Re: Debian 2.1r3

1999-09-17 Thread Josip Rodin
On Fri, Sep 17, 1999 at 07:53:06AM -0700, David Bristel wrote: The current `sub-release' (whatever) of Debian 2.1 is r3, right? I was just wondering, as all references on the web site are to r2, but I thought I received a message from the security team about r3 last week somtime. Just

Re: Too many kernels in unstable

1999-09-17 Thread Josip Rodin
Guy Maor wrote: What about just keeping the last 2.0.x and the last 2.2.x ? I agree. One 2.0.x, one 2.2.x, eventually one 2.[34].x version. This has been discussed before, people agreed that there's too much of the kernel packages in there. You're the FTP admin, please act. Brian Mays wrote:

Re: Adoption of the FHS

1999-05-26 Thread Josip Rodin
On Wed, May 26, 1999 at 12:04:53AM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: Yes you may :) GNU info has been set to read its files from that directory since long time ago, IIRC before hamm. No, it's not in policy yet. Sorry, I meant to say yes you can. But it should become policy soon, so that

Re: Source-depends?

1999-05-26 Thread Josip Rodin
On Wed, May 26, 1999 at 01:46:41PM +0200, Sven LUTHER wrote: So, what's the problem? We don't autodetect all of binary dependencies either. Maintainers generally know what they need to build their packages; it should be trivial for them to list the dependencies explicitly!

Re: An 'ae' testimony

1999-05-26 Thread Josip Rodin
On Wed, May 26, 1999 at 01:38:11PM +0200, Sven LUTHER wrote: no, but vi as been standard unix editor since times immemorial, and people expect to find it on any unix system. The boot disk is not a system at all - it is crippled in every way. And we don't have a vi that would fit in 25KB. --

Re: An 'ae' testimony

1999-05-26 Thread Josip Rodin
On Wed, May 26, 1999 at 01:31:15PM +0200, Sven LUTHER wrote: remove this help stuff, and have just some sort of help binding that will bring it up. That would be nicer, and let more space for editign. That's okay too, as long as it is clearly written (e.g. like in joe, Ctrl-K H for help).

Re: Source-depends?

1999-05-26 Thread Josip Rodin
On Wed, May 26, 1999 at 06:40:09PM +0300, Fabrizio Polacco wrote: Of course, these are all very nice ideas... but we currently don't have any PLACE to put the list (where it'll get used by dpkg* tools), whether it is manually or automatically generated! IIRC Ben Collins had made a

Re: glibc 2.1 machine for debian developers?

1999-05-26 Thread Josip Rodin
On Wed, May 26, 1999 at 07:42:35PM +0300, Amos Shapira wrote: Not daring to upgrade my machines to glibc 2.1 yet for lack of stability, I was hoping I'll be able to upgrade my package on master.debian.org but now see that it is also based on glibc 2.0. Is there any debian glibc 2.1 machine

Re: Adoption of the FHS

1999-05-25 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, May 24, 1999 at 12:53:51PM +0100, Edward Betts wrote: Can I upload packages with the /usr/info - /usr/share/info modification? Yes you may :) GNU info has been set to read its files from that directory since long time ago, IIRC before hamm. Can I upload packages with the /usr/man -

Re: Adoption of the FHS

1999-05-25 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, May 24, 1999 at 09:24:48PM -0400, James R. Van Zandt wrote: Can I upload packages with the /usr/info - /usr/share/info modification? Yes you may :) GNU info has been set to read its files from that directory since long time ago, IIRC before hamm. Okay, then I propose that we next

Re: Adoption of the FHS

1999-05-25 Thread Josip Rodin
On Tue, May 25, 1999 at 07:48:54AM +0100, Edward Betts wrote: Can I upload packages with the /usr/info - /usr/share/info modification? Yes you may :) GNU info has been set to read its files from that directory since long time ago, IIRC before hamm. Can I upload packages with the

Re: An 'ae' testimony

1999-05-23 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sun, May 23, 1999 at 10:10:56AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: it's more that when you're in a hurry trying to fix some system that has gone down you don't have time to mess around learning some stupid editor which doesn't do any of the things you need it to do. being restricted to a

Re: Source-depends?

