Le vendredi 03 avril 2009 à 01:24 +0200, Matthias Klose a écrit :
Chris Walker schrieb:
Soeren Sonnenburg so...@debian.org writes:
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Soeren Sonnenburg so...@debian.org
* Package name: jblas
This package seems likely to be of interest
On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 12:07:25PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 01:12:25PM +0200, Patrick Schoenfeld wrote:
On Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 06:05:48PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
I think that renaming and/or removing the init script symlinks is the
Right Thing To Do,
On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 12:41:20PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
Indeed. Didn't think about the possibility of diversions. I guess
diverting the init scripts could be a solution (besides that it needs
some further work to the service managing utility). Then I'd
whole-heartedly agree with
Neil Williams wrote:
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 13:06:35 -0400
Filipus Klutiero chea...@gmail.com wrote:
Neil Williams wrote:
Primary Motivations (in order):
1. Updates to translations should not require source NMU's.
On Fri, Apr 03, 2009 at 10:18:20AM +0200, Patrick Schoenfeld wrote:
On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 12:41:20PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
Indeed. Didn't think about the possibility of diversions. I guess
diverting the init scripts could be a solution (besides that it needs
some further work to
Ben Finney wrote:
Raphael Geissert atomo64+deb...@gmail.com writes:
I planned to add support for svn in version 4 watch files (it would
be a matter of svn info svn://domain.tld/path/to/repo and some data
massaging).
But well, now that everyone is talking about it why not just tell
On Fri, 3 Apr 2009, Daniel Leidert wrote:
I would like to propose a complete rethinking of the watch files.
We have several packages, which must be prepared from a VCS or
must be repckaged. ATM several people changed to use something like
$url $pattern debian /bin/sh get-orig-source-script
On Fri, 03 Apr 2009 04:21:59 -0400
Filipus Klutiero chea...@gmail.com wrote:
That would be a nice improvement, but let me suggest another
implementation. To avoid introducing a second diff, why not updating the
regular diff (in the case of non-native packages) but indicating that
the
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
Package name: rekonq
Version: 0.0.4
Upstream Author: Andrea Diamantini adj...@gmail.com
URL: http://rekonq.sourceforge.net/
License: GPL2+
Description: KDE 4's lightweight QtWebkit
Ben Finney wrote:
Noah Slater nsla...@tumbolia.org writes:
On Fri, Apr 03, 2009 at 10:04:21AM +1100, Ben Finney wrote:
* the plethora of different concepts for mapping identifiers to
specific working trees in different VCSen (revision-id and branches
and tags, oh my!)
This could be
Hi,
* Raphael Geissert atom...@gmail.com [2009-04-02 19:45]:
[Security team BCC'ed]
Hi,
Do we really need another mozilla browser around?
Last time I heard the iceweasel maintainers were looking for other people to
help them.
I don't think yet another clone of firefox is going to do
On Fri, Apr 03, 2009 at 03:42:22PM +0200, Nico Golde n...@ngolde.de wrote:
Hi,
* Raphael Geissert atom...@gmail.com [2009-04-02 19:45]:
[Security team BCC'ed]
Hi,
Do we really need another mozilla browser around?
Last time I heard the iceweasel maintainers were looking for other
On 03 Apr 15:42, Nico Golde wrote:
Hi,
* Raphael Geissert atom...@gmail.com [2009-04-02 19:45]:
[Security team BCC'ed]
Hi,
Do we really need another mozilla browser around?
Last time I heard the iceweasel maintainers were looking for other people
to
help them.
I don't
Hello,
Daniel Leidert wrote:
Andreas Tille wrote:
in October last year there was a longish discussion about name space
pollution regarding plink. If you like to spend some time you should
read the complete log of #503367 [1].
I decided to put an end now on this issue to make sure it will
Matthias Klose d...@debian.org writes:
Chris Walker schrieb:
Soeren Sonnenburg so...@debian.org writes:
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Soeren Sonnenburg so...@debian.org
* Package name: jblas
This package seems likely to be of interest to debian-science, so I'm
On Fri, 3 Apr 2009, Steffen Moeller wrote:
we should ask the technical committee to rule over it. And maybe this
needs some voting in the end.
Who is this *we*? Do you volunteer?
