rock around hwclock.sh

2011-04-13 Thread Andrew O. Shadoura
Hello, I'd like to hear opinions on hwclock.sh operation. Few thoughts of my own: i) It's still quite common that battery in the RTC becomes flat. In this case, hwclock.sh silently sets system clock to 1970 (or whatever else nonsense), efficiently turning file access and modify times into a

Re: rock around hwclock.sh

2011-04-13 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Andrew O. Shadoura bugzi...@tut.by writes: iii) Also, it would be good to hear opinions about negative consequences of saving the system time to the RTC on frequent basis. My openmoko does a suspend/resume cycle every 10 minutes. RTC time can only be set at one second granularity. If I write to

Python 3 as default? (Re: Python2.6 as default)

2011-04-13 Thread Adrian von Bidder
Hi, On Tuesday 12 April 2011 01.22:55 Scott Kitterman wrote: The notion that /usr/bin/python pointing to any python3 version in the near term is anything other than crazy talk is, well, crazy. Agreed. However, it would be interesting to track which of the bg/major python packages/frameworks

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-04-13 Thread Raphael Hertzog
(Moving to -devel, since -release is not a discussion list, and keeping lots of context because of this) Hi, On Sun, 10 Apr 2011, sean finney wrote: I think the quality of our releases has always been stellar, but the freezes cause quite a bit of slowdown and even demotivation for those who

Re: Python 3 as default? (Re: Python2.6 as default)

2011-04-13 Thread Sandro Tosi
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 08:46, Adrian von Bidder avbid...@fortytwo.ch wrote: Agreed. However, it would be interesting to track which of the bg/major python packages/frameworks are not available on Python3 yet, if only as a reference for the next time somebody proposes to have /usr/bin/python be

Re: Python 3 as default? (Re: Python2.6 as default)

2011-04-13 Thread Piotr Ożarowski
[Adrian von Bidder, 2011-04-13] Agreed. However, it would be interesting to track which of the bg/major python packages/frameworks are not available on Python3 yet, if only as a reference for the next time somebody proposes to have /usr/bin/python be a Python 3.

Re: rock around hwclock.sh

2011-04-13 Thread Philip Hands
On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 09:05:23 +0300, Andrew O. Shadoura bugzi...@tut.by wrote: Hello, I'd like to hear opinions on hwclock.sh operation. Few thoughts of my own: i) It's still quite common that battery in the RTC becomes flat. In this case, hwclock.sh silently sets system clock to 1970

Bug#615153: exec: 58: /usr: Permission denied

2011-04-13 Thread Jonathan Nieder
# Probably not an X bug, but one has to start somewhere. # Please cc me on replies. reassign 615153 xserver-xorg quit Hi again, Debian_bug_report wrote[1]: Sorry for the delay, Now it's my turn to apologize. Our analysts have been very carefully looking over the information you sent and ---

Processed: Re: exec: 58: /usr: Permission denied

2011-04-13 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: # Probably not an X bug, but one has to start somewhere. # Please cc me on replies. reassign 615153 xserver-xorg Bug #615153 [general] exec: 58: /usr: Permission denied Bug reassigned from package 'general' to 'xserver-xorg'. quit Stopping

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-04-13 Thread sean finney
Hi Raphaël, On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 08:50:04AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: On Sun, 10 Apr 2011, sean finney wrote: My suggestion/feedback would be that we find a way where releases aren't managed so linearly, and can be be handled in a more parallel manner without such disruptive

Bug#622593: ITP: libeval-closure-perl -- Perl module to safely and cleanly create closures via string eval

2011-04-13 Thread Alessandro Ghedini
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Alessandro Ghedini al3x...@gmail.com * Package name: libeval-closure-perl Version : 0.03 Upstream Author : Jesse Luehrs d...@tozt.net * URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/Eval-Closure/ * License : GPL-1+ or Artistic

Re: network-manager as default? No!