1999-05-23 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sun, May 23, 1999 at 03:07:19AM +0300, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: Some of these can be detected automatically (#5 could be discovered with a grep on debian/rules, for example), but some can't. So, what's the problem? We don't autodetect all of binary dependencies either.

Re: An 'ae' testimony

1999-05-23 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sun, May 23, 1999 at 11:13:29AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: Well, what can the bootdisk makers say about that, but - who cares?! I use joe all the time, but I do not complain that the boot disk doesn't contain it, and that I am restricted to a primitive editor and I have to think about

Re: An 'ae' testimony

1999-05-23 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sun, May 23, 1999 at 01:46:18AM -0700, Joseph Carter wrote: This, FYI, is why I sopped using joe. Not only is it buggy if used from a buggy terminal emulator like windoze telnet, it had occasional bugs running in an xterm (not screen display, but failure to reset the terminal properly

Re: An 'ae' testimony

1999-05-23 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sun, May 23, 1999 at 01:20:11PM +0200, Guenther Thomsen wrote: you are also making the mistake of assuming that joe is in any way a standard tool. it is not. the only two text editors which can lay claim to being a standard part of any unix are ed and vi. On a rescue disk you

Re: An 'ae' testimony

1999-05-22 Thread Josip Rodin
On Fri, May 21, 1999 at 02:57:26PM -0700, Joseph Carter wrote: ae barely even WORKS! it's crap in every other mode, it's just crap! = _PICO_ is a more functional editor than ae, at least it works. toss ae, and get something that functions. From what I've seen, ae functions perfectly. It

Re: Intent to package: gtk-doc

1999-05-22 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 12:08:00AM +0100, Steve Haslam wrote: gtk-doc is the upstream name, but a more distinct name may be preferred to distinguish it from gtk+-docs, libgtk1.2-doc, gnome-docu, gnome-dev-info... Perhaps gtk-doc-tools ? Maybe keep the source called gtk-doc and call the binary

Re: An 'ae' testimony

1999-05-22 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 12:16:26AM +0100, Edward Betts wrote: Joe might also be a good option because of its wordstar-esque keys. I HATE wordstar key binds, so does everybody else. ~~ This part of the sentence is completely absurd. --

Re: An 'ae' testimony

1999-05-22 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 11:23:54AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: joe is not discontinued upstream. Joe Allen just hasn't worked on it in 3+ years as he worked on other things. Recent posts from him on comp.editors suggests that he is going to start working on joe again. That's great news!

Re: A joe testimony (was: an 'ae' testimony)

1999-05-22 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 12:07:59PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: That's great news! Eh, until I see a new version from JA I'm not holding my breath. :) Of course... :( It is THE worst editor to use when you have a terminal with any kind of illness (and that is my most common situation, for

Re: Bug#38057: general: libgtop0: Depends: libglib1.1.13 (= 1.1.13-1) but it is not installable

1999-05-21 Thread Josip Rodin
On Fri, May 21, 1999 at 12:00:20AM +0200, Martin Bialasinski wrote: JM libgtop0 should be removed from the archive; it is obselete and JM replaced by libgtop1. gnome-utils 0.99.3-1 depends on it -- but JM gnome-utils 0.99.3-1 is also obselete, but I cannot find a JM replacement, even though I

Re: telnet98_98.02.16.orig.tar.gz is wrong

1999-05-21 Thread Josip Rodin
On Fri, May 21, 1999 at 07:41:20PM +0100, Ian Lynagh wrote: I don't know which (pseudo-)package I should submit to, so I post it to this list. I e-mailed this to a couple of people but got no response. I am no longer the maintainer of this package, but no-one has yet taken it over. Should

Re: request to kill nag messages

1999-05-19 Thread Josip Rodin
On Wed, May 19, 1999 at 12:35:27PM -0400, Dale Scheetz wrote: No one needs to take on that job, as the BTS already reports all open bugs twice a week to every developer. It does? It sure didn't send that anything like that to me... -- enJoy -*/\*- http://jagor.srce.hr/~jrodin/