IMHO plink should be renamed because it is way less popular than the
putty tool. So we will loose this voting
On 3 April 2009 at 07:51, Sylvestre Ledru wrote:
| Le vendredi 03 avril 2009 01:24 +0200, Matthias Klose a crit :
| Chris Walker schrieb:
| Soeren Sonnenburg so...@debian.org writes:
|
| Package: wnpp
| Severity: wishlist
| Owner: Soeren Sonnenburg so...@debian.org
|
| *
Neil Williams writes (Re: DEP-4: The TDeb specification.):
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 13:06:35 -0400
Filipus Klutiero chea...@gmail.com wrote:
What is the purpose of creating a new binary package format for this (as
opposed to reusing, say, the deb format)?
To support easier management of the
On Fri, 03 Apr 2009 04:21:59 -0400
Filipus Klutiero chea...@gmail.com wrote:
That would be a nice improvement, but let me suggest another
implementation. To avoid introducing a second diff, why not updating the
regular diff (in the case of non-native packages) but indicating that
the
On Fri, 3 Apr 2009 18:46:48 +0100
Ian Jackson i...@davenant.greenend.org.uk wrote:
Neil Williams writes (Re: DEP-4: The TDeb specification.):
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 13:06:35 -0400
Filipus Klutiero chea...@gmail.com wrote:
What is the purpose of creating a new binary package format for this
On Fri, 03 Apr 2009 16:45:46 -0400
Filipus Klutiero chea...@gmail.com wrote:
Please note:
All of the implementation details can wait until after Squeeze - all
that is needed for this release cycle is that apt and dpkg can handle a
migration from Squeeze to Squeeze+1 where packages being upgraded
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Ehren Kret ehren.k...@gmail.com
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* Package name: protobuf
Version : 2.0.3
Upstream Author : Kenton Varda ken...@google.com, et al.
* URL : http://code.google.com/p/protobuf/
*
Hi,
one of the changes in 3.8.1 was, that support for tmpfs on /var/run (and
/var/tmp) became mandatory [9.3.2]. Lintian is now also complaining very loudly
(error) if your package ships a directory in /var/run or /var/tmp and suggests
to create them in the init script.
While I can see the
Cyril Brulebois k...@debian.org writes:
Vincent Fourmond fourm...@debian.org (01/04/2009):
Although I admit that schroot is a neat tool to deal with that, it is
overkill in the case of wine, and much too complex for users that would
be interested to use wine: one of the public that can be
On Friday 03 April 2009 23:02:28 Ehren Kret wrote:
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Ehren Kret ehren.k...@gmail.com
* Package name: protobuf
Version : 2.0.3
Upstream Author : Kenton Varda ken...@google.com, et al.
* URL :
Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org writes:
1.) It's not the default on Debian anyway
It is, however, a standard and supported option and it's the default in
Ubuntu. The FHS is silent about directories in /var/run across reboots
but requires that all files in /var/run be deleted on reboot.
4.)
Andreas Tille wrote:
[...]
One additional thought: We store packaging Vcs and upstream homepage
in debian/control. What about storing upstream Vcs there as well and
teach uscan to look there as well. Just a rough thought.
And do what with it? how will it know what it should look for?
Ben Finney wrote:
[...]
For my purposes, I would like to be able to specify “fetch from the
VCS at $URL, getting the specific working tree referenced by
identifier $ID” and then the rest of what uscan does for generating
an original source archive from the working tree.
That's made more
Russ Allbery wrote:
Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org writes:
Hi Russ
1.) It's not the default on Debian anyway
It is, however, a standard and supported option and it's the default in
Hm, what standard exactly do you refer too.
Ubuntu. The FHS is silent about
Michael Biebl wrote:
Russ Allbery wrote:
Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org writes:
5.) If your package does not have an init script (I happen to maintain
two such packages), I now have to create init scripts simply to create a
/var/run directory. That's insane and even more wasting cpu cycles.
Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org writes:
Russ Allbery wrote:
It is, however, a standard and supported option and it's the default in
Hm, what standard exactly do you refer too.
standard, adjective [1622]
2) (a) regularly and widely used, available, or supplied
Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org writes:
Another class of services which might be affected, are daemons/programs
started by inetd.
Why would they put anything in /var/run?
--
Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/
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Daniel Leidert wrote:
[...]
I would like to propose a complete rethinking of the watch files.
