Hi,
it seems that multiarch issues do not gather attention on debian-mentors
and thus please forgive me to bring this topic here on debian-devel
list.
In the announcement
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2011/06/msg2.html
it was stated:
Multiarch handling of header files
Andreas Tille andr...@an3as.eu writes:
Because neither Luis Ibanez nor me (as his mentor in the MoM project[1])
can make some sense out of this hint we would like to ask for more
precise advise what to do or what to read to get a clue about this.
I'm quoting a short extract from Luis's mail
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org
Package name: vegan
Version : 2.0-2
Upstream Author : Jari Oksanen, F. Guillaume Blanchet, Roeland Kindt, Pierre
Legendre, Peter R. Minchin, R. B. O'Hara, Gavin L. Simpson, Peter Solymos, M.
Henry H.
On 2012-02-14 07:43, Russ Allbery wrote:
4. Lintian overrides. I believe these should be qualified with the
architecture on any multiarch: same package so that the overrides can
vary by architecture, since this is a semi-frequent use case for
Lintian.
* Lintian should recognize
On 2012-02-14 07:43, Russ Allbery wrote:
[...]
* Lintian should recognize arch-qualified override files, and multiarch:
same packages must arch-qualify their override files. debhelper
assistance is desired for this.
[...]
I have no problem with Lintian accepting arch-qualified
* Peter Samuelson pe...@p12n.org [120214 06:32]:
Package: libpam-fprint
Multi-Arch: same-as libpam0g
Package: gimp-texturize
Multi-Arch: same-as libgimp2.0
Package: libsasl2-modules
Multi-Arch: same-as libsasl2-2
Would this also work with nss plugins? That might be
a bit more complicated
Serafeim Zanikolas writes (Re: [DEP9] call for testing of reconf-inetd
(update-inetd replacement)):
Any local sysadmin changes must be done in inetd.conf, as always.
The choice of /usr/share/ follows from two of the requirements I
have set from the beginning for DEP9 [0]:
- the standard
Ben Hutchings writes (Re: severity for bugs in ignoring TMP/TMPDIR?):
A similar change has been implemented
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Roadmap/KernelHardening#Symlink_Protection
and will probably be included in wheezy.
Interesting. That approach protects the buggy programs, but
On Tue, 14 Feb 2012, Philipp Kern wrote:
On 2012-02-14, Raphael Hertzog hert...@debian.org wrote:
Somehow my suggestion is then to extend dpkg-parsechangelog to provide
the required logic to split the changelog in its bin-nmu part and its
usual content.
dpkg-parsechangelog
On Sat, 2012-02-11 at 03:28:33 +0200, Riku Voipio wrote:
* Because shared files packaging simpler for maintainers.
Package profiliation and duplication of arch-independent data are merely
effecty that happen when packagers workaround the lack of shared identical
files.
That way of thinking
On Mon, 2012-02-13 at 22:43:04 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
If this is comprehensive, then I propose the following path forward, which
is a mix of the various solutions that have been discussed:
* dpkg re-adds the refcounting implementation for multiarch, but along
with a Policy requirement
Hello Ana,
Can you drop me from the soc-coordination list admin/moderator list?
I cannot find the list admin password anymore.
I've been rather passive the last years with respect to GSoC.
Mostly helping a bit with voting and reviewing the applications.
I'll probably help with that again, but
Russ Allbery writes (Multiarch file overlap summary and proposal (was:
Summary: dpkg shared / reference counted files and version match)):
There's been a lot of discussion of this, but it seems to have been fairly
inconclusive. We need to decide what we're doing, if anything, for wheezy
Aron Xu happyaron...@gmail.com:
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 00:09, Ian Jackson
ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk wrote:
Goswin von Brederlow writes (Re: Multi-arch all-architecture plugins):
As you said these are usualy plugins that nothing depends on. So this
wouldn't help much. Also if there
Peter Samuelson writes (Re: Multi-arch all-architecture plugins):
[Ian Jackson]
Where should this fact be declared ? Is it a property of a package
that it makes sense to install it only on all configured architectures
or none ? Or is it a property of the dependency from the depending
Le lundi 13 février 2012 à 22:43 -0800, Russ Allbery a écrit :
There's been a lot of discussion of this, but it seems to have been fairly
inconclusive. We need to decide what we're doing, if anything, for wheezy
fairly soon, so I think we need to try to drive this discussion to some
concrete
* Raphael Hertzog hert...@debian.org, 2012-02-14, 14:17:
dpkg-buildpackage --binary-version ver --binary-changelog 'foo' could
create debian/changelog.build with the given changelog version and
changelog entry.
