Quoting Matthias Urlichs (sm...@smurf.noris.de):
Hi,
Salvo Tomaselli:
You can restart pulse. No big problem except temporary interrupt of audio,
You mean a temporary presence of audio that will immediately go away as
soon
as pulse is running again right?
Don't be daft. My
Excerpts from Noah Meyerhans's message of 2014-02-14 14:47:49 -0800:
On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 07:40:20PM +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote:
I have to admit that I did *not* expect this. At all.
http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1316
Quite the opposite - some people felt it would
On 02/15/2014 09:22 AM, Christian PERRIER wrote:
So, before doing so: will that be helpful?
I think most people simply don't configure PulseAudio correctly. They
have the assumption that sound cards are still simple devices with
one input jack and one output jack and any application using it
(admitedly, d-d is not the right place.I make the promise I won't
steal the list for too long but, hey, this thread has already been
useful to at least one person, so let's try to make it even mor euseful)
Quoting John Paul Adrian Glaubitz (glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de):
On 02/15/2014 09:22
On 11 Feb 2014, at 16:40, Matthias Urlichs sm...@smurf.noris.de wrote:
(a) please tell us which feature is only available with upstart.
Please don't.
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On 2014-02-14 16:42, Paul Tagliamonte wrote:
On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 04:39:25PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
Are buildd people happy with humans sending their logs this way?
Well, I am, but it's probably not my call.
Which keyring does it use to validate? Can DMs send logs? Does it
validate
On Sat, 15 Feb 2014, Philipp Kern wrote:
That's why I was careful to publish the address nowhere. We do some
Unfortunately, that cat is out of the bag, now. Whether it will get spammed
or attacked, I don't know.
However, it is not like we ever could trust the logs anyway for any security
On Fri, 14 Feb 2014, Noah Meyerhans wrote:
I'm not sure I understand why. Debian and Ubuntu have been using
different init systems for some time now, with Ubuntu on upstart and
Debian on sysvinit. Why should our change of defaults really matter to
them, when they weren't using our default
- John Paul Adrian Glaubitz glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de wrote:
I think most people simply don't configure PulseAudio correctly. They
have the assumption that sound cards are still simple devices with
one input jack and one output jack and any application using it just
has to find the
* Philipp Kern pk...@debian.org, 2014-02-15, 15:19:
Are buildd people happy with humans sending their logs this way?
Well, I am, but it's probably not my call.
Which keyring does it use to validate? Can DMs send logs? Does it
validate at all, or can some script kiddies use it as a pastebin
]] Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
Well, it is difficult to second-guess Shuttelworth, but the tight coupling
is likely to be part of it. This was a non-issue with sysvinit (for Debian)
and upstart (for Ubuntu), but with systemd we will have to get involved
upstream.
Debian and Ubuntu
On 2014-02-15 15:34, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
On Sat, 15 Feb 2014, Philipp Kern wrote:
That's why I was careful to publish the address nowhere. We do some
Unfortunately, that cat is out of the bag, now. Whether it will get
spammed
or attacked, I don't know.
However, it is not
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On Sat, 15 Feb 2014, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
]] Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
Well, it is difficult to second-guess Shuttelworth, but the tight coupling
is likely to be part of it. This was a non-issue with sysvinit (for Debian)
and upstart (for Ubuntu), but with systemd we will have to get
On 14/02/14 14:58, Aigars Mahinovs wrote:
On 14 February 2014 13:42, ChaosEsque Team chaosesquet...@yahoo.com wrote:
The systemd fans ban anyone who say fork-that to systemd.
Not respecting the communication culture of the project is a perfectly
reasonable reason for a ban, regardless of
On Sat, 2014-02-15 at 19:05 +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote:
On 14/02/14 14:58, Aigars Mahinovs wrote:
On 14 February 2014 13:42, ChaosEsque Team chaosesquet...@yahoo.com wrote:
The systemd fans ban anyone who say fork-that to systemd.
Not respecting the communication culture of the project
On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 09:58:05AM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
I think most people simply don't configure PulseAudio correctly. They
have the assumption that sound cards are still simple devices with
one input jack and one output jack and any application using it just
has to find
On 02/15/2014 08:42 PM, Steve Langasek wrote:
If any configuration is required, that is a bug in pulseaudio.
According to that logic, half of the software in Debian is broken.
