Bug#785703: ITP: python-oath -- implementation of the three main OATH specifications

2015-05-19 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Goswin von Brederlow brede...@q-leap.de * Package name: python-oath Version : 1.4.0 Upstream Author : Benjamin Dauvergne benjamin.dauver...@gmail.com * URL : https://github.com/bdauvergne/python-oath * License : BSD

Bug#777043: ITP: libshark -- Shark Machine Learning Library

2015-02-04 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Goswin von Brederlow goswin-...@web.de * Package name: libshark Version : 3.0.11 Upstream Author : Institut fuer Neuroinformatik, Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum * URL : http://image.diku.dk/shark/ * License : GPL-3.0

Re: On accepting pre-generated doc from upstream

2013-07-23 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 12:07:59PM -0300, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer wrote: On Thursday 18 July 2013 14:45:38 Goswin von Brederlow wrote: [snip] - Option 3: (Note: I'm assuming you are generating API docs directly fromt the source files. So the input for the doc building

Re: On accepting pre-generated doc from upstream

2013-07-18 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Thu, Jun 06, 2013 at 11:35:46PM -0300, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer wrote: Hi everyone. First of all, I'm cross-posting this between legal and devel because I really don't know to which of them belongs (or maybe it does in both). The issue is this: Qt 5 has grown so large

Re: ITP: vmdebootstrap -- Bootstrap Debian into a (virtual machine) disk image

2013-07-18 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Sun, Jun 09, 2013 at 10:22:27PM +0100, Neil Williams wrote: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Neil Williams codeh...@debian.org * Package name: vmdebootstrap Version : 0.1.0 Upstream Author : Lars Wirzenius l...@debian.org * URL :

Re: Why not to let all DDs to execute gb-command

2013-07-18 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 09:15:48AM +0800, Chow Loong Jin wrote: On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 10:43:57PM +0200, Philipp Kern wrote: Hi, On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 07:56:24PM +0200, Anton Gladky wrote: So, I think the developer should have a set of tools (including gb and even slight removal

Re: Updating /etc/hosts automatically / behavior of sed command

2013-07-18 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Fri, Jul 05, 2013 at 10:14:54AM +0200, Thomas Hood wrote: Tad Frank wrote: Your issue lies in the line: sed -e s/$REGISTERED_IP/$CURRENT_IP/g /etc/hosts /etc/hosts.new I searched debian-devel for the message to which you are responding; the most recent message with that subject

Re: Forming a Debian bugsquad team (Was: Blacklists in BTS (stopping the trolls and bug machines))

2013-06-04 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 09:01:40PM +0200, Ond??ej Surý wrote: If we are to form the Debian bugsquad team similar to Ubuntu bugsquad team, the main two questions would be: 1. As a Debian Developer/Maintainer would you be thankful for other people to come and help with bugs in your package.

Re: Blacklists in BTS (stopping the trolls and bug machines)

2013-06-04 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 10:41:10AM +0200, Ond??ej Surý wrote: examples would be useful I have no big problem pointing fingers on d-d. Example 1: Dan Jacobson jida...@jidanni.org This: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=707759 Or this:

Re: GNU config (config.sub/guess) is now GPLv3 with additional permission

2013-06-04 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 03:08:59PM -0700, Josh Triplett wrote: On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 06:44:00PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: Upstream has changed the license to GPLv3. It has an additional permission to negate any viral effects, but it only applies to packages that include a

Re: Temporary solution for changelog problem in binNMUs

2013-05-21 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 03:42:06PM +0200, Thomas Preud'homme wrote: Le vendredi 17 mai 2013 15:36:02, Julien Cristau a écrit : On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 14:14:20 +0200, Thomas Preud'homme wrote: Also, it wouldn't help for the case of a binNMU on a subset of all arches since only some of

Re: /bin/sh

2013-05-21 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 11:36:53AM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote: On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 01:10:06PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 12:21:33PM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote: On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 10:03:34AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: I think that, to convince

Re: jessie release goals

2013-05-16 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 05:06:26PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: Am 12.05.2013 16:18, schrieb Daniel Schepler: Maybe we could have a release goal of dropping as many lib32* and lib64* packages as possible in favor of multi-arch. (And also as many package dependencies on libc6-[i386|amd64]

Re: jessie release goals

2013-05-16 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 12:17:06PM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: On 2013-05-07 23:53:07 +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: Now please, do the same reasoning with some other services, like Apache, pure-ftpd, or bind, and explain to me why you would like to have these installed, but not working.

