Re: tzdate 2016d update (released 2016-04-17) for future time stamps

2016-04-19 Thread Noel Torres
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Re: delete my resume in your web site

2014-12-02 Thread Noel Torres
On Wednesday, 3 de December de 2014 02:48:33 Jenny zhou escribió: HI, I requested many time. but my resume is still on your web site. Can you help me to delete that? https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2004/07/doc_9rK_X0lC5.doc Cached Thanks, Jenny Did you sent it to the list in

Re: Technical committee acting in gross violation of the Debian constitution

2014-12-01 Thread Noel Torres
On Sunday, 30 de November de 2014 18:05:54 Neil Williams escribió: [...] Contribute code or stop wasting everyone's time on the mailing lists. Contributing code is not the only way to contribute to Debian. At least to the Debian I love. Please come out of the developer shell. Translators, e.g.

Re: Technical committee acting in gross violation of the Debian constitution

2014-11-30 Thread Noel Torres
On Friday, 28 de November de 2014 07:45:29 Josselin Mouette escribió: [...] This is nothing short of bullying. If you want to help our users, you can contribute to debianfork, or you can improve your packages in Debian. But spreading your bitterness on development forums is only about hurting

Re: DE features dependent on Systemd

2014-11-30 Thread Noel Torres
On Sunday, 30 de November de 2014 13:55:04 Vincent Bernat escribió: ❦ 30 novembre 2014 12:50 GMT, Ivan Shmakov i...@siamics.net : PolicyKit rely on logind to know if a user is locally connected. A non-local user won't be allowed things like network management, local device mounting

Re: Technical committee acting in gross violation of the Debian constitution

2014-11-26 Thread Noel Torres
On Wednesday, 26 de November de 2014 02:23:20 Paul Wise escribió: On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 3:41 AM, Noel Torres wrote: Who our users are? Debian's users are the set of people and organisations who use Debian. Exactly. Who they are? The people who chose Debian, are they laptop users? desktop

Re: Technical committee acting in gross violation of the Debian constitution

2014-11-25 Thread Noel Torres
On Monday, 17 de November de 2014 20:45:19 Josselin Mouette escribió: -- .''`. Josselin Mouette : :' : `. `' `- On Tuesday, 25 de November de 2014 17:30:38 Stephen Gran escribió: Cheers, -- - | ,''`.

Re: Technical committee acting in gross violation of the Debian constitution

2014-11-25 Thread Noel Torres
On Tuesday, 25 de November de 2014 19:50:48 Axel Wagner escribió: Noel Torres env...@rolamasao.org writes: Why is it that systemd proponents are the ones using this kind of signature? Are they trying to insinuate that Debian is theirs? Wow! A dipshit crazy conspiracy theory about systemd

Re: Technical committee acting in gross violation of the Debian constitution

2014-11-25 Thread Noel Torres
On Tuesday, 25 de November de 2014 20:15:36 Andrey Rahmatullin escribió: On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 08:03:44PM +, Noel Torres wrote: Why is it that systemd proponents are the ones using this kind of signature? Are they trying to insinuate that Debian is theirs? Wow! A dipshit

Re: systemd, fstab, noauto and nofail

2014-11-24 Thread Noel Torres
On Monday, 24 de November de 2014 07:33:38 Matthias Urlichs escribió: Hi, Noel Torres: Anyway I see that you do not use the noauto option. Is that on purpose? What? It's the very first option. My fault. My eyes looked for defaults,noauto while I was searching for just noauto. In any

Re: systemd, fstab, noauto and nofail

2014-11-23 Thread Noel Torres
On Sunday, 23 de November de 2014 15:09:53 Vincent Danjean escribió: On 20/11/2014 21:44, Simon McVittie wrote: noauto is appropriate for detachable/removable media that are not normally present. The other option for such media is to leave them out of fstab altogether, and use something

Re: systemd, fstab, noauto and nofail

2014-11-21 Thread Noel Torres
On Thursday, 20 de November de 2014 20:44:17 Simon McVittie escribió: On 20/11/14 19:06, Noel Torres wrote: On Thursday, 20 de November de 2014 17:53:27 Marco d'Itri escribió: On Nov 20, Sam Hartman hartm...@debian.org wrote: The first issue (fstab now fatally blocks boot) is something

