On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 03:40:22PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
Because we want our users to be able to patch and rebuild our software to
suit their needs. Asking them to set up a chroot build environment is
asking quite a lot.
AOL. Yesterday night I drafted a reply (which has lingered in my
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 10:48:24AM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote:
Martin Koegler, le Tue 19 Jan 2010 09:27:07 +0100, a écrit :
Samuel Thibault sthiba...@debian.org wrote:
Marc Leeman, le Sun 17 Jan 2010 22:16:17 +0100, a écrit :
* Package name: pthsem
Mmm, could this perhaps
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 02:22:33PM +1300, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
Why spend a lot of time on tasks that provide little benefit, and also
some disadvantages (in some cases, the fixes might be non-obvious, and
requires changes to the packaging that tend to obscure it, for example
by using
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 11:56:00AM +1100, Ben Finney wrote:
an intermediate format
(be it text, or binary like .odt or .xls) and require the addition of
I can't speak for the Debian ftpmaster team, but I would think the usual
guideline applies: We should seek the preferred form of the work
Package: netatalk
Version: 2.0.5-2
Severity: important
Holger Levsen:
how about the compromise and doing both, except that for (1) we file the bugs
with severity important?
Hi Jonas,
as recently pointed out on debian-devel [1], the netatalk package is
accidently linked against libssl on
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 09:55:35AM +0100, Fabian Greffrath wrote:
as recently pointed out on debian-devel [1], the netatalk package is
accidently linked against libssl on some arches due to dirty buildd
chroots. To avoid this license violation, explicit Build-Conflicts
against libssl-dev
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 02:36:08PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
Neil McGovern ne...@debian.org writes:
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 11:59:35AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
This is a bug in the netatalk Debian packaging. You cannot assume the
package will be built in a clean chroot; among other
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 11:32:17PM +0100, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote:
Would it be time to start looking at LVM snapshops + sbuild perhaps?
we already have two or three buildds doing that... The buildd team (esp.
HE) working on that and if it works out to be stable enough, we can see
if we can
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 10:25:01AM +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 09:55:35AM +0100, Fabian Greffrath wrote:
as recently pointed out on debian-devel [1], the netatalk package
is accidently linked against libssl on some arches due to dirty
buildd chroots. To avoid this
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 04:04:07PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
hu? since when do we have a broader interest in people patching and
rebuilding packages? I know that there are *some* people interested in
that (me included) but I don't see that a broader audience wants to
support that.
Uh,
On 20/01/10 at 00:48 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 02:22:33PM +1300, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
Why spend a lot of time on tasks that provide little benefit, and also
some disadvantages (in some cases, the fixes might be non-obvious, and
requires changes to the packaging
On 20/01/10 at 09:30 +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 03:40:22PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
Because we want our users to be able to patch and rebuild our software to
suit their needs. Asking them to set up a chroot build environment is
asking quite a lot.
AOL.
Charles Plessy a écrit :
Dear all,
I would like to ask on this list a question I asked to the FTP team last
December, and for which I have not received answer yet.
Is tabular data in a binary format that can be read, written, modified and
exported using free software acceptable for
2010/1/20 Jean-Christophe Dubacq jcduba...@free.fr:
Charles Plessy a écrit :
Dear all,
I would like to ask on this list a question I asked to the FTP team last
December, and for which I have not received answer yet.
Is tabular data in a binary format that can be read, written, modified and
Le Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 09:54:44AM +0100, Andreas Tille a écrit :
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 11:56:00AM +1100, Ben Finney wrote:
an intermediate format
(be it text, or binary like .odt or .xls) and require the addition of
I can't speak for the Debian ftpmaster team, but I would think the
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 10:13:46PM +1300, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
What's the problem with documentation such as
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto (except it's an Ubuntu
documentation)? I think that the process of building with pbuilder is
reasonably well documented.
Let's be realistic. We
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 01:28:49AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 10:25:01AM +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 09:55:35AM +0100, Fabian Greffrath wrote:
as recently pointed out on debian-devel [1], the netatalk package
is accidently linked against
Thank you for the additional information you have supplied regarding
this Bug report.
This is an automatically generated reply to let you know your message
has been received.
