Re: Bits of the gnome 1.x removal effort

2008-02-11 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Mon, Feb 11, 2008 at 03:43:38PM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote: [...] As a side note, those packages have spurious build-dependencies on gnome1.x libraries (and have no corresponding runtime dependencies), bugs will be filed soon: [...] Also, on a related note, while preparing glotski

Re: New package containing binaries with same name as some from the packages cons, pscan and hsffig.

2007-05-28 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 11:15:31PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: Dear Hwei, Uwe and John, I did not manage to contact you in private (see below), therefore by policy 10.1 I have to move the discussion on debian-devel (copy sent to debian-med). We (the members of the pkg-emboss project on

Re: Bug#311997: ITP: gaim-latex -- gaim plugin wich translate LaTeX code into image in conversation

2005-06-06 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 04:00:47PM -0400, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 08:45:11PM +0200, Martin Braure de Calignon wrote: Le lundi 06 juin 2005 à 14:28 -0400, Anthony DeRobertis a écrit : Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: Ummm, I think you've missed my point. The thread is

Re: Bug#295328: general: Help messages to stderr should be banned

2005-02-15 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Mon, Feb 14, 2005 at 11:06:30PM -0500, Justin Pryzby wrote: [...] I occasionally install a program and need to know how to use it as quickly as possible; for example, while reading through bug reports. So, I run foo --help. Sometimes, the help screen is more than 25 lines long, and it

Re: Tabs v.s. spaces

2003-11-18 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 11:45:52AM +0800, Cameron Patrick wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 08:56:49PM -0500, H. S. Teoh wrote: | Nevertheless, I find 8-space indentation too wasteful, 4-space | indentation too cumbersome to type, and 1-space indentation | unreadable. Your editor should do

Re: Tabs v.s. spaces

2003-11-18 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 11:34:14PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 07:57:46PM -0800, Joshua Kwan wrote: Hear, hear. Yes, 8-space indentation is a matter of pressing the Tab key, but it's a bit too big.. I've always stuck with two spaces. So set your tabstop (and

Re: Tabs v.s. spaces

2003-11-18 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 11:13:46AM -0500, Glenn Maynard wrote: On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 11:00:18AM -0500, H. S. Teoh wrote: VIM can do autoindenting for some languages too. Works OK with Perl, and C, and badly with Tcl (but doesn't everything?). [snip] Generally, I am skeptical

Re: Tabs v.s. spaces

2003-11-18 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 12:26:37PM -0500, Glenn Maynard wrote: On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 06:04:54PM +0100, Florent Rougon wrote: If you are not able to use a programmer's editor, I fail to see how you can even try to argue about the usefulness of Python's whitespace handling. Yay! A

Re: Tabs v.s. spaces

2003-11-18 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 04:41:34PM +, Colin Watson wrote: I swore that I wasn't going to get into the latest style war, but ... On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 10:55:38AM -0500, H. S. Teoh wrote: On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 11:45:52AM +0800, Cameron Patrick wrote: Personally I prefer 8-space

Re: Tabs v.s. spaces

2003-11-18 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 11:04:48AM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: H. S. Teoh wrote: Yeah, 'whitespace' about sums up the value of it. Except to Python programmers, of course. :-P :-P Quite the contrary. First off generally flames are from the uninformed. Since in most cases the evils

Re: Tabs v.s. spaces (was Re: Programming first steps.)

2003-11-17 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 11:47:34AM -0600, Chad Walstrom wrote: [snip] I have a love-hate relationship with the significant whitespace. I have a hate-hate relationship with it. I much prefer free-style syntax where the programmer is allowed to use his best judgment on how to indent the code. Of

Re: Tabs v.s. spaces (was Re: Programming first steps.)

2003-11-17 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 08:07:35PM +, Jonathan Dowland wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 02:19:02PM -0500, H. S. Teoh wrote: For personal pet projects, I use 2 spaces per nesting level. Some people think that's Pure Evil(tm), Most noteably perhaps, Linus Torvalds, although

Re: Tabs v.s. spaces (was Re: Programming first steps.)