Re: stupid idea - metapackages

1999-05-19 Thread Josip Rodin
On Wed, May 19, 1999 at 04:40:14PM -0500, Oleg Krivosheev wrote: looking into GNOME i got some (maybe stupid) idea: what about creating empty packages only to satisfy dependancies and be able to install loosy related set of packages. Metapackage seems to be the right name for such creature

Re: Old Library dependencies Re: Release Plans (19990513)

1999-05-17 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, May 17, 1999 at 11:36:41AM +0200, Hartmut Koptein wrote: Remove as many dependencies on old libraries as possible, this includes: libjpegg6a, libncurses3.4, newt0.25, libpgsql, tk4.2, tcl7.6, libwraster1, libpng0g and various older gtk/gnome libraries.

possible new package: tpqic02-support

1999-05-16 Thread Josip Rodin
Hi, While I was packaging hwtools, I stumbled across a program to set up QIC-02 cards, qic02conf. It is included in hwtools, but it doesn't have much documentation. I've found the upstream source, it was on Metalab (Sunsite), and thought that it would be nice if someone would package the whole

Re: Bug#34579: Removing ncsa from the dist?

1999-05-16 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sun, May 16, 1999 at 10:26:18AM -0400, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote: Boa is nice as well, but has too many open bugs, and the maintainer never ever seems to respond. Unfortunately, that would mean that boa is not maintained upstream, because Jon Nelson is also the upstream maintainer :( --

Re: jdk117v3 package?

1999-05-15 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sat, May 15, 1999 at 01:07:26AM +0100, Edward Betts wrote: Easy solution, buy one of those non-free Debian CDs, with the bits of non-free they can shove on a CD on. Loads of vendors do them. No, the non-freeness isn't the problem with this version. FTP admin said that licence says that we

Re: jdk117v3 package?

1999-05-14 Thread Josip Rodin
On Thu, May 13, 1999 at 04:14:00PM -0700, Sudhakar Chandrasekharan wrote: a new version of jdk117 from blackdown (v3) has been released. apparently, the problems with glibc2.1 have been resolved, though i haven't checked this out myself. is anybody working on packaging it? can i

Re: Release Plans (1999-05-10)

1999-05-14 Thread Josip Rodin
On Thu, May 13, 1999 at 09:07:14AM -0700, Brent Fulgham wrote: I think you should look in http://va.debian.org/~bfulgham/ and download the version of mozilla that is (hopefully) still there. If it works, and if more people agree with it, I'll put it in potato. The only problem I had with

Re: debian-upload-queue in Japan (Re: Homapages in list of maintainers)

1999-05-14 Thread Josip Rodin
On Fri, May 14, 1999 at 05:29:28AM +0900, Taketoshi Sano wrote: How is the other nicname chiark, elrangen, and giano named ? Are they named after the name of the location ? The machines had those names in their FQDNs, ftp.uni-erlangen.de, chiark.greenend.ac.uk, giano.com.dist.unige.it. --

Re: Release Plans (1999-05-10)

1999-05-14 Thread Josip Rodin
On Fri, May 14, 1999 at 12:02:32PM +0200, Sven LUTHER wrote: Everything seems to build fine according to Tinderbox. Let's try another build Josip and see how it works out. If we can't get it to build cleanly, I will pull CVS over my phone line at home and try building on my Potato

Re: Release Plans (1999-05-10)

1999-05-14 Thread Josip Rodin
On Fri, May 14, 1999 at 12:23:14PM +0200, Sven LUTHER wrote: What about non i386 builds ? What about them? The upload will contain source, and you'll be perfectly free to recompile it :) Yes, ... but mozilla is pretty big, 17MB i think, so the compile will use lots of disk space

Re: jdk117v3 package?