2011-04-13 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
On 04/04/2011 12:56 PM, Jon Dowland wrote: On Sun, Apr 03, 2011 at 07:22:47PM +0300, Faidon Liambotis wrote: It also can't do VLANs (.1q), bridges, bonds and all possible permutations of the above. I'd speculate that it also wouldn't be able to do things like 1k (or more) interfaces. It

only servers pfff (Was: Re: network-manager as default? No!)

2011-04-13 Thread Martin Bagge / brother
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2011-04-13 10:53, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: Yes. For a distribution which is targeted to support servers properly, yes, definitely. For everything else there is Ubuntu. The universal OS is only running on servers. Check. - -- brother

Re: [Pkg-samba-maint] Default size limits for /run (/var/run) and /run/lock (/var/lock)

2011-04-13 Thread Stig Sandbeck Mathisen
Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net writes: One reason for doing this is to have a single writable mount on the system, which might be useful for tiny systems with minimal resources, where root is r/o. On such a system, it might be useful to pool the limited writable space (which might not be a

Re: [Pkg-samba-maint] Default size limits for /run (/var/run) and /run/lock (/var/lock)

2011-04-13 Thread Roger Leigh
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 10:29:16AM +0200, Stig Sandbeck Mathisen wrote: Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net writes: One reason for doing this is to have a single writable mount on the system, which might be useful for tiny systems with minimal resources, where root is r/o. On such a system,

Re: network-manager as default? No!

2011-04-13 Thread sean finney
On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 11:56:23AM +0100, Jon Dowland wrote: On Sun, Apr 03, 2011 at 07:22:47PM +0300, Faidon Liambotis wrote: It also can't do VLANs (.1q), bridges, bonds and all possible permutations of the above. I'd speculate that it also wouldn't be able to do things like 1k (or

Re: Default size limits for /run (/var/run) and /run/lock (/var/lock)

2011-04-13 Thread Roger Leigh
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 12:38:03PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 08:01:42PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: With the transition to /run and /run/lock as tmpfs filesystems, it would be desirable to provide sensible default size limits. Currently, we default to the tmpfs

Re: network-manager as default? No!

2011-04-13 Thread Stephan Seitz
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 11:11:27AM +0200, sean finney wrote: Did i miss the part where somebody explained what the user benefit of having network-manager on a server was? (apart from then it's the same as your desktop[1], anyway). I don’t even know why NM should be on a normal desktop. My

Re: rock around hwclock.sh

2011-04-13 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Wednesday 13 April 2011 08.05:23 Andrew O. Shadoura wrote: ii) Possibly, `hwclock.sh stop` should be run more frequently than just once on shutdown, because it sometimes happens that the system doesn't shut down correctly. If that happens after some time correction (like DST), system time

Re: only servers pfff (Was: Re: network-manager as default? No!)

2011-04-13 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
On 04/13/2011 10:56 AM, Martin Bagge / brother wrote: On 2011-04-13 10:53, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: Yes. For a distribution which is targeted to support servers properly, yes, definitely. For everything else there is Ubuntu. The universal OS is only running on servers. Check. Get your facts

Re: Default size limits for /run (/var/run) and /run/lock (/var/lock)

2011-04-13 Thread Thomas Hood
First of all, thanks to Roger Leigh for leading this effort. Roger Leigh wrote: Proposal: Switch the default for all tmpfs mounts from 50% to 20%; it's still very large, but you have to mount many more to be able to break your system. He should have said ... but you have to mount *and fill*

Re: Default size limits for /run (/var/run) and /run/lock (/var/lock)

2011-04-13 Thread Philip Hands
On Tue, 12 Apr 2011 13:51:09 +0200, Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org wrote: Am 12.04.2011 13:38, schrieb Roger Leigh: this for /var/lock (/run/lock), which can be mounted as a separate tmpfs on /run/lock if RAMLOCK is set in /etc/defaults/rcS. We could also do the same for /dev/shm

Re: Default size limits for /run (/var/run) and /run/lock (/var/lock)

2011-04-13 Thread Bastian Blank
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 09:30:53PM +0200, Jan Hauke Rahm wrote: On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 08:21:25PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: I know little about vservers. How do they currently deal with /dev/shm and /lib/init/rw? Interesting question. Actually, in my setup, I don't see /dev/shm at all and

Re: Default size limits for /run (/var/run) and /run/lock (/var/lock)

2011-04-13 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 10:51:50AM +0100, Philip Hands wrote: On Tue, 12 Apr 2011 13:51:09 +0200, Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org wrote: I don't think symlinking /tmp to /run would be a good idea, as one could fill up /tmp (accidentaly) pretty quick. If we want to make / ro, then a

Re: network-manager as default? No!

