On 2014-08-07
Jordi Mallach jo...@debian.org wrote:
Hi Debian,
It's been around 9 months since tasksel changed (for real) the default
desktop for new installs. At the time of the change, it was mentioned
the issue would be revisited before the freeze, around debconf time.
Well, it's
Hi,
Quoting Matthias Urlichs (2014-08-07 07:54:26)
Also, build profiles are not explained anywhere in Policy (unless that's
been added after 3.9.5), so how would I discover which values are allowed /
make sense?
right. For the purpose of documenting the Package-List its usage for build
Hi,
On Montag, 11. August 2014, Ben Hutchings wrote:
dvswitch was also broken by the removal of support for downscaled
decoding of DV video. I don't know whether that change is specific to
libav or was also made in FFmpeg.
dvswitch is still broken and there is no dvswitch in jessie...
We
Hey all,
tech-ctte bug was opened last July 2013. Bill you had a year to
provide an evidence or arguments why we should not switch
away from jpeg8. You have refused to take part in the discussion,
and yet now after the decision has been made, you come with
backhand arguments with no references...
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libjitsi is an
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On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 03:20:49AM +0100, Anthony F McInerney wrote:
Would the people who are claiming that blank cdr are cheaper than dvdr,
especially in third world countries, please cite sources (shops, price
checkers etc) of the price of say 5 pack or 10 pack, even up to 50pack of
CD's, vs
On Fri, Aug 08, 2014 at 07:30:49PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
* Olav Vitters (o...@vitters.nl) [140808 19:12]:
[ support for init systems bedside systemd ]
There was also a question what should happen if *upstream* removes
support. That's not up to Debian Developers to patch back. Such
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Hi,
pgadmin3 is maintained in the PostgreSQL team, but we aren't using the
package ourselves, so it is getting less love than ideally. We would
be glad if someone would step in for co-maintaining it. [*]
Currently there is a crash to be resolved, likely due to the
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On Mon, 11 Aug, 2014 at 10:15 AM, Thomas Weber twe...@debian.org
wrote:
Not sure why you'd want to go for third world countries, but let's
look
at Germany (Aldi is one of the two biggest discounters here):
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On Mon, Aug 11, 2014, at 12:23, Anthony F McInerney wrote:
Can we now move on to choosing a DE?
Nope, we still don't have enough anecdotic evidence and
trolling yet[1]...
O.
1. Not target at you, just general observation of d-d...
--
Ondřej Surý ond...@sury.org
Knot DNS
at bottom :-
On 8/11/14, Thomas Weber twe...@debian.org wrote:
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 03:20:49AM +0100, Anthony F McInerney wrote:
Would the people who are claiming that blank cdr are cheaper than dvdr,
especially in third world countries, please cite sources (shops, price
checkers etc) of
Bill Allombert writes (Bug#717076: [CTTE #717076] Default libjpeg
implementation in Debian):
I am concerned that the rationale for this decision contains misconceptions
about the IJG JPEG library. Given the public nature of this announcement, I
cannot completly ignore them.
This decision has
On Sat, Aug 09, 2014 at 04:02:45PM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
Well that's:
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=754249
Ah that explains why it tries to get removed.
Instead of trying to mix things up, you probably should be using the
free driver. Until the proprietary one
On 2014-08-09 18:26:19 +0100, Kieran Kunhya wrote:
We also use a fork specifically to work around very wasteful
calculations in libswscale during 10-bit chroma conversion that
involve multiplying a pixel by a 2^n value with 32-bit precision and
then shifting that value down by n back to 16-bit
On Thu, 31 Jul 2014, Don Armstrong wrote:
11. The prospective libjpeg-turbo maintainer should propose an appropriate
Who *is/are* the maintainer(s), anyway?
There are packaging bugs being ignored, and there is an open
bug on a non-release architecture whose suggested workaround
(or possibly
Hello Dariusz and Andrey,
I'd love to see a Profanity package for Debian. Are you, Dariusz, still
working on it?
I also would like to know, why would the OpenSSL requirement make it
impossible to distribute the binary?
Yes,
I am currently working on profanity package. Libstrophe, its
+++ Wookey [2014-08-08 16:05 +0100]:
My expertise here is extremely limited, but some practical experience
shows that mythtv does at least basically work fine with libav.
It turns out that this is completely wrong (as hinted at in later
mails). I was mislead by info in bugreports.
