Joey Hess wrote:
Josh Triplett wrote:
However, just as we encourage projects to reuse libraries rather than
copying code around, we *should* encourage projects to use standardized
randomness libraries rather than hardcoding rdrand (or, for that matter,
hardcoding /dev/urandom).
Hi,
Steve Langasek:
Debian should do the right thing, regardless of what upstreams may believe.
I don't trust the hardware random generator. At all. Given what's been
revealed about the NSA so far, being extra paranoid about anything we
cannot verify to be secure is the right thing to do.
Hi Chris,
On Thu, June 12, 2014 01:06, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote:
reopen 749795
stop
A better way would be to add more 'found' versions so the BTS version
tracking shows this bug as affecting stable.
Anyone who believed in getting trusted sources might have been attacked
with forged
On Wed, 11 Jun 2014, Josh Triplett wrote:
Any program desiring high-performance random numbers has a good reason to use
RDRAND or RDSEED: they produce randomness *far* faster than the kernel, and
Yes, because SIGILL is so much faster…
Anyway. Even on systems supporting RDRAND, user space
* Thijs Kinkhorst th...@debian.org, 2014-06-12, 08:58:
On Thu, June 12, 2014 01:06, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote:
reopen 749795
stop
A better way would be to add more 'found' versions so the BTS version
tracking shows this bug as affecting stable.
Indeed. reopen throws away information
On Thu, 12 Jun 2014, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote:
Anyone who believed in getting trusted sources might have been attacked
with forged packages, and even the plain build of such package might
have undermined users' security integrity.
Then I believe Debian itself may be undermined.
The
* Christoph Anton Mitterer cales...@scientia.net, 2014-06-12, 01:06:
- not really secure APT related: apt-listbugs
Not sure whether it uses https for getting bug infos...
$ grep -r /soap.cgi lib/
lib/debian/btssoap.rb:@server=http://#{host}:#{port}/cgi-bin/soap.cgi;
bts(1) and
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Sébastien Villemot sebast...@debian.org
* Package name: openlibm
Version : 0.3
Upstream Author : Julia development team
* URL : https://github.com/JuliaLang/openlibm
* License : BSD, MIT, ISC, public domain
Programming
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Sébastien Villemot sebast...@debian.org
* Package name: openspecfun
Version : 0.3
Upstream Author : Julia development team
* URL : https://github.com/JuliaLang/openspecfun
* License : MIT, public domain
Programming
Sébastien Villemot wrote:
The OpenLibm code derives from the FreeBSD msun implementation, which in turn
[â¦]
OpenLibm builds on Linux, and with little effort, should build on FreeBSD as
well. It builds with both, GCC and clang. Although largely tested on x86, it
also includes experimental
Le jeudi 12 juin 2014 à 11:41 +, Thorsten Glaser a écrit :
Sébastien Villemot wrote:
The OpenLibm code derives from the FreeBSD msun implementation, which in turn
[…]
OpenLibm builds on Linux, and with little effort, should build on FreeBSD as
well. It builds with both, GCC and clang.
Martin Pitt writes (Anyone using autopkgtest-xenlvm? Needs a maintainer or get
dropped):
If anyone is still using this, can you please get in contact with
autopkgtest-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org and tell us the status of
it? Would you like to continue maintaining/testing it?
For the
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Bruno Nova brunomb.n...@gmail.com
* Package name: drmips
Version : 1.2.1
Upstream Author : Bruno Nova brunomb.n...@gmail.com
* URL : https://bitbucket.org/brunonova/drmips/
* License : GPL
Programming Lang: Java
At Thu, 12 Jun 2014 08:36:16 +0200,
Matthias Urlichs wrote:
That being said, sometimes you just need the binary equivalent of an
uncompressible Lorem Ipsum text (dd if=/dev/urandom), but IMHO the kernel
could (and should) provide a device for that.
If you just want to overwrite something with
On Thu, 2014-06-12 at 00:07 -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
AAICS, #749795 talked about bringing this to the security team's
attention, but they never seem to have been CCed.
Thanks for doing that now...
So the security team may not be aware that a security hole in apt was
recently fixed, that
On Thu, 2014-06-12 at 08:58 +0200, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote:
Anyone who believed in getting trusted sources might have been attacked
with forged packages, and even the plain build of such package might
have undermined users' security integrity.
The same is the case with all debian build
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 01:06:28AM +0200, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote:
In my opinion this is really some horrible bug... probably it could have
been very easily found by others, and we have no idea whether it was
exploited already or not.
Probably yes. Someone in the last ~11 years could
Thank you for the additional information you have supplied regarding
this Bug report.
This is an automatically generated reply to let you know your message
has been received.
Your message is being forwarded to the package maintainers and other
interested parties for their attention; they will
On Thu, 2014-06-12 at 16:54 +0200, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote:
On Thu, 2014-06-12 at 08:58 +0200, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote:
If you want to discuss your plans to work on improving APT, you're more
on-topic at de...@lists.debian.org.
