonable maximum package size ?

2007-06-11 Thread Warren Turkal
On Monday 11 June 2007 13:09:40 Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: That may be true when it comes to breakdowns.  However, I challenge you to show me a cheap desktop disk that is also SCSI or SAS *and* hotpluggable. While not SCSI or SAS, there are SATA controllers that support hotplugging drives. wt

Re: Using standardized SI prefixes

2007-06-11 Thread Joey Hess
Magnus Holmgren wrote: I don't believe that to be true. There are other computer-related contexts where SI prefixes aren't used for powers of two, although perhaps most of them don't involve bytes. For an average user, knowing two sets of prefixes should be easier than knowing exactly in

Re: Using standardized SI prefixes

2007-06-11 Thread Alex Queiroz
Hallo, On 6/11/07, Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, I hate that convention. K and k should only ever refer to 1024. Like in kg or km? -- -alex http://www.ventonegro.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL

Re: Using standardized SI prefixes

2007-06-11 Thread Joey Hess
Alex Queiroz wrote: Hallo, On 6/11/07, Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, I hate that convention. K and k should only ever refer to 1024. Like in kg or km? This thread is about units of data. -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Using standardized SI prefixes

2007-06-11 Thread Alex Queiroz
Hallo, On 6/11/07, Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alex Queiroz wrote: Hallo, On 6/11/07, Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, I hate that convention. K and k should only ever refer to 1024. Like in kg or km? This thread is about units of data. The prefix don't change

Re: Using standardized SI prefixes

2007-06-11 Thread Magnus Holmgren
On Monday 11 June 2007 21:25, Joey Hess wrote: Magnus Holmgren wrote: You seem to fancy the K-is-1024--k-is-1000 convention No, I hate that convention. K and k should only ever refer to 1024. In that case you're just sloppy. Prefixes and symbols for units are case sensitive. -- Magnus

Re: Using standardized SI prefixes

2007-06-11 Thread Magnus Holmgren
On Monday 11 June 2007 21:41, Joey Hess wrote: Alex Queiroz wrote: On 6/11/07, Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, I hate that convention. K and k should only ever refer to 1024. Like in kg or km? This thread is about units of data. kbit? kbit/s? kB/s? -- Magnus Holmgren

Re: Using standardized SI prefixes

2007-06-11 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le lundi 11 juin 2007 à 15:25 -0400, Joey Hess a écrit : You seem to fancy the K-is-1024--k-is-1000 convention No, I hate that convention. K and k should only ever refer to 1024. /me waits for the day measuring jugs are graduated in powers of two, just to please a group of hackers who don't

Re: Reasonable maximum package size ?

2007-06-11 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 01:24:34PM -0600, Warren Turkal wrote: On Monday 11 June 2007 13:09:40 Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: That may be true when it comes to breakdowns.  However, I challenge you to show me a cheap desktop disk that is also SCSI or SAS *and* hotpluggable. While not SCSI or

Re: Reasonable maximum package size ?

2007-06-11 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le lundi 11 juin 2007 à 21:16 +0100, Wouter Verhelst a écrit : The point wasn't that you can't set up a professional RAID array using cheap desktop hard disks; you can, if you really want to, though I wouldn't recommend it. And yes, you're completely free to ignore that particular advise, so

Enter Postpone

2007-06-11 Thread Christoph Berg
Hi, 316 + 0,9K Jun 10 22:32 Debian Installe cb+myon=de postpone_0.1_amd64.changes is NEW 320 + 0,4K Jun 11 12:30 Debian Installe cb+myon=de postpone_0.1_amd64.changes ACCEPTED looks like postpone got fast-tracked in the NEW queue (thanks Joerg!), so here's what I posted in my blog

SCSI drives for donation

2007-06-11 Thread Warren Turkal
I personally have 6 or 7 U320 73GB 10K RPM SCSI drives that I am not using for anything interesting. Can anyone tell me if these would be useful to Debian or recommend another free software group to donate them? Thanks, wt -- Warren Turkal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with

Re: arch-all-package shown with two versions on p.d.o

2007-06-11 Thread Frank Lichtenheld
On Sun, Jun 10, 2007 at 06:46:48PM +0200, Frank Küster wrote: Michael Banck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=tex-commonsearchon=namessubword=1version=allrelease=all Any idea? I have none, is anyone able to help? Is this a

Re: arch-all-package shown with two versions on p.d.o (was: Bug#427859: lmodern fails to configure on upgrade, dpkg error)

2007-06-11 Thread Frank Lichtenheld
On Sun, Jun 10, 2007 at 02:17:49PM +0200, Frank Küster wrote: Florent noticed that for tex-common, two versions are listed as being available in testing although the package is Arch: all: Florent Rougon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, I don't understand why both 1.0.1 and 1.7 are listed for

Re: Enter Postpone

2007-06-11 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 11 June 2007 22:36, Christoph Berg wrote: As a test implementation, I modified the post{inst,rm} templates in the tex-common package [2] and rebuilt texlive-lang-* using that. dpkg -i texlive-lang-*.deb takes over 4 minutes in the old version, but only a total of 60s with postpone

Upgrade of the pam library?

