Bonjour,
C'est avec grand plaisir que nous vous contacterons pour vous informer d'une
occasion d'affaires et pour laquelle nous recherchons un partenaire sérieux.
En effet, nous sommes à la tête d'une Société de transport et de Consignation
basée en République de Côte d'ivoire. Notre
Marco d'Itri wrote:
On May 06, Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org wrote:
Given that the default configuration is extremely simplistic and doesn???t
use a percent of either exim or postfix features, I still wonder why it
is not something like nullmailer or ssmtp.
Because it's expected from a
Aurelien Jarno aurel...@aurel32.net writes:
Michael Prokop a écrit :
* Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org wrote:
Le mercredi 06 mai 2009 =C3=A0 18:18 +0200, Michael Prokop a =C3=A9crit :
Where did this decission (and the discussion around it) took place?
I can't find anything neither on
Luk Claes wrote:
Steve Langasek wrote:
On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 05:06:26PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
also sprach Carsten Hey cars...@debian.org [2009.05.05.1645 +0200]:
FWIW, Ubuntu did what I consider the right thing:
So, does anybody still see reasons to continue supporting a standalone
/usr?
There had been lots of responses to that.
You havent presented any supporting your request, so why do you
want it? Please provide a detailed real-world case. A partial list of
invalid reasons is: - Some upstream
On Wed, May 06, 2009 at 02:21:05PM -0500, John Goerzen wrote:
So I think the problem here is not that you made a technically bad
decision. It sounds like you made a good decision. It's how it was
communicated.
1) It didn't happen on any of the official Debian places that
developers read.
Le jeudi 07 mai 2009 à 03:24 +0200, Marco d'Itri a écrit :
Because it's expected from a UNIX system to be able to deliver mail to
local mailboxes.
And who cares a shit about system emails piling up in /var/mail?
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: :' :
`. `' “I recommend you to learn English
Le jeudi 07 mai 2009 à 11:02 +1000, Ben Finney a écrit :
Those who want a read-only ‘/usr’ don't seriously try to leave it
read-only while installing or upgrading packages, do they?
But with RPM this works!
--
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: :' :
`. `' “I recommend you to learn English in
2009/5/7 Brian May b...@snoopy.debian.net:
esmtp can do this, if you configure it to use procmail or something.
I use and like esmtp, but I don't see how we could depend on it as
default MTA if it has to deliver local mail: like you said there must
be procmail installed and esmtp needs some
This one time, at band camp, Josselin Mouette said:
Le jeudi 07 mai 2009 à 11:02 +1000, Ben Finney a écrit :
Those who want a read-only ‘/usr’ don't seriously try to leave it
read-only while installing or upgrading packages, do they?
But with RPM this works!
If that is the case, that's
Stephen Gran wrote:
This one time, at band camp, Josselin Mouette said:
Le jeudi 07 mai 2009 à 11:02 +1000, Ben Finney a écrit :
Those who want a read-only ‘/usr’ don't seriously try to leave it
read-only while installing or upgrading packages, do they?
But with RPM this works!
If that is
On Thu, May 07, 2009 at 10:52:47AM +0530, Ganesan Rajagopal wrote:
Aurelien Jarno aurel...@aurel32.net writes:
Should we also ask permission to everybody before uploading a new
version of the libc?
Of course, not :-). But this one sounds like a big change on the face of it
and raises
Ana Guerrero a écrit :
On Thu, May 07, 2009 at 10:52:47AM +0530, Ganesan Rajagopal wrote:
Aurelien Jarno aurel...@aurel32.net writes:
Should we also ask permission to everybody before uploading a new
version of the libc?
Of course, not :-). But this one sounds like a big change on the face of
Le jeudi 07 mai 2009 à 09:37 +0200, Giacomo A. Catenazzi a écrit :
Stephen Gran wrote:
But with RPM this works!
If that is the case, that's about the only thing that works with RPM.
Or I missed what RPM do with read-only partitions?
Next time I’ll add the irony tags.
There has been a
Il giorno mer, 06/05/2009 alle 23.53 +0200, Josselin Mouette ha scritto:
Given that the default configuration is extremely simplistic and doesn’t
use a percent of either exim or postfix features, I still wonder why it
is not something like nullmailer or ssmtp.
Is nullmailer actively upstream
On Thu, 7 May 2009, Aurelien Jarno wrote:
not to see this on slashdot
or other website.
