Vincent Bernat [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
OoO Pendant le journal télévisé du mercredi 28 mai 2008, vers 20:55,
Cedric Delfosse [EMAIL PROTECTED] disait:
En effet, obm-storage et obm-ui dépendent tous les deux de obm-core, qui
finalement contient tout le code. Est-il envisageable de
On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 07:57:03PM -0500, Raphael Geissert wrote:
You can imagine harvesting alioth.d.o and extracting all debian/control
stored in whatever $VCS you find there, but you can't be sure if this is
the currently used $VCS, if there are other versions of the package
versioned
Hi all,
on my unstable machine, I checked ssh keys again today
and saw some funny outputs.
$ dpkg -l openssh-client
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
| Status=Not/Inst/Cfg-files/Unpacked/Failed-cfg/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
|/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems
Quoting Ben Finney ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lennart Sorensen) writes:
Given most people don't use the console ever
Where is your data for this assertion?
Probably too wide generalization by Lennart.
My own assertion was that people who use the console *on an enough
regular
The -a option attempts to scan all keys on the machine, you need to
run it as root if you want to check every key that the script knows
about.
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pabs
http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise
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On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 12:00:47AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 05:49:59PM +0200, Patrik Fimml wrote:
No, actually, /all/ keys I generated were allegedly weak -- this means,
after
executing ssh-keygen and dowkd.pl five times, I stuck to the key.
This rings all my
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 03:32:27PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
The -a option attempts to scan all keys on the machine, you need to
run it as root if you want to check every key that the script knows
about.
I would add that on remote NFS directories root could have not
privileges to read such
(Please cc me in any replies, I'm not subscribed.)
Neil Williams wrote:
??? That simply does not work. The problem is that running gtk-doc not
only requires tmpl/*.sgml files to exist but it *then modifies them*!
Here's how gtk-doc *used to* work:
* gtk-doc parses source code and writes out
Heya,
For some time now, I have been thinking about the problem of packages
which are removed from the archive at some point, without an (enforced)
transition to a new package name. Users of such packages keep them
around, usually never noticing the fact that no security (or other)
support is
On 29/05/08 at 13:24 +0200, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote:
Heya,
For some time now, I have been thinking about the problem of packages
which are removed from the archive at some point, without an (enforced)
transition to a new package name. Users of such packages keep them
around, usually
Le jeudi 29 mai 2008 à 13:24 +0200, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt a écrit :
Heya,
For some time now, I have been thinking about the problem of packages
which are removed from the archive at some point, without an (enforced)
transition to a new package name. Users of such packages keep them
around,
/me seems to remember a fairly recent discussion about this...
Right: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2008/03/msg00354.html
Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote:
Our current package management doesn't handle this case at all, so we
That is not entirely true: aptitude (and also dselect) does
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 01:24:59PM +0200, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote:
The probably easiest way would be to make apt whine on all packages
that are not available in any version at one of the locations
specified in sources.list. This trivial solution sucks, because
locally created packages [1]
Lucas Nussbaum [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On 29/05/08 at 13:24 +0200, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote:
For some time now, I have been thinking about the problem of packages
which are removed from the archive at some point, without an (enforced)
transition to a new package name. Users of such
Hello,
Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt schrieb:
For some time now, I have been thinking about the problem of packages
which are removed from the archive at some point, without an (enforced)
transition to a new package name. Users of such packages keep them
around, usually never noticing the fact that
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On 05/29/08 08:01, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote:
Lucas Nussbaum [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On 29/05/08 at 13:24 +0200, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote:
For some time now, I have been thinking about the problem of packages
which are removed from the
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 02:40:07PM +0200, Kai Wasserbäch wrote:
And for me that is enough, though a automatic notification by
aptitude, when a package is added to that category would be nice.
As of version 0.4.11, this does happen. From the NEWS file:
* Command-line updates in aptitude will
Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On 05/29/08 08:01, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote:
Lucas Nussbaum [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I usually run 'apt-show-versions | grep -v uptodate' to find them. The
remaining list is short enough to be analyzed manually.
