Accepted dict-wn 2.0-2 (all source)

2004-01-12 Thread Bob Hilliard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 16:33:06 -0500 Source: dict-wn Binary: dict-wn Architecture: source all Version: 2.0-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Bob Hilliard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Bob Hilliard [EMAIL PROTECTED

Accepted dict-devil 1.0-8 (all source)

2004-01-08 Thread Bob Hilliard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 17:52:12 -0500 Source: dict-devil Binary: dict-devil Architecture: source all Version: 1.0-8 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Bob Hilliard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Bob Hilliard [EMAIL PROTECTED

Accepted dict-devil 1.0-7 (all source)

2003-11-02 Thread Bob Hilliard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2003 12:04:21 -0500 Source: dict-devil Binary: dict-devil Architecture: source all Version: 1.0-7 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Bob Hilliard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Bob Hilliard [EMAIL PROTECTED

Accepted dict-gcide 0.48-4 (all source)

2003-11-02 Thread Bob Hilliard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2003 11:40:23 -0500 Source: dict-gcide Binary: dict-gcide dict-web1913 Architecture: source all Version: 0.48-4 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Bob Hilliard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Bob Hilliard

Accepted dict-devil 1.0-6 (all source)

2003-09-21 Thread Bob Hilliard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 15:48:30 -0400 Source: dict-devil Binary: dict-devil Architecture: source all Version: 1.0-6 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Bob Hilliard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Bob Hilliard [EMAIL PROTECTED

Accepted dict-wn 2.0-1 (all source)

2003-09-01 Thread Bob Hilliard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 18:26:19 -0400 Source: dict-wn Binary: dict-wn Architecture: source all Version: 2.0-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Bob Hilliard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Bob Hilliard [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: ITA freedict

2003-08-28 Thread Bob Hilliard
Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: . . . LOCPATH=/tmp/usr/lib/locale dictfmt --locale ($LOCALE_NAME).$(LOCALE_CHAR= SET) ought to have the desired effect. All locale-related glibc functions should respect the value of LOCPATH Thanks, Steve. It works as advertised now. I had

Re: ITA freedict

2003-08-26 Thread Bob Hilliard
Petter Reinholdtsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you set LOCPATH to the equivalent of /usr/lib/locale, and LC_ALL to the name of the locale you generate, you should get what you want without being root. Something like this (mostly cut-n-paste from d-i build system): # The variables

ITA freedict

2003-08-23 Thread Bob Hilliard
I sent the following message with the X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org header, but apparently [EMAIL PROTECTED] doesn't recognize that header, so I am resending it. -- tags 206113 +ITA thanks I intend to adopt freedict, which was recently orphaned. dict-freedict

/usr/bin/pager

2003-08-07 Thread Bob Hilliard
Is /usr/bin/pager a Debianism, or is it common to other distributions and/or unices? Regards, Bob -- _ |_) _ |_Robert D. Hilliard[EMAIL PROTECTED] |_) (_) |_) 1294 S.W. Seagull Way [EMAIL PROTECTED] Palm City, FL 34990 USA GPG Key ID: 390D6559

Re: Future releases of Debian

2003-07-26 Thread Bob Hilliard
John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bob Hilliard wrote: A true newbie would be one who has never used a computer before. To such a person, a CLI is much more intuitive than any GUI. Colin Walters writes: And your research supporting this is...? No research, but I've had a couple

Re: Future releases of Debian

2003-07-25 Thread Bob Hilliard
Bernhard R. Link [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Taken this statement directly it's user-unfriendly in both the sense of newbie-unfriendly and experienced-unfriendly. (A newbie might like it, but he will still suffer from it). There is a widespread tendency to consider newbie to mean a

Re: May packages rm -rf subdirectories of /etc/ ?

2003-07-25 Thread Bob Hilliard
Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Umm. apt allows you to determine reverse depends. From there there is an easy hop to sending email to ask the develoeprsa in question; or to exaimine a package to look at its conffiles. Slightly off-topic, is there any tool to easily

Re: Excessive wait for DAM - something needs to be done

2003-07-22 Thread Bob Hilliard
In my experience, James has been very responsive, albeit not verbose, to reasonable questions/requests that don't start out saying James is a bum - throw him out. Regards, Bob -- _ |_) _ |_Robert D. Hilliard[EMAIL PROTECTED] |_) (_) |_) 1294 S.W. Seagull Way

Accepted dict-gcide 0.48-3 (all source)

2003-06-04 Thread Bob Hilliard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 17:46:12 -0400 Source: dict-gcide Binary: dict-web1913 dict-gcide Architecture: source all Version: 0.48-3 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Bob Hilliard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Bob Hilliard

Re: Debian conference in the US?