We have several packages, which must be prepared from a VCS or
must be repckaged. ATM several people changed to use something like
$url $pattern debian /bin/sh
Russ Allbery wrote:
Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org writes:
Another class of services which might be affected, are daemons/programs
started by inetd.
Why would they put anything in /var/run?
I guess for the same reasons why other system daemons put stuff in /var/run
Michael
--
Why is
Russ Allbery wrote:
Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org writes:
Russ Allbery wrote:
It is, however, a standard and supported option and it's the default in
Hm, what standard exactly do you refer too.
standard, adjective [1622]
2) (a) regularly and widely
Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org writes:
Russ Allbery wrote:
Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org writes:
Another class of services which might be affected, are
daemons/programs started by inetd.
Why would they put anything in /var/run?
I guess for the same reasons why other system daemons put
Russ Allbery wrote:
Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org writes:
Russ Allbery wrote:
Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org writes:
Another class of services which might be affected, are
daemons/programs started by inetd.
Why would they put anything in /var/run?
I guess for the same reasons why
Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org writes:
Why is a system service that is started by inetd or D-Bus not a daemon?
Remember the times when exim4 or samba could still be started via inetd
(although those no longer support inetd mode afaik).
Why would you store your PID somewhere if you're started
Russ Allbery schrieb:
I believe the original motivation for tmpfs /var/run in Solaris was that
it was pointless to maintain scripts that try to clean /var/run (or /tmp
or any other defined-transient directory) on boot, which can be dangerous
and tricky if you don't write them carefully, when
Michael Biebl wrote:
Russ Allbery schrieb:
[...]
in tmpfs and have the cleaning happen automatically without doing any
work. It simplifies the boot process and eliminates a whole class of
I'm not sure I get that point. Why is the boot process simplified if now
every script has to check
Raphael Geissert atomo64+deb...@gmail.com writes:
As Russ already said, the FHS requires that all files in /var/run be
deleted on reboot; so there's a myriad of bogus init scripts.
Well, to be fair, it requires that all *files* be deleted, not
directories. It doesn't really say anything clear
Raphael Geissert atomo64+deb...@gmail.com writes:
Ben Finney wrote:
* the fact that the URL doesn't necessarily indicate what VCS tool is
needed to interact with it (just about all of them allow an HTTP URL
for public read-only access, so that's what will commonly be used
here)
On Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 06:54:22PM +0200, Milan P. Stanic m...@arvanta.net
was heard to say:
On Wed, 2009-04-01 at 09:09, Mike Bird wrote:
On Wed April 1 2009 00:03:10 Sune Vuorela wrote:
Qoreutils is a reimplementation of the classic tools from coreutils,
such as ls, mkdir and cp
Ben Finney wrote:
Raphael Geissert atomo64+deb...@gmail.com writes:
Ben Finney wrote:
* the fact that the URL doesn't necessarily indicate what VCS tool is
needed to interact with it (just about all of them allow an HTTP URL
for public read-only access, so that's what will commonly
Raphael Geissert atomo64+deb...@gmail.com writes:
Ben Finney wrote:
I'd prefer, if the information is to be encoded in the URL, that
the URL should remain useable as-is with the VCS tool itself.
I know that's possible for ‘svn+http://’, but it's not possible
for ‘bzr+http://’ if the
On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 7:37 AM, Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org wrote:
Afaik, Ubuntu is the only Linux distro which supports and uses tmpfs by
default.
The OpenEmbedded distros do this too, I've especially seen that the
ones associated with OpenMoko do that.
In addition the pkg-fso folk's
On Sat, Apr 04, 2009 at 01:14:51AM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
Ubuntu. The FHS is silent about directories in /var/run across reboots
but requires that all files in /var/run be deleted on reboot.
4.) You have to manually cleanup in postrm. (I guess most packages will
forget
that,
On Fri, Apr 03, 2009 at 11:25:22PM +0200, Sune Vuorela wrote:
On Friday 03 April 2009 23:02:28 Ehren Kret wrote:
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Ehren Kret ehren.k...@gmail.com
* Package name: protobuf
Version : 2.0.3
Upstream Author : Kenton Varda
[Michael Biebl]
I believe the original motivation for tmpfs /var/run in Solaris was
that it was pointless to maintain scripts that try to clean
/var/run (or /tmp or any other defined-transient directory) on
boot, which can be dangerous and tricky if you don't write them
carefully, when you
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