Re: Debian 10th birthday gear

2003-07-09 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 09:44:06PM -0400, James Michael Greenhalgh wrote: 100 million users 1000 installations I would recommend to exchange these last two lines. More installations than users? actually they are million users :) Is it me or has the debate

Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-26 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Tue, Nov 26, 2002 at 08:10:18AM -0500, Sean Proctor wrote: [ snip ] ... Anyway, Gentoo has a much different niche than Debian, so I don't understand why people are arguing about changing Debian because of it. If Gentoo serves their needs better, good. Perhaps Debian can then focus less on

Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-25 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 04:21:32PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 06:56:57PM +0100, Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo wrote: Could you run X 4.2 in, say, s390 that date? Never ask a Gentoo user that question. The answer is always one of the following: 1) I don't care 2)

Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-25 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 02:19:14PM -0800, Jon Kent wrote: Never ask a Gentoo user that question. The answer is always one of the following: 1) I don't care 2) What's S/390? I really don't care ;-), when I am or 99.999% of Debian users ever gonna get near a S/390, high end Sun

Re: Technical Committee: decision on #119517?

2002-04-19 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Fri, Apr 19, 2002 at 12:59:22PM +0200, Jochen Voss wrote: Hallo? On Fri, Apr 19, 2002 at 01:20:32AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: Over six months ago, on 2001-11-14, [...] ^^ ^ || | Year -+| |

Re: Faster Release Cycle = More Up to date Packages...

2002-04-11 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 11:13:49PM +0200, Johnny Ernst Nielsen wrote: Thank you Joey for being so obliging to a constructive proposal, and thank you for your polite way of replying to my proposal. Do you think you could put your 6 year old attitude aside for a few moments and take this as

Re: Rsyncable GZIP (was Re: Package metadata server)

2002-04-07 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 09:11:27PM -0500, Jeff Licquia wrote: On Sun, 2002-04-07 at 13:16, Otto Wyss wrote: A large mirror in Australia does provide an rsync server to access debian packages. When redhat 7.0 came out so many people tried to rsync it at the same time, the machine promptly

Re: Debian Conference 2 Registration

2002-04-06 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 02:51:23AM +0200, Jeroen Dekkers wrote: On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 07:30:21PM -0500, Joe Drew wrote: On Sat, 2002-04-06 at 18:59, Jeroen Dekkers wrote: The keyword here is prominent. Yes, it is. The Debian servers don't run non-free software provided by HP

Re: on potato's proftpd

2002-04-02 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 03:22:39AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: dear list, look, i am really not here to start a flame war and heck no, i don't want one. please excuse if my behaviour has been leading you onto this belief (or maybe not). i am simply failing to grasp the arguments laid out

Re: An alarming trend (no it's not flaimbait.) (fwd)

2001-12-26 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, Dec 26, 2001 at 03:49:11PM -0600, Brian Wolfe wrote: Instead of many new packages, why not make people pick up the orphaned stuff, and find replacements or adopt packages that have been DOA upstream? In a volunteer organization, you can't _make_ people do anything. You can

Re: An alarming trend (no it's not flaimbait.) (fwd)

2001-12-26 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, Dec 26, 2001 at 04:52:39PM -0600, Brian Wolfe wrote: [ a bunch of stuff I didn't read, because ... ] If you're going to participate on the debian mailing lists, consider doing so with a mailer that understands and honors the Mail-Followup-To: header (yes, I know it's not an official

Re: A language by any other name

2001-09-27 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Thu, Sep 27, 2001 at 02:12:46PM +1000, Sam Couter wrote: Therefore, without emotion and with a pragmatic hand to guide me, I feel that English should be an alias for en_US. s/without emotion/with typical American patriotism/ s/pragmatic/dogmatic/ Patriotism != jingoism. -- Nathan

Re: sysctl should disable ECN by default

2001-09-07 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Fri, Sep 07, 2001 at 12:47:05PM +0200, T.Pospisek's MailLists wrote: On Thu, 6 Sep 2001, Alex Pennace wrote: On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 02:37:06PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: Russell Coker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why should the default configuration be changed to account for the

Re: Student Looking for A Final Year Project

2001-09-07 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Fri, Sep 07, 2001 at 02:56:23PM -0400, Alan Shutko wrote: Glenn McGrath [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I hate CVS, i thought everyone else did as well and people only used it because of a lack of alternatives. http://subversion.tigris.org OT: galeon does not like this website much.

Re: how can Euro symbol be displayed under X [4.0.3]?