dpkg-parsechangelog could be taught to read debian/changelog.build
before
Guillem Jover writes (Re: Multiarch file overlap summary and proposal (was:
Summary: dpkg shared / reference counted files and version match)):
On Mon, 2012-02-13 at 22:43:04 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
* The binNMU process is changed to add the binNMU changelog entry to an
arch-qualified
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 22:10, Ian Jackson
ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk wrote:
Aron Xu happyaron...@gmail.com:
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 00:09, Ian Jackson
ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk wrote:
Goswin von Brederlow writes (Re: Multi-arch all-architecture plugins):
As you said these are
On 2012-02-14 15:28 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
Guillem Jover writes:
This still does not solve the other issues I listed, namely binNMUs
have to be performed in lock-step, more complicated transitions /
upgrades.
I don't think I see where this is coming from. Are you talking about
Hi,
On Tue, 14 Feb 2012, Guillem Jover wrote:
* All packages that want to be multiarch: same have to move all generated
documentation into a separate package unless the maintainer has very
carefully checked that the generated documentation will be byte-for-byte
identical even across
Hi,
On Tue, 14 Feb 2012, Sven Joachim wrote:
Guillem Jover writes:
This still does not solve the other issues I listed, namely binNMUs
have to be performed in lock-step, more complicated transitions /
upgrades.
I don't think I see where this is coming from. Are you talking about
* Russ Allbery r...@debian.org [120214 01:48]:
If this is comprehensive, then I propose the following path forward, which
is a mix of the various solutions that have been discussed:
I thought Goswin's suggestion in [1] of having dpkg use implicit
diversions has merit and deserves further
On Tue, 14 Feb 2012, Jakub Wilk wrote:
Are we sure than no existing package uses debian/changelog.build for
their own purposes?
No, but with debian/changelog.dpkg-build we should be safe.
Are we sure that all existing packages (and helpers) that parse
debian/changelog use
On Tue, 14 Feb 2012, Marvin Renich wrote:
I thought Goswin's suggestion in [1] of having dpkg use implicit
diversions has merit and deserves further scrutiny.
I don't. diversions support 2 packages, the diverted one and the
diverting one. Multi-Arch: same must support co-installation of
any
On Tue, 2012-02-14 at 14:28:58 +, Ian Jackson wrote:
Guillem Jover writes (Re: Multiarch file overlap summary and proposal (was:
Summary: dpkg shared / reference counted files and version match)):
On Mon, 2012-02-13 at 22:43:04 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
* The binNMU process is changed
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Michael Fladischer fladischermich...@fladi.at
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* Package name: django-floppyforms
Version : 0.4.7
Upstream Author : Bruno Renié br...@renie.fr
* URL :
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 12:34:41AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
and goes on an on, repeating the error about posix_types_32.h.
---
It would help if you could confirm that this is actually an issue caused
by multiarch migration
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 09:29:30AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 12:34:41AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
and goes on an on, repeating the error about posix_types_32.h.
---
It would help if you could
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 10:29:23PM +, Uoti Urpala wrote:
Kurt Roeckx kurt at roeckx.be writes:
So my understanding is that you want to build libraries with -fPIE
instead of -fPIC, and that that creates a different ABI?
What affects the ABI is compiling the library in a way that does
Niels Thykier ni...@thykier.net writes:
On 2012-02-14 07:43, Russ Allbery wrote:
[...]
* Lintian should recognize arch-qualified override files, and multiarch:
same packages must arch-qualify their override files. debhelper
assistance is desired for this.
[...]
I have no problem
On Tue, 14 Feb 2012, Charles Plessy wrote:
Package name: vegan
New R packages shouldn't be added with a source name that does not
match the single binary package that they produce. Please consider
using r-cran-vegan for both the source and binary package names.
