Bonjour,
Effectivement, le timing pour réagir est un peu court, puisque votre article
est déjà en ligne:
http://pro.01net.com/editorial/504451/microsoft-met-20-000-lignes-de-code-a-la-disposition-de-la-communaute-linux/
Je fais suivre votre demande à une liste de diffusion Debian pour
Raphael Geissert wrote:
Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote:
My only doubt, also stated in previous thread is the dash essential.
It is the goal of many people to remove bash (and dash) and some other
packages from essential. But at this time, it is needed.
In general it is very difficult to remove
On 2009-07-21, Goswin von Brederlow goswin-...@web.de wrote:
Philipp Kern tr...@philkern.de writes:
On 2009-07-20, Stéphane Glondu st...@glondu.net wrote:
For example, each OCaml transition involve rebuilding a lot of packages
(about 139), with 6 levels of dependencies. So if some build
On Jul 20, 2009, at 20:44, martin f krafft wrote:
Hey folks,
As part of my research[0], I have two questions:
Do you know any tools or teams using tools that, like lintian,
automatically check packages (or whatever it is that the team is
working on) and thereby helps to maintain a common
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On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 12:59 +0200, Julian Andres Klode wrote:
[snip]
The Desktop Notifications framework provides a standard way of doing
passive pop-up notifications on the Linux desktop. These are
designed to notify the user of something without interrupting their
work with a dialog box
Joey Hess jo...@debian.org writes:
Installing third party debhelper commands won't break anything in
debhelper, but nor will dh automatically call random such commands. See
the sequence addon information in debhelper's PROGRAMMING file for
information about adding third-party commands to dh
Hello
Jonathan Yu jonathan.i...@gmail.com writes:
I see these two tools as complementary, rather than competing,
technologies. You can use the data parsed via Augeas (which to me
seems like more of a lexer/tokenizer part, kind of like what yacc/lex
do) to get data from the file using a
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 12:40:17AM +0200, Christian Hammers wrote:
So I try to get this working on Debian, too, and create a libmysqld0
package with a shared library instead. Speaking of it, which soname
version should I give it? 0.0.0? Or something like 0.5137.0 to somehow
encode a version as
Hi Martin,
are you interested only in Debian-Teams?
The eZComponents project[0] uses codesniffer[1] to check for coding styles,
e.g. indentation, necessary documentation blocks, deprecated php functions.
Beste Gruesse,
Thomas
[0] http://ezcomponents.org
[1]
Giacomo A. Catenazzi c...@debian.org writes:
But probably for the shell cases it is easier to remove 'essential'
flag (especially for a minimal nearly POSIX-like shell like dash),
because the interface of #!/bin/sh is defined in policy (10.3).
Except that every package in Debian that
also sprach Thomas Koch tho...@koch.ro [2009.07.21.1454 +0200]:
are you interested only in Debian-Teams?
Mostly, but …
The eZComponents project[0] uses codesniffer[1] to check for coding styles,
e.g. indentation, necessary documentation blocks, deprecated php functions.
… thanks for the
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 07:38:54AM +, Philipp Kern wrote:
On 2009-07-21, Goswin von Brederlow goswin-...@web.de wrote:
The long wait is the signing, not the dinstall run. Even without
accepted dinstall runs 4 times a day now.
But I have to say I'm totaly against unsigned uploads. The
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 06:14:27AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
Except that every package in Debian that explicitly uses bash has no
declared dependency on bash because it's essential. I think attempting to
go through and add all those dependencies and test would be a huge waste
of time and
ti, 2009-07-21 kello 15:19 +0200, martin f krafft kirjoitti:
Several people also hinted at piuparts, but that's not exactly what
I wanted, since piuparts is really more of a general quality
assurance tool, intended mostly to be run by few people over many
packages, whereas lintian and
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 12:40:17AM +0200, Christian Hammers wrote:
Am Mon, 20 Jul 2009 23:18:23 +0100
schrieb Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net:
If other libraries are including this library, then why is libmysqld
not being provided as a properly-versioned shared object?