The
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 11:15:15AM +0200, Thomas Weber wrote:
Not sure why you'd want to go for third world countries, but let's look
at Germany (Aldi is one of the two biggest discounters here):
http://www.presseportal.de/pm/112096/2653870/aldi-senkt-preise-fuer-fischprodukte-oel-und-smoothies
Hi,
Lennart Sorensen:
it needs buttons on windows that people expect to see where they expect
to see them
You mean left vs. right side?
Would Debian be willing to make gnome3 have different defaults than
upstream in the interest of actually being useable to new users who are
used to other
Quoting David Weinehall (2014-08-10 22:59:45)
On Fri, Aug 08, 2014 at 11:10:50AM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
The issue here really is how big is it? rather than hos many disks
[of which kind] does it fit onto?.
unable to fit on a single image is not only about use of said
storage
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Quoting Olav Vitters (2014-08-11 11:21:14)
On Fri, Aug 08, 2014 at 11:10:50AM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
Quite a few places in the World have poor and/or expensive internet
access. Larger default desktop will hurt the most in developing
countries: non-techies gets discourages to use
Wookey woo...@wookware.org schrieb:
Unless we were to decide to make an exception re internal libraries
(which seems unlikely in this case given the general discussion on
security load), this package is not going to make it into Debian
anytime soon, which from my POV is very sad - I had
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 06:28:51PM +0200, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote:
I don't know mythtv, but if it's just a digital video recorder, there's
no significant risk ever needing security updates. A local, forked copy
is problematic for a video player since someone may open a malformed video
file,
2014/08/12 1:12 Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk:
[...]
Still you are talking about cost in time. Few I have met in developing
countries were poor measured in time available.
[...]
Developed country (Japan). My wife makes me scrimp on everything, so I
still have megabit/sec download. Fiber or
On Mon, 2014-08-11 at 03:20 +0100, Anthony F McInerney wrote:
[...]
If people have old CD only machines i would not like to attempt to get
kernel 3.16 +drivers +userland working on that. I've been in that
situation plenty of times, where woody or potato are better simply
because the drivers
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 05:34:04PM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote:
You mean left vs. right side?
Or even showing them at all (certainly last time I bothered to look at
gnome 3 it seemed to think buttons on windows were mostly to be avoided).
People who are so afraid of new stuff to learn that
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 06:00:05PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
I do: I see a reason to netinst a 0.629xCD size desktop install rather
than a 0.829xCD size desktop when bandwidth is costly.
Yes, but if you netinst you can *pick* your desktop, it's not like you
have to pick the default. Do a
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 01:35:28PM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
All I personally expect from a window manager is:
Be able to launch programs (ideally using alt+F2)
Available in GNOME 3.
Be able to resize the window using the edge of the window
Available in GNOME 3.
Have a
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 07:42:41PM +0200, David Weinehall wrote:
Available in GNOME 3.
Available in GNOME 3.
Not enabled by default (if I remember correctly), but possible to enable
using gnome-tweak-tool.
I shouldn't have to know that. And I am pretty sure when gnome3 appeared
in sid,
How do you measure memory? Free?
Could you quite possibly post the output of free and whatever else you
measure with? (the full output)
For reference against jessie, i'm installing an up to date jessie right
now...
Thanks
Anthony (bofh80)
On Lu, 11 aug 14, 19:38:47, David Weinehall wrote:
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 06:00:05PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
I do: I see a reason to netinst a 0.629xCD size desktop install rather
than a 0.829xCD size desktop when bandwidth is costly.
Yes, but if you netinst you can *pick* your
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Olav Vitters wrote:
My response specifically deals with this. Yes, nice if Debian
Developers
could keep the response. However, there is nothing in there about must
not be dropped without good reason. If upstream removes support, so be
it. Then it is very nice if the support is patched back in,
Hello,
Apologies for not being able to resist answering even if it is getting
off-topic.
On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 05:43:33PM -0400, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 12:25:33AM -0700, Andrew Kelley wrote:
High quality libraries must iterate on their API. Especially for a library
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 06:12:02PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
Quoting Olav Vitters (2014-08-11 11:21:14)
On Fri, Aug 08, 2014 at 11:10:50AM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
Quite a few places in the World have poor and/or expensive internet
access. Larger default desktop will hurt the
On 08/11/2014 07:38 PM, David Weinehall wrote:
Summary:
* If you download you can pick the smallest option possible;
thus the default desktop is irrelevant -- people with plenty
of bandwidth will probably go with the default, but if you know
that your connectivity is expensive you'll
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 07:41:00PM +0100, Mirosław Baran wrote:
Olav, would you mind to clarify in what capacity are you on this list?