2011-04-13 Thread Felipe Sateler
On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 10:53:13 +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: On 04/04/2011 12:56 PM, Jon Dowland wrote: On Sun, Apr 03, 2011 at 07:22:47PM +0300, Faidon Liambotis wrote: It also can't do VLANs (.1q), bridges, bonds and all possible permutations of the above. I'd speculate that it also wouldn't be

Re: network-manager as default? No!

2011-04-13 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 11:26:06AM +, Felipe Sateler wrote: On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 10:53:13 +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: Yes. For a distribution which is targeted to support servers properly, yes, definitely. For everything else there is Ubuntu. Surely a person managing a server can do

Re: Default size limits for /run (/var/run) and /run/lock (/var/lock)

2011-04-13 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Philip Hands p...@hands.com [110413 12:54]: This strikes me as suboptimal, since one could use the disk space allocated to /tmp as extra swap and then allocate a tmpfs of that size to be mounted on /tmp with no effect other than allowing the system to have access to more swap than it would

Re: network-manager as default? No!

2011-04-13 Thread Mehdi Dogguy
On 13/04/2011 10:53, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: On 04/04/2011 12:56 PM, Jon Dowland wrote: On Sun, Apr 03, 2011 at 07:22:47PM +0300, Faidon Liambotis wrote: It also can't do VLANs (.1q), bridges, bonds and all possible permutations of the above. I'd speculate that it also wouldn't be able to do

Re: Question about the version of debian

2011-04-13 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Wed, 2011-04-13 at 13:44 +0800, Asias He wrote: On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 12:32 PM, YANG,Chao yor...@ust.hk wrote: Dear Sir, Recently, I downloaded a 32bit version of Debian from the following website: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.1a/i386/iso-dvd/ However, after

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-04-13 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Wed, 13 Apr 2011, sean finney wrote: I was only 50% at the last DebConf and missed the CUT BoF, but thought I missed the BoF too (I was not at DebConf). reading blogposts etc afterwards that people weren't as focused on the branch out stable approach that I'm talking about, and rather were

Re: network-manager as default? No!

2011-04-13 Thread Jan Hauke Rahm
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 01:42:43PM +0200, Mehdi Dogguy wrote: On 13/04/2011 10:53, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: On 04/04/2011 12:56 PM, Jon Dowland wrote: On Sun, Apr 03, 2011 at 07:22:47PM +0300, Faidon Liambotis wrote: It also can't do VLANs (.1q), bridges, bonds and all possible permutations of

Re: Default size limits for /run (/var/run) and /run/lock (/var/lock)

2011-04-13 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Wed, 2011-04-13 at 13:34 +0200, Bernhard R. Link wrote: * Philip Hands p...@hands.com [110413 12:54]: This strikes me as suboptimal, since one could use the disk space allocated to /tmp as extra swap and then allocate a tmpfs of that size to be mounted on /tmp with no effect other than

Re: Question about the version of debian

2011-04-13 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Wed, 13 Apr 2011, Ben Hutchings wrote: 'dpkg-architecture -qDEB_HOST_ARCH' will show which architecture the rest of the system uses. dpkg --print-architecture is better suited (dpkg-architecture is a dpkg-dev script). Cheers, -- Raphaël Hertzog ◈ Debian Developer Follow my Debian News ▶

Bug#622619: ITP: libjsyntaxpane-java -- Java EditorPane with support for Syntax Highlighting

2011-04-13 Thread Martin Quinson
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Martin Quinson mquin...@debian.org * Package name: libjsyntaxpane-java Version : 0.9.5~svn148 Upstream Author : Ayman Al-Sairafi (ayman.alsair...@gmail.com) * URL : http://code.google.com/p/jsyntaxpane/ * License :