2001-05-09 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, May 09, 2001 at 02:34:44PM -0400, Alan Shutko wrote: Gordon Sadler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Not everyone. It's a square here, on the console. Just like good ol' pong. Right, because you're using a limited mailer which can't show different charsets. 8^) (A rather decent reason

Re: cvs not updating correctly

2001-05-08 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Tue, May 08, 2001 at 05:29:30PM -0400, Jon Eisenstein wrote: I use cvs in Debian for lots of things but I'm still a newcomer in this field, I think I am not being able to get new created directories and files from the cvs repository with an cvs update, are there arguments or options to

Re: rfc1149

2001-05-02 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 09:40:23PM +0100, Oliver Elphick wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 11 years ago IETF described a IP protocol to transport IP datagrams using pigeons. See http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1149.txt Sadly enough, noone has still implemented this protocol. It's

Re: why dig ? I wanna use nslookup !

2001-05-02 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 05:13:08PM -0400, Jacob Kuntz wrote: from the secret journal of John H. Robinson, IV ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): it says ``that a user would obtain by installing''SO this means: on (say) a Debian 2.1 system, if a user were to get the tarbal, and compile it against the

Re: (OT) Storage (8*IDE HDs) any experiences?

2001-05-02 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 11:21:49PM +0200, PiotR wrote: On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 08:30:10AM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Tue, May 01, 2001 at 08:42:04PM +0200, PiotR wrote: If you short circuit both PS's outputs then the voltage is the same and there won't be any reverse current,

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-22 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 09:59:42PM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 12:09:12AM -0500, David Starner wrote: On Sat, Apr 21, 2001 at 09:28:02PM -0500, Rahul Jain wrote: Unless you care about performace. Which is the main reason to use different packages for each CPU type.

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-22 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 10:23:04PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: Craig Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: in that case, a far better solution is a package containing a bunch of pre-generated kernel .config files, plus a menu script to copy your choice to the right subdirectory (e.g.

can the bug reporter close a bug? [was:Re: Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody]

2001-01-07 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 08:29:03AM +0200, Eray Ozkural wrote: On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 10:55:32PM -0700, Adam Conrad wrote: Hate to state the obvious, but on a DEFAULT Debian install, if nothing is changed, root's default path with be dictated by /root/.profile ... Maybe the machine behaving

Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody

2001-01-07 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 04:38:10AM +0200, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote: Hi Matt!! I don't report a bug due to misconfiguration. Let's see if what you see applies, though. [ snip rude and silly reply ] [ time passes ] On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 08:29:03AM +0200, Eray Ozkural wrote: Hi Adam, On

Re: can the bug reporter close a bug? [was:Re: Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody]

2001-01-07 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 11:42:57PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 01:57:11AM -0600, Gordon Sadler wrote: On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 01:14:40AM -0600, Nathan E Norman wrote: I apologize for prolonging this thread - it's quite annoying. However, after reading

Re: bugs + rant + constructive criticism (long)

2001-01-03 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 12:11:21PM -0800, Philip Brown wrote: [ Miles Bader writes ] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Philip Brown) writes: As opposed to the current scheme, which also requires annoying manual editing of addresses to reply to the list, if your mailreader does the reasonable thing

Re: 'testing' dep conflicts

2000-12-28 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 12:10:41AM +0100, Sven Burgener wrote: Hello I am running 'testing', upgraded from potato a few days ago. Two questions: 1. Why are packages kept back like follows? $ apt-get update apt-get upgrade [ snip ] The following packages have been kept back

Re: Bug#80544: [rename] can't rename dir with valid permissions

2000-12-27 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 03:05:50AM +0200, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote: Martin. Yes. I tried. Do you think I'm a newbie or something? Why do you think the file is owned by root? It's on windows partition... Hold on ... this is an msdos partition mounted? If so, check out man 8 mount; specifically

Re: Location of -doc documentation?

2000-12-26 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Mon, Dec 25, 2000 at 11:35:06PM -0800, Joey Hess wrote: Nathan E Norman wrote: http://.../doc/apache;, while `debconf-doc' puts it under http://.../debconf-doc/;. I beleive the original point was that debconf-doc places its documentation in /usr/share/doc/debconf-doc, while

Re: Location of -doc documentation?

2000-12-25 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Mon, Dec 25, 2000 at 11:48:32PM +0100, Arthur Korn wrote: Joey Hess schrieb: Karl M. Hegbloom wrote: I just noticed that `apache-doc' puts the documentation under http://.../doc/apache;, while `debconf-doc' puts it under http://.../debconf-doc/;. Eh? (Debconf-doc is a

Re: Bug#80343: general: Lack of policy on which files should be owned by which user

2000-12-25 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 04:43:53AM +0200, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote: Brian May wrote: - harder to administrate /etc/passwd as more users exist. I like using groups to give different sets of rights and I'm annoyed by Debian giving every user his own group. Is that reall necessary? It's

Re: RBL report..

