update the BTS docs about the tags so bugs submitter knows easily that
their reports will easily go to limbo unread.
In the meantime, I'll pray and hope upstream maintainers of linux will fix
this annoying bug.
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that uses his power to discourage good will -- I know the deal, it is not
very unusual in free software world. It is always very frustrating to be
denied access to some boxes while we need it to keep things going.
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cadre de communications entre francophones ? A priori, tout les
caractères valides dans ce contexte sont bien dispo dans ce charset,
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On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 10:41:46AM +0100, Mathieu Roy wrote:
You are currently saying that the GNU in GNU/Linux is justified by the
glibc and not by any other GNU software, because these GNU software
are common on other unixes.
Why? If you are right that others
, not GPLed. If even LGPL is not enough for
someone, I'm not sure he's looking to contribute to Free Software
development.
http://www.gnu.org/directory/glibc.html
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Erik Steffl [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Mathieu Roy wrote:
...
When I'm told that a system is running GNU/whatever, I expect first to
find there GNU coreutils, GNU bash, GNU Emacs, GNU Compiler
Collection, gzip, GNU awk,GNU make, the GNU Debugger, GNU sysutils,
GNU tar, GNUpg, GNU grep, GNU
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Marc Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 12:57:53PM +0100, Mathieu Roy wrote:
Some or all of: twm, pdmenu, blackbox, afterstep, fluxbox, gtk-menu,
wmaker, fvwm2, enlightenment, etc, consult /etc/menu-methods for more.
There are dozens of programs that use the debian
Cameron Patrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
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| Sure. However, I use WindowMaker since several years now, and apart
| from bug fixes, I did not notice real changes over years (the
| changelog does not speak otherwise, it's almost only
.desktop even for some of the environment/wm listed
by someone previously in this discussion.
(A bad example, I have to admit, considering the size of my
explanation of its usage)
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be done step by
step: the first step is just to say that this transition should be
done.
It doesn't need to be done in two days, does it? If new packages start
directly with .desktop and others packages move to .desktop in the
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by strong divergences on the goal to
reach and the method to follow ; not just because it is *possible* to
do everything on our own.
Are they strong divergences on the goal to rach and the method to
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support a standard created more or less when the latest, only
bugfixes, release was published.
Why do you say that this programs would have no reason to use the
.desktop stuff? What reasons would they have to use the Debian Menu
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2) Do you have any valid proof of what you claim? Please, avoid being
a liar, this is a very bad attitude. Keep your personal feeling
out of this mailing-list, I do not give a toss about it and I think
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I think this is a serious bug: the functionality of the free version
has been lowered to promote patent emcumbered package.
Patented software isn't really non-free.
That's why I wrote patent emcumbered package
1.9-1retrieves files from the web
ii xlibs 4.3.0-0ds2.0.0woody2 X Window System client libraries
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are, but
if you tell me what special needs you have I can try to check
if it can be done with hevea.
Can someone provide a link to a clear explanation about latex2html
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thanks
Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au a tapoté :
On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 08:00:44AM +0100, Mathieu Roy wrote:
Package: gimp1.2
Version: 1.2.3-2.4
Severity: normal
Installed the gimp, I got a message suggesting me to install
gimp1.2-nonfree
If you don't want
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* Mathieu Roy
| Installed the gimp, I got a message suggesting me to install
| gimp1.2-nonfree
Suggests are ok, Recommends and Depends are not ok.
If you disagree with this, please discuss it on -policy, it's not a
technical discussion.
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Can someone provide a link to a clear explanation about latex2html
being non-free?
Read the latest DWN
You mean the DWN from yesterday which has not already been translated?
Ok
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Suggests are ok, Recommends and Depends are not ok.
If you disagree with this, please discuss it on -policy, it's not a
technical discussion.
1) Do you have a pointer that give
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| Installed the gimp, I got a message suggesting me to install
| gimp1.2-nonfree
Suggests are ok, Recommends and Depends are not ok.