Re: jessie release goals

2013-05-16 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 09:43:02PM +0200, Christoph Biedl wrote: Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote... 2) No more packages that bypass the package management system and secure apt: a) There are still several (typically non-free) packages which download stuff from the web, install or at

Re: /bin/sh (was Re: jessie release goals)

2013-05-16 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 05:29:45PM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote: On 2013-05-11 11:22 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: While that might be of some interest the real goal of the change was to be able to have more than *2* packages provide /bin/sh. Currently, due to the totaly screwed up

Re: /bin/sh (was Re: jessie release goals)

2013-05-16 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 02:40:39AM +0100, Wookey wrote: +++ Steve Langasek [2013-05-11 09:33 -0700]: On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 11:22:10AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: While that might be of some interest the real goal of the change was to be able to have more than *2* packages

Re: /bin/sh (was Re: jessie release goals)

2013-05-16 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 08:44:30PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 08:52:29PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: Being able to choose between two entirely different desktop environments, with different user experiences, is a good thing. Being able to choose between two /bin/sh

Re: /bin/sh

2013-05-16 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 12:21:33PM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote: On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 10:03:34AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: I think that, to convince people that flexibility won't cause stability and complexity problems, you're going to need to present a complete and fairly bulletproof

Re: /bin/sh (was Re: jessie release goals)

2013-05-16 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 02:40:39AM +0100, Wookey wrote: +++ Steve Langasek [2013-05-11 09:33 -0700]: On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 11:22:10AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: While that might be of some interest the real goal of the change was to be able to have more than *2* packages

Re: detailed lists with archive contents - more than just Contents

2013-05-14 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 03:21:35PM +0200, Helmut Grohne wrote: On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 11:48:06AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Both cases would need data for multiple archs. For the second case if identical files are in all foo_arch.deb then those should be in foo-common_all.deb

Re: Depends: libfoo:foreign ???

2013-05-14 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 07:55:30AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: On 05/09/2013 11:59 AM, Wookey wrote: +++ Goswin von Brederlow [2013-05-09 11:39 +0200]: I would say that a foreign dependency on a library is never right. That's too strong. It can make sense for cross-tools, or maybe

Re: Depends: libfoo:foreign ???

2013-05-14 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 10:31:54AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: On 05/13/2013 10:22 AM, The Wanderer wrote: On 05/13/2013 09:46 AM, Wookey wrote: Hmm. Do the parts of the 64-bit tree that the 32-bit side compiles against end up installed in a final installation (as libraries?) or are they

Re: Temporary solution for changelog problem in binNMUs

2013-05-14 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 06:04:58PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: Hi, On Montag, 13. Mai 2013, Guillem Jover wrote: The only thing the metadata solution would need now, is changing packaging helper, all packages not using a helper, and changelog and copyright extractors to look first in the

Re: Temporary solution for changelog problem in binNMUs

2013-05-14 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 11:09:53PM +0200, Ansgar Burchardt wrote: Hi, [ dropped -release and -wb-team ] Jonathan Nieder jrnie...@gmail.com writes: One problem that that doesn't solve is what to do when a package would be able to borrow its /doc/package directory from another package

Re: jessie release goals

2013-05-14 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 07:26:15PM +0200, Stephen Kitt wrote: On Sat, 11 May 2013 11:39:28 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow goswin-...@web.de wrote: On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 11:57:58AM +0200, Stephen Kitt wrote: The big issue which crops up then isn't so much the directory structure's impact

Re: Source build-dependencies

2013-05-14 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 06:03:30PM +0100, Wookey wrote: +++ Stephen Kitt [2013-05-09 10:46 +0200]: On Thu, 9 May 2013 10:10:01 +0200, Mike Hommey m...@glandium.org wrote: * source build dependencies (such that e.g binutils-mingw-w64 build depends on src:binutils instead of

Re: detailed lists with archive contents - more than just Contents

2013-05-13 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 09:09:06PM +0200, Helmut Grohne wrote: On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 03:04:20PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Will that also detect files in multiarch packages that are not identical? No, it does not do this at the moment. The main reason here is that currently only

Re: Depends: libfoo:foreign ???

