Manoj Srivastava (2008-12-17 17:02 -0600) wrote:
If there is sufficient support, we could also scrap the
current vote, change our ballot, add options to it, or something, and
restart the vote, but that would need a strong grass roots support (I
do not think the secretary has the
* Emilio Pozuelo Monfort:
Description : automatic proxy configuration management library
libproxy is a lightweight library which makes it easy to develop
applications proxy-aware with a simple and stable API.
WPAD is a broken protocol with security issues inherent to the DNS
Hi
Dne Thu, 18 Dec 2008 11:45:47 +1100
Brian May br...@microcomaustralia.com.au napsal(a):
Margarita Manterola wrote:
If we do all this, we would be voting:
A) If we trust or not the release team on making the right choices of
which bugs to ignore and which not (regardless of this being
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 09:30:21AM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote:
* Emilio Pozuelo Monfort:
Description : automatic proxy configuration management library
libproxy is a lightweight library which makes it easy to develop
applications proxy-aware with a simple and stable API.
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Severity: wishlist
Owner: Damyan Ivanov d...@debian.org
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Version : 0.3003
Upstream Author : Daisuke Maki dm...@cpan.org,
Tatsuhiko Miyagawa miyag...@bulknews.net
* URL :
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Damyan Ivanov d...@debian.org
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Version : 1.06
Upstream Author : Alex Bowley kilin...@cpan.org
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Florian Weimer f...@deneb.enyo.de writes:
* Emilio Pozuelo Monfort:
Description : automatic proxy configuration management library
libproxy is a lightweight library which makes it easy to develop
applications proxy-aware with a simple and stable API.
WPAD is a broken protocol with
On Dec 18, 2008, at 8:51 AM, Teemu Likonen wrote:
Manoj Srivastava (2008-12-17 17:02 -0600) wrote:
If there is sufficient support, we could also scrap the
current vote, change our ballot, add options to it, or something, and
restart the vote, but that would need a strong grass roots
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 04:45:02PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote:
It seems that the grass-roots support for doing something quite different to
the current vote includes me, Brian, and quite a few bloggers on Planet
Debian.
I don't like the current vote either and wouldn't mind if it was
http://discuss.itwire.com/viewtopic.php?f=29t=7991
From the above news article:
# Debian Project Leader Steve McIntyre told iTWire that after Mouette's abuse
# of the ability to post to the d-d-a mailing list, I asked our mailing list
# administrators to remove that privilege for in future.
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 12:35 PM, Bjørn Mork bm...@dod.no wrote:
Florian Weimer f...@deneb.enyo.de writes:
I would very much like this library to become the *only* WPAD
implementation anywhere. Hopefully eventually with some ability to
define local policies, where the default Debian policy
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 11:04:24PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote:
As the Debian culture is opposed to censorship, I believe that such posts do
not belong on Planet Debian - which is for many people the public face of
Debian.
To be clear, this means that as the Debian culture is opposed to
On Dec 16, 2008, at 9:52 PM, Noah Slater wrote:
To be honest, I'd prefer if Bastian applied his skills
to helping a project I'm not a member of.
I am not going to comment on his behaviour, your comments may very
well be
justified. But I do think it would do the project some good if we
Le jeudi 18 décembre 2008 à 23:04 +1100, Russell Coker a écrit :
The above article concerns the damage that Josselin's actions cause to the
Debian project. D-d-a is not that different from other parts of Debian, bad
behaviour in other forums also hurts the project.
What do you want to say,
Hello,
I've started a new thread because follow 2 very long thread starts
being a little tedious.
This voice is coming out more and more strong lately: why don't we
simply delete the current gr_lenny and start another ballot, only
focusing on the *real* lenny release? All other options must go
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 01:22:40PM +0100, Sandro Tosi wrote:
So, how many are in favor of redo *completely* the vote (in more
ballot, the first being the one for lenny ONLY)? how many should we be
to let it happen? how many should be in contrary to stop this re-vote?
how can we express the
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 11:04:24PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote:
As the Debian culture is opposed to censorship, I believe that such posts do
not belong on Planet Debian
This sounds like an oxymoron to me.