Re: Bug#769907: general: non-sysvinit init systems are made of fail

2014-11-20 Thread Noel Torres
On Thursday, 20 de November de 2014 17:53:27 Marco d'Itri escribió: On Nov 20, Sam Hartman hartm...@debian.org wrote: The first issue (fstab now fatally blocks boot) is something the systemd maintainers have considered (as I understand it) and rejected. The behaviour of systemd will not be

Re: Technical committee acting in gross violation of the Debian constitution

2014-11-17 Thread Noel Torres
On Monday, 17 de November de 2014 20:20:56 Josselin Mouette escribió: First, Don, I’d like to thank you for keeping the discussion civil. I have made a serious accusation, and I don’t want it to be an excuse for a mudfight. The point is not that you have made a serious accusation. It is your

Re: A concerned user -- debian Guidelines

2014-11-11 Thread Noel Torres
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Re: Bug#762116: marked as done (general: Some packages depend on a particular init system)

2014-09-20 Thread Noel Torres
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Re: Trimming priority:standard

2014-09-16 Thread Noel Torres
On Sunday, 14 de September de 2014 17:04:10 Stefano Zacchiroli escribió: On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 11:17:34AM -0700, Josh Triplett wrote: I'm not arguing that standard should have nothing in it; it should have things that the vast majority of users will 1) expect to find present without

Re: upgrades must not change the installed init system [was: Re: Cinnamon environment now available in testing]

2014-09-16 Thread Noel Torres
On Thursday, 11 de September de 2014 08:00:57 Marc Haber escribió: On Thu, 11 Sep 2014 00:04:07 -0300, Martinx - ? thiagocmarti...@gmail.com wrote: Also, during Debian 8 installation, please, provide an altinit option ( http://pyro.eu.org/debian/pool/main/d/debian-altinit/ ?), so,

Re: upgrades must not change the installed init system [was: Re: Cinnamon environment now available in testing]

2014-09-16 Thread Noel Torres
On Wednesday, 10 de September de 2014 21:26:50 Matthias Urlichs escribió: Hi, Steve Langasek: On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 08:28:36PM +0100, Marcin Kulisz wrote: What about cases when init scripts doesn't come from any package but are crafted by hand? It's straightforward to check for

Re: Trimming priority:standard

2014-09-16 Thread Noel Torres
On Tuesday, 16 de September de 2014 22:17:51 Joerg Jaspert escribió: On 13698 March 1977, Didier Raboud wrote: One thought... there will probably be trademark concerns with unix.[1] So we might have to choose a name for the tasksel task to be someting like unix-like. Or we could

Re: upgrades must not change the installed init system [was: Re: Cinnamon environment now available in testing]

2014-09-10 Thread Noel Torres
On Wednesday, 10 de September de 2014 03:12:16 Ben Hutchings escribió: On Tue, 2014-09-09 at 21:24 +0100, Noel Torres wrote: On Tuesday, 9 de September de 2014 21:18:55 Tollef Fog Heen escribió: ]] Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez But if you don't (Is not uncommon to have servers on remote

Re: Seeking help with OpenVPN scripts and systemd

2014-09-10 Thread Noel Torres
On Wednesday, 10 de September de 2014 05:25:44 Andrey Rahmatullin escribió: On Tue, Sep 09, 2014 at 09:26:28PM +0100, Noel Torres wrote: openvpn package should Conflitcs systemd in order to avoid systemd being installed ITYM to avoid openvpn being installed. No, I mean what I wrote

Re: Seeking help with OpenVPN scripts and systemd

2014-09-10 Thread Noel Torres
On Wednesday, 10 de September de 2014 18:55:06 Adam D. Barratt escribió: On Wed, 2014-09-10 at 17:47 +0100, Noel Torres wrote: On Wednesday, 10 de September de 2014 05:25:44 Andrey Rahmatullin escribió: On Tue, Sep 09, 2014 at 09:26:28PM +0100, Noel Torres wrote: openvpn package should