2003-11-17 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 02:29:52PM -0600, Chad Walstrom wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 02:19:02PM -0500, H. S. Teoh wrote: Also, as an off-topic note, blank lines that contain tabs or spaces are Pure Evil(tm), especially in code. One of these days I should write a sed script to eliminate

[OT] Re: Tabs v.s. spaces

2003-11-17 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 09:28:29AM +0800, Isaac To wrote: H == H S Teoh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: H That would mean 95% of non-trivial XSLT stylesheets would need to be H rewritten... Or perhaps the XSLT language itself needs to be rewritten. [snip] Yes, that was my hidden motive

Re: Tabs v.s. spaces (was Re: Programming first steps.)

2003-11-17 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 05:14:04PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: H. S. Teoh wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 02:29:52PM -0600, Chad Walstrom wrote: [snip] Python did away with that requirement for scope in 2.x. If you want to use blank lines for code logic separation in python 2.0, you must nest

Re: Programming first steps.

2003-11-17 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 05:47:22PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: [snip] With that said let me give you the biggest hint on learning any vi variant: When in doubt, slap the ESC key. The commands and controls will come in time but all of that doesn't mean a thing if you're in edit mode when

Re: Tabs v.s. spaces

2003-11-17 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 09:43:40AM +0800, Isaac To wrote: [snip] H That's because the terminal settings are b0rked. I personally delete H all programs that cannot cut-n-paste without messing up tabs and H spaces. Unfortunately, this happens a lot on the Winbloxe desktop at H

Re: Bug#214036: im: imput doesn't work with Perl 5.8.1

2003-10-21 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 02:10:15PM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: Hi, Steve Kemp wrote: The following change makes the code work as expected: Your change works as expected, but only because the file has just one line. It's not a general solution. The general solution is not to use $!

Re: developers Japanese and Chinese names' original characters

2003-10-03 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 04:40:57AM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote: Where is a list of Asian developers' names in their original characters? I don't remember entering my name in any such list...? The best I can do right now is e.g. grep /usr/share/edict/enamdict to guess from the romanization.

Re: The size of debian packages

2003-09-25 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 10:34:31PM +0100, Andrew Lyon wrote: [snip] a little to liberally in the past!). How can I find out the sizes of the packages and try to establish what I can remove without disaster. I tried using deborphan to do this but it didn't even put a dent in my 100% full

Re: Virus emails

2003-09-23 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 08:46:15PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 22:44:50 -0400 H. S. Teoh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another major source is rr.com, which not only gives me tons of Swen, but also other spam in general. I've blacklisted rr.com in /etc/hosts.deny, but obviously

Re: Virus emails

2003-09-23 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 02:31:22PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 07:34:58PM -0400, H. S. Teoh wrote: I've resorted to blocking port 25 to subnets from which these spams originate. Currently I have about 45 subnets (/24 and a few /16) on my blacklist, and so far 409

Re: Virus emails

2003-09-22 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 04:53:16PM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: Hi, Mike Hommey wrote: helps catching 95%... But the bandwidth is still used... I'm still looking for a pure MTA solution... A pure MTA solution would still need to scan the body and thus would still eat your

Re: Virus emails

2003-09-22 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 07:18:56PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 19:34:58 -0400 H. S. Teoh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've resorted to blocking port 25 to subnets from which these spams What would help is to be able to block an IP once it's been hit. Thing is I cannot

Re: configure web proxy via DHCP server

2003-08-29 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 12:01:42PM +1000, Brian May wrote: Is this possible? It would be really cool(tm) if I didn't have to reconfigure every program on my laptop to use a different proxy server every time I plug it into a different network. Just venting my irritation for the day...

Re: Release-critical Bugreport for August 8, 2003

2003-08-08 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 06:30:03AM -0500, BugScan reporter wrote: Bug stamp-out list for Aug 8 06:00 (CST) Total number of release-critical bugs: 822 [snip] Whoa, sounds like time for another BSP! T -- The easy way is the wrong way, and the hard way is the stupid way. Pick one.

Re: Should this be filed as grave? Gcc-2.95

2003-08-05 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Tue, Aug 05, 2003 at 07:59:20AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: On Tue, 5 Aug 2003 10:54:38 -0400 Matt Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't compile your kernel with gcc 3.3. I don't know whether the bugs lie in the kernel or in gcc (or both), but this combination does not work correctly.