FWIW, I'm way more annoyed by _frequent_ OT blog posts totally
unrelated to Debian on
Le Thursday 18 December 2008 13:04:24 Russell Coker, vous avez écrit :
The above article concerns the damage that Josselin's actions cause to the
Debian project. D-d-a is not that different from other parts of Debian,
bad behaviour in other forums also hurts the project.
I have that feeling
* Russell Coker:
The above article concerns the damage that Josselin's actions cause to the
Debian project.
I don't think it's fair to hold Josselin responsible for what that
particular author writes, no matter what you think of his actions.
--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to
Stefano Zacchiroli z...@debian.org wrote:
Hi,
them. Your implicit assumption that Planet Debian conveys an
official message to our community is totally unsound IMO. We have
d-d-a for our official message (yes, Joss abused that, and has been
Official announcements to the outside world
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 02:34:09PM +0100, Julien BLACHE wrote:
them. Your implicit assumption that Planet Debian conveys an
official message to our community is totally unsound IMO. We have
d-d-a for our official message (yes, Joss abused that, and has been
Official announcements to the
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 01:22:40PM +0100, Sandro Tosi wrote:
So, how many are in favor of redo *completely* the vote (in more
ballot, the first being the one for lenny ONLY)? how many should we be
to let it happen? how many should be in contrary to stop this re-vote?
how can we express
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 02:59:52PM +0100, Michael Tautschnig wrote:
Do we have any well-defined procedure to stop/cancel a GR (in progress)? If
not,
is it the DPL to decide, based on what is voiced on this list? Shouldn't
people
just say Further discussion in their votes to express such
Stefano Zacchiroli z...@debian.org wrote:
Hi,
Official announcements to the outside world actually appear in
debian-announce; debian-devel-announce is a developer list.
You are a bit picky, you know? :-)
I don't think so; setting the record straight isn't being picky :)
Yes: I know the
On 12/18/08 06:26, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le jeudi 18 décembre 2008 à 23:04 +1100, Russell Coker a écrit :
The above article concerns the damage that Josselin's actions cause to the
Debian project. D-d-a is not that different from other parts of Debian, bad
behaviour in other forums also
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 03:15:38PM +0100, Julien BLACHE wrote:
Stefano Zacchiroli z...@debian.org wrote:
Hi,
Official announcements to the outside world actually appear in
debian-announce; debian-devel-announce is a developer list.
You are a bit picky, you know? :-)
I don't think
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 12:28:12PM +0100, Jan Niehusmann wrote:
I don't like the current vote either and wouldn't mind if it was
canceled.
My suggestion is to do a very simple vote first, with only two choices:
a) continue with the release process and don't wait for further GRs
Le Thursday 18 December 2008 15:45:05 Michael Banck, vous avez écrit :
I'd argue about that official thing that people have been using to
qualify d-d-a. It's an announce list for developers, by
developers.
Wrong. While in /theory/ it might be for developers, in /practise/,
d-d-a is
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Hi folks,
I am hereby resigning as secretary, effective immediately. I was
planning on leaving the office soon, anyway, but I had a rewrite of
Devotee underway, which would have made the software more useful for
different people (different checks --LDAP.gpg. and others), and allowed
- Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org wrote:
I am hereby resigning as secretary, effective immediately. I was
planning on leaving the office soon, anyway, but I had a rewrite of
Devotee underway, which would have made the software more useful for
different people (different
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On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 03:53:09PM +0100, Romain Beauxis wrote:
Le Thursday 18 December 2008 15:45:05 Michael Banck, vous avez écrit :
I'd argue about that official thing that people have been using to
qualify d-d-a. It's an announce list for developers, by
developers.
Wrong. While
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Julien BLACHE wrote:
I'd argue about that official thing that people have been using to
qualify d-d-a. It's an announce list for developers, by
developers. I'm not sure what's official in there. I'd tend to say
anything official is project
Hi!