2013-05-13 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Thu, May 09, 2013 at 04:59:28PM +0100, Wookey wrote: +++ Goswin von Brederlow [2013-05-09 11:39 +0200]: On Thu, May 09, 2013 at 08:43:22AM +0200, Niels Thykier wrote: On 2013-05-09 07:56, Paul Wise wrote: On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Andreas Beckmann wrote: I just noticed

Re: wheezy postmortem re rc bugfixing

2013-05-13 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 04:51:14PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: * Consider other ways in which our RC-bug-fixing efforts can be improved, especially during the latter part of the freeze. I think one way to improve hard to reproduce bugs or bugs in uncommon package would be to get more users

Re: epoch fix?

2013-05-13 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 11:53:46AM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: On 2013-05-10 02:01:15 +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: Seems nobody is picking-up on the topic, so I'll try once more, because I'm convince there's something we could do here. How about replacing epoch separator char : by @ in

Re: Temporary solution for changelog problem in binNMUs

2013-05-13 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 11:14:07AM +0200, Ansgar Burchardt wrote: Hi, with wheezy released and development on jessie started the problem with binNMUs for multiarch-enabled packages is back: binNMU'ed packages have different changelog entries and upgrades fail (for example [1]). [1]

Re: Merging / and /usr (was: jessie release goals)

2013-05-13 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 10:07:18AM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: On Thu, 9 May 2013 18:17:29 +0200, m...@linux.it (Marco d'Itri) wrote: On May 09, Bernhard R. Link brl...@debian.org wrote: Or in other words: to make essential functionality not available if /usr is broken. Again: this is not we

Re: Merging / and /usr (was: jessie release goals)

2013-05-13 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Thu, May 09, 2013 at 12:03:43PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: On Thu, May 09, 2013 at 11:50:31AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: If you make /usr a symlink to / then there will be to distinct paths to each file and that will confuse dpkg. The first problem that comes to mind is package

Re: jessie release goals

2013-05-11 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Tue, May 07, 2013 at 09:34:09PM +0100, Noel David Torres Taño wrote: On Lunes, 6 de mayo de 2013 13:49:57 Andreas Beckmann wrote: Hi, now might be the right time to start a discussion about release goals for jessie. Here are some points that come into my mind right now (and some

Re: /bin/sh (was Re: jessie release goals)

2013-05-11 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Tue, May 07, 2013 at 07:46:43PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: On Tue, 7 May 2013 16:46:46 +0200, m...@linux.it (Marco d'Itri) wrote: On May 07, Thorsten Glaser t...@debian.org wrote: My stated goal here is, indeed, to be able to run at least some useful configurations of a Debian installation

Re: jessie release goals

2013-05-11 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Tue, May 07, 2013 at 10:31:10PM +0100, Wookey wrote: +++ Stephen Kitt [2013-05-07 14:38 +0200]: Hi Wookey, On Tue, 7 May 2013 03:04:50 +0100, Wookey woo...@wookware.org wrote: (just a decision to leave arch-independent headers in /usr/include and move arch-dependent headers to

Re: jessie release goals

2013-05-11 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 11:57:58AM +0200, Stephen Kitt wrote: Let me explain where I'm coming from... With MinGW-w64, we have a set of compilers, headers and libraries which allow building software targeting native Windows, without Cygwin or much in the way of wrappers at all. This is

Re: [Popcon-developers] encrypted popcon submissions

2013-05-11 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 11:43:25AM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 10:44:25PM +0200, Peter Palfrader wrote: On Fri, 10 May 2013, Bill Allombert wrote: I am considering activating encryption of popularity-contest submissions using public key cryptography to protect

Re: Depends: libfoo:foreign ???