Adrian
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Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org writes:
On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 09:58:05AM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
I think most people simply don't configure PulseAudio correctly. They
have the assumption that sound cards are still simple devices with one
input jack and one output jack and
On 02/15/2014 08:59 PM, Russ Allbery wrote:
Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org writes:
On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 09:58:05AM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
I think most people simply don't configure PulseAudio correctly. They
have the assumption that sound cards are still simple devices
John Paul Adrian Glaubitz glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de writes:
On 02/15/2014 08:59 PM, Russ Allbery wrote:
I'll agree with that. Audio really should just work unless the
hardware configuration is particularly strange.
So, if your computer has several sounds cards - which is the case when
Hi,
Russ Allbery:
PulseAudio already implements. For example, if it's a common problem to
have the sound going through HDMI audio when people have a sound card,
maybe the default in that case should be to use the sound card rather than
HDMI. Or (and I don't know if that capability is
On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 08:50:18PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
On 02/15/2014 08:42 PM, Steve Langasek wrote:
If any configuration is required, that is a bug in pulseaudio.
According to that logic, half of the software in Debian is broken.
There's a difference between broken and
On 02/15/2014 09:23 PM, Steve Langasek wrote:
Whenever someone says I installed pulseaudio and my sound stopped working,
the right answer is *not* here are some tools that let you reconfigure
pulseaudio. The right answer is let's figure out how to fix pulseaudio so
that this doesn't happen.
In data sabato 15 febbraio 2014 21:52:24, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz ha
scritto:
The problem is that many people who complain about PulseAudio issues
are often prejudiced about it
Well I am now biased against pulseaudio. But let's look at the facts: it comes
by default, in the last 3 desktop
On 02/15/2014 10:12 PM, Salvo Tomaselli wrote:
In data sabato 15 febbraio 2014 21:52:24, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz ha
scritto:
The problem is that many people who complain about PulseAudio issues
are often prejudiced about it
Well I am now biased against pulseaudio. But let's look at the
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Hi,
Salvo Tomaselli:
Reporting bugs doesn't really help very much
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=702884
So please stop blaming it on users.
Umm, what? Looking at that bug, it was obvious from your first email that
you have a basic problem with pulse being installed,
Meh, I don't want to start another flame war. It works fine for me and
for all users (~1000) at my Physics Department where we deploy Debian
I do believe you
Well, Anton couldn't reproduce the bug, so you probably didn't
provide enough information.
I did offer to provide the information
In data sabato 15 febbraio 2014 23:46:24, Matthias Urlichs ha scritto:
Umm, what? Looking at that bug, it was obvious from your first email that
you have a basic problem with pulse being installed, and that you aren't
really interested in helping find the cause of the problem.
Hm.. Please let
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The problem (insane pulseaudio defaults disabling audio output) has not been
debugged yet because there is an easy workaround: deinstall pulseaudio.
There
seems to be little interest in investigating the issue.
Why not document the status quo somewhere (known issues in the release notes
or the
On 15/02/14 19:58, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
So, in order to be able to properly configure PulseAudio, install
pavucontrol or use the sound preferences in GNOME3 or MATE (with
the package mate-media-pulse being installed).
I'd like to take the opportunity to plug the pasystray
On 02/16/2014 12:39 AM, Salvo Tomaselli wrote:
Hm.. Please let me copy and paste some passages from that bug-report:
I said: If you are willing to help, I am willing to cooperate and send you
configuration and details about my system.
To which I got this answer: No, thanks. See my
Well, I'm sorry but I would have probably reacted the same. You were not
reporting a bug, you were just ranting.
I am glad I don't need to use any of your packages then :-)
How about writing a proper bug report without being so hostile?
How would another bug help, when my offer to send further
I'd like to chime in on this whole build thing.
I've been trying to get pbuilder working for a few days now, on a package
from backports. It should be a simple task, but I need a minor modification
in the form of an extra repository for dependencies.
It's been incredibly difficult to get the
On Fri, 2014-02-14 at 18:21 +0100, Jean-Christophe Dubacq wrote:
On 13/02/2014 21:25, Tiago Bortoletto Vaz wrote:
Hi,
On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 12:38:55PM -0600, Matt Zagrabelny wrote:
On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 12:31 PM, Holger Levsen hol...@layer-acht.org
wrote:
Hi,
On Donnerstag,
On 13/02/14 22:10, Dimitri John Ledkov wrote:
On 13 February 2014 16:13, Holger Levsen hol...@layer-acht.org wrote:
Hi,
On Donnerstag, 13. Februar 2014, Ondřej Surý wrote:
this is just a pledge to you all fellow debian developers to update your
build environment before you build a
All of the bugs have been filed. Just under half have been
fixed. Almost all the rest have tested patches. I'm going to start
uploading 10-day delayed NMUs to try to close these out.
If you have an issue with this please speak now or forever hold your
peace.
* Eric Dorland (e...@debian.org)
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