2003-05-24 Thread Bob Hilliard
Please take all of these political screeds off -devel!! Regards. Bob -- _ |_) _ |_Robert D. Hilliard[EMAIL PROTECTED] |_) (_) |_) 1294 S.W. Seagull Way [EMAIL PROTECTED] Palm City, FL 34990 USA GPG Key ID: 390D6559

Re: Questions regarding utf-8

2003-05-16 Thread Bob Hilliard
Andreas Metzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: *prompt* echo ö§ | recode latin1..ascii oSS *prompt* echo ö§ | iconv -f latin1 -t ascii//TRANSLIT ; echo $? oe? -- »oe« is much better than »o« and »SS« is no usable replacement for »§« (I do not think there is one), it would be nice

Re: Questions regarding utf-8

2003-05-14 Thread Bob Hilliard
Thanks to all who replied to my recent question on this subject. Andreas Metzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With glibc I'd use iconv --from=SRC-ENCODING --to=DST-ENCODING//TRANSLIT if it is acceptable to change the length of strings. This will replace e.g. the Euro-Symbol with EUR.

Re: The Debian Mentors Project

2003-05-13 Thread Bob Hilliard
Christoph Haas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: However the service was created especially for people who e.g. have written an application themselves and do not care about becoming a DD. I object to the conept of people who do not care about

Problems with XFS patch and SMP

2002-12-10 Thread Bob Hilliard
I wrote: Bug#171943 reports that dictd 1.8.0 fails to start with the following error message: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ /usr/sbin/dictd -d nofork :I: 2535 starting dictd 1.8.0/rf on Linux 2.4.19-xfs Tue Dec 3 23:43:09 2002 dictd (dict_index_open): Cannot mmap index file

Problems with XFS patch and SMP

2002-12-08 Thread Bob Hilliard
Bug#171943 reports that dictd 1.8.0 fails to start with the following error message: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ /usr/sbin/dictd -d nofork :I: 2535 starting dictd 1.8.0/rf on Linux 2.4.19-xfs Tue Dec 3 23:43:09 2002 dictd (dict_index_open): Cannot mmap index file /dev/null(dict_index_open) Cannot

Re: Packages still in Potato

2002-04-10 Thread Bob Hilliard
Otto Wyss [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Packages: dict-easton, dict-gazetteer, dict-hitchcock The listed packages are still located in the Potato directory, possibly because there wasn't any update necessary during the full Woody development phase, but maybe also because there is no interest

Re: BSP?

2002-04-02 Thread Bob Hilliard
Alan James [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is there a dict dictionary with all these debian TLAs in it ? I've dont think I've heard BSP before. dict-vera contains most Debian TLAs. I will add BSP to the next release. dict-foldoc includes many Debian TLAs, and defines many Debian-specific

Re: BSP?

2002-04-02 Thread Bob Hilliard
Alan James [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Maybe I'll have a look at creating a dict-debian, there seem to be quite a few potential entries :-) Joey Hess started one several years ago, but abandoned it when I offered to incorporate his work into dict-foldoc. We discussed (I think on -devel)

Re: rdate can't connect socket

2001-09-19 Thread Bob Hilliard
Samuel Tardieu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 16/09, Bob Hilliard wrote: | This has worked consistently for a long time, but for the past | week or two it returns: | rdate: Could not connect socket: Connection refused | | This message returns almost instantly - too quickly, I

rdate can't connect socket

2001-09-16 Thread Bob Hilliard
I posted the following to -user three days ago with no response. Can someone here help? I have the following command in a cron.daily script: rdate time.mist.god This has worked consistently for a long time, but for the past week or two it returns: rdate: Could not

Bug reports - copies to submitter

2001-01-07 Thread Bob Hilliard
This is probably in the documentation somewhere, but I haven't been able to find it. Which messages to the bug reporting system are automatically forwarded to the submitter, and which must be explicitly copied to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bob -- _ |_) _ |_ Robert D. Hilliard

GRUB Questions

2000-12-28 Thread Bob Hilliard
Is there a GRUB mailing list, or is this the proper forum for GRUB questions? Bob -- _ |_) _ |_ Robert D. Hilliard [EMAIL PROTECTED] |_) (_) |_) 1294 S.W. Seagull Way [EMAIL PROTECTED] Palm City, FL USA GPG Key ID: 390D6559