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Programming Lang: Java
Description : OpenSourcePACS is a free, open
On 2008-12-18, Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org wrote:
As to the people who emailed me that they are putting together a
petition for the DAM to have me removed from the project, I hear you
too.
I don't like this.
I am going to spend the next few days evaluating how important
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008, Russell Coker wrote:
He has stated that he intends to keep offending people. His aim seems
to be the censorship of people who disagree with him by continually
offending them until they stop disagreeing.
Come on, you're defacing reality and Josselin's statements...
What
Manoj Srivastava wrote:
I was just thinking of postposing the end-of-vote cron job, so
no re-voting would be needed.
If there is sufficient support, we could also scrap the current
vote, change our ballot, add options to it, or something, and restart
the vote, but that
On Thu Dec 18 08:44, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
I am hereby resigning as secretary, effective immediately
Thank you for your hard work in this post. I'm sorry to see that a few
zealots can cause so many hard working folks to consider leaving the
project. Personally, if we are to do
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 04:45:07PM +0100, Mohammed Adnène Trojette wrote:
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008, Russell Coker wrote:
He has stated that he intends to keep offending people. His aim seems
to be the censorship of people who disagree with him by continually
offending them until they stop
Michael Banck mba...@debian.org wrote:
Like it or not, messages to d-d-a are frequently forwarded verbatim to
LWN and other major IT-centered news sources. This happen much less
Pretty much everything and anything ends up there, so that's hardly a
criterion for relevance or whatever.
JB.
--
Hi
Dne Thu, 18 Dec 2008 08:44:11 -0600
Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org napsal(a):
I am hereby resigning as secretary, effective immediately.
Thanks for your hard work!
As to the people who emailed me that they are putting together a
petition for the DAM to have me
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 08:44:11AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
Hi folks,
I am hereby resigning as secretary, effective immediately. I was
planning on leaving the office soon, anyway, but I had a rewrite of
Devotee underway, which would have made the software more useful for
Manoj,
This is very unfortunate for Debian. You diligently adhered
to the Constitution in the face of rabid criticism from a
few loudmouths who were too lazy to resolve their concerns
about poorly worded proposals at the appropriate time.
Sadly, by this action you have only encouraged the
Christian Perrier dijo [Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 07:40:12AM +0100]:
It could be by promoting experimental a different way we are doing it
right now...or by adding an intermediate stage between unstable and
experimental. For that latter case, I somewhat fear the (human) resource
problem we would
Sandro Tosi dijo [Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 01:22:40PM +0100]:
Hello,
I've started a new thread because follow 2 very long thread starts
being a little tedious.
This voice is coming out more and more strong lately: why don't we
simply delete the current gr_lenny and start another ballot, only
also sprach Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org [2008.12.18.1544 +0100]:
As to the people who emailed me that they are putting together a
petition for the DAM to have me removed from the project, I hear you
too. I am going to spend the next few days evaluating how important the
Brian May dijo [Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 11:45:47AM +1100]:
(...)
A) If we trust or not the release team on making the right choices of
which bugs to ignore and which not (regardless of this being firmware
issues or what have you). This is from now on, not just for Lenny.
B) If we want to
Le Thursday 18 December 2008 16:37:38 Johannes Wiedersich, vous avez écrit :
Julien BLACHE wrote:
I'd argue about that official thing that people have been using to
qualify d-d-a. It's an announce list for developers, by
developers. I'm not sure what's official in there. I'd tend to say
Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org writes:
As to the people who emailed me that they are putting together a
petition for the DAM to have me removed from the project,
WHAT?? Could these people step up please and tell us WHY you consider
expelling Manoj from Debian would be a good
On 11603 March 1977, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
I am hereby resigning as secretary, effective immediately.
:( Sorry to hear that. Whoever is your follower *will* have a hard
time.