Your message is being forwarded to the package maintainers and other
interested parties for their attention; they will
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 07:07:38PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
Perhaps it would be a reasonable compromise if README.Source would
mention a short command line which converts the data into text form?
this time, I disagree with you: all the above is a lot of work that I am not
willing to
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 10:37:48PM +1300, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
I'm not asking anyone to spend time on this task, but I still consider
missing build-conflicts a bug. Ignoring these bugs by insisting on clean
chroot environments for all official package builds is no solution - what if
one
tags 565969 pending
thanks
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 11:15:23AM +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 01:28:49AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 10:25:01AM +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 09:55:35AM +0100, Fabian Greffrath wrote:
as
* Lucas Nussbaum lu...@lucas-nussbaum.net [100120 01:26]:
There are two ways to attack that problem:
(1) We decide that we want to provide the guarantee that packages
build the correct way in unclean envs. That mean making such bugs RC,
basically, and making efforts to find such bugs.
If you
Am Mittwoch, den 20.01.2010, 11:22 +0100 schrieb Andreas Tille:
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 07:07:38PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
this time, I disagree with you: all the above is a lot of work that I am not
willing to do. A user of the R software is able to do this conversion by
himself, so I
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 02:02:48PM +0100, Manuel Prinz wrote:
Well, my compromise suggestion was intended to be a fallback if
ftpmaster insists on the rejection.
I do not expect them to, as they have been very open to reasonable
arguments in the past. (At least that is my experience.)
I
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 3:42 PM, Andreas Tille andr...@an3as.eu wrote:
Adding HOWTOs
to README.Source is IMHO not worth the overhead it produces on the
maintainer's side. Every R user knows (well, should know) how to deal
with those files.
Yes, but you can not assume that ftpmaster is an R
Norbert Preining prein...@logic.at writes:
Can someone of the proposers of this (nice? stupid? rubbish?) format
explain me please why on earth:
- git-buildpackage
- dpkg-buildpackage
- and in fact at the bottom dpkg-source
fuck around in my git repository, applying patches, just for builing
Ahh, problem isolated: The proper option to use is
--with-openssl-dir=no - so the convenient DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=openssl
will be preserved :-)
Sure?!
# ./configure --with-openssl-dir=no|grep -i ssl
checking for SSL... /usr (enabling RANDNUM and DHX support)
SSL:
CFLAGS =
Norbert Preining prein...@logic.at writes:
On Mo, 28 Dez 2009, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
Mind that git-buildpackage with normal 1.0 source format does NOT pollute
the git repository, so my expectation is that the 3.0 format does the
same, but alas, it doesn't.
Well, if you have the usual
Raphael Geissert geiss...@debian.org writes:
Raphael Geissert wrote:
Russ Allbery wrote:
[...]
For Git-maintained packages like openafs, that would mean
ignoring all the patch management features and letting it generate a
single combined Debian diff analogous to the existing 1.0 diff from
Russ Allbery r...@debian.org writes:
Felipe Sateler fsate...@gmail.com writes:
On Mon, 2009-12-28 at 22:40 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
I think the way forward for Git-maintained packages is the 3.0 (git)
format, but changed to ship a bundle. That way, relevant branches and
history can be
Norbert Preining prein...@logic.at writes:
On Mo, 28 Dez 2009, Iustin Pop wrote:
cleaner - no longer quilt-specific stuff in debian/rules, and a nice
debian.tar.gz instead of a diff.
Beh, I disagree, the 3 different lines in debian/rules are NOT bad
by itself, it shows that *something* is
Am Mittwoch, den 20.01.2010, 15:42 +0100 schrieb Andreas Tille:
Yes, but you can not assume that ftpmaster is an R *user*
Of course I can't but I do not see why ftpmasters should care how to
extract data from these files. The only relevant information to them is
that the data is the preferred
Pasi Kärkkäinen pa...@iki.fi writes:
On Mon, Jan 04, 2010 at 11:02:51AM +1100, Brian May wrote:
On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 06:12:28PM +0200, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
If we're talking about Linux 2.6.32 support for pv_ops dom0 here, then
that's
in progress, see:
Magnus Holmgren holmg...@debian.org writes:
On måndagen den 7 december 2009, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
On Sun, Dec 06, 2009 at 01:17:30PM +0100, Patrick Schoenfeld wrote:
But how do you fix a package to do what its supposed to do,
when it isn't installed anymore?
You don't need to. When the
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 05:10:55PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
Pasi Kärkkäinen pa...@iki.fi writes:
On Mon, Jan 04, 2010 at 11:02:51AM +1100, Brian May wrote:
On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 06:12:28PM +0200, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
If we're talking about Linux 2.6.32 support for pv_ops
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 05:13:21PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
Unless ucf is removed but not purged, right?
Shouldn't the question rather be:
When will ucf be merged into dpkg?