If you disagree
to get non-free stuff while you just can
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On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 09:25:23AM +0100, Mathieu Roy wrote:
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Please do not abuse the BTS. If you want to discuss it, feel free to do
so, but this is not a bug in the gimp package.
If you consider that not being a bug
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Installed the gimp, I got a message suggesting me to install
gimp1.2-nonfree
Discussion aside, this is a nonissue, since the gimp1.2-nonfree
package is gone in unstable.
I would very much like
as I know(*), the patent is still valid in Europe and Japan
until mid 2004. Shouldn't this matter for an international project?
As far I know, there are still no patent for software in Europe,
whatever an European institution know to fail to comply to European
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hardware upgrade seems a very extreme attitude (yes, it
makes of you a liar), justifiable only in extreme case (with user
which is actually a real pain).
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It works like wmweather (fetching data according to
a given metar station) but the output is graphical.
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://packages.debian.org/stable/utils/sysutils.html
(anyway what's the difference between tofromdos and
dos2unix/unix2dos?)
Another solution would be to make a debian package that contain these
software along with the gnu sysutils tools.
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adduser is neither essential nor required, thus does not need to be
installed when installing postgres. I'm not quite sure what you mean
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Hum, instead of adduser, useradd should be used by the posgresql
package
such packages?
Check the debian policy.
(Well, why do you expect someone else to search thru the documentation
what you are looking for?)
This page may be helpful, however it's not official.
http://people.debian.org/~walters/descriptions.html
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care, I think, about full desktop environment,
not toolkit -- defined GUI style instead of libraries. If a software
is only GTK+, not _for_ GNOME, there are many reasons to believe that
this software does not follow the tremendous UI of GNOME.
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bugs.
Well, in this case it seems consistent and it's your problem.
Pretty easy, isn't it?
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package when installing non-free software,
as long as a technical solution is provided?
I guess so, if the technical solution is correct. Severity something
less than release-critical, though.
Is this technical solution acceptable for you?
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Hi,
On Mon, Sep 08, 2003 at 10:13:59AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
On Mon, Sep 08, 2003 at 09:35:45AM +0200, Mathieu Roy wrote:
Would it be acceptable to fill a bug against each installer that do
not build a proper debian package when
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I asked you a question which could be answered quite simply by producing
one of those ways. Go on. It's my honest belief that it can't be done
that the issue is
so trivial, so I do not think it can be considered as only a wish.
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On Mon, Sep 08, 2003 at 09:35:45AM +0200, Mathieu Roy wrote:
Would it be acceptable to fill a bug against each installer that do
not build a proper debian package when installing non-free software?
How can they do so? Installing a package
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On Mon, Sep 08, 2003 at 09:35:45AM +0200, Mathieu Roy wrote:
Would it be acceptable to fill a bug against each installer that do
not build
is not in the habit of editing its history (mailing list
archives). Don't start down that slope.
Unfortunately, this kind of requests are beginning to come up very
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in
Debian...
So, is there any obvious reason why some proprietary software get a
installer package in contrib instead of a debian package in
non-free? For instance, why the non-free flashplayer does not get a
true debian package in non-free, to benefit truly of the debian tools.
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Op di 02-09-2003, om 17:46 schreef Mathieu Roy:
So, is there any obvious reason why some proprietary software get a
installer package in contrib instead of a debian package in
non-free? For instance, why the non-free flashplayer does not get
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hypocritical to claim that these package contains free software.
Finally, someone who install the contrib flashplugin-nonfree get on
his computer a non-free software, possibly without even noticing it,
because he never seen a dependancy against a package in non-free.
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On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 02:23:40PM +0200, Mathieu Roy wrote:
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So I do not agree that Contrib is a ok place for installers. While
basically
in
the Debian BTS.
Because users that submitted bugs using the Debian BTS do not deserve
the right to get a mail meaningful about the bug they reported?
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The bug has been fixed is everything I would need to know. I don't
really care if it was a typo, a new library, a rebuild or some magic
incantation with black dribbling candles, the bug has been fixed.
