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cas où l'auteur
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Le lundi 16 octobre 2006 15:26, Joey Hess a écrit :
Ottavio Caruso wrote:
PS: Can't we just rename it '93r8d9yad4l260ud.lite'? It's easier to
remember!
I prefer d6a5c9544eca9b5ce2266d1c34a93222, or possibly
acb943ac7d07d80a71fa271962df81e944bae3b7.
Git hater ? :-)
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Guidelines, http://people.debian.org/~enrico/dcg/.
Comment oses-tu proposer d'ôter aux gens le plaisir de démolir les
autres en public ?!!!
Tu n'y songes pas, voyons !
Pour ma part, un CBC ne me poserait aucun problème.
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Andreas,
The split has already been done for emacs21 and is beeing tested. There is
not much work left.
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It has been integrated into git since 1.4.x.
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If I say no and it fails will you kill me?
Of course not :-)
There are always risks on updates.
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# optimaly there should be none
grep-dctrl -P Unofficial yes -s Package,Version /var/lib/dpkg/status
Thanks for the tip.
BTW, are there some risks for it to be destructive? ;-P
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prise
en compte des renommages de fichiers lors des merges (reporté
après 1.0).
Encore une fois, ce sont des critères qui me sont très personnels.
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vraiment
au point. Je crois que ça ne fait que 2 ou 3 mois que
git marche vraiment bien (par exemple que les tags des
versions sont transmis automatiquement par «git pull»)
et que la doc est devenue compréhensible.
Merci de ton retour d'expérience.
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expérience avec ces trois SCM?
Merci.
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Julien Danjou [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Tue, Apr 11, 2006 at 04:23:04PM +0200, Jérôme Marant wrote:
mercurial: efficace, interface simple, écrit en python
Mais: pas de support merge+rename, pas de partage efficace par HTTP
sauf via un serveur défié
Les checkout sont aussi tres
Raphael Hertzog [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Tue, 11 Apr 2006, Jérôme Marant wrote:
git/cogito: efficace, partage efficace par HTTP via packed objects,
référentiel très compact
C'est vrai référentiel très compact ? De ce que j'avais compris, git a
commencé comme un simple archivage
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Le Mar 11 Avril 2006 16:23, Jérôme Marant a écrit :
Bonjour,
Ca fait déjà quelque temps que je teste des systèmes de contrôle
de version (SCM) distribués mais je n'arrive pas à me fixer sur
un en particulier (le sujet n'est pas ici le pour ou contre
s'attendre à des miracles ;)
Entièrement d'accord.
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indispensable qu'on ait un bon DPL pour essayer
de résoudre les problèmes internes que l'on rencontre (et j'en ai
découvert un certain nombre depuis quelque temps).
Comment faire pour voter blanc ? Envoyer un bulletin dont toutes les
cases sont vides ?
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Comment faire pour voter blanc ? Envoyer un bulletin dont toutes les
cases sont vides ?
Si c'est accepté oui, sinon mettre la même valeur dans toutes les cases.
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politiciens, tous les mêmes de toute façon
Dans la vraie vie, en France, ça a donné avril (et mai...) 2002.
Tu devrais dire ca va donner avril 2007 ;-)
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On 10604 March 1977, Jérôme Marant wrote:
The simplest way I can see is to take the pristine tarball and rename
to foo-non-free of foo-non-dfsg, and to just install what was removed
from the modified tarball in main. However, the Emacs tarball is
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that have a real Depends: or
Recommends: dependency on a non-free package.
If there isn't any reason for ndiswrapper to depends on a non-free
package, then there is no reason to move it to contrib.
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?
Ce qui donnerait : binutils [i386 x86_64]
C'est « amd64 » au lieu de « x86_64 ».
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On Tue, Feb 14, 2006 at 12:30:14AM +0100, Jérôme Marant wrote:
Bonsoir,
J'ai bien compris les positions des uns et des autres, mais il y a
quelque chose qui me chiffonne dans les positions de certaines
personnes, notamment Sven.
D'un côté
Quoting Josselin Mouette [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Le mardi 14 février 2006 à 09:51 +0100, Jérôme Marant a écrit :
Si je me souviens bien, c'est toi qui fais des pieds et des mains pour
garder dans main des textes non libres fournis avec les sources d'emacs.