1999-05-14 Thread Josip Rodin
On Fri, May 14, 1999 at 01:35:19PM +0100, Vincent Murphy wrote: It is already in Incoming. It was rejected from it (see Incoming/REJECT), because of some no-distribution clause in the licence. ok. i'm just wondering how SuSE and anybody else who gives it out on CDs gets away with

Re: debian-upload-queue in Japan

1999-05-14 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sat, May 15, 1999 at 12:26:09AM +0900, Taketoshi Sano wrote: The machines had those names in their FQDNs, ftp.uni-erlangen.de, chiark.greenend.ac.uk, giano.com.dist.unige.it. uhm,,, the FQDN of the new upload-queue host is master.debian.or.jp,,, Do you feel that debian-jp is

Re: Release Plans (1999-05-10)

1999-05-13 Thread Josip Rodin
On Thu, May 13, 1999 at 01:13:10PM +0200, Richard Braakman wrote: mozilla should work for potato Maybe it will ;) We'll try. If it doesn't, I guess the current mozilla should be removed? It's sort of old now, and it doesn't work with glibc 2.1. I was kidding - newer mozilla

Re: Release Plans (1999-05-10)

1999-05-13 Thread Josip Rodin
On Thu, May 13, 1999 at 10:12:46PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: mozilla should work for potato Maybe it will ;) We'll try. If it doesn't, I guess the current mozilla should be removed? It's sort of old now, and it doesn't work with glibc 2.1. I was kidding - newer

Re: Uploading to pandora (nonus)

1999-05-12 Thread Josip Rodin
On Wed, May 12, 1999 at 12:38:36PM +0200, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: How do I distinguish between stable and unstable in this scenario ? How do I define that my package should go into: - unstable - non-US - main or - unstable - non-US - non-free There is something I have

Re: Homapages in list of maintainers

1999-05-12 Thread Josip Rodin
On Wed, May 12, 1999 at 08:09:01AM +0900, Taketoshi Sano wrote: I hope that the site for dupload established in Japan so that we can select the near site to upload our packages. In current standard /etc/dupload.conf contains chiark (uk), master (us?), erlangen (de), and giano (it). I hope

Re: Uploading to pandora (nonus)

1999-05-12 Thread Josip Rodin
On Wed, May 12, 1999 at 02:08:13PM +0200, Christian T. Steigies wrote: Who decides weather a non-US package goes in non-US/main, non-US/contrib or non-US/non-free? Are there any guidelines available? Yes, actually, the Debian Free Software Guidelines :) Software that is threatened by US crypto

Re: Uploaded ssh 1.2.26-4 (source i386) to non-US

1999-05-12 Thread Josip Rodin
On Wed, May 12, 1999 at 03:44:15PM +0200, Christian T. Steigies wrote: 264c7c1726f8d333a7de8c356bd7a73e 619 non-us/net optional ssh_1.2.26-4.dsc 8346f02e1de9f0771a56612e044b2b91 46926 non-us/net optional ssh_1.2.26-4.diff.gz d24a8fe61a54ecace08cf6349bfd5e93 430966 non-us/net optional

Packaging needed for IDL (libidl)

1999-05-10 Thread Josip Rodin
Hi all, Don't ask me what it does, I just know that mozilla code demands it :) So I'll package it. Download location is ftp.mozilla.org, but I'll try to find the origin. The licence is LGPL. If someone could grab it from me (either now, or after I do the initial packaging), I would REALLY

Never mind... [Packaging needed for IDL (libidl)]

1999-05-10 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, May 10, 1999 at 02:32:44PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: Don't ask me what it does, I just know that mozilla code demands it :) Hm. Apparently, this already exists as part of liborbit0, so I'll probably try to use that one. -- enJoy -*/\*- http://jagor.srce.hr/~jrodin/

Re: Release Plans (1999-05-10)

1999-05-10 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, May 10, 1999 at 08:55:44PM +0200, Hartmut Koptein wrote: mozilla should work for potato Maybe it will ;) We'll try. -- enJoy -*/\*- http://jagor.srce.hr/~jrodin/