There is a German (not necessarily Linux related) news site who reported
immediately:
http://www.golem.de/0905/66930.html
Kind regards
Andreas.
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On Thu, May 07, 2009 at 10:22:33AM +0200, Ana Guerrero wrote:
Take Aurélien' personal post, remove all the personal comments that he could
write in his blog but not to d-d-a, and you will see it is not worth a mail
to d-d-a: hey, instead of package direclty Drepper's glibc, our glibc will
be
On Thu, 07 May 2009 08:01:11 +0200
Giacomo Catenazzi c...@debian.org wrote:
Luk Claes wrote:
Steve Langasek wrote:
On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 05:06:26PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
also sprach Carsten Hey cars...@debian.org [2009.05.05.1645
+0200]:
FWIW, Ubuntu did what I consider
Le jeudi 07 mai 2009 à 13:23 +0200, Harald Braumann a écrit :
No, please don't use an esoteric mailer. People who don't know and
don't want to know about their local mailer don't need to know about
Postfix' complexity. They can set up Postfix with a single debconf
questions to a minimal
also sprach Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org [2009.05.07.1328 +0200]:
How is that an improvement over Exim?
There are some of us that have a greater trust level into the
security and design of postfix.
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: :' : proud Debian
On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Jon Dowland
jon+debian-de...@alcopop.org wrote:
only to say that this is really just applying a patch, no need to panic.
How about defaulting to assume if the maintainer hasn't posted,
there's no reason to panic. Assume the maintainer knows better than
slashdot
Jon Dowland, 2009-05-07 11:51:43 +0100 :
I disagree, this would still warrant a post. Even if the impact is
insignificant, that is worth saying - we're doing this, and there's
no reason to worry.
I'll bite.
The gforge package in Debian has been switched from GForge to
FusionForge, which is
On 2009-05-07, martin f krafft madd...@debian.org wrote:
also sprach Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org [2009.05.07.1328 +0200]:
How is that an improvement over Exim?
There are some of us that have a greater trust level into the
security and design of postfix.
DSA uses Exim on their boxes and
Martin Langhoff wrote:
On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Jon Dowland
jon+debian-de...@alcopop.org wrote:
only to say that this is really just applying a patch, no need to panic.
How about defaulting to assume if the maintainer hasn't posted,
there's no reason to panic. Assume the maintainer
Le jeudi 07 mai 2009 à 13:36 +0200, martin f krafft a écrit :
also sprach Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org [2009.05.07.1328 +0200]:
How is that an improvement over Exim?
There are some of us that have a greater trust level into the
security and design of postfix.
Both have a very good
On May 07, Harald Braumann ha...@unheit.net wrote:
No, please don't use an esoteric mailer. People who don't know and
don't want to know about their local mailer don't need to know about
Postfix' complexity. They can set up Postfix with a single debconf
questions to a minimal configuration.
Hi debian-devel,
From policy 7.2 Binary Dependencies - Depends, Recommends, Suggests, Enhances,
Pre-Depends
Recommends
This declares a strong, but not absolute, dependency.
The Recommends field should list packages that would be found together
with this one in all but unusual
Harald Braumann wrote:
On Thu, 07 May 2009 08:01:11 +0200
Giacomo Catenazzi c...@debian.org wrote:
No, most of users don't need a full MTA, but only a local MTA
(usually only sendmail command, but ev. only a socket listening to
localhost:25).
SO I would propose a more simple mailer (esmtpd,
also sprach Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org [2009.05.07.1423 +0200]:
Both have a very good security track record, so I don’t think the design
alone justifies a possibly painful transition.
Where's the pain?
0. figure out how to solve #508644 properly, and not only for
default-mta,
On Thu, 07 May 2009, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le jeudi 07 mai 2009 à 13:23 +0200, Harald Braumann a écrit :
No, please don't use an esoteric mailer. People who don't know and
don't want to know about their local mailer don't need to know about
Postfix' complexity. They can set up Postfix
On Thu, 07 May 2009, Ben Finney wrote:
Those who want a read-only ???/usr??? don't seriously try to leave it
read-only while installing or upgrading packages, do they?
No. And we hook apt to automatically remount stuff rw before it, and try to
remount ro after. It is easy, it works
Le jeudi 07 mai 2009 à 10:35 -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh a
écrit :
I personally find postfix to be lighter and I consider it saner, more secure
in theory, and much easier to configure for complex tasks.