Donc d'un côté, tu veux exterminer
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Quoting Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Tue, Feb 14, 2006 at 01:46:00PM +0100, Jérôme Marant wrote:
Quoting Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Oui. Ce n'est pas moi qui dit que ces textes sont non libres, il me
semble.
Et fondamentalement au fond de toi meme, tu est 100% sur
non libres, ils
sont le plus souvent non-redistribuables.
J'ai du mal à en voir la raison.
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Josselin Mouette [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Le mardi 14 février 2006 à 17:58 +0100, Jérôme Marant a écrit :
Par contre il y a une forte augmentation des cartes nécessitant de
charger un firmware. Mais bon ces firmwares ont toujours été non-libres,
c'est juste qu'ils sont sur le disque dur
que ça va finir par arriver. De toute façon, Emacs a des
sections invariantes donc on va être obligé de mettre la doc
dans non-free. Autant tout mutualiser.
Ce n'est pas que ça m'enchante mais je compte me ranger derrière toute
décision quelle qu'elle soit.
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Le problème de ces firmwares c'est qu'en plus d'être non libres, ils
sont le plus souvent non-redistribuables.
J'ai du mal à en voir la raison.
Exemple pratique: le
vue une gymnastique plutôt inutile et rebutante pour l'utilateur.
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pas regarder les choses avec un peu
de parcimonie ?
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pourquoi on aurait le droit à
certains « arrangements » d'un côté, et pas de l'autre.
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agree that it makes sense to be able to freely modify documentation because
modifying programs often means changing their documentation accordingly.
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and I'm all against breaking
the law. Either you respect rules or you leave.
The only way to fix this is to change the rules.
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Jérôme Marant [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Prior to GFDL, GNU Manuals used to have the same kinds of restrictions
like invariant sections but noone has ever battled for moving them
to non-free. Then came GFDL and people suddenly decided to change
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That was a 3:1 majority out of 200 voters, considering that Debian
counts almost 1000 developers and considering that many pros are
convinced they have been deceived.
Who, please?
Me, at least. I did
your right to prove me wrong. :)
I'll try to stay civil at least :-)
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The only people it made happy are extremists.
Oh, so I am extremist now. By believing that all bits
modifiable by the computer are software? And the overwhelming
Yes, I think it is an extreme
to them seriously, evaluating what they
say, and so forth, rather than just declaring them idiots, calling
them fundamentalists, and complaining about voting procedures.
Why rather than? I'd say before instead.
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For instance, how does shipping Emacs with verbatim essays from RMS, the GNU
Manifesto, and any other stuffs like that makes it non-free? Will removing
them make Debian more free? I doubt anyone is going
Thomas Bushnell BSG [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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Would you please tell me how necessary it is to modify RMS essays, the
GNU Manifesto, and so on, and how removing them from Emacs will make
Debian more free? I'm afraid it sounds ideological.
Actually
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Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On 11 Feb 2006, Jérôme Marant outgrape:
Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On 9 Feb 2006, Jérôme Marant spake thusly:
The only people it made happy are extremists.
Oh, so I am extremist now. By believing that all bits
modifiable
Quoting Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 12:16:43PM +0100, Jérôme Marant wrote:
Quoting Marco d'Itri [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Well, maybe the people who mislabeled the everything is software vote
as an editorial change and deceived many other developers should have
shall Running of the Mouth on mailing lists.
Sorry, I don't get it.
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of the silliness it leads to. You won't be surprised
to see the same fundamentalists as involved in debian-legal crusades.
I'd propose to revert this and clearly define what software is.
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wording that can lead us to accept non-free documentation into main.
This may be annoying for you, but it's a fact that there is an
interpretation of the old wording which has been used for years to
accept non-free documentation into main.
How is this relevant?
Consistency?
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Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Thu, 09 Feb 2006, Jérôme Marant wrote:
Quoting Marco d'Itri [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Well, maybe the people who mislabeled the everything is software vote
as an editorial change and deceived many other developers should have
tought about
invariant sections but noone has ever battled for moving them
to non-free. Then came GFDL and people suddenly decided to change
the de facto rules. This is the kind of consistency I'm talking
about (whether invariant sections should be allowed or not).