Don Armstrong
--
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Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
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Kurt Roeckx kurt at roeckx.be writes:
What affects the ABI is compiling the library in a way that does not support
copy relocations. This can be done with visibility attributes or linker
It was always my understanding that protected wasn't useful,
because it's even more expensive.
Sounds
Hi Ben,
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 06:19:40PM +, Ben Hutchings wrote:
Where we've run across similar problems with posix_types.h in the recent
past, it has indeed been due to the use of gcc -I-.
Wow, that is a really insane option. However it is documented as
deprecated.
Right.
This
[Ian Jackson]
If you install on i386 your 2 binaries and libc6, you /do/ need the
i386 libfakeroot. Otherwise if you say fakeroot your binary it
won't work, no matter that /usr/bin/fakeroot is amd64.
libfakeroot is something of a special case, indeed. As a hack to my
proposal, perhaps it
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 12:32:16PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
Hi Ben,
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 06:19:40PM +, Ben Hutchings wrote:
Where we've run across similar problems with posix_types.h in the recent
past, it has indeed been due to the use of gcc -I-.
Wow, that is a really
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 08:17:09PM +, Uoti Urpala wrote:
Kurt Roeckx kurt at roeckx.be writes:
What affects the ABI is compiling the library in a way that does not
support
copy relocations. This can be done with visibility attributes or linker
It was always my understanding that
On 2012-02-14, Kurt Roeckx k...@roeckx.be wrote:
Hi Application Manager :)
(My response here includes some questions from my upstream who I showed
this mail)
It was always my understanding that protected wasn't useful,
because it's even more expensive.
Can you come with a bit pointers or
Le Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 10:35:57AM -0800, Don Armstrong a écrit :
On Tue, 14 Feb 2012, Charles Plessy wrote:
Package name: vegan
New R packages shouldn't be added with a source name that does not
match the single binary package that they produce. Please consider
using r-cran-vegan
Kurt Roeckx kurt at roeckx.be writes:
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 08:17:09PM +, Uoti Urpala wrote:
Kurt Roeckx kurt at roeckx.be writes:
It was always my understanding that protected wasn't useful,
because it's even more expensive.
Sounds like your understanding was wrong. Protected
On Wed, 15 Feb 2012, Charles Plessy wrote:
Le Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 10:35:57AM -0800, Don Armstrong a écrit :
On Tue, 14 Feb 2012, Charles Plessy wrote:
Package name: vegan
New R packages shouldn't be added with a source name that does not
match the single binary package that
On Tue, 2012-02-14 at 14:28:58 +, Ian Jackson wrote:
I think the refcounting approach is very worthwhile because it
eliminates unnecessary work (by human maintainers) in many simple
cases.
Aside from what I said on my other reply, I just wanted to note that
this seems to be a recurring
Le Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 04:23:40PM -0800, Don Armstrong a écrit :
http://lists.debian.org/debian-perl/2008/08/msg00055.html
http://lists.debian.org/debian-policy/2008/01/msg00019.html
#505309
among others.
For sure there are discussions, but what we need is a summarized conclusion.
(The
Guillem Jover wrote:
Aside from what I said on my other reply, I just wanted to note that
this seems to be a recurring point of tension in the project when it
comes to archive wide source package changes, where supposed short
term convenience (with its usually long term harmful effects)
Joey Hess jo...@debian.org writes:
Anyway, my worry about the refcounting approach (or perhaps M-A: same in
general) is not the details of the implementation in dpkg, but the added
mental complexity of dpkg now being able to have multiple distinct
packages installed under the same name. I had
Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk writes:
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 04:30:47PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk writes:
On Sat, 2012-02-11 at 17:33 +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
Bastian Blank wa...@debian.org writes:
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at
On Tue, 14 Feb 2012, Guillem Jover wrote:
I've never proposed to arch-qualify the filename for the stuff under
/usr/share/doc/pkgname/, I've proposed to arch-qualify the pkgname in
the path (/usr/share/doc/pkgname:arch/), but only for M-A:same packages,
which are the only ones needing the
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