As to the people who emailed me that they are putting together a
petition for the DAM to have me
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Romain Beauxis wrote:
Le Thursday 18 December 2008 16:37:38 Johannes Wiedersich, vous avez écrit :
The point is it was an 'announcement' and it
was perceived as inappropriate (not only OT) by many.
I fully disagree.
Le jeudi 18 décembre 2008 à 17:49 +0100, Romain Beauxis a écrit :
I eat kittens at breakfast
How do you cook them?
I like European cats a lot, but I heard the Siamese meat is more tender.
Do you have some advice?
--
.''`.
: :' : We are debian.org. Lower your prices, surrender your code.
Hi Gunnar,
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 17:38, Gunnar Wolf gw...@gwolf.org wrote:
Sandro Tosi dijo [Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 01:22:40PM +0100]:
Hello,
I've started a new thread because follow 2 very long thread starts
being a little tedious.
This voice is coming out more and more strong lately: why
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 12:51:34PM +0100, Bastien ROUCARIES wrote:
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 12:35 PM, Bjørn Mork bm...@dod.no wrote:
Florian Weimer f...@deneb.enyo.de writes:
I would very much like this library to become the *only* WPAD
implementation anywhere. Hopefully eventually with
Hi,
kindergarten and western civilisation indeed would be a good idea.
To those thinking about expelling Joss, I'm in favor of this now. Trolling on
purpose (repeatetly) for the sake of it is nothing I want to see in Debian
nor do I want to see it as accepted behaviour.
regards,
Le Thursday 18 December 2008 18:21:48 Holger Levsen, vous avez écrit :
To those thinking about expelling Joss, I'm in favor of this now. Trolling
on purpose (repeatetly) for the sake of it is nothing I want to see in
Debian nor do I want to see it as accepted behaviour.
You can't be serious.
Holger Levsen hol...@layer-acht.org (18/12/2008):
To those thinking about expelling Joss, I'm in favor of this now.
OOH, that's the season, maybe?
Trolling on purpose (repeatetly) for the sake of it is nothing I want
to see in Debian nor do I want to see it as accepted behaviour.
Just for
Since I am not (yet) a DD and the remaining RC bugs for lenny are
largely beyond me - I have been keeping an eye on the list - I'm looking
for ways to contribute that aren't packaging.
It occurs to me that the NEW queue is pretty static for large periods of
time (and in the middle of a freeze,
Le Thursday 18 December 2008 18:08:00 Josselin Mouette, vous avez écrit :
Le jeudi 18 décembre 2008 à 17:49 +0100, Romain Beauxis a écrit :
I eat kittens at breakfast
How do you cook them?
I like European cats a lot, but I heard the Siamese meat is more tender.
Do you have some advice?
On 18/12/08 at 17:45 +, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote:
Since I am not (yet) a DD and the remaining RC bugs for lenny are
largely beyond me - I have been keeping an eye on the list - I'm looking
for ways to contribute that aren't packaging.
It occurs to me that the NEW queue is pretty static
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 12:32 PM, Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote:
Manners, Josselin, and discretion. There are some places where it's just
not appropriate to blurt out whatever you're thinking.
+10 from here.
Of course, Josselin thinks and jokes differently from others, as it's
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 08:44:11AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
I am hereby resigning as secretary, effective immediately.
Thank you for all the good work you've done in that position over the years.
As to the people who emailed me that they are putting together a
petition
Manoj Srivastava wrote:
I am hereby resigning as secretary, effective immediately.
Thank you very much for your work in such a difficult role for so long.
Debian is certainly a better project for your efforts.
Mistakes happen. Mistakes can be recovered from. What can not,
Manoj,
As one of the few people around who has been part of the Debian project
as long as you have, please accept my sincere appreciation for your long
history of meaningful contributions... and in particular your lengthy
and honorable service as our secretary!
You have earned and retain my
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 6:13 PM, Michael Banck mba...@debian.org wrote:
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 12:51:34PM +0100, Bastien ROUCARIES wrote:
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 12:35 PM, Bjørn Mork bm...@dod.no wrote:
Florian Weimer f...@deneb.enyo.de writes:
I would very much like this library to become
Le Thursday 18 December 2008 19:12:29 Martin Langhoff, vous avez écrit :
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 12:32 PM, Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote:
Manners, Josselin, and discretion. There are some places where it's just
not appropriate to blurt out whatever you're thinking.