2007-06-11 Thread Laurent Bigonville
Hi, As a maintainer of a pam module (pam-keyring), I would like to know if there is any plan to upgrade the version of the libpam in lenny. The current version is antique (0.79 vs 0.99) and doesn't have some features as syslog logging... Regards Laurent pgpd9XLNhRqvV.pgp Description: PGP

Re: Using standardized SI prefixes

2007-06-11 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Montag 11 Juni 2007 22:15 schrieb Josselin Mouette: Le lundi 11 juin 2007 à 15:25 -0400, Joey Hess a écrit : You seem to fancy the K-is-1024--k-is-1000 convention No, I hate that convention. K and k should only ever refer to 1024. /me waits for the day measuring jugs are graduated in

Re: Using standardized SI prefixes

2007-06-11 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Mon, June 11, 2007 22:11, Eduard Bloch wrote: In either case, ~ 2 million bytes suits your requirement, or it doesn't. This sounds to me like solving a non-problem, unless you can of course tell me in which situations adding the B or iB in the field above would solve a real question.

Two proposals for a better Lenny (testing related).

2007-06-11 Thread Gustavo Franco
I would like to ask you interested in our next release to stop and look at 'testing' for a while. I believe that now, during the start of a development cycle and during debcamp/debconf we've a interesting opportunity to review pros and cons of our current approach. We believe that 'testing'

Re: Reasonable maximum package size ?

2007-06-11 Thread Steve McIntyre
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you write: -=-=-=-=-=- Le lundi 11 juin 2007 à 21:16 +0100, Wouter Verhelst a écrit : The point wasn't that you can't set up a professional RAID array using cheap desktop hard disks; you can, if you really want to, though I wouldn't recommend it. And yes, you're

Re: Using standardized SI prefixes

2007-06-11 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 10:15:25PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le lundi 11 juin 2007 à 15:25 -0400, Joey Hess a écrit : You seem to fancy the K-is-1024--k-is-1000 convention No, I hate that convention. K and k should only ever refer to 1024. /me waits for the day measuring jugs are

Re: arch-all-package shown with two versions on p.d.o

2007-06-11 Thread Frank Küster
Frank Lichtenheld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was a stale m68k Packages file lying around plus the fact that I still had m68k in the testing architecture list. Should be fixed now. Ah, many thanks! Regards, Frank -- Frank Küster Single Molecule Spectroscopy, Protein Folding @ Inst. f.

Re: Enter Postpone

2007-06-11 Thread Frank Küster
Frans Pop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To be honest, this is exactly an example where I would *NOT* want to see this implemented. A major downside of the mechanism supported by this package is that there is absolutely no check is any errors occur during the running of these postponed

Qt4.3.0 in experimental

2007-06-11 Thread Fathi Boudra
hi, Qt4.3.0 was uploaded in experimental. There's some API changes. Please, check your packages works with this new upstream release: Debian Java Maintainers [EMAIL PROTECTED] classpath Debian LyX Maintainers [EMAIL PROTECTED] lyx Jan Niehusmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] psi qca Utopia

Re: Using standardized SI prefixes

2007-06-11 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Eduard Bloch [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070611 22:27]: Can you tell me in which cases you would make a different decision if this was either 2134*1000 or 2134*1024 bytes? In either case, ~ 2 million bytes suits your requirement, or it doesn't. This sounds to me like solving a non-problem,

Re: Reasonable maximum package size ?

2007-06-11 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 10:11:25PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you write: -=-=-=-=-=- Le lundi 11 juin 2007 à 21:16 +0100, Wouter Verhelst a écrit : The point wasn't that you can't set up a professional RAID array using cheap desktop hard disks; you can, if

Re: ITP: pysycache-- Educational game to teach children to move the mouse

2007-06-11 Thread Marcus Better
José L. Redrejo wrote: The activities make children practice on clicking, double-clicking, drag and drop, moving and identify the mouse buttons. Since children probably learn this by age five or so with or without help, perhaps the author should focus on making a similar tool for adults

Re: Using standardized SI prefixes

2007-06-11 Thread Wesley J. Landaker
On Monday 11 June 2007 15:10:24 Hendrik Sattler wrote: Am Montag 11 Juni 2007 22:15 schrieb Josselin Mouette: Le lundi 11 juin 2007 à 15:25 -0400, Joey Hess a écrit : You seem to fancy the K-is-1024--k-is-1000 convention No, I hate that convention. K and k should only ever refer to

Re: Two proposals for a better Lenny (testing related).