I think this goes beyond
just APT (even though APT is
On Thu, 2014-06-12 at 10:30 +0200, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jun 2014, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote:
Anyone who believed in getting trusted sources might have been attacked
with forged packages, and even the plain build of such package might
have undermined users' security
Josh Triplett j...@joshtriplett.org writes:
At least two reasons: because a random number source that doesn't
require kernel privileges should not need to take the performance hit of
going through the kernel,
I'm very dubious that this performance hit is substantial enough that it
should have
On Thu, 2014-06-12 at 10:56 +0200, Jakub Wilk wrote:
$ grep -r /soap.cgi lib/
lib/debian/btssoap.rb:
@server=http://#{host}:#{port}/cgi-bin/soap.cgi;
:-(
bts(1) and reportbug(1) don't use HTTPS either, AFAICS.
:-(
I noticed that http://bugs.debian.org/ started redirecting to the
Hi Chris,
You raise a lot of broad concerns under the header holes in secure apt which
I'm afraid does not much to get us closer to a more secure Debian. Not many
people will object that making Debian even more secure is a bad idea; it just
needs concrete action, not a large list of potential
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 10:19:37AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
I've never seen a convincing argument that the kernel /dev/random is
likely to be *less* secure than the hardware random number generator.
It's either more secure or the same level of security. Given that, it's a
risk analysis, and
]] Christoph Anton Mitterer
Supplying the Debian Root CA to people not using Debian could have been
easily done by a *single* site that uses a cert available in all
browsers... which offers the Debian Root CA for secure and trusted
download.
That's a nice theory. It does not align
+++ Christoph Anton Mitterer [2014-06-12 01:06 +0200]:
- [c]debootstrap
I think they both default now to verify signatures (which is a good
thing)... but IIRC, debootstrap also defaults to not verify anything...
if the keyrings aren't installed - admittedly this is unlikely... but
possible...
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 10:23:58AM +0200, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
On Wed, 11 Jun 2014, Josh Triplett wrote:
device is inferiour to the random devices on OpenBSD/MirBSD, so you
should seed the aRC4 state with additional random bytes:
As far as I know, OpenBSD stopped using (A)RC4 for their
Hi!
On Thu, 2014-06-12 at 19:43:56 +0100, Wookey wrote:
+++ Christoph Anton Mitterer [2014-06-12 01:06 +0200]:
- [c]debootstrap
I think they both default now to verify signatures (which is a good
thing)... but IIRC, debootstrap also defaults to not verify anything...
if the keyrings
Hi!
On Thu, 2014-06-12 at 21:19:06 +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 10:23:58AM +0200, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
On Wed, 11 Jun 2014, Josh Triplett wrote:
device is inferiour to the random devices on OpenBSD/MirBSD, so you
should seed the aRC4 state with additional random
Kurt Roeckx dixit:
As far as I know, OpenBSD stopped using (A)RC4 for their random
number generation for good reason, even though the function is
They stopped, but not for good reason. But you can also use the
new unlicenced algorithm they use, if you really feel like it,
it’s not bad either,
On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 19:43:56 +0100
Wookey woo...@wookware.org wrote:
+++ Christoph Anton Mitterer [2014-06-12 01:06 +0200]:
- [c]debootstrap
I think they both default now to verify signatures (which is a good
thing)... but IIRC, debootstrap also defaults to not verify
anything... if the
Hi Christoph,
On Donnerstag, 12. Juni 2014, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote:
[many things]
both flashplugin-nonfree and torbrowser-launcher are (or will be) in contrib
(and thus not be part of Debian) for exactly those reasons you described. And
both rightfully belong to contrib, even though
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Markus Koschany a...@gambaru.de
* Package name: lgeneral-data
Version : 1.0
Upstream Author : Steve McGuba, Markus Koschany
* URL : https://gitorious.org/lgeneral-data
* License : CC-BY-SA-3.0
Programming Lang: none
The following is a listing of packages for which help has been requested
through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the
last week.
Total number of orphaned packages: 585 (new: 2)
Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 140 (new: 3)
Total number of packages
Theodore Ts'o wrote:
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 10:19:37AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
I've never seen a convincing argument that the kernel /dev/random is
likely to be *less* secure than the hardware random number generator.
It's either more secure or the same level of security. Given that,
Josh Triplett j...@joshtriplett.org writes:
If you don't trust a hardware random number generator, you should not
xor it and another random number source together; after all, if you
believe the numbers coming out of the hardware random source are not
actually random, you might just as easily
Russ Allbery dijo [Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 07:08:40PM -0700]:
If you don't trust a hardware random number generator, you should not
xor it and another random number source together; after all, if you
believe the numbers coming out of the hardware random source are not
actually random, you
Gunnar Wolf gw...@gwolf.org writes:
Russ Allbery dijo [Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 07:08:40PM -0700]:
I would certainly hope that the mixing algorithm of any decent random
number source is better than just xor. And given that, I don't believe
the mathematics supports your assertion here. It's
Ugh, sorry to follow up to myself, but I got a key part of this wrong.
Russ Allbery r...@debian.org writes:
At least based on my understanding of the theory, I think that mixing a
backdoored entropy source with other entropy sources in a random number
generator like Fortuna (which is based on
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