I don't think normal users do that -
Hi all,
On Thu, 29 May 2008 12:40:37 +0200, Francesco P. Lovergine wrote:
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 03:32:27PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
The -a option attempts to scan all keys on the machine, you need to
run it as root if you want to check every key that the script knows
about.
I would
With current kernels, if you use /dev/input/mice,
the
port can be shared
by gpm and X at the same time, and all mice you
connect
(no matter what)
show up in that device.
Thanks for the update on mouse sharing in newer
kernels. I didn't realize that this support had been
added. That does
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On 05/29/08 09:35, Stephen Powell wrote:
[snip]
Given most people don't use the console ever,
installing a service that
is only for console use by default is simply wrong.
I'm not sure how one would know that most people don't
use the
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 07:35:20 -0700, Stephen Powell wrote:
I realize that PS/2 mice were not intended to be hot
swapped, but stuff happens. Sometimes the connector
is loose and falls out, sometimes a mischievous
co-worker unplugs it as a practical joke, sometimes
the mouse fails,
James Vega wrote:
As of version 0.4.11, this does happen. From the NEWS file:
* Command-line updates in aptitude will now list packages that are
newly obsolete. This doesn't work when a source is removed and
all its packages become obsolete, for technical reasons.
Hmm. New Debian
* Stefano Zacchiroli [Thu, 29 May 2008 14:18:35 +0200]:
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 01:24:59PM +0200, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote:
The probably easiest way would be to make apt whine on all packages
that are not available in any version at one of the locations
specified in sources.list. This
Ron Johnson wrote:
On 05/29/08 09:35, Stephen Powell wrote:
I'm not sure how one would know that most people don't
use the console. I, for one, use it a lot. But even
I work mainly in consoles too but I have no use at all for gpm as my
consoles are normally all in a graphical environment
On 29-May-08, 07:07 (CDT), Frans Pop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote:
Our current package management doesn't handle this case at all, so we
That is not entirely true: aptitude (and also dselect) does clearly display
obsolete and locally built packages in a separate
Here is a quick report on how I was able to speed up the boot in Lenny
by using the tools available already. I was able to reduce the boot
time as reported by bootchart from 48 to 30 seconds (37.5%). I post
it here to make more Debian users aware of the possibilities.
This test was done on a
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On 05/29/08 11:25, Frans Pop wrote:
Ron Johnson wrote:
On 05/29/08 09:35, Stephen Powell wrote:
I'm not sure how one would know that most people don't
use the console. I, for one, use it a lot. But even
I work mainly in consoles too but I
Steve Greenland wrote:
Aptitude shows a group of obsolete and locally created packages.
However, it doesn't distinguish between them, as far as I can tell,
which is what Marc (and I) would like.
There really is no current way to do this. Case in point: if you use
wget and dpkg -i to install
On Thu, 29 May 2008, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
I am not quite sure what to do to reduce it even further. Anyone got
any ideas?
Yes, but for the kernel. You want to reduce the time to /sbin/init
being run by removing anything you don't want or need, and you want to
have the udev coldplug run
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 08:16:28AM +1000, Ben Finney wrote:
Where is your data for this assertion?
The number of people that have no idea how to get to the console from X.
Personally I hate dealing with machines that don't have gpm installed,
but I don't want to bloat the base install either.
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 07:35:20AM -0700, Stephen Powell wrote:
Thanks for the update on mouse sharing in newer
kernels. I didn't realize that this support had been
added. That does take away part of my supporting
argument for configuring X to use gpm.
It was a very nice improvement.
I
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martin f krafft wrote:
For reasons known to the board, Daniel Baumann stepped down from his
position as treasurer
Just for the records and to avoid speculations: The reason is simply
lack of time.
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On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 12:22:15PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
Which I did many years ago. But it would still make it easier for
us dual-use people, and not affect only-gooey users, if gpm were the
default.
