On Tue, 21 May 2013, Ondřej Surý wrote:
I did:
$ grep tiff debian/control
B-D: libtiff5-alt-dev | libtiff-dev,
Note that sbuild only considers the first alternative, so libtiff-dev
would be ignored for bin-nmu on official buildds.
Cheers,
--
Raphaël Hertzog ◈ Debian Developer
Get the
On 22/05/13 at 05:50 +0300, Uoti Urpala wrote:
Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
I went through the various init systems threads again during the last
few days. My understanding of the consensus so far is the following:
- Both systemd and upstart bring many useful features, and are a
clear
Hi Guillem,
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 04:09:33AM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote:
On Wed, 2013-05-22 at 01:47:42 +0100, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote:
On 22 May 2013 01:16, Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org wrote:
Am 22.05.2013 02:00, schrieb Dmitrijs Ledkovs:
On 21 May 2013 21:53, Lucas Nussbaum
Hi,
In the past few days and weeks there have been many advocacies, for new
applicants and for DM-DD applicants.
Please take advantage of the NM web interface where possible, as it makes
the process much more streamlined for us. If the applicant doesn't have a
record there yet, please wait
Hi Norbert,
Le mercredi, 22 mai 2013 02.20:22, Norbert Preining a écrit :
On Di, 21 Mai 2013, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
resolved *correctly*, with*out* introducing further security
issues and RC bugs.
CAN YOU ALL STOP BITCHING AROUND ABOUT A NON-EXISTING ISSUE?!?!?!?!?!
Could you please
On 2013-05-22 03:53, Michael Gilbert wrote:
I think the first step would be get get pages like [0] to include
version numbers of the packages tested (and preferably links to test
logs).
This should be put into a wishlist bug against piuparts-master ...
If that were in place, then a patch to
On 05/21/2013 10:53 PM, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
- Neither systemd nor upstart are likely to be ported to kfreebsd soon,
as they both rely on many Linux-specific features and interfaces.
What about launchd? Wouldn't it be possible to port that to
Debian/kFreeBSD? It's designed to run in a BSD
Jonathan Wiltshire (Front Desk nm at debian.org writes:
3. Choose something appropriate from the links at the top right of the
page. Advocate for DD is normally what you're after.
Can’t see that. (I tried a half dozen people just to confirm…)
bye,
//mirabilos
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Additionally, there was requests for packaging for xssstatus, which is
(by upstream) a part of suckless-tools too, but (as for other
suckless-tools) have separate tarball. For example, if xsstools will
be included in main package, then «tools for minimalist window
Hi Charles,
On 2013-05-22 06:05, Charles Plessy wrote:
it is not fully related to your original question, but do you think that
piuparts
could support running Autopkgtests as well ?
Theoretically yes, but I haven't looked into DEP8 so far ... reading ...
Quoting from the autopkgtest
JFTR I already realized that and the new libgd2 upload has only
libtiff-dev as B-D and D.
Ondrej
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 8:07 AM, Raphael Hertzog hert...@debian.org wrote:
On Tue, 21 May 2013, Ondřej Surý wrote:
I did:
$ grep tiff debian/control
B-D: libtiff5-alt-dev | libtiff-dev,
Note
Norbert Preining preining at logic.at writes:
That to prevent is what package relationships are for!
And? I did lots of test, but forgot that texlive-lang will be in
the NEW queue, thus full upgrades will not work.
Please anyone else, correct me if I’m wrong, but I see the following
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Thorsten Glaser t...@debian.org wrote:
That to prevent is what package relationships are for!
And? I did lots of test, but forgot that texlive-lang will be in
the NEW queue, thus full upgrades will not work.
Please anyone else, correct me if I’m wrong, but
John Paul Adrian Glaubitz glaubitz at physik.fu-berlin.de writes:
On 05/21/2013 10:53 PM, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
- Neither systemd nor upstart are likely to be ported to kfreebsd soon,
as they both rely on many Linux-specific features and interfaces.
And this is one more reason to
Hi,
On Wed, 22 May 2013, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
Teχ consists of packages “foo” and “bar”. Norbert says he uploaded both
but “bar” sits in the NEW queue, which is why the upgraded “foo” will
not work.
To me, this looks as if “foo” needs a versioned Depends on “bar” *and*
“bar” possibly
Uoti Urpala wrote:
A related point which I think is very important is the effect of
Debian's decision on the larger community. Having Linux distributions
permanently split in systemd and upstart camps would have major costs
for the overall Linux community.
Actually, in the EU this is called
On 22 May 2013 03:09, Guillem Jover guil...@debian.org wrote:
Hi!