2013-05-09 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Thu, May 09, 2013 at 08:43:22AM +0200, Niels Thykier wrote: On 2013-05-09 07:56, Paul Wise wrote: On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Andreas Beckmann wrote: I just noticed that we have the first amd64 package in the archive that has dependencies on :i386 qualified libraries: Package:

Re: Merging / and /usr (was: jessie release goals)

2013-05-09 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Tue, May 07, 2013 at 04:56:04PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: On Tue, May 07, 2013 at 05:35:11PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: On May 07, ?? ?? pashev.i...@gmail.com wrote: What about merging / and /usr ? An ambitious plan. I strongly support the everything in /usr scheme,

Re: Merging / and /usr (was: jessie release goals)

2013-05-09 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 09:12:12AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: On 05/07/2013 11:41 AM, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: On Tue, May 07, 2013 at 05:36:41PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: On May 07, Paul Tagliamonte paul...@debian.org wrote: No please. We are good about making sure they each mean

Re: 2013 sometimes still feels like 2003 or 1993 (Re: NEW processing during freezes

2013-05-08 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Fri, May 03, 2013 at 04:38:40PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le vendredi 03 mai 2013 à 09:18 +0800, Chow Loong Jin a écrit : While we're at it, can we also have source-only uploads? Uploading potentially huge binary packages that just go to /dev/null seems like a pointless waste

Re: 2013 sometimes still feels like 2003 or 1993 (Re: NEW processing during freezes

2013-05-08 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Fri, May 03, 2013 at 07:11:35PM +0200, Bernhard R. Link wrote: * Holger Levsen hol...@layer-acht.org [130502 12:28]: People do this all the time: upload packages built against local packages, experimental or even on Ubuntu to Debian sid. /me shivers. This hurts. There is no reason

Re: 2013 sometimes still feels like 2003 or 1993 (Re: NEW processing during freezes

2013-05-08 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Sun, May 05, 2013 at 12:18:44AM +0100, Wookey wrote: The harder question is how/when to do that QA. The time to do QA is now and always. Otherwise it just collects and becomes too much. I resisted making the suggestion of doing it by default on all builds as that seemed a step too far,

Re: git as a source package format?

2013-05-06 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Sat, May 04, 2013 at 12:11:23PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Charles Plessy wrote: The fact is that Debian does not make much effort to ensure that we do not distribute unredistributable files in our mirrors and installation media, once a package has

Re: 2013 sometimes still feels like 2003 or 1993 (Re: NEW processing during freezes

2013-05-06 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Sat, May 04, 2013 at 09:33:14PM +0200, Helmut Grohne wrote: On Fri, May 03, 2013 at 04:53:59PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: I think there's a consensus, the problem is who's going to do the work for automating dropping of binaries and rebuild. Not implying that I am the one doing this

Re: NEW processing during freezes

2013-05-02 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 09:44:58AM +0800, Chow Loong Jin wrote: On 23/04/2013 23:15, Thorsten Glaser wrote: Joachim Breitner nomeata at debian.org writes: The (luxury) problem is that I got used to it and began uploading the new (and NEW) dependency bar of package foo along with the new

Re: Bug#706159: ITP: libzmq-libzmq2-perl -- Perl bindings to the libzmq 2.x library

2013-05-02 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 07:09:04PM +0200, Alessandro Ghedini wrote: On gio, apr 25, 2013 at 06:36:39 +0200, Julian Taylor wrote: On 25.04.2013 18:01, Alessandro Ghedini wrote: * Package name: libzmq-libzmq2-perl Version : 1.07 Upstream Author : Daisuke Maki

Re: Bug#706458: ITP: inotify-hookable -- blocking command-line interface to inotify

2013-05-02 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 01:58:58PM +0200, Dominique Dumont wrote: Package: wnpp Owner: Dominique Dumont d...@debian.org Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org * Package name: inotify-hookable Version : 0.7 Upstream Author : ???var Arnfj???r???