+10 from here.
* Sandro Tosi mo...@debian.org [081218 18:11]:
But that will delay even further Lenny release;
Hey! You suggested to redo something. Thus you are suggesting to delay.
I think that a simple
vote like the one dato proposed is what is needed to let us move
forward a release.
Please note that
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 08:28:21PM +0100, Romain Beauxis wrote:
And if the jokes don't make you laugh, just ignore them.
Which of course would be easier to do if the jokes were not told in the
first place. There's a time and place for everything, it's a shame
that a few seem to think that this
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 20:33, Bernhard R. Link brl...@debian.org wrote:
* Sandro Tosi mo...@debian.org [081218 18:11]:
But that will delay even further Lenny release;
Hey! You suggested to redo something. Thus you are suggesting to delay.
But maybe with the aim of a better target?
I think
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 11:44:34AM -0700, Bdale Garbee wrote:
As one of the few people around who has been part of the Debian project
as long as you have, please accept my sincere appreciation for your long
history of meaningful contributions... and in particular your lengthy
and honorable
On Friday 19 December 2008 06:28, Romain Beauxis to...@rastageeks.org wrote:
The initial proposition of this thread was this idea of code of conduct..
I don't like it either. If you believe someone is being too rude, why
don't you simply tell it to him, in public or in private ?
* Sandro Tosi mo...@debian.org [081218 20:51]:
ehm? what? how is it un-democratic to have different votes for
different things, targetted exactly to decide where something is
allowed or not?
Then do different votes for different things. And put together what
belongs together.
But just having
Barry deFreese wrote:
Just in case anyone cares/is interested, here is some work I have been
doing on packages using Gtk1.2, Imlib, gnome-libs, or any combination
thereof.
Thanks.
Could you fold this into a page on wiki.debian.org, so that people
can add their specific solution attempts or
(I answer since there is a question adressed..)
Le Thursday 18 December 2008 22:01:17 Russell Coker, vous avez écrit :
On Friday 19 December 2008 06:28, Romain Beauxis to...@rastageeks.org
wrote:
The initial proposition of this thread was this idea of code of conduct..
I don't like it
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 06:27:15PM +, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote:
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 08:44:11AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
I am hereby resigning as secretary, effective immediately.
Thank you for all the good work you've done in that position over the years.
#include hallo.h
* Russell Coker [Thu, Dec 18 2008, 11:04:24PM]:
http://discuss.itwire.com/viewtopic.php?f=29t=7991
From the above news article:
# Debian Project Leader Steve McIntyre told iTWire that after Mouette's abuse
I would like to know what exactly Steve told them. The major tone WRT
Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org writes:
In the years I have spent in this role since Darren left us,
I have tried to conduct the votes as I saw the rquirements of the
constitution, and the limitations of the voting software. But this
not a view shared by very many people.
On Friday 19 December 2008 01:44, Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org
wrote:
I am hereby resigning as secretary, effective immediately. I was
I'm sad to hear this. I think that you have done a great job as secretary.
I concede that I have made mistakes with the current set
On Friday 19 December 2008 08:53, Romain Beauxis to...@rastageeks.org wrote:
http://np237.livejournal.com/20741.html
That method was attempted, the response from Josselin was I will go on
shocking these people, along with several references to sodomy with a
broomstick and a link to a
On 2008-12-18, Russell Coker russ...@coker.com.au wrote:
culture. It is even sometimes used without the intent to make an accusation
of homosexuality.
Joss was intending to make an insinuation of homosexuality in order to
offend.