Re: wnpp bug reports

2000-12-22 Thread Bob Hilliard
Josip Rodin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 12:58:54PM -0500, Bob Hilliard wrote: Is there any way to submit an ITP bug on WNPP, so that the bug number appears in the copy to -devel? Yes, put -devel in Cc: or (X-Debbugs-Cc:) fields. When I have done

Re: Single architecture on -announce lists

2000-03-19 Thread Bob Hilliard
Ben Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, Mar 17, 2000 at 04:49:54PM -0500, Bob Hilliard wrote: During the slink freeze there was some discussion of the wasted bandwidth due to -devel-announce and -announce listing all packages installed/uploaded to all architectures

Single architecture on -announce lists

2000-03-18 Thread Bob Hilliard
During the slink freeze there was some discussion of the wasted bandwidth due to -devel-announce and -announce listing all packages installed/uploaded to all architectures. As I recall, the consensus was that, after slink was released, these lists would be split by architecture, and

Re: Single architecture on -announce lists

2000-03-18 Thread Bob Hilliard
Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --n8g4imXOkfNTN/H1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Mar 17, 2000 at 04:49:54PM -0500, Bob Hilliard wrote: During the slink freeze there was some

Volunteer(s) needed

1999-09-03 Thread Bob Hilliard
I will be unable to prepare/maintain the Release-Notes for potato. At least one volunteer to take over this this important but unexciting job is urgently needed. The slink Release-Notes attempted to cover the important new and changed features in slink, and to give instructions for

Re: pending normal debian bugs for debian-devel@lists.debian.org

1999-05-19 Thread Bob Hilliard
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) writes: On May 18, Nag [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: #20734 general autoup.sh http://www.debian.org/Bugs/db/20/20734.html #20743 general autoup.sh: wtmp, utmp and btmp

Compiling wordinspect for potato

1999-05-17 Thread Bob Hilliard
I have recently adopted wordinspect and am trying to compile it for potato. The slink version lists the following dependencies: Depends: dict, libc6 (= 2.0.7u), libglib1.1 (= 1.1.3-2), libgtk1.1 (= 1:1.1.\2-2), xlib6g (= 3.3-5) libglib1.1 and libgtk1.1 are not in potato under those

dupload problem

1999-01-19 Thread Bob Hilliard
= [EMAIL PROTECTED], # stable, contrib, non-free mailtx = [EMAIL PROTECTED], # unstable, exper. visibleuser = hilliard, visiblename = debian.org, fullname = Bob Hilliard, }; How can I eliminate the excessive number of pass-phrase entries? Bob

Corporate Visibility for Linux

1998-10-15 Thread Bob Hilliard
The following is quoted from the column Business Bulletin on the front page of today's Wall Street journal, which is probably the most widely read newspaper by corporate America: 'FREEWARE' STIRS debate while entrepreneurs find a nice niche. Advocates prefer to call the free

Re: apt and hamm

1998-06-16 Thread Bob Hilliard
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Adam P. Harris) writes: Bob Hilliard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I will be out of town after tomorrow for about a week, so I won't be able to do anything on the README before then, but I don't think 2.0 will be released before then. Perhaps not. Anyhow we should

Re: apt and hamm

1998-06-15 Thread Bob Hilliard
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Adam P. Harris) writes: Bob Hilliard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There is a README for autoup.sh on {ftp|http}://debian.vicnet.net.au/autoup/. Both the README and autoup.sh should have a separate (simplified) version for use on the CD. (For instance

Re: apt and hamm

1998-06-15 Thread Bob Hilliard
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Adam P. Harris) writes: (a) we need specific installation instructions for upgrading. Igor, is this supposed to be part of the install.sgml document, or is it separate? (b) recommend for upgrades that users use *either* autoup.sh or, if they are daring,

dict-foldoc-19980612 removed from Incoming

1998-06-13 Thread Bob Hilliard
Yesterday, 12 Jun 1998, I uploaded dict-foldoc-19980612, which included a new upstream version. After uploading it, I realized that dpkg-buildpackage had treated it as a Debian specific package, so no .orig.tar.gz or .diff was included in the upload. I have removed this package from