Bug#622620: O: argyll -- Color Management System, calibrator and profiler

2011-04-13 Thread Roland Mas
Package: wnpp Severity: normal I think it's time for me to stop pretending I have enough time/energy/interest to properly maintain Argyll. I'm therefore regretfully orphaning the package. Prospective adopters: most of the difficulty I've had in maintaining this package comes from my switch of

Request for testing: /run and initscripts

2011-04-13 Thread Roger Leigh
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 01:23:04PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 10:51:50AM +0100, Philip Hands wrote: On Tue, 12 Apr 2011 13:51:09 +0200, Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org wrote: I don't think symlinking /tmp to /run would be a good idea, as one could fill up /tmp

Re: network-manager as default? No!

2011-04-13 Thread Philip Hands
On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 11:26:06 + (UTC), Felipe Sateler fsate...@debian.org wrote: On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 10:53:13 +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: On 04/04/2011 12:56 PM, Jon Dowland wrote: On Sun, Apr 03, 2011 at 07:22:47PM +0300, Faidon Liambotis wrote: It also can't do VLANs (.1q), bridges,

Re: Question about the version of debian

2011-04-13 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Wed, 2011-04-13 at 20:47 +0800, YANG,Chao wrote: dpkg --print-architecture shows i386. However, uname -a shows x86-64 what does this mean? It means Asias He was right. And this is a perfectly valid configuration (though it confuses some third-party installers). But I think this is a

Re: Question about the version of debian

2011-04-13 Thread YANG,Chao
dpkg --print-architecture shows i386. However, uname -a shows x86-64 what does this mean? Best, On 2011-04-13 14:27 +0200,Raphael Hertzog wrote: On Wed, 13 Apr 2011, Ben Hutchings wrote: 'dpkg-architecture -qDEB_HOST_ARCH' will show which architecture the rest of the system uses. dpkg

Re: Request for testing: /run and initscripts

2011-04-13 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 01:49:15PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: I have now implemented this (though it's not the default). I would very much appreciate it if anyone could take the time to install the new initscripts and test it out.

Re: Python2.6 as default

2011-04-13 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Apr 11, 2011, at 07:22 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: Hopefully it will gain additional sanity before approval (the authors did improve it based on comments I sent them it could still be better). The notion that /usr/bin/python pointing to any python3 version in the near term is anything other

Re: Request for testing: /run and initscripts

2011-04-13 Thread Roger Leigh
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 03:20:38PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 01:49:15PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: I have now implemented this (though it's not the default). I would very much appreciate it if anyone could take the time to install the new initscripts and test it

Re: Request for testing: /run and initscripts

2011-04-13 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 02:24:30PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 03:20:38PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 01:49:15PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: I have now implemented this (though it's not the default). I would very much appreciate it if anyone

Re: Python2.6 as default

2011-04-13 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, April 13, 2011 09:22:44 AM Barry Warsaw wrote: On Apr 11, 2011, at 07:22 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: Hopefully it will gain additional sanity before approval (the authors did improve it based on comments I sent them it could still be better). The notion that /usr/bin/python

Re: Request for testing: /run and initscripts

2011-04-13 Thread Bastian Blank
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 02:24:30PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 03:20:38PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: find: `var/run': No such file or directory fakerunlevel: open(/var/run/utmp): No such file or directory When is this, in postinst or init scripts? We have logic in

Re: Python2.6 as default

2011-04-13 Thread Michael Gilbert
Scott Kitterman wrote: On Wednesday, April 13, 2011 09:22:44 AM Barry Warsaw wrote: On Apr 11, 2011, at 07:22 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: Hopefully it will gain additional sanity before approval (the authors did improve it based on comments I sent them it could still be better). The

Bug#622625: ITP: haskell-blaze-builder -- an abstraction of buffered output of byte streams

2011-04-13 Thread Marco Túlio Gontijo e Silva
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Marco Túlio Gontijo e Silva mar...@debian.org * Package name: haskell-blaze-builder Version : 0.2.1.4 Upstream Author : Simon Meier iridc...@gmail.com * URL : http://hackage.haskell.org/package/blaze-builder * License :