2007-06-11 Thread Joey Hess
Gustavo Franco wrote: * testing metric is too simple, packages are allowed to enter testing only after a certain period of time has passed no matter if much people tested it before that and just when they don't have release-critical bugs filed against them. Of course we have a team of RMs

Bug#428467: ITP: balance -- Surprisingly successful load balancing solution and generic tcp proxy

2007-06-11 Thread Rafael D'Leon
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Rafael D'Leon [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Package name: balance Version : 3.35 Upstream Author : Thomas Obermair ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) * URL : http://www.inlab.de/balance.html * License : GPL Programming Lang: C Description

Re: Using standardized SI prefixes

2007-06-11 Thread Miles Bader
Bastian Venthur [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I agree with the sounds stupid part, although I don't belive this is a valid argument. What I don't believe is your 80 colums argument. Could you please name a few of the *many* programs which would have to drop information, precision, or significantly

Re: Using standardized SI prefixes

2007-06-11 Thread Alex Jones
Fine. Stick with Kilobytes, but strictly define it as 10^3 bytes. Just choose one over the other and be consistent. On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 01:53 +0900, Miles Bader wrote: shirish [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It isn't just ubuntu or debian but this needs to be done everywhere. No it

Re: Using standardized SI prefixes

2007-06-11 Thread Mark Reitblatt
On 6/11/07, Alex Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fine. Stick with Kilobytes, but strictly define it as 10^3 bytes. Just choose one over the other and be consistent. That's not consistent. Kilobyte has always meant 2^10 bytes. kilo in kilobyte is not an SI prefix. SI prefixes only apply to SI

Re: Using standardized SI prefixes

2007-06-11 Thread Alex Jones
On Mon, 2007-06-11 at 19:56 -0500, Mark Reitblatt wrote: On 6/11/07, Alex Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fine. Stick with Kilobytes, but strictly define it as 10^3 bytes. Just choose one over the other and be consistent. That's not consistent. Kilobyte has always meant 2^10 bytes. kilo in

Re: APT 0.7 for sid

2007-06-11 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 05:39:54PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: The frontends imho just need a clear way of showing which packages are going to be installed because of a Depends and which because of a Recommends, so it would be easier to de-select a recommended package. Otherwise there would

Re: SCSI drives for donation

2007-06-11 Thread Kevin Mark
On Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 02:46:08PM -0600, Warren Turkal wrote: I personally have 6 or 7 U320 73GB 10K RPM SCSI drives that I am not using for anything interesting. Can anyone tell me if these would be useful to Debian or recommend another free software group to donate them? As shipping may

Re: Two proposals for a better Lenny (testing related).

2007-06-11 Thread Kevin Mark
On Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 06:20:17PM -0300, Gustavo Franco wrote: I would like to ask you interested in our next release to stop and look at 'testing' for a while. I believe that now, during the start of a development cycle and during debcamp/debconf we've a interesting opportunity to review

Re: Using standardized SI prefixes

2007-06-11 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
Miles Bader wrote: Bastian Venthur [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On the other hand, we have the chance to avoid user confusion No one is actually confused. can you say, in all the thousands of users, not a single one is ever confused? Not a single one ever wonders if it means 1000 or 1024?

Re: SCSI drives for donation

2007-06-11 Thread Warren Turkal
On Monday 11 June 2007 21:52:09 Kevin Mark wrote: As shipping may be a consideration, in the cost-benefit analysis, it may be useful to say where in the world you are, in a general way, so that someone in the area, who could use them, could reply. I will ship anywhere in the US. Exporting them

Re: SCSI drives for donation

2007-06-11 Thread Ingo Juergensmann
On Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 02:46:08PM -0600, Warren Turkal wrote: I personally have 6 or 7 U320 73GB 10K RPM SCSI drives that I am not using for anything interesting. Can anyone tell me if these would be useful to Debian or recommend another free software group to donate them? The m68k port

Re: Using standardized SI prefixes

2007-06-11 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 02:32:35PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: On Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 10:15:25PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le lundi 11 juin 2007 à 15:25 -0400, Joey Hess a écrit : You seem to fancy the K-is-1024--k-is-1000 convention No, I hate that convention. K and k should

Re: SCSI drives for donation

2007-06-11 Thread Kevin Mark
On Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 11:19:00PM -0600, Warren Turkal wrote: On Monday 11 June 2007 21:52:09 Kevin Mark wrote: As shipping may be a consideration, in the cost-benefit analysis, it may be useful to say where in the world you are, in a general way, so that someone in the area, who could use

Accepted php-xajax 0.2.5-2 (source all)