I think you are seeing ghosts or just being prejudistic
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 10:28:09PM +, Russell Coker wrote:
On Friday 19 December 2008 08:53, Romain Beauxis to...@rastageeks.org wrote:
Being french too, I can assure you that pretending that someone has a
broomstick in its ass is a very common expression for someone who it too
much
Le vendredi 19 décembre 2008 à 09:28 +1100, Russell Coker a écrit :
The expression broomstick in their arse is also common in Australian
culture. It is even sometimes used without the intent to make an accusation
of homosexuality.
Homosexuality can be an *accusation* ‽
The creation of a
Le Thursday 18 December 2008 23:46:25 Josselin Mouette, vous avez écrit :
So, if I follow you:
leather - homosexuality
homosexuality - offense
And by saying both of these, you dare say that I am offensive ‽
Well, you could also argue that in intend to offend means present
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008, Russell Coker wrote:
The expression broomstick in their arse is also common in Australian
culture. It is even sometimes used without the intent to make an accusation
of homosexuality.
However Josselin made it quite clear that he was not using the term as a
#include hallo.h
* Kalle Kivimaa [Thu, Dec 18 2008, 05:11:39PM]:
Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org writes:
As to the people who emailed me that they are putting together a
petition for the DAM to have me removed from the project,
WHAT?? Could these people step up please and
Pierre Habouzit wrote:
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 10:28:09PM +, Russell Coker wrote:
The creation of a fake picture of Manoj wearing leather makes it clear that
Joss was intending to make an insinuation of homosexuality in order to
offend.
I'm really speechless... I mean, even from you
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On Do, 18 Dez 2008, Russell Coker wrote:
The above article concerns the damage that Josselin's actions cause to the
Debian project. D-d-a is not that different from other parts of Debian, bad
behaviour in other forums also hurts the project.
Oh bummer. Normally I never write something in
On Friday 19 December 2008 10:01, Romain Beauxis to...@rastageeks.org wrote:
Well, you could also argue that in intend to offend means present things
as if it was offensent, much like when calling someone a geek is meant as
an insult...
Exactly.
Also I had a brief off-list discussion with
Le Friday 19 December 2008 01:04:05 Johannes Wiedersich, vous avez écrit :
Joss, it is disappointing that after all that time since your faux pas
[1], you still seem to fail to understand that what might be acceptable
within one culture (I don't speak or understand 'French') will not
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On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 06:07:43PM +0100, Sandro Tosi wrote:
Rank Further discussion first. That's our best way to say I think
this vote is wrong.
But that will delay even further Lenny release; I think that a simple
vote like the one dato proposed is what is needed to let us move
forward a
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 5:40 AM, Moritz Muehlenhoff j...@inutil.org wrote:
Actually, it would be nice if we had a decicated cleanups/transitions
overview page on wiki.debian.org as a central starting point for
people who want to help out.
This is the old one:
On Dec 18, Russell Coker russ...@coker.com.au wrote:
He has stated
that he intends to keep offending people. His aim seems to be the censorship
of people who disagree with him by continually offending them until they stop
disagreeing.
I am quite sure that this is not a new meaning of
On Dec 18, Stefano Zacchiroli z...@debian.org wrote:
FWIW, I'm way more annoyed by _frequent_ OT blog posts totally
unrelated to Debian on Planet Debian (even though I enjoy _sporadic_
OTs) than by Joss posts.
Me too! I really do not feel the need to learn how much the personal
life of other
On Dec 18, Russell Coker russ...@coker.com.au wrote:
The Ubuntu community includes many former and current members of the Debian
community. It seems that they don't have a problem with the code of conduct.
Why do you think that a code of conduct which works well for Ubuntu would
fail for
On Dec 18, Holger Levsen hol...@layer-acht.org wrote:
To those thinking about expelling Joss, I'm in favor of this now. Trolling on
purpose (repeatetly) for the sake of it is nothing I want to see in Debian
nor do I want to see it as accepted behaviour.
Come on... We had a DPL who hosted
On Dec 18, Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org wrote:
I am hereby resigning as secretary, effective immediately. I was
Good riddance! It's too bad that you did not leave after misleading
the other developers about editorial changes.
While I must say that the mistake for this
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