Re: Default size limits for /run (/var/run) and /run/lock (/var/lock)

2011-04-13 Thread Philip Hands
On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 13:34:13 +0200, Bernhard R. Link brl...@debian.org wrote: * Philip Hands p...@hands.com [110413 12:54]: This strikes me as suboptimal, since one could use the disk space allocated to /tmp as extra swap and then allocate a tmpfs of that size to be mounted on /tmp with no

Re: Python2.6 as default

2011-04-13 Thread Piotr Ożarowski
[Michael Gilbert, 2011-04-13] Can't that be solved in the release notes when that happens? Something like: python3 is now the default /usr/bin/python, so if you have existing python2 scripts you will need to make sure to use /usr/bin/python2 instead (or convert them to

Re: Python2.6 as default

2011-04-13 Thread Michael Gilbert
Piotr Ożarowski wrote: [Michael Gilbert, 2011-04-13] Can't that be solved in the release notes when that happens? Something like: python3 is now the default /usr/bin/python, so if you have existing python2 scripts you will need to make sure to use /usr/bin/python2

Re: Default size limits for /run (/var/run) and /run/lock (/var/lock)

2011-04-13 Thread David Goodenough
On Wednesday 13 April 2011, Ben Hutchings wrote: On Wed, 2011-04-13 at 13:34 +0200, Bernhard R. Link wrote: * Philip Hands p...@hands.com [110413 12:54]: This strikes me as suboptimal, since one could use the disk space allocated to /tmp as extra swap and then allocate a tmpfs of that

Re: Default size limits for /run (/var/run) and /run/lock (/var/lock)

2011-04-13 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2011-04-13, David Goodenough david.goodeno...@btconnect.com wrote: I am surprised at this. I have several boxes which are small single board computers with solid state disks (MIDE or CF), so as I did not need swap space (the running set is fixed and the memory requirement was within the

Re: Default size limits for /run (/var/run) and /run/lock (/var/lock)

2011-04-13 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Philip Hands p...@hands.com [110413 15:51]: Are you suggesting that a system that has enough RAM to not need swap will become slower if you enable swap but don't use it? If you don't use it it will hopefully make not much big difference. The difference is if it gets used. If some program goes

Re: Request for testing: /run and initscripts

2011-04-13 Thread Roger Leigh
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 03:35:24PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 02:24:30PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 03:20:38PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 01:49:15PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: I have now implemented this (though it's

Re: Python2.6 as default

2011-04-13 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Apr 13, 2011, at 10:00 AM, Michael Gilbert wrote: I think it makes more sense to have a release or two where users can fall back on python2. Well there needs to be at least one where /usr/bin/python becomes python3 alerting users to the change and giving them the python2 fallback, just so

Re: Default size limits for /run (/var/run) and /run/lock (/var/lock)

2011-04-13 Thread Thomas Hood
I just realized that I misunderstood Roger Leigh's posting and so my previous message was mostly superfluous. My apologies. 1. His statement but you have to mount many more to be able to break your system was correct (and can be made more explicit by adding ... by filling them all). 2. His

Re: Default size limits for /run (/var/run) and /run/lock (/var/lock)

2011-04-13 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 03:17:24PM +, Philipp Kern wrote: On 2011-04-13, David Goodenough david.goodeno...@btconnect.com wrote: I am surprised at this. I have several boxes which are small single board computers with solid state disks (MIDE or CF), so as I did not need swap space (the

Re: Default size limits for /run (/var/run) and /run/lock (/var/lock)

2011-04-13 Thread David Goodenough
On Wednesday 13 April 2011, Ben Hutchings wrote: On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 03:17:24PM +, Philipp Kern wrote: On 2011-04-13, David Goodenough david.goodeno...@btconnect.com wrote: I am surprised at this. I have several boxes which are small single board computers with solid state disks

Re: Default size limits for /run (/var/run) and /run/lock (/var/lock)