Re: Volunteer(s) wanted to help with owner@bugs.debian.org

1998-06-10 Thread Bob Hilliard
I will volunteer to work on: 1. Reading and responding to [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail, and 2. Actual administration and maintenance of the bug system (to the extent of my capabilities - I will yell quickly if I get stuck). I would prefer to share these functions with someone else, since I

Re: mirror-2.9 released, and hopefully DFSG compliant

1998-06-03 Thread Bob Hilliard
Hi, What new and improved features would we forego if you released a mirror28 package? I guess I will have to install 2.9 to see if I'm happy with it. Perhaps you could persuade the author to add support for restarts on partially downloaded files, and any other desirable patches that

Re: mirror-2.9 released, and hopefully DFSG compliant

1998-06-02 Thread Bob Hilliard
Hi, This new release is fresh code, and I won't pull out all the patches we applied against mirror_2.8. Let me know if there is a feature in 2.8 that you really miss. I could make a 'retro' package mirror28 of the old release. The changelog for mirror 2.8-15 included: * Applied

Re: hamm

1998-05-05 Thread Bob Hilliard
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Trying to upgrade via FTP to hamm would be too painfull at 28.8KB! Hi, It depends on your pain threshold, I guess. I thought that too, until I started the bo testihng program a little over a year ago. Since then I have updated from rex to bo, then bo to hamm, and

Re: ppp: how to tell the connection speed?

1998-05-02 Thread Bob Hilliard
Marcelo E. Magallon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sat, May 02, 1998 at 08:12:35AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marcelo E. Magallon writes: As you can see chat breaks the CONNECT line. Is there a way to tell the connection speed? 'ATW2' will make the modem (or at least, my modem)

Re: Boot Disks

1998-04-29 Thread Bob Hilliard
Lindsay Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: May I suggest that you forward your message upstream to either the kernel people or those who do the drivers. It is downright embarrasing to have our favourite OS not be able to read a floppy reliably. Actually, my points were that almost all of

Re: Proposed Constitution

1998-04-28 Thread Bob Hilliard
Mark Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They is not only a singular, it is also widely accepted as a singular pronoun, and has been used as such by not only ordinary people but also great writers for hundreds of years. All of my dictionaries give nominative plural of he, she, or it as the

Re: Conflicts between developers and policy

1998-04-28 Thread Bob Hilliard
Raul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why do you think that these are the reasons? You might be right, but I'd like to know your reasons before agreeing that these are the primary reasons for bugs not being fixed. There are a nuamber of sub-threads in this thread using the same

Re: Boot Disks

1998-04-28 Thread Bob Hilliard
Jason Gunthorpe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, 28 Apr 1998, Hamish Moffatt wrote: The sensitivity to good disks is, as I understand it, caused by poor BIOS floppy drivers and is independent of the Linux kernel, let alone which distribution you are running. Actually, as I understood

Re: Directory for dictionary databases

1998-04-28 Thread Bob Hilliard
Andreas Tille [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But in my opinion it is a bad solution if every translation related data should be stored in different directories. I think a directory structure should be as logical as possible. Im not familiar with FHS and havn't enough time to learn about it. But

Re: Conflicts between developers and policy

1998-04-27 Thread Bob Hilliard
Cc: Debian Developers list debian-devel@lists.debian.org, Debian policy list debian-policy@lists.debian.org From: Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 27 Apr 1998 14:47:23 -0500 Lines: 44 Hi, Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm. I think I like the idea of the

Proposed Constitution

1998-04-27 Thread Bob Hilliard
I suggest that Section B. Use of language and typography be amended to include a statement similar to Where the context permits, the masculine shall include the feminine, and the singular shall include the plural. Then all of the clumsy constructions using plural pronouns (they, their) to

Directory for dictionary databases

1998-04-27 Thread Bob Hilliard
In earlier discussions, it was agreed that the proper location for dictionary databases under the FHS would be /usr/share/dict/pkgname. Subsequently, I have obtained a copy of the FHS, and have discussed this subject with the upstream author of the dictd package. An abbreviated

Re: wu-ftpd important bug(s)

1998-04-25 Thread Bob Hilliard
More formal definitions: From Jargon File (4.0.0/24 July 1996) [jargon]: deprecated /adj./ Said of a program or feature that is considered obsolescent and in the process of being phased out, usually in favor of a specified replacement. Deprecated features can,

Re: gpm and time after hamm upgrade

1998-04-25 Thread Bob Hilliard
Corey Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After upgrading to hamm, I have experienced the two following problems. First, gpm no longer seems to work with my mouse. I have a PS/2 M$ Intellimouse, which used to work fine as type ps2. I tried that setup, under which it only moves the cursor