Re: NEW processing during freezes

2013-05-02 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Thu, May 02, 2013 at 11:31:54AM +0200, Andreas Beckmann wrote: On 2013-05-02 11:06, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: versioned Build-Depends on the new version. Otherwise all buildds will simply compile the new foo against the old bar and then you have one arch where foo is uninstallable

Re: Bug#706458: ITP: inotify-hookable -- blocking command-line interface to inotify

2013-05-02 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Thu, May 02, 2013 at 04:05:45PM +0200, Dominique Dumont wrote: On Thursday 02 May 2013 11:29:58 Goswin von Brederlow wrote: How is that better than the existing inotify shell tools? What do they lack and why not improve them instead of writing a new one? inotify-hookable main advantage

Re: R 3.0.0 and required rebuilds of all reverse Depends: of R

2013-04-23 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 12:16:11PM +0300, Niko Tyni wrote: On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 10:56:34AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: On Tue, Apr 02, 2013 at 02:28:23PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: Niko Tyni nt...@debian.org writes: FWIW, I've done ABI-incompatible uploads of perl

Re: R 3.0.0 and required rebuilds of all reverse Depends: of R

2013-04-23 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 09:53:05AM +, Sune Vuorela wrote: On 2013-04-18, Goswin von Brederlow goswin-...@web.de wrote: Oh, that's a good point. Yes, I hadn't thought about that specific case for testing ABI breakage in experimental. But then that simply is a broken upload

Re: alternative debian/rules

2013-04-23 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 11:23:51AM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 01:46:20PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 02:28:18PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: % ls -lh debian/rules lrwxrwxrwx 1 mrvn users 1 Apr 16 12:27 debian/rules - /usr/bin/dh

Re: Bug#705879: moreinfo

2013-04-23 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 12:09:49AM +1000, Dmitry Smirnov wrote: On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 17:50:37 Holger Levsen wrote: ah! thanks for summarizing why this is not a bug, but rather a feature (UUIDs for partitions) made for this situation not being used! For the record about a year ago when I

Re: R 3.0.0 and required rebuilds of all reverse Depends: of R

2013-04-18 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Sun, Apr 07, 2013 at 09:29:19PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: On 04/02/2013 09:18 PM, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Actually that hits another problem. Namely that the epoch does not appear in the binary package filename. While wheezy would have 1.2.3-1 and unstable would have 1:1.2.3-1

Re: R 3.0.0 and required rebuilds of all reverse Depends: of R

2013-04-18 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Tue, Apr 02, 2013 at 02:28:23PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: Niko Tyni nt...@debian.org writes: FWIW, I've done ABI-incompatible uploads of perl to experimental in the past without changing the perlapi-* virtual package name or the libperl SONAME. The aim was to experiment with

Re: epoch in filenames for packages (was: Re: R 3.0.0 and required rebuilds of all reverse Depends: of R)

2013-04-18 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 11:04:11AM +0200, Ansgar Burchardt wrote: On 04/18/2013 10:48, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: On Sun, Apr 07, 2013 at 09:29:19PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: On 04/02/2013 09:18 PM, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Actually that hits another problem. Namely that the epoch

Re: Automatically satisfying Build-Depends from local control file

2013-04-18 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 09:19:27PM -0700, Nikolaus Rath wrote: Hello, When downloading a source package from somewhere else, I often find myself in the situation that after.. If by downloading you mean apt-get source foo then the answere is: apt-get build-dep foo Otherwise there isn't a

Re: multiarch and interpreters/runtimes

2013-04-18 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 04:41:35PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: There are maybe not many use cases where you do want to install an interpreter like python or perl for a foreign architecture, but there are some use case where such a setup makes sense. For now I see this limited for architecture

Re: multiarch and interpreters/runtimes

2013-04-18 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 06:15:26PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: Goswin von Brederlow writes (Re: multiarch and interpreters/runtimes): Co-installability of interpreters is generally not planed and would have to be made as custom solutions, i.e. place the interpreter in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux

Re: alternative debian/rules

2013-04-16 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Fri, Apr 05, 2013 at 10:47:39AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: ?? ?? pashev.i...@gmail.com writes: Indeed. So, in any case one can use its own tool just like dh: %: debian/megatool $@ Yes, from a Policy perspective. Although please consider using dh and its

Re: detailed lists with archive contents - more than just Contents

2013-04-16 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 04:48:20PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 9:54 PM, Paul Wise wrote: For duplicate file detection, there is now the Debian duplication detector (still importing the archive): http://dedup.debian.net/ This will soon be linked to from the PTS for