On Fri, 2003-08-29 at 17:46, Mathieu Roy
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On Fri, 2003-08-29 at 14:18, Mathieu Roy wrote:
We've gone through this many times already. Upstream changes should
not be documented in the Debian changelog, even if they fix bugs in
the Debian BTS.
Because users that submitted bugs using
genre de question mais tu travailles sur ton logiciel qui est en C
(ou C++, je ne sais plus), non ?
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d'un bon nombre de programmes piliers de Debian...
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, temps de fonctionnement elle comprend, pas
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, permettant à d'autres
personnes confrontée au problème d'avoir une réponse directement.
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Debian brisé.
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/debian-devel-200306/msg01787.html
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/debian-devel-200306/msg01852.html
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permet de
fixer des bugs, à long terme il n'est pas sûr que ce soit une bonne
solution.
De toute façon, les docs à ce propos sont assez claires (pas de NMU
pour des bugs mineurs, pas de NMU sans avoir contacté le mainteneur,
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is the #3117. As comment for this bug, we have This bug
is a duplicate of Bug #1517, which has been fixed. See that bug report
for a patch..
So, maybe the patch you are looking for is there:
http://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?func=detailbugbug_id=1517group_id=71
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is apparently not especially looking for GNOME2 but just
a complete GNOME, whatever its version.
Will GNOME2 be soon completely available in Sarge? Is it a work in
progress? Or is it an accident which no one cares about?
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leur ego.. :-)
C'est probablement vrai, mais ce ne devrait normalement pas être le cas
selon la section 5.11.5 de la référence du développeur Debian (en
anglais).
Ce sujet est abordé sur debian-devel, d'ailleurs...
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I must admit that your mail just brought me to notice the presence of
mailutils, while I was using mailx too.
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search gnu | sed 's/ .*//'`
Hum, the point is not to fetch every gnu packages but to fetch gnu
versions for installed pacakges.
Note that with apt-cache search gnu, I get for example:
kile, kmrml, mhc, zsh-beta-doc, zsh-doc, zsh30-doc...
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On Mon, Jun 30, 2003 at 12:42:28PM +0200, Mathieu Roy wrote:
Great, for a default application...
(ok, man mawk...)
I wonder what makes the following more convenient for a default
application to me...
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ gawk --help
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. As a Linux lover, I'm sure you understand that a
reason of the success of this kernel is the way the code is
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'supports' Linux, but you
need to use Netscape to be able to use that site.
With the current mozilla version, everything that works with a
netscape 4.x works with mozilla.
If not, write them to work on w3c standards compliances.
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A favicon is a usual image, you can simply take and resize
openlogo-nd-25.png a little (to 48*48 for instance).
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90% of meaningless statistics, you mean?
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la place publique une affaire pas privée du tout. Alors que
c'est pas là que se situe le problème.
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mails is fine to everybody but
not blocking/discarding/bouncing mails (that can be done later, by
user, with their procmailrc).
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description, IHMO, should not be based on assumptions on the
popularity of something. Because a description should be meaningful
for everyone, shouldn't it?
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). It's maybe the case but you should check if it's
really the case.
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the entire upstream changelog in
changelog.Debian.gz, next time i'll build a new upstream.
Is this mature?
You still did not answer to the question: is it too much extra work
you can afford to add in the changelog what permits you to declare a
bug closed?
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( http://www.debian.org/social_contract ).
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documented would be
redundant and not so helpful.
Not necessarily. People that submitted these bugs will receive by mail
a notice with the debian changelog, not the original changelog.
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or time
- so which is not a real issue.
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closed in
changelog.
Or maybe the maintainers can just spend 14 seconds to add a comment
for each bug closed. Is that so complicated, so awful?
This way, users can all be satisfied and you do not requires all user
to spend 14 seconds each.
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is fascinating: so many people so different contribute
to a same project... despite the fact that they think completely
differently on other issues.
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