Re: List of bugs that *must* be fixed before releasing Slink

1999-02-01 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, Feb 01, 1999 at 06:46:49PM +, Julian Gilbey wrote: nonus.debian.org 23780 nonus.debian.org: libssl-dev is obsolete [220] (Heiko Schlittermann [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ... Will non-us ever be fixed? It is but I'm afraid the bugs have not been closed. Heiko seems really

x11amp

1999-02-01 Thread Josip Rodin
Hi, I saw the new alpha version, that has acceptable licence (GPL). Although it's alpha, I'd like to see it packaged. If you aren't interested, I'll do it. For the -devel readers: section should be non-free, right? Thanks. -- enJoy -*/\*- http://jagor.srce.hr/~jrodin/

Re: x11amp

1999-02-01 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, Feb 01, 1999 at 03:05:01PM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: On Mon, Feb 01, 1999 at 04:02:13PM -0500, Shaleh wrote: On 01-Feb-99 John Goerzen wrote: Why should it be non-free if it's GPL? the mp3 patent Which nobody has guaranteed is valid or defensable in Germany, let alone

Re: x11amp

1999-02-01 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, Feb 01, 1999 at 03:30:20PM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: On Mon, Feb 01, 1999 at 10:14:38PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote: I don't see why we ought to let some lawyers trying to make a good bluff scare us. Fraunhofer institute holds the patent, we shouldn't take any chances

Re: x11amp

1999-02-01 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, Feb 01, 1999 at 03:30:41PM -0600, Stephen Crowley wrote: But that is not the reason why my first guess was non-free. It was the fact that mpg123 is in non-free, and x11amp is (according to the docs) based on it. I already have it packaged. It uses plugins for the decoder so I

Re: spectremu - zx spectrum emulator.

1999-01-27 Thread Josip Rodin
On Wed, Jan 27, 1999 at 09:56:10PM +0200, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: Please do. Remember to read the Policy Manual, Developer's Reference and Packaging manual first, if you haven't already. You can find them at the Developer's Corner of the Debian website. And the new maintainers' guide,

Re: Why /var/www? (Was: Where does 'www-data' come from?)

1999-01-26 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, Jan 25, 1999 at 10:23:34PM -0500, Michael Stone wrote: Quoting Juergen A. Erhard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I personally thing either the ftp hierarchy should go to /var/ftp, or the www data should move to /home/www (the latter I'd prefer). /home/(ftp|www) is just plain ugly. (It's a

Re: bzip2 compressed files

1999-01-25 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, Jan 25, 1999 at 11:49:43AM +, Russell Coker wrote: ...but I wouldn't do that *and* remove that .tgz completely, or hhaving all the .debs converted to tbz2. I agree, we're not ready for that yet. However we only need bzip2 in the base if we have bzip2 compressed .deb packages in

Re: bzip2 compressed files

1999-01-22 Thread Josip Rodin
On Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 01:22:56PM +, Russell Coker wrote: Would it be possible to have files such as Contents*.gz also provided in bzip2 format to reduce download times when using slow links? Good idea. And Packages files too. But that would need implementation in dselect, and will only

Re: bzip2 compressed files

1999-01-22 Thread Josip Rodin
On Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 03:28:04PM +, Russell Coker wrote: Would it be possible to have files such as Contents*.gz also provided in bzip2 format to reduce download times when using slow links? Good idea. And Packages files too. But that would need implementation in dselect, and

Re: packages.debian.org

1999-01-20 Thread Josip Rodin
On Tue, Jan 19, 1999 at 09:36:18PM -0500, James A. Treacy wrote: Try again. The system installed version of the indexing program was being used instead of my custom job. This has been fixed so it should work correctly now. Yes, gdb works now. I followed the murphy's law, and tried

packages.debian.org

1999-01-19 Thread Josip Rodin
On Tue, Jan 19, 1999 at 12:58:23PM -0800, Joey Hess wrote: Server news this week: * The [22]bug tracking system has a new easy way to get to a given bug report. http://bugs.debian.org/foo will pull up the bug report for package foo; http://bugs.debian.org/ will pull

Re: packages.debian.org

1999-01-19 Thread Josip Rodin
On Tue, Jan 19, 1999 at 11:40:01PM +0100, Vincent Renardias wrote: One more feature (or a bugfix since it pointed to 404 before :) has been added: you can call http://packages.debian.org/some_package and it will redirect you to the search results on some_package. Jason Gunthorpe enabled

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