Re: Should this be filed as grave? Gcc-2.95

2003-08-05 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Tue, Aug 05, 2003 at 08:43:36AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: On Tue, 5 Aug 2003 11:06:26 -0400 H. S. Teoh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you check your compile logs to see if it actually compiled with gcc-2.95 or with just gcc (==3.3) ? It happened to me several times that when building

Re: Debian MIA check

2003-05-13 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 12:11:16PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: [snip] Joost Kooij xbat [snip] FWIW, Joost responded to me last Nov (gee, has it been that long ago already? :-/) for NMU'ing xbat. If he still fails to respond, I could take over the package. T -- Uhh, I'm still not here. --

Re: Why is openoffice in Contrib?

2002-12-10 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 01:40:12PM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote: On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 01:13:13PM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: Secondly, since OpenOffice seems to be GPL'd, I am wondering why it is in contrib instead of main. Build-dependency on Java. [snip] Excuse me for butting in

Re: Why is openoffice in Contrib?

2002-12-10 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 02:38:19PM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote: On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 03:06:10PM -0500, H. S. Teoh wrote: [snip] Excuse me for butting in here, but aren't there GPL'd Java compilers in main already? Or does OpenOffice require a non-DFSG Java compiler? The current build

Intent to NMU: grep

2002-12-10 Thread H. S. Teoh
Package: grep Severity: wishlist Hi Robert, I've applied some of the patches in BTS filed against grep, and have prepared an NMU which fixes the following bugs: #158134, #127438, #93193, #142206, #172524, #45943, #156479. The complete patch for the NMU is attached with this mail. Since you

Re: description writing guide

2002-12-05 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 07:59:20PM -0500, Colin Walters wrote: [snip] Ooh, goody :) Does this mean #45943 will finally be fixed? Well, we obviously can't force anyone to do anything; but I hope that having the reasoning more clearly laid out will motivate people... [snip] Does submitting

Intent to NMU: htget

2002-12-05 Thread H. S. Teoh
Hi Troy, It appears that your Debian package, htget, has not been updated for a long time, and there are some packaging issues with it. I have prepared an NMU of this package (from version 0.94 -- I was unable to find 0.93 and I needed a pristine upstream source to fix bug #44302). This NMU

Re: Porting Xconfigurator to Debian!

2002-12-04 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 11:27:07PM +, Scott James Remnant wrote: On Wed, 2002-12-04 at 23:22, Michael Banck wrote: On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 11:13:18PM +, Scott James Remnant wrote: Dunno how you feel about this, but dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 works quite fine here.

Re: keyserver.debian.org.com

2002-12-03 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 04:53:05PM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: [snip] When it first occurred to someone that this sort of a trick could be played on people to hijack domains, an RFC came out specifying that hostname resolvers should NOT append the local TLD to the requested

Re: Fwd: Please confirm your message

2002-12-02 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Mon, Dec 02, 2002 at 04:39:30PM +0100, Jan Niehusmann wrote: [snip] Time will tell. I fear that some day, the only way to use email productively is to block all email with invalid sender adresses. And I don't know a way do valdiate a (not yet known) address but to try it and send a reply.

Non-DFSG-free package in main

2002-12-02 Thread H. S. Teoh
I just noticed that 'heyu' is non-free, at least according to bug #149128. Shouldn't this bug be upgraded to serious, at least? (We shouldn't be shipping it in sarge if it's non-free.) T -- Why is a river rich? 'cos it has two banks. pgpR5R4ad4PdM.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Non-DFSG-free package in main

2002-12-02 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Mon, Dec 02, 2002 at 07:47:18PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote: On Mon, Dec 02, 2002 at 01:19:47PM -0500, H. S. Teoh wrote: I just noticed that 'heyu' is non-free, at least according to bug #149128. Shouldn't this bug be upgraded to serious, at least? What are you waiting for? :) [snip

Re: Pick a name, any name...

2002-11-27 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 11:03:58AM +0100, Roland Mas wrote: [snip] - Another idea I had was something along the lines of Debsmith or Iansmith, to keep both the idea of Debian and the idea of the forge. Unfortunately, plenty of people are called that way. Any idea to improve that line is

Re: testing not getting updated?