On Wed, 2013-05-22 at 01:47:42 +0100, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote:
On 22 May 2013 01:16, Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org wrote:
Am 22.05.2013 02:00, schrieb Dmitrijs Ledkovs:
On 21 May 2013 21:53, Lucas Nussbaum lu...@debian.org
On 2013-05-19 09:17:31 +0200, Jean-Christophe Dubacq wrote:
Le 16/05/2013 08:43, Vincent Lefevre a écrit :
On 2013-05-15 20:27:09 +0200, Jean-Christophe Dubacq wrote:
No. Your server comes unconfigured, you do configure it while the other
is still working, and then you stop the service on
On 22 May 2013 03:32, Paul Tagliamonte paul...@ubuntu.com wrote:
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 01:16:29AM +0100, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote:
I have signed Canonical's and Python Software Foundation's contributor
agreements.
But I have no intention to assign copyright to FSF at the moment,
given it's
Thorsten Glaser t...@debian.org (22/05/2013):
Jonathan Wiltshire (Front Desk nm at debian.org writes:
3. Choose something appropriate from the links at the top right of the
page. Advocate for DD is normally what you're after.
Can’t see that. (I tried a half dozen people just to
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Thibaut Paumard thib...@debian.org
Hi,
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Cyril Brulebois kibi at debian.org writes:
Thorsten Glaser tg at debian.org (22/05/2013):
Jonathan Wiltshire (Front Desk nm at debian.org writes:
3. Choose something appropriate from the links at the top right of the
page. Advocate for DD is normally what you're after.
Can’t
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 10:13:23AM +0100, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote:
Some produce more open source software than others, and all of these
will be ranked differently by each person differently, am I still yet
to be screwed by Canonical's projects. Please correct me if I am
wrong, but none of
Hi,
On Mittwoch, 22. Mai 2013, Charles Plessy wrote:
it is not fully related to your original question, but do you think that
piuparts could support running Autopkgtests as well ?
I think we need another setup for this. Autopkgtests may destroy their
environment (and might need more than a
Hello,
On Wed, 22 May 2013 00:11:20 +0400
Dmitry Papchenkoff dmitry.papchenk...@gmail.com wrote:
10 packages, excluding metapackage.
This work was originally done for test-packages for mentors.debian.net
as an effort to update and clean up suckless-tools.
But after posting packages to
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On 22-05-13 13:06, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 10:13:23AM +0100, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote:
Some produce more open source software than others, and all of these
will be ranked differently by each person differently, am I still yet
to be screwed by Canonical's projects.
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Ondřej Surý ond...@debian.org
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Version : 1.6.1
Upstream Author : Seafile Ltd. freepl...@gmail.com
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Programming Lang: C
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Hi,
On Mittwoch, 22. Mai 2013, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote:
FSF on the other hand:
[...]
You forgot their failure with this gnu unix system they were trying to
build! This also didnt take off - what a bunch of loosers!
cheers,
Holger
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* Holger Levsen hol...@layer-acht.org, 2013-05-22, 13:26:
it is not fully related to your original question, but do you think
that piuparts could support running Autopkgtests as well ?
I think we need another setup for this. Autopkgtests may destroy their
environment (and might need more than a
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 01:35:54PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
No, that is *exactly* the point: yes, companies may have different
objectives, but that doesn't mean they have to use different ways to get
to those objectives.
A contract is binding, whether one party to the contract is a
On Mittwoch, 22. Mai 2013, Jakub Wilk wrote:
FWIW, most of the packages don't need anything more than a chroot.
Interesting, thanks.
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If I were you, I would be very worried about the risk that the decision
will be taken not by looking at which one is the best, but by looking at
which one is de-facto supported in Debian. In that area, systemd is very
late, since:
- AFAIK nobody has started the effort to
Le mercredi 22 mai 2013 à 08:16 +0200, Lucas Nussbaum a écrit :
- there are 300+ upstart job files ready to be imported from Ubuntu
When you compare the time it takes to write an upstart job file or a
systemd unit file, to the time it takes to proprely test it, I don’t
think this argument makes
On 22/05/13 at 08:22 +, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
As Debian, we have two different problems:
1. We need to decide which init systems we want to support, and how.
2. We need to decide which init system should be the default.
We will have a GR about that.
(I assume that by about that, you
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Andrew Shadura bugzi...@tut.by wrote:
I strongly disagree with this proposed split. The package is already
too small for that. This split just adds unnecessary complexity and
bloats the package manager lists, and also confuses users. Please don't.
+1.