2000-03-29 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, Mar 29, 2000 at 02:31:50PM -0700, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: On Wed, 29 Mar 2000, Larry Gilbert wrote: Why is murphy.debian.org not adding a Received: header to show where messages are originating? This information is useful when trying to track down actual spammers. Is this being

Missing parse-xf86config breaks login.app [was: Re: New version of xserver-svga gives poorer display on laptop]

2000-03-27 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sun, Mar 26, 2000 at 02:48:49PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: On Sun, Mar 26, 2000 at 06:05:43PM +0400, Konstantin Kivi wrote: I also had to add Set_LCDClk 40 to the Device section. Be aware that parse-xf86config used in /etc/init.d/xdm doesn't unserstand it Be aware that

Re: Packages to remove from frozen

2000-03-08 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Tue, Mar 07, 2000 at 11:26:12PM -0500, Michael Stone wrote: On Tue, Mar 07, 2000 at 03:13:36PM -0800, Joey Hess wrote: Michael Stone wrote: Not very backward-compatible, is it? In some environments it's desirable to have the software behave the same on every platform; even if it's

Re: scanning my ports

1999-09-26 Thread Nathan E Norman
On 26 Sep 1999, Mark W. Eichin wrote: : In addition to apologies to Mr. Norman, perhaps there's some value in : either (1) making tcplogd etc. require enough configuration to force : people to read the documentation, or (2) enhance those packages to : interpret things a little more, so they

Re: scanning my ports

1999-09-25 Thread Nathan E Norman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Fri, 24 Sep 1999, John Lapeyre wrote: : Dear Security Staff: :I received 2086 connection attempts at several ports on September 22. : The attempts were made from IP address pavlov.midco.net [24.220.0.13] : The machine whose ports

Re: Steve Lamb in my killfile.

1999-09-16 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, 15 Sep 1999, Jonathan Walther wrote: : Will someone please notify me when Steve Lamb becomes a reasonable person. : As of 2 minutes ago, all mail from him is being sent to /dev/null by : procmail. Notification will be on the 11:00 news right after Hell Freezes Over and Monkeys Fly Out

Re: Intent to package netStreamer

1999-02-01 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Mon, 1 Feb 1999, Shaleh wrote: [ intent to package snipped ] Is there a URL for this, or is the code only available via supernatural revelation? -- Nathan Norman MidcoNet 410 South Phillips Avenue Sioux Falls, SD mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midco.net finger [EMAIL

Re: Intent to package netStreamer

1999-02-01 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Mon, 1 Feb 1999, Shaleh wrote: : : On 01-Feb-99 Nathan E Norman wrote: : On Mon, 1 Feb 1999, Shaleh wrote: : : [ intent to package snipped ] : : Is there a URL for this, or is the code only available via supernatural : revelation? : : Only the truly blessed may wonder upon

Re: Debian 2.[01] -- Only rudimentary support for Laptops?

1998-10-15 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Thu, 15 Oct 1998, Alexander Kushnirenko wrote: : Hi, : : I have an IBM ThinkPad 380XD. I have found that 2.0.x kernels just don't : work properly, my machine will crash or shutdown during boot. I believe that : the best thing that can be done to support laptops is to create boot

Re: Live file system

1998-10-06 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Tue, 6 Oct 1998, Michael Meskes wrote: : On Tue, Oct 06, 1998 at 07:37:10PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: : Do we have a complete filesystem on CD like SuSE does? It's a nice addition : for those short in disk space. : : Please send an appropriate patch to the debian-cd maintainer.

Re: what's after slink

1998-10-04 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sat, 3 Oct 1998, David Welton wrote: : On Sat, Oct 03, 1998 at 10:45:36PM -0400, Justin Maurer wrote: : : ah, but imdb is missing one important character (at least!). : rc! the radio control car! : : i say rc should be 2.2, as i have before. : : Debian 2.2, on the FTP site, is

Re: what's after slink

1998-10-03 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sat, 3 Oct 1998, Bob Nielsen wrote: [ snip ] : That's from the credits, but there are some more : : r.c. (mentioned previously) : molly : snake : robot : etch : mike : mr. spell : lenny : claw : : There were a few others, but I couldn't pick out the names from the : soundtrack.

