❦ 19 novembre 2014 08:45 +0100, Matthias Urlichs matth...@urlichs.de :
The disadvantage of the sudo method is that you are spawning a PAM session,
which is not desirable for any service.
Ah. Thanks for the reminder; mentioning the session issue completely
slipped my mind. :-/
If one does
On 19 November 2014 08:02, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud o...@debian.org wrote:
Le mercredi, 19 novembre 2014, 00.00:48 Michal Suchanek a écrit :
On 18 November 2014 18:57, Jordi Mallach jo...@debian.org wrote:
El dl 17 de 11 de 2014 a les 15:41 +0100, en/na Michal Suchanek va
escriure:
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Le mercredi, 19 novembre 2014, 09.34:22 Michal Suchanek a écrit :
On 19 November 2014 08:02, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud o...@debian.org
wrote:
Le mercredi, 19 novembre 2014, 00.00:48 Michal Suchanek a écrit :
I had Ubuntu base system on this particular PC some years ago and I
noticed this issue
I'd like to apologize to the systemd maintainer team, and to Tollef in
particular for my TC vote on the libpam-systemd bug.
The discussion on this issue was an excellent model of the Debian
community at work:
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=746578
Josh Triplett (who
well, debconf seems like a win here.
There's no reasonable default so it's desirable to make it easy for the
admin to specify and so you'd probably want to use normal best practice
for debconf updates.
I agree with this but unfortunately original minidlna package as no
debconf setup :-)
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On 18 November 2014 00:52, Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org wrote:
On 11/18/2014 03:50 AM, Michal Suchanek wrote:
With
current sysvinit the serial console is also used as main but
sysvinit-core does not produce any messages on tty0 whatsoever and so
does not mislead the user into thinking that
Matthias Urlichs wrote:
Hi,
Steve Langasek:
The disadvantage of the sudo method is that you are spawning a PAM
session, which is not desirable for any service.
Ah. Thanks for the reminder; mentioning the session issue completely
slipped my mind. :-/
If one does need to use a sudo
Eric Valette eric.vale...@free.fr wrote:
well, debconf seems like a win here.
There's no reasonable default so it's desirable to make it easy for
the
admin to specify and so you'd probably want to use normal best
practice
for debconf updates.
I agree
Hi,
Wido and I have been talking about bringing Cloudstack into Debian.
There is quite a bit of work involved because several dependencies are
not yet packaged.
This obviously brings up the question if anyone else on either of the
developer lists is interested in working on it? Please raise your
Laurent Bigonville writes (Re: Re: init system policy):
Matthias Urlichs wrote:
See man 5 sudoers for details.
You probably want to use runuser that has been introduced recently in
utils-linux
Or `really' from chiark-really (from chiark-utils).
Ian.
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On 19 November 2014 16:12, Gunnar Wolf gw...@gwolf.org wrote:
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Ron writes (Re: RFC: DEP-14: Recommended layout for Git packaging
repositories):
As I explained in the earlier discussion with Henrique, there are more
things than just : and ~ which are perfectly legal in debian version
strings, but are illegal constructs in git refnames.
AFAICT[1], the
Hi,
On Wed Nov 19, 2014 at 14:55:51 +0100, Michael Meskes wrote:
Hi,
Wido and I have been talking about bringing Cloudstack into Debian.
There is quite a bit of work involved because several dependencies are
not yet packaged.
This obviously brings up the question if anyone else on
Hi Wido / Michael,
I would like to be part of this group, have some RPM packaging experience in
Cloudstack and Cloudplatform.
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Rayees
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Le 19/11/2014 14:55, Michael Meskes a écrit :
Also, as a bonus question to the Debian folks, should we try
establishing a cloudstack packaging group or do we push the effort into
the java packaging group?
Cloudstack is more than welcome under the pkg-java umbrella if that
helps you getting
Am Dienstag, 18. November 2014, 23:31:53 schrieb Steve Langasek:
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 07:47:59PM +0100, Matthias Urlichs wrote:
Your specific package may well have different and non-general
requirements,
in which case
ExecStart=sudo -u $USER_MINIDLNA -g GROUP_MINIDLNA
On Tue, 18 Nov 2014, Helmut Grohne wrote:
From this little exercise, it seems that it is not well understood in
what way services should be signalled after log rotation. In particular,
it seems to me that service and invoke-rc.d should not be both valid. So
I’ve experimented a bit with this
On Wed, 19 Nov 2014, Michal Suchanek wrote:
Release: testing
I had Ubuntu base system on this particular PC some years ago and I
Hah! I’m not the only one then ☺
bye,
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On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 03:41:12PM +, Ian Jackson wrote:
Ron writes (Re: RFC: DEP-14: Recommended layout for Git packaging
repositories):
As I explained in the earlier discussion with Henrique, there are more
things than just : and ~ which are perfectly legal in debian version
Russ Allbery wrote:
Bob Proulx writes:
Maybe I am missing a better alternative?
update-rc.d service disable
No. That is too late. By the time you are disabling something it has
already been installed and started in postinst scripts. Using
policy-rc.d is the only way to prevent unknown
Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com writes:
No. That is too late. By the time you are disabling something it has
already been installed and started in postinst scripts. Using
policy-rc.d is the only way to prevent unknown anythings from being
enabled before installing.
