Just wanted to let people know that I'm going to hijack the
pilot-manager package. The current maintainer seems to be completely
MIA; he hasn't uploaded a version in over a year. I emailed him and
Feel free to adopt the pilot-manager package...
Darren
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While off on yet more travel earlier today, I confronted my lack of
progress in packaging Perl for Debian. For too long, I've been denying
it. But I have to face that my life is simply not currently structured
to have time to maintain Perl like I should. Brendan has been patient
over the months
Domenico Andreoli, in an immanent manifestation of deity, wrote:
i don't know how much what i'm going to say would be of help, but if you added
a new check in configure.in in order to let your source know what kind of db.h
you have? you could be pretty sure that your sources are getting compiled
Is there some set of defines such that I can determine with #ifdef that
I've got a copy of glibc2 that has db.h as an include file? My plan is
that if such a #ifdef is true, then I can #include db2/db.h.
Thanks,
Darren
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Ben Collins, in an immanent manifestation of deity, wrote:
On Tue, Sep 12, 2000 at 12:46:02AM -0700, Darren/Torin/Who Ever... wrote:
Is there some set of defines such that I can determine with #ifdef that
I've got a copy of glibc2 that has db.h as an include file? My plan
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Ben Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED], in an immanent manifestation of deity, wrote:
More specifically it is dpkg doing the breaking, but it's perl's fault on
how it is setting everything up.
You will note that these two binaries are in the perl package itself
[EMAIL
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Branden Robinson, in an immanent manifestation of deity, wrote:
apt problem or perl problem? perl is shipping with a mode 600 executable; that
seems pretty weird to me but I try to keep my distance from perl.
[0] 1014 apocalypse ~ ls -dl /usr/bin/perl-5.005
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Russell Coker, in an immanent manifestation of deity, wrote:
It's been a while since the versioned Perl was introduced into potato, so I
tried removing the fake package perl-base.
Should I report bugs against bug, dpkg-perl, data-dumper, and tetex-base? Or
is
James LewisMoss, in an immanent manifestation of deity, wrote:
I have xemacs 21 packages aptable at
deb http://va.debian.org/~dres xemacs21/. I would appreciate
some people trying them out and seeing what problems you find (please
report directly to me rather than bug tracking system).
Well,
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Roderick Schertler, in an immanent manifestation of deity, wrote:
I don't think Andy is taking into account your plan of allowing both
threaded and non-threaded Perls present on the system at the same time.
That's okay since a) threaded Perl has it's own
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Andy Dougherty, in an immanent manifestation of deity, wrote:
After some thought, I think I'd recommend that perl5.005_xx retain the
same directory structure that perl5.00[34]_xx did. (with 5.005 in place of
5.00[34], of course).
That's good enough for me. I
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Brian White, in an immanent manifestation of deity, wrote:
Perl 5.005 will be replaced in Slink with 5.004. The new version will
remain in the next unstable.
Correct?
Definitely. Sorry for the slow reply but my root disk started spewing
scsi errors about 3
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Ian Jackson, in an immanent manifestation of deity, wrote:
A whole .deb for such a simple problem seems overkill. The
file/manpage below is what I use. It was in the Perl4 distribution.
Presumably perl5 comes with it too in the source. I have it as
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Zephaniah E. Hull, in an immanent manifestation of deity, wrote:
Rename perl to perl5.005, version 02-2 or such..
Then use the alternatives setup to decide which perl gets run when you
try to use just 'perl'..
That's possible but I'm not sure it's a good idea.
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Raphael Hertzog, in an immanent manifestation of deity, wrote:
Darren, if you agree, can you modify the perl package in order to
install modules in /usr/lib/perl5/debian and make these symlinks ?
- /usr/lib/perl5/$arch/$version = /usr/lib/perl5/debian/$arch
-
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Raphael Hertzog, in an immanent manifestation of deity, wrote:
Yes, but it's better leaving site_perl empty. It can be used for manually
(modules not in a .deb file) installing modules.
Yes, I realize this. But most people using Perl manually install
modules.
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Raphael Hertzog, in an immanent manifestation of deity, wrote:
What about also adding /usr/lib/perl5(/$arch)? at the end of @INC ?
Is it possible ?