Re: Gothenburg - Vancouver

1998-06-24 Thread Nathan E Norman
On 24 Jun 1998, Turbo Fredriksson wrote: : Oki, I'm leaving for Vancouver next Friday (3/7). I'll be stopping by London : over the weekend and leave Sunday around 1800. I don't know when I'll be : back online, I'll get 'Net access through 'Rogers wave'... xDSL, jummy :) Wildly off topic ...

Re: Gothenburg - Vancouver

1998-06-24 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, 24 Jun 1998, Avery Pennarun wrote: : On Wed, Jun 24, 1998 at 05:06:06PM +0200, Turbo Fredriksson wrote: : : Wildly off topic ... isn't The Wave cable modem access? : : Hmmm... You really got me there... I have been lead to beleve it's xDSL, : but I'm not sure... Anyone? : : It's

Re: 19980623 Work-Needing and Prospective Packages

1998-06-24 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, 24 Jun 1998, Jules Bean wrote: [ snip ] : While I'm typing, what mailing list is the WNPP on? It doesn't seem to be : any of the ones I'm on... I believe it's on debian-devel-announce - that's where I see it anyway :) -- Nathan Norman MidcoNet - 410 South Phillips Avenue - Sioux

Re: Gothenburg - Vancouver

1998-06-24 Thread Nathan E Norman
On 24 Jun 1998, Rob Browning wrote: [ snip ] : IP whenever you initially fire up your computer and click their start : button, but that's the extent of my knowledge. Mainly I don't know : if they've got some proprietary way to configure the connection. I believe RoadRunner uses a proprietary

Re: FIX FOR HAMM: timezone problem

1998-06-20 Thread Nathan E Norman
On 19 Jun 1998, John Goerzen wrote: : Nathan E Norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : : What exactly makes you say that the central timezone doesn't deal with : DST? If you mean US/Central I will have to disagree with you. :) It : works fine here. : : It didn't work here. I use xntp3 to sync

Re: More corrupted utmp/wtmp

1998-06-19 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Fri, 19 Jun 1998, Troy Hanson wrote: : I am having problems on 2 machines (both upgraded from bo). with the : utmp/wtmp. : : The output below is from a machine that never has had an Xterm running : (telnet access only): : : $ last : ;* *.*5 192.168.5.51 Wed Dec 31 21:26

Re: FIX FOR HAMM: timezone problem

1998-06-16 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Tue, 16 Jun 1998, Dale Scheetz wrote: : On Mon, 15 Jun 1998, John Goerzen wrote: : : : Hi, : : I noticed with surprise tonight that my clock was an hour off. : : Investigating the matter revealed that /etc/timezone said : US/Central. running /usr/sbin/tzconfig and setting it to :

Re: FIX FOR HAMM: timezone problem

1998-06-16 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Tue, 16 Jun 1998, Brandon Mitchell wrote: : On Tue, 16 Jun 1998, Dale Scheetz wrote: : : On Mon, 15 Jun 1998, John Goerzen wrote: : : Investigating the matter revealed that /etc/timezone said : US/Central. running /usr/sbin/tzconfig and setting it to : SystemV/CST6CDT fixed the

Re: FIX FOR HAMM: timezone problem

1998-06-16 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Tue, 16 Jun 1998, Dale Scheetz wrote: : Sorry to have stayed out of this but I have been busy... : : Bottom line...tzconfig is broken. That may be :) : If you look at the list provided under US there is an entry of : Indiana-Eastern, and Arizona... as well. These should be linked to their :

Re: FIX FOR HAMM: timezone problem

1998-06-16 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Tue, 16 Jun 1998, Dale Scheetz wrote: : On Tue, 16 Jun 1998, Nathan E Norman wrote: : : On Tue, 16 Jun 1998, Dale Scheetz wrote: : : : Sorry to have stayed out of this but I have been busy... : : : : Bottom line...tzconfig is broken. : : That may be :) : : : If you look

License

1998-06-14 Thread Nathan E Norman
Where can I find a good reference to LICENSES? We are looking at EW-too (the talker code) - here is the license: The EW-too code and concept are copyright Simon Marsh, August 1994. Permission is hereby granted for the code to be copied, changed, and used for any non-profit making purpose in

Re: VI reasons (was Re: Base Set: Suggested additions removals.)