(Debian user? Debian maintainer? Debian developer? GNOME upstream
developer?
Systemd developer? Interested independent party? Something else
altogether?)
On 08/11/2014 09:45 PM, Johannes Schaffrath wrote:
On 08/11/2014 07:38 PM, David Weinehall wrote:
Summary:
* If you download you can pick the smallest option possible;
thus the default desktop is irrelevant -- people with plenty
of bandwidth will probably go with the default, but if you
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 01:47:53PM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 07:42:41PM +0200, David Weinehall wrote:
Available in GNOME 3.
Available in GNOME 3.
Not enabled by default (if I remember correctly), but possible to enable
using gnome-tweak-tool.
I
Am 11.08.2014 22:09, schrieb David Weinehall:
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 01:47:53PM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 07:42:41PM +0200, David Weinehall wrote:
Available in GNOME 3.
Available in GNOME 3.
Not enabled by default (if I remember correctly), but possible to
On Mon, 11 Aug 2014 20:40:28 +0200
Reimar Döffinger reimar.doeffin...@gmx.de wrote:
Hello,
Apologies for not being able to resist answering even if it is getting
off-topic.
On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 05:43:33PM -0400, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 12:25:33AM -0700, Andrew
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 10:40:04PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
[snip]
Are you missing anything from the GNOME Classic mode *)? It offers
exactly what you are asking for, with zero need for configuration.
It's available right next to the GNOME session on your login manager.
Michael
*)
Hi
On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 09:10:23AM -0400, Reinhard Tartler wrote:
On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 3:01 AM, Matthias Urlichs matth...@urlichs.de wrote:
[...]
IMHO it's reasonable to expect core APIs to be upwards-compatible and keep
deprecated interfaces around for another release or two.
This
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 10:53:56PM +0200, wm4 wrote:
To be fair, FFmpeg does its own manual symbol versioning by appending
increasing numbers to function names. But the real problem are not
these functions, but public structs. Imagine a new API user fighting to
guess which fields in
XFCE:
total used free sharedbuffers cached
Mem:506756 362468 144288 6568 22756 179264
-/+ buffers/cache: 160448 346308
Swap: 392188 0 392188
GNOME:
total used free shared
Are we really comparing RAM here as if it were the 90's? How many people
here use Android? Today it needs 512 MB to function properly. In two years
that could be 1 or 2 GB and that's a mobile OS. How much RAM does your
browser use? My Chrome/Firefox easily uses 1 GB. My GNOME 3.10 desktop
(running
On Saturday, 9 de August de 2014 12:04:56 Axel Wagner escribió:
[...]
I really think, in these kinds of discussions it would be helpfull to
get some kind of direct community-feedback. This would help *both* sides
in every of these discussions, because it would make it impossible for
either
Take two
On Sun, 2014-08-10 at 21:58 +0200, Tomasz Nitecki wrote:
Hey,
On 10/08/14 01:38, Alan Wilson wrote:
Hello,
dpkg -s firmware-ipw2x00 | grep Version returns:
'Version: 0.36+wheezy.1'
Ok, that is the latest stable version.
However, I see neither this nor your last
On Sat, 2014-08-09 at 16:22 +0200, Tomasz Nitecki wrote:
Hey,
Can you please send that last email to bug tracker too? Anything you
send to 756...@bugs.debian.org will show up in the web browsable version
[1] which will allow more people to look into your problem. As a matter
of fact, I
On Monday, 11 de August de 2014 16:34:04 Matthias Urlichs escribió:
Hi,
Lennart Sorensen:
it needs buttons on windows that people expect to see where they expect
to see them
You mean left vs. right side?
Would Debian be willing to make gnome3 have different defaults than
upstream
Hi,
wm4:
Build something on a newer glibc system, and try to run the binary on
an older system. It most likely won't work - even if it could in
theory. (At least it was this way some years ago. Probably still is.)
What would be the point of introducing new or updated interfaces
if you then
On 12 August 2014 01:03, Kees de Jong keesdej...@gmail.com wrote:
Are we really comparing RAM here as if it were the 90's?
I had stated previously XFCE had started showing memory usage similar to
gnome. This has quite obviously changed. I was wrong, and i'm posting it as
a correction to my
Hi,
Noel Torres:
I think we should not care about Gnome's target audience, but about Debian's
target audience. Remember Debian Social Contract , #4.
No single DE can be the perfect DE-to-end-all-DE-flames^Wdiscussions to all
users.
If the missing min+max buttons is the only problem here, a
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