I would like ssh installed by default before gpm, but I don't think we
need to go back
Simon McVittie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Here's how gtk-doc *used to* work:
* gtk-doc parses source code and writes out skeletal tmpl/*.sgml
* svn ci -m 'initial version of gtkdoc templates' tmpl
* upstream doc author inserts content into tmpl/*.sgml
* svn ci -m 'wrote some docs' tmpl
*
CCing debian-dpkg for obvious reasons.
On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 14:18 +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 01:24:59PM +0200, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote:
The probably easiest way would be to make apt whine on all packages
that are not available in any version at one of the
Fellow earthicans,
I'm maintaining the libweather-com-perl package. Apparently
(http://rt.cpan.org/Public/Bug/Display.html?id=35681) the package stopped
working after May 6th 2008. I patched the package so it works again and
uploaded it into unstable. Just wondering what to do with Etch
On Thu May 29 2008 12:37:28 Franklin PIAT wrote:
Using `dpkg -i` really is insane as far as security is concerned :
The above statement is false.
Many people do extra levels of testing before
rolling out updates with dpkg -i. With apt-get
you never know when the package lists will be updated.
Hey there,
Some time ago I made disruptive changes to dhelp_parse, part of dhelp. I
assumed that the only one calling it was doc-base (in particular,
install-docs), so I synced the changes with some doc-base release and just
made them.
Now some bug (#482807) was assigned to dhelp, and
Hi,
Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote:
For some time now, I have been thinking about the problem of packages
which are removed from the archive at some point, without an (enforced)
transition to a new package name. Users of such packages keep them
around, usually never noticing the fact that no
Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote:
Our current package management doesn't handle this case at all, so we
might need to fix this - we just need to decide how. The probably
easiest way would be to make apt whine on all packages that are not
available in any version at one of the locations specified
Hello,
On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 14:40 +0200, Kai Wasserbäch wrote:
Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt schrieb:
For some time now, I have been thinking about the problem of packages
which are removed from the archive at some point, without an (enforced)
transition to a new package name. Users of such
[Stephen Powell]
I realize that PS/2 mice were not intended to be hot swapped, but
stuff happens.
The kernel 'psmouse' module, and the 'serio' layer that actually talks
to the i8042, actually have much more thorough and robust support for
PS/2 hotplugging than gpm ever did. The kernel even
[Christoph Haas]
the package stopped working after May 6th 2008. I patched the package
so it works again and uploaded it into unstable.
This is why we have volatile - see http://www.debian.org/volatile/.
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In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote:
One could create dummy transition packages that `provides` the removed
package :
or conflict with them in a suported-lenny package.
But I think obsolete packages can be mail-warned in security reports just
like vrms or something. PAckages needing patches
Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 07:57:03PM -0500, Raphael Geissert wrote:
You can imagine harvesting alioth.d.o and extracting all debian/control
stored in whatever $VCS you find there, but you can't be sure if this
is the currently used $VCS, if there are other versions
Yes, this could be solved by having APT (probably) store the origin of the
package when installing. Then, for example, if an APT front-end realizes
while updating package index files that a package coming from Debian is not
available anymore from Debian sources, the user could be prompted.
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Mike Bird [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Many people do extra levels of testing before
rolling out updates with dpkg -i. With apt-get
you never know when the package lists will be updated.
Uh... the package lists are updated when you run apt-get update. I must
be missing something.
--
Russ
Hi,
On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 21:37:28 +0200, Franklin PIAT wrote:
I suggest to modify dpkg so it refuse to install package, unless the
option --insecure is specified. Such option's manpage description
would be :
That'd be mostly just annoying for no actual benefit. It would break
existing
On Thu May 29 2008 16:58:41 Russ Allbery wrote:
Mike Bird [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Many people do extra levels of testing before
rolling out updates with dpkg -i. With apt-get
you never know when the package lists will be updated.
Uh... the package lists are updated when you run apt-get
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 3:44 AM, Christoph Haas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm maintaining the libweather-com-perl package. Apparently
(http://rt.cpan.org/Public/Bug/Display.html?id=35681) the package stopped
working after May 6th 2008. I patched the package so it works again and
uploaded it
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