Dmitry,
On May 21, Lucas Nussbaum lu...@debian.org wrote:
We don't need to select a single init system at this point, and it would
As the maintainer of a package which is strongly tied to the init
system, I disagree.
Then, something I failed to find in the discussion was a discussion of
how sysvinit
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 07:17:34AM +0400, Dmitry Papchenkoff wrote:
Maybe there should not be a separate package for each tool, but at
least st and dmenu should be packaged separately.
Why?
Moreover, there IS a package named stterm in unstable which ships st
separately (I've found it then
On 05/22/2013 04:50 AM, Uoti Urpala wrote:
Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
I went through the various init systems threads again during the last
few days. My understanding of the consensus so far is the following:
- Both systemd and upstart bring many useful features, and are a
clear improvement over
Hi!
On Wed, 2013-05-22 at 09:15:03 +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
On 05/21/2013 10:53 PM, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
- Neither systemd nor upstart are likely to be ported to kfreebsd soon,
as they both rely on many Linux-specific features and interfaces.
What about launchd? Wouldn't
On Wed, 2013-05-22 at 13:37 +0200, Holger Levsen wrote:
Hi,
On Mittwoch, 22. Mai 2013, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote:
FSF on the other hand:
[...]
You forgot their failure with this gnu unix system they were trying to
build! This also didnt take off - what a bunch of loosers!
It is taking
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On 14:31 Wed 22 May , Jonathan Dowland wrote:
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 07:17:34AM +0400, Dmitry Papchenkoff wrote:
Maybe there should not be a separate package for each tool, but at
least st and dmenu should be packaged separately.
Why?
Moreover, there IS a package named stterm in
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 09:15:03AM +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
On 05/21/2013 10:53 PM, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
- Neither systemd nor upstart are likely to be ported to kfreebsd soon,
as they both rely on many Linux-specific features and interfaces.
What about launchd? Wouldn't
On 22/05/13 at 14:45 +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le mercredi 22 mai 2013 à 08:16 +0200, Lucas Nussbaum a écrit :
- there are 300+ upstart job files ready to be imported from Ubuntu
When you compare the time it takes to write an upstart job file or a
systemd unit file, to the time it
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 03:39:00PM +0200, Bernd Schubert wrote:
On 05/22/2013 04:50 AM, Uoti Urpala wrote:
Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
I went through the various init systems threads again during the last
few days. My understanding of the consensus so far is the following:
- Both systemd and
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 02:45:54PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le mercredi 22 mai 2013 à 08:16 +0200, Lucas Nussbaum a écrit :
- there are 300+ upstart job files ready to be imported from Ubuntu
When you compare the time it takes to write an upstart job file or a
systemd unit file, to
Am 22.05.2013 18:12 schrieb Lucas Nussbaum lu...@debian.org:
On 22/05/13 at 14:45 +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le mercredi 22 mai 2013 à 08:16 +0200, Lucas Nussbaum a écrit :
- there are 300+ upstart job files ready to be imported from Ubuntu
When you compare the time it takes to
Le mercredi 22 mai 2013 à 09:41 -0700, Steve Langasek a écrit :
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 02:45:54PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
When you compare the time it takes to write an upstart job file or a
systemd unit file, to the time it takes to proprely test it, I don’t
think this argument
Russ Allbery r...@debian.org wrote:
Jay Berkenbilt q...@debian.org writes:
Ondřej Surý ond...@sury.org wrote:
This results in:
E: libgd-tools: binary-or-shlib-defines-rpath usr/bin/annotate
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libtiff5-alt
Yes, I'm afraid that's unavoidable. This issue is
* Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org [2013-05-22 15:03]:
Le mercredi 22 mai 2013 à 08:16 +0200, Lucas Nussbaum a écrit :
- there are 300+ upstart job files ready to be imported from Ubuntu
When you compare the time it takes to write an upstart job file or a
systemd unit file, to the time it
On 05/22/2013 05:51 PM, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 09:15:03AM +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
What about launchd? Wouldn't it be possible to port that to
Debian/kFreeBSD? It's designed to run in a BSD userland, after all.
That doesn't seem like it would help at all
Le mercredi 22 mai 2013 à 19:50 +0200, Martin Wuertele a écrit :
Actually it sounds like you propose to stop developing and take
everything from Redhat, Lennart, Gnome because it's there and they say
so.
Damn! I have been exposed.
I admit to everything. I am merely an artificial creature,
On 05/22/2013 06:41 PM, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 02:45:54PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le mercredi 22 mai 2013 à 08:16 +0200, Lucas Nussbaum a écrit :
- there are 300+ upstart job files ready to be imported from Ubuntu
When you compare the time it takes to write an
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 04:01:19PM +0200, Svante Signell wrote:
On Wed, 2013-05-22 at 13:37 +0200, Holger Levsen wrote:
Hi,
On Mittwoch, 22. Mai 2013, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote:
FSF on the other hand:
[...]