Re: Upgrading Debian 1.3.1r6 to frozen

1998-04-23 Thread Bob Hilliard
Hi, Did you really mean 18 or is that a typo for 19? Is it going to hamm or slink? It seems to me that emacs19 should be in 2.0, but the release policy would seem to require it to go in slink. Bob Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: emacs18 is also present in Incoming

Dictionary directory

1998-04-23 Thread Bob Hilliard
When we discussed directory locations several weeks ago, I said I would wait for some policy statements about the FHS. After looking at how much is already in /usr/share, I have changed my mind and now agree with you. I am almost finished with my dictionary packages, and have built them to

Wordnet Package: (Was Re: Dictionary directory)

1998-04-23 Thread Bob Hilliard
Hi, DISCLAIMER: I am a new developer also, and my advice may not be very good. Also I am building my packages by hand, and have never looked at any of the helper scripts, so I can't address how to make debstd put the files where you want them. If I understand you correctly, you want

Re: build: no utmp entry available

1998-04-23 Thread Bob Hilliard
Hi, You wrote: PS: Should I post such kind of questions to debian-mentors? I'm afraid an overflow of my mailbox if I subscribe more and more mailing lists. debian-mentors is relatively low volume, and will likely produce better responses to new maintainer type questions

Re: Upgrading Debian 1.3.1r6 to frozen

1998-04-23 Thread Bob Hilliard
Hi, Thanks and bravo! I'm getting tired of fighting with dselect, which insists on replacing my emacs 19.34-13 with emacs20. Bob Hi, I meant emacs19, and I think it is felt to be a bug fix release, (not working with the other debian emacsen setup is a pretty major bug) so it

New install.txt

1998-04-20 Thread Bob Hilliard
Sorry I'm late in getting back to you with comments on your new version of install.txt. I think this is a big improvement over previous versions. A few minor points to consider: Under Information You'll Need, you should tell the reader that he doesn't need the network information for

dictd and wordnet

1998-04-16 Thread Bob Hilliard
Hi, This is in response to your message of Wed, 8 Apr 1998. I apologize for taking so long to get back to you. As I said before, I am packaging dictd, containing the client server software developed by the DICT Group. There will be a number of separate packages containing the

Re: dictd and wordnet

1998-04-16 Thread Bob Hilliard
Hi, You wrote: I'm in the process of becomming a Debian maintainer. Unfortunately this process isn't finished since two weeks (may be it is delayed because of the efforts in the upcomming hamm release). I would like to maintain wordnet than. But may be I would need your help because

Re: where can i get debhelper and lintian

1998-04-16 Thread Bob Hilliard
Martin Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They're part of the distribution - hamm. The newest lintian is in the incoming since yesterday - and installed on master+va. IIRC, Christian's message yesterday said the newest lintian was in slink, not hamm. I downloaded it from slink on

Re: dictd and wordnet

1998-04-16 Thread Bob Hilliard
Jean Pierre LeJacq [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, /usr/share/dict. Shouldn't new package be constructed from the start to use FHS? IIRC, it is intended to implement the FHS with symlinks initially. Until a definite announcement is made regarding the policy for implementing the FHS, I

Re: dictd and wordnet

1998-04-16 Thread Bob Hilliard
Hi, The old WordNet packages used usr/lib/wordnet/dict/. I believe This seemed me a bad choice and so I wanted to change it. I agree. It seems undesirable to create a directory with nothing in it but a subdirectory, if there is no expectation of adding more files or directories

Re: Dictionary Packages

1998-04-13 Thread Bob Hilliard
David Frey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Personally I'd prefer to have additional packages dictd-web1913, dictd-foldoc, dictd-... (depending on dictd), That's exactly what I had in mind. Sorry if my message left the wrong impression. I envisage four source packages and seven or eight binary

Dictionary Packages

1998-04-12 Thread Bob Hilliard
I have just packaged dictd, containing client/server software for accessing dictionaries. To do anything useful, the server must have dictionaries and indices in a suitable format. There are eight dictionaries available from the same site that provides the source for the

Re: Questions for maintaining several packages

1998-04-08 Thread Bob Hilliard
Andreas Tille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3) A free English dictionary (www.dict.org). I found a hint on http://www.debian.org/doc/prospective-packages.html that such a dictionary exists and is desired to be included into Debian. Is there any effort on this? I would