2007-06-11 Thread David Gil
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2007 11:00:17 +0200 Source: php-xajax Binary: php-xajax Architecture: source all Version: 0.2.5-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: David Gil [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: David Gil [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Accepted dmake 1:4.8~cvs20070706-1 (source powerpc)

2007-06-11 Thread Rene Engelhard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2007 18:02:28 +0200 Source: dmake Binary: dmake Architecture: source powerpc Version: 1:4.8~cvs20070706-1 Distribution: experimental Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian OpenOffice Team [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Rene

Accepted libapache2-mod-fcgid 1:2.1-2 (source i386)

2007-06-11 Thread Tatsuki Sugiura
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 18:01:15 +0900 Source: libapache2-mod-fcgid Binary: libapache2-mod-fcgid Architecture: source i386 Version: 1:2.1-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: Taku YASUI [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Tatsuki

Accepted ckermit 211-8 (source i386)

2007-06-11 Thread Ian Beckwith
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2007 23:12:49 +0100 Source: ckermit Binary: ckermit Architecture: source i386 Version: 211-8 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Ian Beckwith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Ian Beckwith [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Accepted tex-common 1.8 (source all)

2007-06-11 Thread Frank Küster
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 10:14:14 +0200 Source: tex-common Binary: tex-common Architecture: source all Version: 1.8 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: Debian TeX maintainers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Frank Küster [EMAIL

Accepted gst-plugins-good0.10 0.10.5-7 (source i386 all)

2007-06-11 Thread Sebastian Dröge
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 22:58:34 +0200 Source: gst-plugins-good0.10 Binary: gstreamer0.10-plugins-good-doc gstreamer0.10-plugins-good gstreamer0.10-esd gstreamer0.10-plugins-good-dbg Architecture: source i386 all Version: 0.10.5-7

Accepted pcproxy 1.1.1-3 (source all)

2007-06-11 Thread Michael Ablassmeier
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 10:21:00 +0200 Source: pcproxy Binary: pcproxy Architecture: source all Version: 1.1.1-3 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian QA Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Michael Ablassmeier [EMAIL

Accepted linhdd 0.3-3 (source all)

2007-06-11 Thread Kartik Mistry
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 18:15:41 +0530 Source: linhdd Binary: linhdd Architecture: source all Version: 0.3-3 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Kartik Mistry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Kartik Mistry [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Accepted gnome-commander 1.2.4-1 (source i386)

2007-06-11 Thread Michael Vogt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 09:37:03 +0200 Source: gnome-commander Binary: gnome-commander Architecture: source i386 Version: 1.2.4-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Michael Vogt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Michael Vogt [EMAIL

Accepted mklibs 0.1.23 (source all i386)

2007-06-11 Thread Bastian Blank
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 07:56:06 + Source: mklibs Binary: mklibs mklibs-copy Architecture: source all i386 Version: 0.1.23 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian Install System Team [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Bastian

Accepted kde-style-qtcurve 0.51-1 (source i386)

2007-06-11 Thread Bastian Venthur
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 10:42:01 +0200 Source: kde-style-qtcurve Binary: qtcurve kde-style-qtcurve Architecture: source i386 Version: 0.51-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Bastian Venthur [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By:

Accepted gtk2-engines-qtcurve 0.51-1 (source i386)

2007-06-11 Thread Bastian Venthur
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 10:26:42 +0200 Source: gtk2-engines-qtcurve Binary: gtk2-engines-qtcurve Architecture: source i386 Version: 0.51-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Bastian Venthur [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Bastian

Accepted empathy 0.7-1 (source i386)

2007-06-11 Thread Sjoerd Simons
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 10:31:19 +0200 Source: empathy Binary: empathy Architecture: source i386 Version: 0.7-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Telepathy Maintaince Team [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Sjoerd Simons [EMAIL

Accepted kde-style-qtcurve 0.51-2 (source i386)

2007-06-11 Thread Bastian Venthur
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 11:21:00 +0200 Source: kde-style-qtcurve Binary: qtcurve kde-style-qtcurve Architecture: source i386 Version: 0.51-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Bastian Venthur [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By:

Accepted gtk2-engines-qtcurve 0.51-2 (source i386)

2007-06-11 Thread Bastian Venthur
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 11:20:11 +0200 Source: gtk2-engines-qtcurve Binary: gtk2-engines-qtcurve Architecture: source i386 Version: 0.51-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Bastian Venthur [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Bastian

Accepted swh-plugins 0.4.15-0.1 (source amd64)

2007-06-11 Thread Free Ekanayaka
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 23:42:38 +0200 Source: swh-plugins Binary: swh-plugins Architecture: source amd64 Version: 0.4.15-0.1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Anand Kumria [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Free Ekanayaka [EMAIL

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