2002-11-27 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 09:16:13AM +0530, Ganesan R wrote: Hi, Has any one else noticed that testing is not getting updated. According to http://ftp-master.debian.org/testing/update_excuses.html.gz, the last run was on Nov 20th. If this is intentional, I don't remember seeing any mail

Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-26 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Tue, Nov 26, 2002 at 01:41:21PM -0500, Matt Zimmerman wrote: [snip] No, it doesn't. It shows that the most frequently viewed distribution pages on distrowatch.com are: 1) Mandrake 2) Red Hat 3) Gentoo 4) Debian And the sample size is approximately 56000 page views. [snip] And with

Intent to NMU: dvidvi

2002-11-26 Thread H. S. Teoh
I've tried to contact David A. van Leeuwen via two email addresses that are listed on BTS and db.d.o, regarding a possible NMU of his package, dvidvi. However, both emails bounced. Should I just go ahead and upload the NMU? T -- Always remember that you are unique. Just like everybody else. --

Re: Why do system users have shells?

2002-11-25 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 12:10:44PM -0700, James Hamilton wrote: I'm curious why system users such as bin, sys, and nobody have /bin/sh as a shell instead of a noshell program or /bin/false. [snip] Possibly because otherwise, you cannot run any shell scripts as that user. (This may also

Re: Why do system users have shells?

2002-11-25 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 09:53:22PM +0100, Russell Coker wrote: On Mon, 25 Nov 2002 20:39, H. S. Teoh wrote: On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 12:10:44PM -0700, James Hamilton wrote: I'm curious why system users such as bin, sys, and nobody have /bin/sh as a shell instead of a noshell program

Re: Why do system users have shells?

2002-11-25 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 10:42:34PM +0100, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 04:34:52PM -0500, H. S. Teoh wrote: But there are programs that don't use su -s. E.g., custom logins (non-anonymous) from wu-ftpd will fail if the login shell is set to /bin/false. You can add /bin

Re: Why do system users have shells?

2002-11-25 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 11:24:54PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote: On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 04:34:52PM -0500, H. S. Teoh wrote: But there are programs that don't use su -s. E.g., custom logins (non-anonymous) from wu-ftpd will fail if the login shell is set to /bin/false. Why do you want to use

Re: Why do system users have shells?

2002-11-25 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 06:32:13PM -0500, H. S. Teoh wrote: [snip] Now that somebody mentioned it -- will /bin/true work, or is that a wishlist feature? [snip] Oops, nevermind that. That'll teach me to respond before I read. :-P T -- MAS = Mana Ada Sistem?

Re: New maintainer process

2002-11-22 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 02:54:17PM +, Colin Watson wrote: [snip] Never underestimate the power of Google's cache. :-) [snip] Real men don't take backups. They put their source on a public FTP-server and let the world mirror it. -- Linus Torvalds ;-) T -- The peace of mind--from knowing

Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-22 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 08:23:09PM +0100, Eduard Bloch wrote: #include hallo.h * Branden Robinson [Fri, Nov 22 2002, 10:34:21AM]: On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 02:20:04AM -0800, Jim Lynch wrote: (1) Why are you blatently insulting people on the lists?? Why are you blatanly misspelling

Pathological case for Debian packages search page

2002-11-21 Thread H. S. Teoh
This package: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/editors/the.html never shows up when you search for the in http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages I assume it's because the search engine ignores common words like the :-) Also, because the BTS uses the search engine to link to

Accepted smurf 0.52.6-2 (i386 source)

2002-11-19 Thread H. S. Teoh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 14:30:02 -0500 Source: smurf Binary: smurf Architecture: source i386 Version: 0.52.6-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: H. S. Teoh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: smurf

Accepted smurf 0.52.6-3 (i386 source)

2002-11-19 Thread H. S. Teoh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 21:55:28 -0500 Source: smurf Binary: smurf Architecture: source i386 Version: 0.52.6-3 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: H. S. Teoh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: smurf

library build problems

2001-09-02 Thread H. S. Teoh
Hi all, I'm the maintainer of the libsndfile package, and I've noticed that there's been an NMU to fix a build problem. (Sorry for being absent ... got a job and have a lot less free time now.) Anyway, there's a new release, and I tried to update the package (from the NMU version) but now I'm

Re: RFC: moving packages to project/orphaned

2000-09-04 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 12:56:59AM +0200, Enrique Robledo Arnuncio wrote: On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 06:55:16PM +0200, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: The follwing packages need a new maintainer: ... mctools-lite (69638), 12 days old ... rosegarden (68189), 33 days old ... My sponsor

Testing packages: Smurf and libsndfile

2000-08-31 Thread H. S. Teoh
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