Re: R 3.0.0 and required rebuilds of all reverse Depends: of R

2013-04-16 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Sat, Apr 06, 2013 at 01:08:49PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: Le Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 07:02:15PM -0400, Scott Kitterman a écrit : Depends: r-base-core (= 3.0.0~20130327) , r-base-core ( 4) or you could have an API virtual package: r-base-api-3.0 Hi Dirk and everybody,

Re: R 3.0.0 and required rebuilds of all reverse Depends: of R

2013-04-02 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Mon, Apr 01, 2013 at 01:13:29PM +0100, Neil Williams wrote: On Mon, 1 Apr 2013 17:42:29 +0600 Andrey Rahmatullin w...@wrar.name wrote: On Mon, Apr 01, 2013 at 12:33:15AM -0500, Steve M. Robbins wrote: Thanks for trading the R release cycle with Debian's and for delaying the

Re: multi-tarball packages in version control

2013-03-07 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Tue, Mar 05, 2013 at 03:37:07PM +0100, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Tue, Mar 05, 2013 at 02:03:48PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 09:57:16AM +0100, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: ... I mentioned, I would prefer to keep those files out of my packaging archive

Re: multi-tarball packages in version control

2013-03-05 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 09:57:16AM +0100, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: ... I mentioned, I would prefer to keep those files out of my packaging archive: they hardly change, anyway. So, what do you do with multi-tarball packages? I keep a patched svn-buildpackage, for now. You don't want the extra

Re: RFC declarative built-using field generation

2013-03-05 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Thu, Feb 07, 2013 at 11:11:22PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: Ben Hutchings wrote: What I mean is that a changes file for a sourceful upload has 'source' (and maybe some real architecture names) in the Architecture field. Therefore 'source' cannot be assigned as the name of a real

Accepted ia32-libs 1:0.4 (amd64 i386 source)

2012-11-27 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
...@lists.alioth.debian.org Changed-By: Goswin von Brederlow goswin-...@web.de Closes: 684029 Description: ia32-libs - Transitional package to migrate ia32-libs to multiarch ia32-libs-i386 - Transitional package to migrate ia32-libs to multiarch Changes: ia32-libs (1:0.4) unstable; urgency=low

Accepted ia32-libs-gtk 20120709 (amd64 i386 source)

2012-10-09 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org Changed-By: Goswin von Brederlow goswin-...@web.de Closes: 679145 Description: ia32-libs-gtk-i386 - Transitional package to migrate ia32-libs-gtk to multiarch ia32-libs-gtk - Transitional package to migrate ia32-libs-gtk to multiarch Changes: ia32-libs-gtk

Bug#637232: Multiarch breaks support for non-multiarch toolchain

2012-07-25 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 06:44:58AM -0500, Jonathan Nieder wrote: Hi, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 12:52:10PM -0500, Jonathan Nieder wrote: c) Compatibility wrapper. If someone needs this, feel free to email me and I'll help out however I can. If you

Bug#637232: Multiarch breaks support for non-multiarch toolchain

2012-07-23 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 12:52:10PM -0500, Jonathan Nieder wrote: affects 637232 + release-notes quit Hi, Matthias Klose wrote: On 08/09/2011 07:31 PM, Aurelien Jarno wrote: I got fed up by people reporting bug on libc6, while this problem results from a decision Debian to implement

Re: Finding missing epochs

2012-07-17 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Thu, Jul 05, 2012 at 11:34:28PM +0200, Jakub Wilk wrote: I wrote a tool to detect versioned (build-)dependencies with possible missing (or insufficient) epochs. The results for unstable and a DD-list are attached. The source code is available at:

Re: Audit of Debian/Ubuntu for unfixed vulnerabilities because of embedded code copies

2012-07-17 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Mon, Jul 02, 2012 at 12:27:06PM +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: On 07/02/2012 10:53 AM, Silvio Cesare wrote: Hi, [ ... ] Now some of these cases are going to be false positives. From looking at the results, many of the vulns were probably fixed but have not been reported in the security

Bug#679853: general: Too much downtime during a big dist-upgrade - avoidable with snapshots

2012-07-17 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Mon, Jul 02, 2012 at 08:27:05PM +0600, Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: While it might work for some, there's a much simpler way to minimize daemon downtime: Avoid stopping a daemon in the prerm, and instead restart it in the postinst. Downtime then becomes 1 second per daemon (less than a

Re: Moving changelog and copyright files to control tarball, or merging control and data tarballs ?