In that way, recent packages that are installed in /usr/lib/perl5/debian
are used first and only if no package is
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Matt McLean, in an immanent manifestation of deity, wrote:
It's no longer needed. 5.00502 now has a configure test for union semun.
Cool. I thought I had seen that but I figured that I'd leave it for
people that track that much closer.
I know what's going on
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John Lapeyre, in an immanent manifestation of deity, wrote:
Ah, ... you are reading now.
Yes, sorry I'm a bit slow; I'm working on buying a house.
I do usually respond quicker to stuff in my inbox than just to list
stuff.
Could you confirm or
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Joey Hess, in an immanent manifestation of deity, wrote:
Do you have any plans to offer it as something like /usr/bin/perl-t? (or
would modules need to be rebuilt too?)
It will be available as /usr/bin/perl5.00502-thread. I could manage the
/usr/bin/perl-t as
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Stephen Zander, in an immanent manifestation of deity, wrote:
Not true Darren: dbmopen does the moral equivalent of the tie under
the covers. It's one of my pet peeves that perl links in libraries to
the main executable that are only required by extensions.
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James Troup, in an immanent manifestation of deity, wrote:
Of course, I agree, but my point was that gdbm *Shouldn't* be required
and although it will need to be made so in hamm as a kludge, I tried
to get this fixed properly back in March.
And the point that I
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Daniel Martin, in an immanent manifestation of deity, wrote:
My... it's been a while since I was investigating perl internals
(writing C code that was callable from perl) - at least two years,
which somehow seems much longer.
Well, I'll have my machine download
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James Troup, in an immanent manifestation of deity, wrote:
Darren/Torin/Who Ever... [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It hasn't happened *intentionally*. I'm not going to break many
Perl scripts without warning. We have a release where gdbm is
deprecated
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Chris Fearnley, in an immanent manifestation of deity, wrote:
But yesterday I upgraded a bo system to hamm which has a 3000 line
/etc/passwd. Now adduser takes OVER ONE MINUTE to find a UID and GID
for the new user. And my staff is complaining about the wasted
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James Troup, in an immanent manifestation of deity, wrote:
No; perl shouldn't depend on libgdbmg1. libgdbmg1 is obsolete and
deprecated. I asked the perl maintainer if he could fix this back in
March or so, apparently it hasn't happened.
We had this
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Raul Miller, in an immanent manifestation of deity, wrote:
James Troup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No; perl shouldn't depend on libgdbmg1. libgdbmg1 is obsolete and
deprecated. I asked the perl maintainer if he could fix this back in
March or so, apparently it
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Santiago Vila Doncel, in an immanent manifestation of deity, wrote:
- From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Jun 2 21:45:40 1998
Date: 28 May 1998 22:02:52 -0400
Once upon a time, I thought I would learn Perl. I got a copy of a
free manual, but I found it simply
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Joel Klecker, in an immanent manifestation of deity, wrote:
less (332-2.1) frozen unstable; urgency=high
.
* Non-maintainer release.
I had thought I had uploaded this but I don't see it anywhere on
master. I guess it was part of the master problem?
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Enrique Zanardi, in an immanent manifestation of deity, wrote:
P.S. Why is data-dumper in base?
'Cause libnet-perl depends on it.
Sorry, I mis-stated the question. Why does libnet-perl depend on
data-dumper in base. I thought we (as in debian-devel) had
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Anthony Fok, in an immanent manifestation of deity, wrote:
Actually, AFAIK, Mitsubishi stands for Three Diamonds. Mitsu is three
in Japanese, so I guess that means bishi is diamond. :-)
Yes, it's actually a geometric diamond as opposed to the stone...
(In
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I've mentioned this on debian-pilot but I should probably also mention
it here. I'm packaging pilot-manager (http://www.moshpit.org/pilotmgr/)
for debian. It's actually packaged already and waiting on the new
pilot-link to come out...
Darren
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Richard Braakman, in an immanent manifestation of deity, wrote:
One reason I like less is that it's so fast. I sometimes use it on
thousands of files at once. (For example, when searching a source
package for uses of a particular identifier).