1998-06-11 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Thu, 11 Jun 1998, Wichert Akkerman wrote: : Previously Dale Scheetz wrote: : ae already does this, and provides a reasonably vi ish interface, just to : satisfy those whose fingers are only programmed for vi. : : Personally, I find ae's vi-compatibility even worse then normal ae: it :

Re: boot-floppies package

1998-04-10 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, Vincent Renardias wrote: : : On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, Nathan E Norman wrote: : : We have a ton of older PS/2 MCA machines around here, many with ESDI : disks, others with the IBM SCSI HBA. Neither ESDI nor the IBM HBA are : supported by the current rescue disks

Re: boot-floppies package

1998-04-10 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, Dale Scheetz wrote: : On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, Nathan E Norman wrote: : : Hello, : [ snip ] : If all you need to do is put a different kernel on the rescue floppy : (which is what it sounds like) simply take the delivered image, mount it, : and copy the kernel image from your

Re: boot-floppies package

1998-04-10 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, Dale Scheetz wrote: [ snip ] : Furthermore, it might become necessary to change the available modules : (I honestly don't know whether this is the case), and I don't believe : the rescue disk has device files for ESDI disks. They are /dev/ed[ab], : correct? Vincent

Re: NPR piece on Linux

1998-04-09 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Jeff Noxon wrote: : Anyone have a digitized copy of this? :) : : Thanks, http://www.npr.org/ramfiles/980408.atc.14.ram -- Nathan Norman MidcoNet - 410 South Phillips Avenue - Sioux Falls, SD 57104 mailto://[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midco.net finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]

boot-floppies package

1998-04-09 Thread Nathan E Norman
Hello, We have a ton of older PS/2 MCA machines around here, many with ESDI disks, others with the IBM SCSI HBA. Neither ESDI nor the IBM HBA are supported by the current rescue disks. So, in a not quite right state of mind, I decided I would make some boot floppies so that my coworkers, and

Integrating main, non-us ftp site

1998-01-11 Thread Nathan E Norman
If I attempt to do a dselect install via ftp from a local mirror which has both the main debian distribution as well as the non-US stuff, it doesn't work. Not without jumping through some serious hoops, at any rate. The problem is that the Packages file on the non-US site do not follow the same

Re: dpkg's version comparison algorithm?

1998-01-09 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Fri, 9 Jan 1998, David Frey wrote: : Hello collegues, : : I don't understand dpkg's version compare algorithm: ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) : /var/debian/unstable/binary-i386/math$dpkg --compare-versions 1.15 lt : 1.2-1; echo $? 1 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) : /var/debian/unstable/binary-i386/math$dpkg

Re: cron jobs more often than daily

1998-01-05 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Mon, 5 Jan 1998, Hamish Moffatt wrote: : On Mon, Jan 05, 1998 at 01:26:56PM +0100, Martin Schulze wrote: : On Mon, Jan 05, 1998 at 09:48:42PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: : However, there's no suitable user for this and it needs : to run as root anyway to reset the accounting stats. :

sulogin timeout, in /etc/init.d/checkroot

1997-12-23 Thread Nathan E Norman
Now that we're using rcS.d rather than /etc/init.d/boot, I've noticed some different behavior from 'sulogin'. I have SULOGIN=yes, so I have a chance to go single-user on reboot. However, the timeout does not work! If I reboot the machine, I must physically hit ^D to continue the boot, no matter

Re: sulogin timeout, in /etc/init.d/checkroot

1997-12-23 Thread Nathan E Norman
On 23 Dec 1997, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: : In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], : Nathan E Norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: : Now that we're using rcS.d rather than /etc/init.d/boot, I've noticed : some different behavior from 'sulogin'. I have SULOGIN=yes, so I have : a chance to go single-user

Re: status of bzip

1997-12-12 Thread Nathan E Norman
On 11 Dec 1997, Guy Maor wrote: : Michael Sobolev [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : : Whoops, forget I said the above sentence, I can't seem to find bzip : anywhere in Debian... My fingers automatically typed gzip instead of : bzip when searching :-( : The last time it was seen in non-us

Re: problems with SHA-1

1997-06-25 Thread Nathan E Norman
On 25 Jun 1997, Mark Eichin wrote: : : IBM developed a cypher called lucifer. The NSA examined it, : recommended some changes to the algorithm, and the result was DES. : :Changes which, we now know, *strengthened* it against differential :cryptanalysis (which they new about in the 70's, and

Re: problems with SHA-1

1997-06-24 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Shaya Potter wrote: :On Mon, 23 Jun 1997, Bruce Perens wrote: : : The problem with SHA-1 is that it is a U.S. Federal Information Processing : Standard, and I don't trust that the U.S. government will not place export : restrictions on it. I'm also wary of U.S. FIPS for the

Re: Hamm: Exim + Chos standard?

1997-06-14 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Fri, 13 Jun 1997, Mark Baker wrote: : :In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], : Alexander Koch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : : Both qmail (which proved insecure most evil grin) and Exim are not capable : of UUCP or even bang paths! So a lot of those guys in countries where phone : costs are