You forgot their failure with this gnu unix system they were trying to
On 05/22/2013 07:50 PM, Martin Wuertele wrote:
Actually it sounds like you propose to stop developing and take
everything from Redhat, Lennart, Gnome because it's there and they say
so.
And another one. Why is it that almost anyone who isn't favor of
systemd is directly going off insulting
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Martin Wuertele m...@debian.org writes:
* Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org [2013-05-22 15:03]:
When you compare the time it takes to write an upstart job file or a
systemd unit file, to the time it takes to proprely test it, I don’t
think this argument makes any sense. If the only things we
* John Paul Adrian Glaubitz glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de [2013-05-22 20:57]:
On 05/22/2013 07:50 PM, Martin Wuertele wrote:
Actually it sounds like you propose to stop developing and take
everything from Redhat, Lennart, Gnome because it's there and they say
so.
And another one. Why is it
* Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org [2013-05-22 20:45]:
Le mercredi 22 mai 2013 à 19:50 +0200, Martin Wuertele a écrit :
Seems to me that luckily not everybody agrees with that approach (CTTE
#681834, CTTE #688772)...
Fortunately the CTTE failed to expose me before you did, since they
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 07:48:27AM +0100, Jonathan Wiltshire (Front Desk) wrote:
Hi,
In the past few days and weeks there have been many advocacies, for new
applicants and for DM-DD applicants.
Please take advantage of the NM web interface where possible, as it makes
the process much more
Hello,
As per policy 10.9 - Permissions and owners[0], opensmtpd requires
some system users for running non-root-privileged processes. I propose
to user the following dynamic accounts; opensmtpd, opensmtpq, opensmtpf.
Also I will be co-maintaining this package with Ryan Kavanagh, who has
Martin Wuertele m...@debian.org writes:
Seems like you haven't realised yet: only if a maintainer makes
controversal decisions and several others disagree such a case comes
before the CTTE.
Having decisions appealed to the CTTE is not a punishment. It just
indicates that a decision is
On Mittwoch, 22. Mai 2013, Ben Hutchings wrote:
I think you're missing Holger's point: FSF has had great success with
the GNU project. This is independent of the Hurd kernel.
Yet I'm happy to finally see a Debian GNU/Hurd release. Wow! Whohooo!
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On 05/22/2013 06:19 PM, Steve Langasek wrote:
I'm skeptical of the value of such a design in place of just using
an initramfs, but the 'friendly-recovery' package in Ubuntu gives
an example of to do this.
live-config-upstart needs the same to be useful. personally i have no
experience with
Hi,
On 22/05/13 at 15:11 +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
On May 21, Lucas Nussbaum lu...@debian.org wrote:
We don't need to select a single init system at this point, and it would
As the maintainer of a package which is strongly tied to the init
system, I disagree.
Then, something I failed
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 10:53:43PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
There was a GSoC project in 2012 about generating sysvinit scripts from
systemd .service files. Was there some communication about its outcome?
I had a look at this idea and its result. From what I saw, I do not
believe a
Le mercredi 22 mai 2013 à 21:27 +0200, Martin Wuertele a écrit :
Seems like you haven't realised yet: only if a maintainer makes
controversal decisions and several others disagree such a case comes
before the CTTE.
Having choices ending up twice within relatively short time before the
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 09:13:18PM +0100, Daniel Walrond wrote:
As per policy 10.9 - Permissions and owners[0], opensmtpd requires
some system users for running non-root-privileged processes. I propose
to user the following dynamic accounts; opensmtpd, opensmtpq, opensmtpf.
Thanks for CCing
Daniel Walrond deb...@djw.org.uk writes:
As per policy 10.9 - Permissions and owners[0], opensmtpd requires
some system users for running non-root-privileged processes. I propose
to user the following dynamic accounts; opensmtpd, opensmtpq, opensmtpf.
Also I will be co-maintaining this
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Russ Allbery r...@debian.org wrote:
Martin Wuertele m...@debian.org writes:
Seems like you haven't realised yet: only if a maintainer makes
controversal decisions and several others disagree such a case comes
before the CTTE.