Upstream, in this
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On 2009-04-24 13:53, Frans Pop wrote:
On Friday 24 April 2009, Frans Pop wrote:
Florian Lohoff wrote:
rdate ist not a replacement for ntpdate - it does not use the ntp
protocol but the time protocol (builtin inetd) - So making
ntpdate depend on rdate is not a solution as it changes the
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[Wouter Verhelst]
Whether we should recommend using static libraries is another matter
entirely; indeed performance does go down a teeny weeny bit when using
shared libraries, but the difference shouldn't be *that* large; if it
is, that probably means they're using a twisty maze of function
Russ Allbery wrote:
Giacomo A. Catenazzi c...@debian.org writes:
But probably for the shell cases it is easier to remove 'essential'
flag (especially for a minimal nearly POSIX-like shell like dash),
because the interface of #!/bin/sh is defined in policy (10.3).
Except that every package in
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 09:17:28AM -0500, Peter Samuelson wrote:
[Wouter Verhelst]
Whether we should recommend using static libraries is another matter
entirely; indeed performance does go down a teeny weeny bit when using
shared libraries, but the difference shouldn't be *that* large; if
also sprach Lars Wirzenius l...@liw.fi [2009.07.21.1527 +0200]:
piuparts is _intended_ to be run by every uploader, actually. Or
at least that was my intention back when I wrote it.
Okay, that wasn't my impression, sorry for spreading FUD.
Largely due to the need of maintaining a full chroot
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 05:22:07PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
also sprach Lars Wirzenius l...@liw.fi [2009.07.21.1527 +0200]:
piuparts is _intended_ to be run by every uploader, actually. Or
at least that was my intention back when I wrote it.
Okay, that wasn't my impression, sorry for
On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 17:22:07 +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
Largely due to the need of maintaining a full chroot just for its
use, I thought piuparts had too high of a barrier of
entry/maintenance to be used by everyone. Am I completely wrong?
It can use pbuilder's chroot, and pbuilder
martin f krafft wrote:
also sprach Lars Wirzenius l...@liw.fi [2009.07.21.1527 +0200]:
piuparts is _intended_ to be run by every uploader, actually. Or
at least that was my intention back when I wrote it.
Okay, that wasn't my impression, sorry for spreading FUD.
Largely due to the need of
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 11:36 AM, gregor herrmanngre...@debian.org wrote:
On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 17:22:07 +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
Largely due to the need of maintaining a full chroot just for its
use, I thought piuparts had too high of a barrier of
entry/maintenance to be used by everyone.
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also sprach gregor herrmann gre...@debian.org [2009.07.21.1736 +0200]:
But I have to admit that I run it very rarely because it takes way
too long (including the time to unpack pbuilder's base.tgz).
Has anyone integrated it with sbuild? After all, couldn't it just
use the current chroot in
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 08:44:41PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
Do you know any tools or teams using tools that, like lintian,
automatically check packages (or whatever it is that the team is
working on) and thereby helps to maintain a common baseline?
Emdebian is using edos-debcheck to
Jonathan Yu wrote:
I'd like to see a feature to use cowbuilder's chroot instead, though I
don't know of the technical challenges there. Certainly such a feature
would make it easier to use and thus run more often.
That would be useful. It requires adding explicit support in piuparts
(with the
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 11:44:07AM -0400, Jonathan Yu wrote:
Better yet, if we could periodically run it on all of the modules in
our SVN repository (pkg-perl) and display the logs, then it would give
us a nice to-do list of things to look at.
On Tue, 21 Jul 2009, Russ Allbery wrote:
Giacomo A. Catenazzi c...@debian.org writes:
But probably for the shell cases it is easier to remove 'essential'
flag (especially for a minimal nearly POSIX-like shell like dash),
because the interface of #!/bin/sh is defined in policy (10.3).