I've been
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Carl Mummert, in an immanent manifestation of deity, wrote:
useful information when you use it on different types of files-- gzip for
gz files, tar -t for tar files, groff for manpages, etc... If I _wanted_
to look at the raw data of a gzipped file, I could do
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Manoj Srivastava, in an immanent manifestation of deity, wrote:
know how to do so. From the principle of least surprise, I say leave
the default alone (I hate how it does tar zvvft already; I used to be
able to look at text files in a tar.gz archive without
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I can't add the /proc entries since you don't know the full pathname of
the file you are viewing. I could use `pwd` to find out what directory
I'm in. If you'd like me to do that, just say so but it would involve
another fork/exec for every file. (All the
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Eloy A. Paris, in an immanent manifestation of deity, wrote:
an easy one: why when root runs a program that faults core is not
dumped but when a normal user runs the same program a core is dumped?
My educated guess on this is that there could be sensitive data
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Jason Gunthorpe, in an immanent manifestation of deity, wrote:
I'm not sure why you don't want to install mbr, all it is an image of the
boot record that lilo uses to generate it's boot record from, with out
/boot/mbr.b lilo will not work in some of it's
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Manoj Srivastava, in an immanent manifestation of deity, wrote:
Darren Now, I don't want to install mbr since I want lilo to manage
Darren my boot-records. I have no reason to use another bm.
Huh? mbr and LILO coexist on a system. There is no need to
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I was going to change perl to perl5 think weekend and just provide the
virtual package perl. This would close a bug filed by Brian White who
is worried about Perl6. While I was thinking about this during builds
of Perl, I realized that I can't do that right
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To solve a grave priority bug, I've made the perl package (from
5.004.04-3+) pre-depend on perl-base (=5.004.04-2). This is needed due
to the following:
Assume you have an earlier version of Perl installed (say from the bo
base disks) and you're installing perl
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I've got a slight problem that I fixed in a not completely elegant
manner. There is a new libperl5.so.\d+ in the latest set of Perl
packages. This means that if you just need to embed Perl into an
application and you don't need all the libraries or the
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Santiago Vila Doncel, in an immanent manifestation of deity, wrote:
On 4 Dec 1997, Darren/Torin/Who Ever... wrote:
Hmm. A thought as I spell-checked this. Can you pre-depend and depend
on the same package? perl's control will now look like:
...
Pre
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Vincent Renardias, in an immanent manifestation of deity, wrote:
On 21 May 1997, Darren/Torin/Who Ever... wrote:
1. Split the main executable and a small set of base files into
perl-base. This would be Priority: required, should it be Essential
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Amos Shapira, in an immanent manifestation of deity, wrote:
Or an audit-trail of invocations of dpkg (e.g. adduser 3.1-2 installed
and configured successfully on Wed May 29 1997 00:00:23, replaced
adduser-3.1-0)
I asked for this a while back and was told that
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Chris Fearnley, in an immanent manifestation of deity, wrote:
'Amos Shapira wrote:'
many use tripwire answers, and one which says that RPM has a verify
mode which checks for files which were changed since they were
What does the rpm verify give you? As far as
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I have some ideas on what I'm planning on doing with the Debian Perl
package in the near future.
1. Split the main executable and a small set of base files into
perl-base. This would be Priority: required, should it be Essential?
There will still be a
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Scott Ellis, in an immanent manifestation of deity, wrote:
As the official version of perl 5.004 is finally out (I must admit I
haven't installed the debian package yet, but I run webservers with lots
of perl CGI and can't afford to break them), I have a few
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Michael Meskes, in an immanent manifestation of deity, wrote:
As far as I can tell this package doesn't belong into non-free but could go
into graphics. Could anyone please check that? I think we have some other
packages with almost the same copyright in the
Ian Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED], in a magnificent manifestation of deity, wrote:
In principle this sounds like a good idea. I don't have a strong
opinion on whether Optional should be included in the `distribution'.
I think that it should be a part of the distribution (on the cd), it
just gives
I saw this on comp.os.linux.development.system, but I haven't tried
if it still compiles the kernel with gcc 2.7.x...