From my personal experience, postfix makes it easier to do simple tasks,
while exim
On Tue, 5 May 2009, Russ Allbery wrote:
Stefano Zacchiroli z...@debian.org writes:
Yes, the most repeated argument has been mount /usr via NFS.
Unfortunately, nobody yet explained how do they update the resulting
cluster of machines.
It's not particularly difficult. You update the system
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On 07-05-2009 11:29, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le jeudi 07 mai 2009 à 10:35 -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh a
écrit :
I personally find postfix to be lighter and I consider it saner, more secure
in theory, and much easier to configure for
On Thu, 07 May 2009 13:28:33 +0200
Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org wrote:
Le jeudi 07 mai 2009 à 13:23 +0200, Harald Braumann a écrit :
No, please don't use an esoteric mailer. People who don't know and
don't want to know about their local mailer don't need to know about
Postfix'
Y Giridhar Appaji Nag app...@debian.org wrote:
I filed a lintian wishlist bug (#527363) requesting a I/W tag when non
documentation packages recommend documentation packages.
That might be a good idea. However, for the texlive packages, we'll just
add lintian overrides.
With
On Thu, May 07 2009, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le jeudi 07 mai 2009 à 11:02 +1000, Ben Finney a écrit :
Those who want a read-only ‘/usr’ don't seriously try to leave it
read-only while installing or upgrading packages, do they?
,[ Excerpt from /etc/apt/apt.conf ]
| DPkg
| {
|// Auto
Package: wnpp
Severity: normal
Maintainer asked for help with this package; here his words:
I would welcome a second
set of eyeballs on it - particularly someone with a little more knowledge of
gtk and automake than me. Upstream is pretty responsive (both to me and to
incoming Debian bug
On Thu, 7 May 2009 17:55:44 +0530
Y Giridhar Appaji Nag app...@debian.org wrote:
Would there be any objections to filing minor/wishlist bugs against these
packages? I am including a tentative dd-list corresponding to the packages
[1] that I found after manually removing some packages [2]. I
Y Giridhar Appaji Nag ha scritto:
Would there be any objections to filing minor/wishlist bugs against these
packages? I am including a tentative dd-list corresponding to the packages
[1] that I found after manually removing some packages [2]. I will modify it
based on suggestions.
Luca
Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org writes:
On Thu, May 07 2009, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le jeudi 07 mai 2009 à 11:02 +1000, Ben Finney a écrit :
Those who want a read-only ‘/usr’ don't seriously try to leave it
read-only while installing or upgrading packages, do they?
,[
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Philipp Kern pk...@debian.org
* Package name: gobby-0.5
Version : 0.4.92
Upstream Author : Armin Burgmeier ar...@arbur.net
* URL : http://gobby.0x539.de/
* License : GPL-2+
Programming Lang: C++
Description :
The following is a listing of packages for which help has been requested
through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the
last week.
Total number of orphaned packages: 389 (new: 9)
Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 111 (new: 1)
Total number of packages
On Thu, May 07 2009, Ben Finney wrote:
Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org writes:
On Thu, May 07 2009, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le jeudi 07 mai 2009 à 11:02 +1000, Ben Finney a écrit :
Those who want a read-only ‘/usr’ don't seriously try to leave it
read-only while installing or
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 1:01 AM, Harald Braumann ha...@unheit.net wrote:
I never talked about Exim. I was just opposing the proposition, that
some esoteric mailer like nullsmtp or esmtp will become the default in
Debian.
I find the notion of a default MTA to be silly. Most desktops or
laptops
As a practical matter, downgrading these dependencies will cause
aptitude and other package managers to believe that the documentation
is unnecessary and suggest removing it.
Daniel
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I bringed the discussion in
pe, 2009-05-08 kello 11:43 +0800, Paul Wise kirjoitti:
I find the notion of a default MTA to be silly. Most desktops or
laptops or cellphones proably do not need an MTA.
I'd agree, were it not for cron.
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Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org writes:
On Thu, May 07 2009, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le jeudi 07 mai 2009 à 11:02 +1000, Ben Finney a écrit :
Those who want a read-only ‘/usr’ don't seriously try to leave it
read-only while installing or upgrading packages, do they?
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