I find is stupid that ucf handled configuration files will not be
tracked by dpkg and that dpkg and
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Steffen Möller steffen_moel...@gmx.de
* Package name: nordugrid-arc
Version : 0.8.1
* URL : http://www.nordugrid.org/
* License : Apache
Programming Lang: C++
Description : middleware for shared storage and
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 04:15:26PM +0100, Fabian Greffrath wrote:
Ahh, problem isolated: The proper option to use is
--with-openssl-dir=no - so the convenient DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=openssl
will be preserved :-)
Sure?!
Nope. I went offline (train ride to Copenhagen an hour from my home)
where I
Patrick Schoenfeld schoenf...@debian.org writes:
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 04:04:07PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
Uh, since as long as I've been part of the project. I think this is at
least the third time that I recall the same topic coming up on -devel.
Wow. How often a topic comes up on
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 06:16:27PM +0200, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 05:10:55PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
Pasi Kärkkäinen pa...@iki.fi writes:
On Mon, Jan 04, 2010 at 11:02:51AM +1100, Brian May wrote:
On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 06:12:28PM +0200, Pasi
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010, Jean-Christophe Dubacq wrote:
Charles Plessy a écrit :
Is tabular data in a binary format that can be read, written,
modified and exported using free software acceptable for Debian,
or shall we contact the upstream author to check if he used an
intermediate format (be
On Mon, Jan 04, 2010 at 02:45:27PM +, Mark Brown wrote:
As discussed by a number of people in bug #562757 it appears that
nfs-kernel-server has kicked off a transition to the use of rpcbind - at
least, nfs-kernel-server has switched to needing rpcbind and we can't
have two things claiming
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 06:49:07PM +, Mark Brown wrote:
On Mon, Jan 04, 2010 at 02:45:27PM +, Mark Brown wrote:
As discussed by a number of people in bug #562757 it appears that
nfs-kernel-server has kicked off a transition to the use of rpcbind -
at least, nfs-kernel-server has switched
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 10:30:13AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
That does not mean that we shouldn't fix such bugs if they arise
(obviously we should) but having priority on it is a different thing.
Then I'm not sure that you're disagreeing with me?
Oh I don't. However in one of your first
Patrick Schoenfeld schoenf...@debian.org writes:
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 10:30:13AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
That does not mean that we shouldn't fix such bugs if they arise
(obviously we should) but having priority on it is a different thing.
Then I'm not sure that you're disagreeing with
I need pthsem, so I only want a working version with all features I
need.
All I care about is that there is an agreement between the Debian
community and the upstream developer. Martin is very active in
supporting his environment and in that respect I am to inclined to
support his decision.
On Mi, Jan 20, 2010 at 21:04:30 (CET), Marc Leeman wrote:
An alternative for Martin is probably to include/hide pthsem in bcusdk;
but that would not be as clean IMHO (ffmpeg anyone?)
I don't get the connection with ffmpeg. please elaborate.
--
Gruesse/greetings,
Reinhard Tartler, KeyID
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 21:04:30 +0100, Marc Leeman wrote:
I need pthsem, so I only want a working version with all features I
need.
All I care about is that there is an agreement between the Debian
community and the upstream developer. Martin is very active in
supporting his environment
Manuel Prinz man...@debian.org writes:
Speaking as an R user, Rdata is definitely the preferred form of
modification. You load it into R, edit it, save it, done.
So +1 for preferred form of modification.
Specifically, “preferred form of the work for making modifications to
it”.
I'm glad
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 10:06:21PM +0100, Julien Cristau wrote:
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 21:04:30 +0100, Marc Leeman wrote:
I need pthsem, so I only want a working version with all features I
need.
All I care about is that there is an agreement between the Debian
community and the
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 03:40:22PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
Lucas Nussbaum lu...@lucas-nussbaum.net writes:
On 19/01/10 at 14:36 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
Well, I would argue that proper package builds in dirty environments is
something we want in Debian anyway, and while this isn't
Julien Cristau, le Wed 20 Jan 2010 22:06:21 +0100, a écrit :
I'm not sure we care if its homepage is at GNU or elsewhere.
Agreed, thanks free software :)
Samuel
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Martin Koegler, le Wed 20 Jan 2010 23:04:07 +0100, a écrit :
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 10:06:21PM +0100, Julien Cristau wrote:
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 21:04:30 +0100, Marc Leeman wrote:
I need pthsem, so I only want a working version with all features I
need.
All I care about is
Hi Goswin,
thanks for the very interesing and profound answer.
On Mi, 20 Jan 2010, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
Bug #557623: Quilt should remember where it first got patches and
series from
Good idea.
$ quilt new
... bummer, there is now ./patches in my git repository
Same as above.
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