From: Russell Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: gcc 2.7.2 and kernel 1.2.13
This patch allows compilation of kernel 1.2.13
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Perens), in a magnificent manifestation of deity,
wrote:
There was a change in the way that GCC handles embedded assembler that
made new compilers incompatible with the old kernels. Ugh. The io.h file
in the new kernel is similar enough to the old one that it may be a
Package: source
Version: 1.2.13-7
Hmmm. I was fooling around with dpkg and source/includes for 1.2.13-7
and I came across the following. Since I haven't touched assembler for about
10 years, I don't know the problem. This was after make config; make dep;
make clean. I can include the .config
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I thought debian used to have libgr but I can't find it anywhere. I
just grabbed the latest version from ftp.ctd.comsat.com and it looks
fine so far. I could really use this for the netpbm package I'll be
uploading soon. So, I'm going to build a debian package and upload it,
it shouldn't take
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Chris Fearnley [EMAIL PROTECTED], in a magnificent manifestation of deity,
wrote:
'Michael Alan Dorman wrote:'
On Sun, 17 Dec 1995, Chris Fearnley wrote:
This is a preliminary release. It seems to work, but I'm disatisfied
with my handling of httpd configuration (basically there is none - you
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Engel), in a magnificent manifestation of deity, wrote:
It could. There is already some support for it in the Makefiles. I
chose to leave it for the eventual maintainer to add since it has
packaging and support ramifications. BTW, I did the same for libg++.
Who's going
Michael E. Deisher [EMAIL PROTECTED], in a magnificent manifestation of
deity, wrote:
Package: perl (elf-perl, actually)
Version: 5.001
Revision: 5
Perl contains a working crypt function and thus cannot be legally
exported from the US (someone correct me if I'm wrong). Probably, the
crypt
Austin Donnelly [EMAIL PROTECTED], in a magnificent manifestation of deity,
wrote:
Package: perl
Version: 5.001-4
Perl should suggest kernel sources, rather than grumble in postinst
later.
fixed.
Darren
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.daft.com/~torin/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hopefully, this won't show my ignorance of binary objects off too badly.
Shouldn't binutils-2.6 provide a shared bfd library?
It used to in 2.5.2l.20-2? I'm asking here instead of posting a bug
because I remember there being some discussion about this a little
while back.
Also, why is it that
Package: libdb1-dev
Version: 1.7.3-6
The control file has a bad depends in it:
grep '^Depends' libdb1-dev-control
Depends: libc5-dev (5.2.16-1), libdb1 (1.85.2.x)
That final .x shouldn't be there.
Output from 'dpkg -i libdb1-dev-1.7.3-6.deb'
(Reading database ... 21499 files and directories
Package: libgdbm1-dev
Version: 1.7.3-6
There's a problem with libgdbm1-dev since when I install the
corresponding shared library package, it should install also, right? It
doesn't. I can't tell if the following is a problem with dpkg or with
the Depends line:
dpkg -i libgdbm1-dev-1.7.3-6.deb
There is a new Perl in ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/private/project/Incoming/
that uses the sonames in libdb1 (libdb.so.1) and libgdbm1
(libgdbm.so.1). It has the proper requires line so it won't let you
install without them.
This version of perl also includes some doc updates and includes the
Ian Jackson spoke onto the world and said:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes (Re: Bug#1911: Perl postinst is unecessarily slow):
If it's acceptable that all the files will have the same permissions as
the files under /usr/include and /usr/local/include, then there is no
problems.
Huh ? Perl should
Manoj Srivastava spoke onto the world and said:
You see, there are a number of add-ons (or extensions) to Perl
that are very useful, (the perlTk stuff, the CGI modules, and libwww
come to mind), and these use MakeMaker and Config.pm to determine
where to put the files on install.
Ian Jackson spoke unto the world and said:
Package: perl
Version: 5.001-6 (a.out)
I've taken over the package and upgraded to version 5.002-1. This is my
very first debian package, so I only put it in private/project/Incoming
and asked people to comment on it on debian-devel. I wanted to make
Ian Jackson spoke unto the world and said:
Package: perl
Version: 5.001-6 (a.out)
While running `top' to see how the Perl postinst was getting on I saw:
root 8507 11.4 0.8 105 160 v02 S01:57 0:03 find
/usr/lib/perl5/i486-linux -type f -exec chmod 644 {} ;
This is still in 5.002-1.
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