2012-07-17 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 09:00:29AM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: Hi! Just to give some context and background, this started with the discussion of binNMUs and multi-arch [0], related to file conflicts due to the coinstallability of multiple M-A:same instances, and while initially a wild idea

Accepted ia32-libs-gtk 20120616 (source amd64)

2012-07-04 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
...@lists.alioth.debian.org Changed-By: Goswin von Brederlow goswin-...@web.de Description: ia32-libs-gtk - Transitional package to migrate ia32-libs-gtk to multiarch ia32-libs-gtk-i386 - Transitional package to migrate ia32-libs-gtk to multiarch Changes: ia32-libs-gtk (20120616) unstable

Accepted ia32-libs 20120701 (source amd64)

2012-07-04 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
...@lists.alioth.debian.org Changed-By: Goswin von Brederlow goswin-...@web.de Description: ia32-libs - Transitional package to migrate ia32-libs to multiarch ia32-libs-i386 - Transitional package to migrate ia32-libs to multiarch Closes: 679671 Changes: ia32-libs (20120701) unstable; urgency=low

Accepted ia32-libs 20120616 (source i386 amd64)

2012-06-30 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
...@lists.alioth.debian.org Changed-By: Goswin von Brederlow goswin-...@web.de Description: ia32-libs-i386 - Transitional package to migrate ia32-libs to multiarch ia32-libs - Transitional package to migrate ia32-libs to multiarch Changes: ia32-libs (20120616) unstable; urgency=low . * Transition

Re: cross-build-essential

2012-06-29 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Simon McVittie s...@debian.org writes: On 28/06/12 10:17, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Say I want to have the build-essential for i386 installed on amd64. I could install build-essential:i386, replacing gcc/g++:amd64 with gcc/g++:i386. Wouldn't that give me everything needed to cross-compile

Re: Future of update-rc.d in wheezy+1

2012-06-28 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net writes: Hi folks, I'd just like to briefly discuss potential plans for update-rc.d in wheezy+1, and how this might impact on file-rc and sysv-rc. sysv-rc has defaulted to using LSB header dependencies and insserv for a few years now. The last few releases

Re: cross-build-essential

2012-06-28 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Wookey woo...@wookware.org writes: +++ Wookey [2012-01-19 14:32 +]: +++ Neil Williams [2012-01-19 13:02 +]: On Thu, 19 Jan 2012 12:10:28 + Wookey woo...@wookware.org wrote: I've thought for a long time that a package like build-essential for cross-building would be a

Anyone using pristine-tar with multiple upstream tarballs?

2012-06-28 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Hi, I'm wondering if anyone is using pristine-tar with multiple upstream tarballs. It seems git-import-orig still doesn't support that. Do you import the tarballs manually or is there another wrapper around pristine-tar to do the work? MfG Goswin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Summary: Moving /tmp to tmpfs makes it useless

2012-06-25 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Wouter Verhelst wou...@debian.org writes: On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 09:54:22PM +0200, Stephan Seitz wrote: On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 11:43:03PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: Meanwhile, you've got a non-FHS directory on your system that is of no immediate use. Your later suggested /store as a

Re: The future (or non-future) of ia32-libs

2012-06-25 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org writes: On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 03:57:29PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: Release notes are meant to be read once, not every time you upgrade a system. Having a debconf note once might be appropriate. The second time, you'll go right, I've seen that before.