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GR) didn't even reach the 3:1 quorum.
Whatever. Extrapolating would be a fallacy.
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dpkg-gencontrol`.
Use dpkg-parsechangelog along with sed to get the upstream from
the debian version.
Then use dpkg-gencontrol -VUpstream-Version=$(upstream_version)
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to be declassified will be made available to
developers two weeks before publication, so that the decisions
Two weeks is too short to review, IMO.
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Simon Richter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hello,
Jérôme Marant wrote:
What is this supposed to mean? If no comments have been made by the
author for eight weeks, messages will be automatically declassified?
It looks like a kind of opt out to me.
True. It may be an idea to have another
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packages have not been build on
our systems.
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Lionel Elie Mamane [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Fri, Nov 18, 2005 at 03:09:03PM +0100, Jérôme Marant wrote:
Quoting Joerg Jaspert [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Jérôme Marant schrieb:
Is it currently possible to upload amd64 packages to ftp-master?
No.
If not, is there any upload queue dedicated
to implement a solution.
Considering that a growing number of developers own AMD64 systems,
wouldn't it be better to setup a temporary solution, like an
amd64 upload queue?
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Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Fri, Nov 18, 2005 at 03:10:37PM +0100, Jérôme Marant wrote:
Quoting Florian Weimer [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
* Jérôme Marant:
Is it currently possible to upload amd64 packages to ftp-master?
amd64 is not yet part of the archive. It depends on the so
Hi,
Is it currently possible to upload amd64 packages to ftp-master?
If not, is there any upload queue dedicated at them?
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Quoting Joerg Jaspert [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Jérôme Marant schrieb:
Is it currently possible to upload amd64 packages to ftp-master?
No.
Well. Yes. Of course you can upload. They just get rejected. :)
Not good. What is missing to get this fixed?
If not, is there any upload queue dedicated
Quoting Florian Weimer [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
* Jérôme Marant:
Is it currently possible to upload amd64 packages to ftp-master?
amd64 is not yet part of the archive. It depends on the so-called
mirror split.
I guess so, but I haven't seen any status update about this.
Are there even people
The Right Thing (TM) with merges more frequently than arch stuff.
www.darcs.net.
Hogs Powah!
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Hélas.
http://fr.news.yahoo.com/050706/308/4hpi9.html
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, petits developpeurs de
base (interpréter: non root sur les machines du projet).
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Quoting Christian Perrier [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Comment y allez-vous at à quel prix ?
German Wings.
Merci pour les informations.
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sais que veulent y aller:
Denis Barbier
Sven Luther
Nicolas François
moi-même
J'ai comme l'intuition que Sam Hocevar va bien réussir à venir, mais
qui d'autre encore?
Comment y allez-vous at à quel prix ?
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Description : Impulse Tracker clone
Wow. It reminds me the old days of Demo parties :-)
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Steinar H. Gunderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Sun, May 22, 2005 at 02:12:27PM +0200, Jérôme Marant wrote:
Wow. It reminds me the old days of Demo parties :-)
The old days? Those still exist :-)
Yes, but the original spirit has gone.
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pouvoir
s'accomoder de n'importe quel langage. :-)
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where my mouth is.
Bragging.
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Patrice KARATCHENTZEFF [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
essaie le nouvel installateur, tu seras surpris.
Mais quitte à troller, je pense que le troll n'est pas là-dessus mais
quand Sarge sortira.
Pas la peine d'attendre Sarge, il y a Ubuntu maintenant :-)
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can start working on
on the next release.
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Selon Eduard Bloch [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
#include hallo.h
* Jérôme Marant [Fri, Oct 22 2004, 10:20:51AM]:
Some improvements have already been proposed by Eduard Bloch and
Adrian Bunk: freezing unstable while keeping testing.
Jerome, please, you could have asked me. I prepare an internal GR
bugs. There were pretest cycles with bug horizons,
and freezes were shorter.
Of course, without testing, synchronizing arches was a pain,
that's why I'd say let's combine both.
Instead of always telling than a given idea won't work, let's
try it and conclude afterwards.
