Hello,
Cite from the homepage:
Nix is a purely functional package manager. It allows multiple
versions of a package to be installed side-by-side, ensures that
dependency specifications are complete, supports atomic
upgrades and rollbacks, allows non-root users to install software,
and has
[...]
- New features:
[...]
support for realtime mount options
I think this^ was meant to be relatime, and it is a single mount option.
[...]
Thanks for the great work,
Michael
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Am Dienstag, den 23.12.2008, 17:37 +0100 schrieb Michelle Konzack:
Am 2008-12-22 14:37:58, schrieb Paul Wise:
I note that Ubuntu has more than an order of magnitude more popcon
submitters:
Because it is installed and activated by default...
(At least on the Machine I have installed for a
Artyom Shalkhakov wrote:
Hello,
Hello,
Nix is a purely functional package manager. It allows multiple
versions of a package to be installed side-by-side, ensures that
dependency specifications are complete, supports atomic
upgrades and rollbacks, allows non-root users to install software,
Hi Eugene,
2008/12/24 Eugene V. Lyubimkin jackyf.de...@gmail.com:
The claims that I think are valuable are:
- *all* dependencies of a package are automatically found by Nix,
no exceptions,
Hmm... Nix probably use libastral, doesn't it? Even for C/C++ programs there
is no way to 100%
On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 05:17:28PM +0600, Artyom Shalkhakov wrote:
It looks like you completely misunderstood the idea, so lurk before
you post. Thanks.
You can't post a two-sentence summary of a new package manager to
debian-devel, say discuss and then shoot down replies by claiming the
person
Le mercredi 24 décembre 2008 à 17:17 +0600, Artyom Shalkhakov a écrit :
It has nothing to do with our apt infrastructure, it doesn't
understand it and invented its own wheel. I think no way for Nix in Debian.
We
have excellent dpkg, we have not-so-excellent, but rather good apt, and
Am Mittwoch, 24. Dezember 2008 schrieb Michael Tautschnig:
Good morning
[...]
- New features:
[...]
support for realtime mount options
I think this^ was meant to be relatime, and it is a single mount
option.
Yes. Sorry it's my fault. I thought it was a typo and changed it in
Artyom Shalkhakov wrote:
Hmm... Nix probably use libastral, doesn't it? Even for C/C++ programs there
is no way to 100% automatically determine entire list of runtime
libraries/tools needed for some particular program (consider runtime library
opening and all non-library dependencies).
This
On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 8:42 PM, Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org wrote:
If you want to do something useful, I suggest that you grab the
interesting ideas from nix (like binary deltas) and propose patches for
APT to implement them.
Debian already has binary deltas (debdelta), but it isn't
Hello.
While I was writing, Josselin Mouette said almost all I wanted to say,
but I'll add a little :)
2008/12/24 Artyom Shalkhakov artyom.shalkha...@gmail.com:
The claims that I think are valuable are:
- *all* dependencies of a package are automatically found by Nix,
no exceptions,
Hmm...
Hi,
On Sat, 15.11.2008 at 08:49:12 +0100, Vincent Bernat ber...@debian.org wrote:
On some systems like OpenBSD, all those users are starting with
underscore to avoid collision with real users. On Debian, I have never
seen this, even for packages that comes from OpenBSD (like
Sorry, I forgot to forward this to debian-devel.
-- Forwarded message --
From: Artyom Shalkhakov artyom.shalkha...@gmail.com
Date: 2008/12/24
Subject: Re: Adoption of Nix?
To: Eugene V. Lyubimkin jackyf.de...@gmail.com
2008/12/24 Eugene V. Lyubimkin jackyf.de...@gmail.com:
Sorry, I forgot about the debian-devel for the second time. :(
-- Forwarded message --
From: Artyom Shalkhakov artyom.shalkha...@gmail.com
Date: 2008/12/24
Subject: Re: Adoption of Nix?
To: Всеволод Величко torkvem...@nigma.ru
Hi Vsevolod,
2008/12/24 Всеволод Величко
Artyom Shalkhakov wrote:
2008/12/24 Eugene V. Lyubimkin jackyf.de...@gmail.com:
Which means that find all dependencies with no exceptions is not true.
This is how Nix developers put it:
Runtime dependencies are found by scanning binaries for the hash parts
of Nix store paths (such as
Quoth Artyom Shalkhakov artyom.shalkha...@gmail.com, on 2008-12-24 17:17:28
+0600:
It looks like you completely misunderstood the idea, so lurk before
you post. Thanks.
Debian List Search, list devel, author match artyom shalkhakov:
two matches, all in this thread, not including your most
Hi.
2008/12/24 Artyom Shalkhakov artyom.shalkha...@gmail.com:
Well, as I see, it uses it's own package format, which is
wrapper-description around everything - source, deb or rpm. Does it
really have any sense?
Every problem in computer science can be solved by adding
a layer of
Yes, you are probably right: I don't understand how Nix may be useful for
Debian (and for GNU/Linux also).
That's too bad for you. Shallow thinking doesn't get you anywhere.
As promoter/recommender surely the onus is upon you to demonstrate:
1. Nix is good.
2. Nix is better than
On Wednesday 24 December 2008 18:55:20 Steve Kemp wrote:
Yes, you are probably right: I don't understand how Nix may be useful
for Debian (and for GNU/Linux also).
That's too bad for you. Shallow thinking doesn't get you anywhere.
As promoter/recommender surely the onus is upon you
On 12/24/08 10:55, Drake Wilson wrote:
Quoth Artyom Shalkhakov artyom.shalkha...@gmail.com, on 2008-12-24 17:17:28
+0600:
It looks like you completely misunderstood the idea, so lurk before
you post. Thanks.
Debian List Search, list devel, author match artyom shalkhakov:
two matches, all in
Hi there. As I'm sure everyone knows, I'm not exactly unbiased here
since I've done a lot of work on the apt system (although nix looks more
like a replacement for dpkg).
This is the same package manager that was posted on lambda-the-ultimate
a while back, right? Since you didn't provide a
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Julian Andres Klode j...@debian.org
* Package name: hardlink
Version : 0.1
Upstream Author : Julian Andres Klode j...@jak-linux.org
* URL : http://git.debian.org/?p=users/jak/hardlink.git;a=summary
* License : MIT
*
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Johan Henriksson maho...@areta.org
* Package name: libjinput-java
Version : 0.0.20081224
Upstream Author : Jeff Kesselman jef...@dev.java.net et al
* URL : https://jinput.dev.java.net/
* License : BSD3
Programming
In article 200812241947.08458.danc...@spnet.net you wrote:
Hm, Nix seems to be born in academia, and based on by someone's PhD thesis,
so
there might be some good ideas to consider out of it, but the whole story
smells like the promoter is trying to sell mercedeses to Daimler (i.e.
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