Re: Summary: Moving /tmp to tmpfs makes it useless

2012-06-25 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh h...@debian.org writes: On Sun, 24 Jun 2012, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh h...@debian.org writes: I've read that some SSDs really *dislike* the way Linux does TRIM batching (or doesn't :p), so yes, it may well be that on most SSDs

Re: The future (or non-future) of ia32-libs

2012-06-24 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Adam Borowski kilob...@angband.pl writes: On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 01:07:56PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: It has to be held back. But apt-get/aptitude might select a solution where they do get removed rather then hold back many other packages. I'm hoping it will be held back

Re: Summary: Moving /tmp to tmpfs makes it useless

2012-06-24 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh h...@debian.org writes: On Sun, 24 Jun 2012, Osamu Aoki wrote: On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 06:00:15PM +0300, Touko Korpela wrote: Tollef Fog Heen wrote: On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 07:46:57PM +0200, Stephan Seitz wrote: On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 07:12:11PM +0200,

Re: Fwd: ITP: e2defrag -- ext[234] filesystem defragmenter

2012-06-24 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Phillip Susi ps...@ubuntu.com writes: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Phillip Susi ps...@ubuntu.com * Package name: e2defrag Version : 0.79 Upstream Author : Phillip Susi ps...@ubuntu.com * URL : http://launchpad.net/e2defrag * License : GPL

Re: The future (or non-future) of ia32-libs

2012-06-24 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Wouter Verhelst wou...@debian.org writes: On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 09:32:15PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: On 06/22/2012 05:34 PM, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Step 1: upgrade/dist-upgrade with ia32-libs (wine, ...) held back Step 2: dpkg --add-architecture i386 apt-get update Step 3: dist

Re: The future (or non-future) of ia32-libs

2012-06-23 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org writes: On 06/23/2012 02:18 AM, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Problem is that frontends will complain about ia32-libs being not upgradable and might suggest removing it instead of keeping it back way before that. At the time base-file is upgraded ia32-libs and all

RFC: Event based initramfs

2012-06-23 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Hi, a short while ago we had a lively discussion about the problems in initramfs with devices apearing too late (especially USB devices) or crypto/md/lvm/multipath devices being stacked in a way the initramfs scripts wouldn't handle. A simple solution for this problem is to use udev to watch out

Re: Announce: script to automatically restart services after update of dependencies

2012-06-22 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk writes: On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 11:16:51AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk writes: On Tue, 2012-06-19 at 15:29 +0300, Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote: Hello, On 2012-06-19 13:59, Tomas Pospisek wrote: This implies

Re: build-time testing of pure arch:all packages

2012-06-22 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Stefano Zacchiroli z...@debian.org writes: On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 12:29:48AM -0400, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: I was thinking about a bit more automated way... ideally (in the long run) even that FTBFS (e.g. due to failed tests or some other arch specific quirks) would forbid automatic

Re: Is it possible to run autopkgtest without a virtual machine ?

2012-06-22 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org writes: Dear all, I think that the idea behind autopkgtest (DEP 8) is very interesting, and could eventually replace build-time regression tests. To train myself, I tried to implement simple tests for the tabix package. However, adt-run needs a virtual

The future (or non-future) of ia32-libs

2012-06-22 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Hi, two weeks ago we hit a huge milestone with multiarch and wine:i386 became installable on amd64. Last week we hit another milestone so that ia32-libs became mostly installable (it might still want to remove some amd64 packages in the process depending on what you have installed). As a

Re: The future (or non-future) of ia32-libs

2012-06-22 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org writes: On 06/22/2012 05:34 PM, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Step 1: upgrade/dist-upgrade with ia32-libs (wine, ...) held back Step 2: dpkg --add-architecture i386 apt-get update Step 3: dist-upgrade (ia32-libs, wine, ... is now installable) May I suggest

Re: build-time testing of pure arch:all packages

2012-06-22 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Yaroslav Halchenko deb...@onerussian.com writes: On Fri, 22 Jun 2012, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: archive-wide rebuilds of arch:all packages as we routinely do rebuilds of arch:any packages. (Cc:-ing Lucas, for his great work on QA rebuilds.) Are archive wide rebuilds done on anythiong

Re: The future (or non-future) of ia32-libs

2012-06-22 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
m...@linux.it (Marco d'Itri) writes: On Jun 22, Goswin von Brederlow goswin-...@web.de wrote: Step 1: upgrade/dist-upgrade with ia32-libs (wine, ...) held back Step 2: dpkg --add-architecture i386 apt-get update Step 3: dist-upgrade (ia32-libs, wine, ... is now installable) Maybe

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