2011-04-13 Thread Roger Leigh
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 05:21:18PM +0200, Thomas Hood wrote: I just realized that I misunderstood Roger Leigh's posting and so my previous message was mostly superfluous. My apologies. 1. His statement but you have to mount many more to be able to break your system was correct (and can be

/usr/bin/python2 again

2011-04-13 Thread Piotr Ożarowski
[Barry Warsaw, 2011-04-13] On Apr 13, 2011, at 10:00 AM, Michael Gilbert wrote: I think it makes more sense to have a release or two where users can fall back on python2. Well there needs to be at least one where /usr/bin/python becomes python3 alerting users to the change and giving them

i386 ISO also installing kernel for AMD64 (Squeeze)

2011-04-13 Thread André Barone Rodrigues
Dear sirs, I think there's something not entirelly clear to me and perhaps to some other people, because I couldn't find any solution to my problem. I have downloaded an i386 ISO for Squeeze (6.0.1a) and used the same media to perform installation on 2 different machines. On the first one I got

Re: /usr/bin/python2 again

2011-04-13 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 07:19:59PM +0200, Piotr Ożarowski wrote: what's the point? /usr/bin/python2 will not work either when we'll drop support for Python 2.X. Do you think we'll ever drop supported for 2.X? It seems quite likely to me that it will live on for a long, long time. -- Jon

Re: network-manager as default? No!

2011-04-13 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 01:39:38PM +0100, Philip Hands wrote: Surely a person managing a server can do aptitude install ifupdown network-manager-? You appear to want to inflict extra work on large swathes of our users. If that is the case, I'd like to see some sort of justification for

Re: /usr/bin/python2 again

2011-04-13 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2011-04-13, Piotr Ożarowski pi...@debian.org wrote: [Barry Warsaw, 2011-04-13] On Apr 13, 2011, at 10:00 AM, Michael Gilbert wrote: I think it makes more sense to have a release or two where users can fall back on python2. Well there needs to be at least one where /usr/bin/python becomes

Re: /usr/bin/python2 again

2011-04-13 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, April 13, 2011 03:06:17 PM Philipp Kern wrote: On 2011-04-13, Piotr Ożarowski pi...@debian.org wrote: [Barry Warsaw, 2011-04-13] On Apr 13, 2011, at 10:00 AM, Michael Gilbert wrote: I think it makes more sense to have a release or two where users can fall back on python2.

Re: Bug#621833: System users: removing them

2011-04-13 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On ti, 2011-04-12 at 21:31 +0200, sean finney wrote: Hi Lars, On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 06:41:10PM +0100, Lars Wirzenius wrote: But shouldn't we say they _must_ lock package-specific system users and groups when the package is removed ? I think that's a good idea. Steve Langasek in

Re: network-manager as default? No!

2011-04-13 Thread Bjørn Mork
Stephan Seitz stse+deb...@fsing.rootsland.net writes: The only thing that I miss from ifupdown (and I configured bonds, bridges and vlans) is a good IPv6 support. I can’t separately activate or deactivate IPv4 or IPv6 parts of an interface. I have seen several requests for this feature, but I

Re: i386 ISO also installing kernel for AMD64 (Squeeze)

2011-04-13 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 02:38:03PM -0300, André Barone Rodrigues wrote: Dear sirs, I think there's something not entirelly clear to me and perhaps to some other people, because I couldn't find any solution to my problem. I have downloaded an i386 ISO for Squeeze (6.0.1a) and used the same

Re: Request for testing: /run and initscripts

2011-04-13 Thread Roger Leigh
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 03:20:38PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 01:49:15PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: I have now implemented this (though it's not the default). I would very much appreciate it if anyone could take the time to install the new initscripts and test it

Re: Bug#621833: System users: removing them

2011-04-13 Thread Leo 'costela' Antunes
On 12/04/11 22:43, Scott Kitterman wrote: Also, we need to provide a way for sysadmin to know they can safely remove a stale system user. If we could do that, we could just remove them automatically and not bother the sysadmin. Not necessarily. We can't be sure there aren't any files lying

Re: network-manager as default? No!