On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:44:07 -0400, Jonathan Yu wrote:
But I have to admit that I run it very rarely because it takes way
too long (including the time to unpack pbuilder's base.tgz).
In that case, using cowbuilder instead could work,
#389223
Cheers,
gregor
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Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
It is not like you will be able to remove bash from the vast majority of
the Debian systems out there anyway, so it doesn't matter if it remains
essential for a while.
The goal of dropping bash from essential is not to remove bash from the
systems (or from
Raphael Geissert wrote:
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
It is not like you will be able to remove bash from the vast majority of
the Debian systems out there anyway, so it doesn't matter if it remains
essential for a while.
The goal of dropping bash from essential is not to remove bash
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
The embedded crowd would want to find a way to get rid of bash, though,
and trying to make bash a non-essential package seems like a worthwile
effort because of that. It can even be reasonably automated, since you
can rgrep /bin/bash to find out scripts that
Hi James:
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 12:11 PM, James Vegajames...@debian.org wrote:
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 11:44:07AM -0400, Jonathan Yu wrote:
Better yet, if we could periodically run it on all of the modules in
our SVN repository (pkg-perl) and display the logs, then it would give
us a nice
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 05:51:02PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
also sprach gregor herrmann gre...@debian.org [2009.07.21.1736 +0200]:
But I have to admit that I run it very rarely because it takes way
too long (including the time to unpack pbuilder's base.tgz).
Has anyone integrated it
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 02:08:26PM -0400, Jonathan Yu wrote:
Hi James:
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 12:11 PM, James Vegajames...@debian.org wrote:
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 11:44:07AM -0400, Jonathan Yu wrote:
Better yet, if we could periodically run it on all of the modules in
our SVN
Hey,
On 21/07/2009 James Vega wrote:
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 02:08:26PM -0400, Jonathan Yu wrote:
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 12:11 PM, James Vegajames...@debian.org wrote:
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 11:44:07AM -0400, Jonathan Yu wrote:
Better yet, if we could periodically run it on all of the
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On 2009-07-21 Wouter Verhelst wrote:
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 12:40:17AM +0200, Christian Hammers wrote:
Am Mon, 20 Jul 2009 23:18:23 +0100
schrieb Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net:
If other libraries are including this library, then why is libmysqld
not being provided as a
On 2009-07-21, Christian Hammers c...@debian.org wrote:
First, thanks for the long answer, Wouter!
To wrap it up:
* static libraries are a PITA in case of security problems
* static libraries are a PITA for other projects as they have no versions
* shared libraries with self chosen soname
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 01:22:47PM +, Clint Adams wrote:
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 06:14:27AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
Except that every package in Debian that explicitly uses bash has no
declared dependency on bash because it's essential. I think attempting to
go through and add all
Am Tue, 21 Jul 2009 22:13:55 + (UTC)
schrieb Philipp Kern tr...@philkern.de:
On 2009-07-21, Christian Hammers c...@debian.org wrote:
First, thanks for the long answer, Wouter!
To wrap it up:
* static libraries are a PITA in case of security problems
* static libraries are a PITA
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On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 04:52:52PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
As I understand it, the performance drawbacks of a shared library are:
1) The PIC code and its use of a GOT. Given that we're talking about a
PIC static library, this is not relevant.
The argument was that a shared
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* Giacomo A. Catenazzi:
but policy recommend not to use bash features on scripts (10.3),
and the availability of a POSIX-shell (with few extension) is
already provided by policy (still 10.3), thus no need to add
package dependencies.
When in doubt, use /bin/bash isn't really a recommendation
Sorry list,
if you see it again; yesterday I posted this to d-u and apart from a
quick but useless reply got no reaction. I can't tell whether my
English is to bad, or he was just trolling.
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Frans Pop wrote:
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
The embedded crowd would want to find a way to get rid of bash, though,
and trying to make bash a non-essential package seems like a worthwile
effort because of that. It can even be reasonably automated, since you
can rgrep /bin/bash to
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