Having decisions appealed to the
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 02:16:34PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
We currently have no good policy about how to name system users, but
despite that I personally would recommend against using simple
alphanumeric usernames like those. (They are longer than eight
characters, which avoids some local
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 07:45:32PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le mercredi 22 mai 2013 à 09:41 -0700, Steve Langasek a écrit :
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 02:45:54PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
When you compare the time it takes to write an upstart job file or a
systemd unit file, to
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 10:39:06PM +0200, Helmut Grohne wrote:
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 10:53:43PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
There was a GSoC project in 2012 about generating sysvinit scripts from
systemd .service files. Was there some communication about its outcome?
I had a look at
Matthias wrote:
Am 22.05.2013 18:12 schrieb Lucas Nussbaum lu...@debian.org:
Note that if it's there, and Ubuntu uses upstart, it has probably been
tested. I was not suggesting that we blindly import upstart job files
from Ubuntu, but a basis to start from is better than no basis at all.
(I
That reminds me. Is there a way to get blhc to tell me *which* line in a
build log makes it think that compiler flags are hidden?
I agree that would be really useful
https://buildd.debian.org/~brlink/packages/r/remctl.html is reporting that
the compiler flags are hidden. So far as I know,
Nick Andrik nick.and...@gmail.com writes:
Usually what I do is to copy the whole page and pass it through the
blhc on my local system.
In your case I get this message:
NONVERBOSE BUILD: compiling remctl.c
Your build logs include:
make[4]: Entering directory
On 2013-05-22 15:39:00 +0200, Bernd Schubert wrote:
On 05/22/2013 04:50 AM, Uoti Urpala wrote:
Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
I went through the various init systems threads again during the last
few days. My understanding of the consensus so far is the following:
- Both systemd and upstart bring
* As you may know, systemd is developed by a large amount of
contributors.
…as you may know, upstart is not only older than systemd, but is also used on a
large amount of live systems, probably many times more the number of systems
that
have systemd installed.*⁾
Best regards,
– Jubal
On 23/05/2013 02:35, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
Sure; obviously the right thing to do is to instead take stuff from GNOME
and freedesktop.org without regard to integration with our existing system,
because if Lennart says it's right it must be so.
Honestly, these personal accusations
I really like how this paragraph:
On 23/05/2013 02:41, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
[...]
And another one. Why is it that almost anyone who isn't favor of
systemd is directly going off insulting their developers or any
of the organizations behind of it?
and this paragraph:
Blame
On 22 May 2013 22:02, Chow Loong Jin hyper...@debian.org wrote:
[...] Bazaar (which seems to have been abandoned by
upstream with 2000 open bugs [1]) [...].
On the other hand, it would be nice if you keep your FUD to the minimum.
Bazaar
doesn't look abandoned[1], and 2000 open bugs is not
On 05/22/2013 04:53 AM, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
- Neither systemd nor upstart are likely to be ported to kfreebsd soon,
as they both rely on many Linux-specific features and interfaces.
Though it should be easy enough to port OpenRC to kFreeBSD and Hurd,
once it completes its support for the
Steve McIntyre st...@einval.com writes:
Matthias wrote:
Please also keep in mind that many upstream projects ship systemd service
files. Therefore, most of the systemd work is already done too.
Most? Really? Do you have stats for that?
Given the fact that sysvinit scripts are supported
On 05/23/2013 01:45 AM, Josselin Mouette wrote:
I understand it will be a pain for Ubuntu if Debian picks a different
init system. I don’t think this is relevant for the discussion, though.
It might be very relevant for many of us that our package works on
*both* Debian and Ubuntu (and other
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 11:31 PM, Jeremy Bicha jbi...@ubuntu.com wrote:
On 22 May 2013 22:02, Chow Loong Jin hyper...@debian.org wrote:
[...] Bazaar (which seems to have been abandoned by
upstream with 2000 open bugs [1]) [...].
On the other hand, it would be nice if you keep your FUD to the
On 05/23/2013 02:35 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
Honestly, these personal accusations against Lennart are getting old and
boring. Don't you really have any other good argument to bring up
against systemd other than you dislike *one* of the systemd developers?*
[...]
* As you may
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 12:37:35AM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
Matthias wrote:
Am 22.05.2013 18:12 schrieb Lucas Nussbaum lu...@debian.org:
Note that if it's there, and Ubuntu uses upstart, it has probably been
tested. I was not suggesting that we blindly import upstart job files
from
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 12:47:46AM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 10:39:06PM +0200, Helmut Grohne wrote:
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 10:53:43PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
There was a GSoC project in 2012 about generating sysvinit scripts from
systemd .service files. Was
Hello,
On Wed, 22 May 2013 23:05:01 +0200
Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org wrote:
Subject: Bwah I will tell my daddy^W^Wthe CTTE^W^Wa GR
Couldn't you please finally stop behaving like a five years old?
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