2011-04-13 Thread Ben Finney
Jon Dowland j...@debian.org writes: Does the following assumption hold? Desktop users favour fewer prompts at install time and more sane default choices. Server users want fine control over the nuances of installation, but harness additional technologies/options to help with installations

Re: i386 ISO also installing kernel for AMD64 (Squeeze)

2011-04-13 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
André Barone Rodrigues andre.baron...@gmail.com writes: Dear sirs, I think there's something not entirelly clear to me and perhaps to some other people, because I couldn't find any solution to my problem. I have downloaded an i386 ISO for Squeeze (6.0.1a) and used the same media to perform

Bug#622700: ITP: fastx-toolkit -- FASTQ/A short nucleotide reads pre-processing tools

2011-04-13 Thread Charles Plessy
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org Package name: fastx-toolkit Version : 0.0.13 Upstream Author : Assaf Gordon gor...@cshl.edu URL : http://hannonlab.cshl.edu/fastx_toolkit/ License : AGPL-3+, MIT Programming Lang:

Re: Default size limits for /run (/var/run) and /run/lock (/var/lock)

2011-04-13 Thread Karl Goetz
On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 10:32:42 +0100 Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net wrote: On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 12:38:03PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: Following the discussion yesterday, I'd like to propose doing something like the example below. It's possible to size a tmpfs as a percentage of core

Re: Bug#617867: ITP: morse-coach -- Koch method Morse code trainer for GTK+ and Pulseaudio

2011-04-13 Thread Karl Goetz
On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 17:44:42 -0600 Kirk Wolff k...@stpaulinternet.net wrote: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Kirk Wolff k...@stpaulinternet.net * Package name: morse-coach Version : 0.0.1 Upstream Author : Kirk Wolff k...@stpaulinternet.net * URL :

Re: Bug#617867: ITP: morse-coach -- Koch method Morse code trainer for GTK+ and Pulseaudio

2011-04-13 Thread Kirk Wolff
karl, I can see someone has added pulseaudio to the old morse package, however it is not compatible with the approach I'm taking with this program. I have many plans for features, some of which are currently being implemented. I'll consider adding some of the command-line functionality from

Accepted haskell-text 0.11.0.6-1 (source all amd64)

2011-04-13 Thread Joachim Breitner
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2011-04-13 Thread Joachim Breitner
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2011-04-13 Thread Joachim Breitner
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2011-04-13 Thread Nicholas Bamber
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2011-04-13 Thread Luis Uribe
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2011-04-13 Thread Carl Chenet
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2011-04-13 Thread Laurent Bigonville
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Accepted silo-llnl 4.8-3 (source i386)

2011-04-13 Thread Alastair McKinstry
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Accepted gnome-backgrounds 3.0.0-1 (source all)

2011-04-13 Thread Frederic Peters
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Accepted pmw 4.22-3 (source all amd64)

2011-04-13 Thread Wouter Verhelst
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Accepted uzbl 0.0.0~git.20110412-1 (source amd64)

2011-04-13 Thread Luca Bruno
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Accepted empathy 2.30.3-2 (source all amd64)

2011-04-13 Thread Laurent Bigonville
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Accepted freecad 0.11.3729.dfsg-1 (source all amd64)

2011-04-13 Thread Adam C. Powell, IV
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Accepted radare2 0.7-3 (source amd64)

2011-04-13 Thread Sebastian Reichel
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2011-04-13 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel
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Accepted fetchmail 6.3.19-1 (source all amd64)

2011-04-13 Thread Nico Golde
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Accepted man-db 2.6.0.2-1 (source i386)

2011-04-13 Thread Colin Watson
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Accepted r-base 2.13.0-1 (source i386 all)

2011-04-13 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel
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2011-04-13 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel
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Accepted emerillon 0.1.2-1 (source amd64)

2011-04-13 Thread Laurent Bigonville
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2011-04-13 Thread Ritesh Raj Sarraf
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Accepted joblib 0.5.1-1 (source all)

2011-04-13 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
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Accepted ejabberd 2.1.6-2 (source i386)

2011-04-13 Thread Konstantin Khomoutov
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Accepted imagej 1.45e-1 (source all)

2011-04-13 Thread Andreas Tille
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