Ah, yes, that's true.
P.S.
Hello,
Generic question. In my experience some upstream include some redistributable
binary files. For example some binary stuff to create a .app on osX, minified
javascript, and whatever.
Now, assuming that:
- these files are redistributable, so there is no legal problem in hosting
them on
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On Nov 19, Salvo Tomaselli tipos...@tiscali.it wrote:
Should the upstream tarball be repackaged to remove them, or not?
They do not need to be removed at least if they can be rebuilt from the
source in the package (but they do not have to).
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Quoting Russ Allbery (2014-11-19 19:28:09)
Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com writes:
No. That is too late. By the time you are disabling something it has
already been installed and started in postinst scripts. Using
policy-rc.d is the only way to prevent unknown anythings from being
enabled
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On Nov 19, Salvo Tomaselli tipos...@tiscali.it wrote:
Should the upstream tarball be repackaged to remove them, or
not?
They do not need to be removed at least if they can be rebuilt from
the source in
Salvo Tomaselli tipos...@tiscali.it writes:
Should the upstream tarball be repackaged to remove them, or not?
First, note that the source package of any package in Debian is also
covered by the Social Contract. (Some people are surprised by this, so
it bears stating explicitly.)
Second, the
On 19/11/14 19:19, Salvo Tomaselli wrote:
Generic question. In my experience some upstream include some redistributable
binary files. For example some binary stuff to create a .app on osX, minified
javascript, and whatever.
...
- these files are redistributable, so there is no legal problem
Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk writes:
Which implies, I believe, that any other way of starting daemons should
also respect policy-rc.d if it can lead to automated triggering.
Example: if a logrotate snippet uses update-rc.d force-restart ...
then suppressing that deamon with policy-rc.d
On 19/11/14 19:41, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
Example: if a logrotate snippet uses update-rc.d force-restart ...
then suppressing that deamon with policy-rc.d will be circumvented when
cron triggers log rotation.
If it uses update-rc.d force-restart then it will fail, because that
isn't a
Simon McVittie s...@debian.org writes:
If you meant service, I think the answer is that's a bug. service
intentionally doesn't respect enabledness either, under at least
sysvinit and systemd, so it's a bug even in the absence of policy-rc.d.
Right, service is a tool for the local
Hi,
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 12:40:00AM -0800, Keith Packard wrote:
I'd like to apologize to the systemd maintainer team, and to Tollef in
particular for my TC vote on the libpam-systemd bug.
The discussion on this issue was an excellent model of the Debian
community at work:
Thank you
Anyone else seeing this problem?
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$ git pull
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Hi,
Quoting Salvo Tomaselli (2014-11-19 20:19:59)
Generic question. In my experience some upstream include some
redistributable binary files. For example some binary stuff to create
a .app on osX, minified javascript, and whatever.
Now, assuming that:
- these files are redistributable,
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Quoting Simon McVittie (2014-11-19 21:49:49)
On 19/11/14 19:41, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
Example: if a logrotate snippet uses update-rc.d force-restart ...
then suppressing that deamon with policy-rc.d will be circumvented
when cron triggers log rotation.
If it uses update-rc.d
On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 3:19 AM, Salvo Tomaselli wrote:
Generic question. In my experience some upstream include some redistributable
binary files. For example some binary stuff to create a .app on osX, minified
javascript, and whatever.
Could you include some information about the upstream
Paul Wise p...@debian.org writes:
I think the best solution is to send upstream some patches that remove
the files in question from the VCS and add commands to their build
system to build the files in question from their source.
In my experience, many upstreams have an aversion to an explicit
On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Ben Finney wrote:
In my experience, many upstreams have an aversion to an explicit build
step, because they see VCS as not only a VCS, but also as an end-user
distribution platform.
I would suggest that VCSen are for developers, packagers and advanced
users,
Paul Wise p...@debian.org writes:
Upstreams that want to cater to end-users can distribute prebuilt
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packages or app installers.
You'll get no disagreement from me on that.
But a growing number of upstreams disagree, so
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On 19 November 2014 08:02, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud o...@debian.org wrote:
Le mercredi, 19 novembre 2014, 00.00:48 Michal Suchanek a écrit :
On 18 November 2014 18:57, Jordi Mallach jo...@debian.org wrote:
El dl 17 de 11
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On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Ben Finney wrote:
But a growing number of upstreams disagree, so those upstreams are
likely to be actively opposed to your recommendation to patches which
remove non-source files from the VCS repository.
I wonder about the basis for that disagreement. I think
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