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pas accès à /dev/null, j'ai des erreurs de permission
non accordée.
Excuses-moi de ne pas répondre à ta question, mais est-ce que ce n'est
pas pbuilder dont tu as besoin?
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. Tu es dans la liste des développeurs du projet.
Pour ne t'adresses-tu pas à ces mêmes développeurs, directement ?
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vais choquer
personne, mais il me semble que Jésus (idéaliste) a donné le
Christianisme; les dévos (intégristes) ont donné dans la barbaries!..
Enfin, faites moi tout de même savoir si je suis à côté de la plaque pour
Je te le fais savoir.
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manque que les sociétés
préfèrent prendre RedHat ou SuSE (ce que j'observe actuellement
dans mon travail).
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) dans le lien « Editer les clefs » de la page de gestion de
mon compte ?
Sans répondre à ta question, pourquoi ne pas copier/coller la clé à
la souris, puis enlever les retours chariot inutiles ? C'est comme
cela que je procède.
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ce
qui concerne les activités d'administration/maintenance
Et il y a aussi des gens qui mettent leurs clés privées sur des machines
où elles ne devraient jamais être, et qui donnent du boulot aux admins
des dites machines quand les clés ont été compromises.
SCNR :-)
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Quoting Christian Perrier [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Quoting Jérôme Marant ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
Et il y a aussi des gens qui mettent leurs clés privées sur des machines
où elles ne devraient jamais être, et qui donnent du boulot aux admins
des dites machines quand les clés ont été compromises
,
emacs20. No outside reverse depends.
No, the speedbar package is a more recent version than the one
provided by emacs21. So, speedbar shall not be removed.
Before asking for their removal, you need to do that same checkings for
every package shipped outside of Emacs as well.
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ftp.debian.org.
AFAIK, Rob doesn't want to maintain it anymore since Emacs21 has been
around for more than two years now and he doesn't want to spend time
in fixing bugs that have already been fixed in Emacs 21.
So, there isn't any problem in removing it.
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Quoting Santiago Vila [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Jérôme Marant wrote:
Quoting Matt Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 06:33:52PM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote:
I'm curious, for instance, as to why emacs20 hasn't managed to be
removed
yet
supporting emacs20, do we need
to change dependencies of every package alternatively depending on emacs20
(like emacs20 | emacs21 etc)?
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Selon Christian Perrier [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Quoting Jérôme Marant ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
C'est dommage que tu tentes de détourner le contexte.
Je ne remets pas en cause le fait de laisser tomber boot-floppies,
mais plutôt celui de ne pas essayer de récupérer des installateurs
existants
partitionnement graphique mais on ne peut même pas
l'intégrer pour cette raison.
Enfin, ceux qui inventent des installateurs alternatifs ont tous
tord et c'est mal de ne pas aider Debian-installer parce que
debian-installer is the way to go !
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it does. At least, it used to work for one of my packages
last year.
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:-)))
On voit ça :-)
D'ailleurs, j'ai trouvé cette bizzarerie dans les en-tètes de
ton message :
Content-Type: text/plain; charset*=utf-8 ''utf-8%C2%A0
Ca vient de moi ?
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on debian-legal.
I tend to agree with John Goerzen, see Inconsistencies in our approach
thread.
Branden's survey is misleading and assumes that documentation is
software. It is unfair and doesn't count.
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Quoting Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 12:18:10PM +0200, Jérôme Marant wrote:
We musn't let the bigots decide for us! ;-)
Thanks for excusing yourself from the discussion thus.
Where has you sense of humour gone?
More seriously, I do not consider
use darn cabal of debian-legal zealots next time.
cu and- triple reading the original mail, stil smiling -reas
Ah! There is at least someone in this project with some sense of
humour.
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you think such an expression would provoke the same emotional
response? ;-)
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Quoting Peter S Galbraith [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Jérôme Marant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Quoting Scott James Remnant [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
No he wouldn't. FDL is about free documentation. :-)
Except it isn't :-)
According to you :-)
According to debian-legal consensus
please move along now?
Just don't read the thread.
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be a majority among the
debian-legal zealots, but we need a consensus among Debian as a
whole (which means voting of course).
We musn't let the bigots decide for us! ;-)
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