Re: upgrades must not change the installed init system [was: Re: Cinnamon environment now available in testing]

2014-09-09 Thread Noel Torres
On Tuesday, 9 de September de 2014 21:18:55 Tollef Fog Heen escribió: ]] Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez But if you don't (Is not uncommon to have servers on remote locations that are only accessible via ssh) and the machine don't boots properly you can find yourself in trouble. Then surely

Re: Seeking help with OpenVPN scripts and systemd

2014-09-09 Thread Noel Torres
On Tuesday, 9 de September de 2014 16:51:20 Alberto Gonzalez Iniesta escribió: AltSubject: For those who care about OpenVPN Dear fellow developers, This is a cry for help. I've been trying to support systemd in OpenVPN for some time, but the results are not satisfactory. I'd like to keep

Re: Cinnamon environment now available in testing

2014-09-08 Thread Noel Torres
On Sunday, 7 de September de 2014 23:45:12 David Weinehall escribió: On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 12:37:12PM -0700, Cameron Norman wrote: On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 1:57 AM, Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org wrote: Noel Torres wrote: So we are clearly failing to follow the least surprise

Re: systemd, again (Re: Cinnamon environment now available in testing)

2014-09-08 Thread Noel Torres
On Sunday, 7 de September de 2014 16:11:02 Matthias Urlichs escribió: Hi, Chris Bannister: If technically feasible, that would be a far better safety net (just tell people to boot with init=/sbin/sysvinit if they run into a problem) than an oh dear, it's so dangerous that we don't

Re: systemd, again (Re: Cinnamon environment now available in testing)

2014-09-06 Thread Noel Torres
On Friday, 5 de September de 2014 21:36:43 Ansgar Burchardt escribió: Nothing prevents you from a, installing systemd-shim from Jessie before running apt-get dist-upgrade or b, using apt-get dist-upgrade upstart. I'm fairly sure I saw this question also answered on -user@ once or twice times

There should not be dependencies on systemd (Was: Cinnamon environment now available in testing)

2014-09-06 Thread Noel Torres
On Friday, 5 de September de 2014 18:52:44 Zack Weinberg escribió: Abstractly, I believe the ideal situation would be for all init systems in the archive to be *completely* co-installable, with /sbin/init a symlink under control of the administrator; under no circumstances would installing or

Re: Cinnamon environment now available in testing

2014-09-05 Thread Noel Torres
On Friday, 5 de September de 2014 02:37:18 Cameron Norman escribió: On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 4:51 PM, Adam Borowski kilob...@angband.pl wrote: On Thu, Sep 04, 2014 at 02:57:16PM +0200, Margarita Manterola wrote: On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 9:43 AM, envite env...@rolamasao.org wrote: Does this

Re: Jessie without systemd as PID 1?

2014-09-05 Thread Noel Torres
On Wednesday, 3 de September de 2014 16:21:31 Svante Signell escribió: [...] should be allowed, and I'm trying to find out how many of debian users and developers are interested in working together with me on such a solution. Best would be to have an option in the installer (hidden by [...] I

Re: Cinnamon environment now available in testing

2014-09-05 Thread Noel Torres
On Friday, 5 de September de 2014 09:57:34 Josselin Mouette escribió: Noel Torres wrote: So we are clearly failing to follow the least surprise (for the user) path. Should not logind depend on systemd-shim | systemd-sysv instead? No. Systemd is the default init system. The default

Desktop poll app [Was: Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop]

2014-08-11 Thread Noel Torres
On Saturday, 9 de August de 2014 12:04:56 Axel Wagner escribió: [...] I really think, in these kinds of discussions it would be helpfull to get some kind of direct community-feedback. This would help *both* sides in every of these discussions, because it would make it impossible for either

Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-11 Thread Noel Torres
On Monday, 11 de August de 2014 16:34:04 Matthias Urlichs escribió: Hi, Lennart Sorensen: it needs buttons on windows that people expect to see where they expect to see them You mean left vs. right side? Would Debian be willing to make gnome3 have different defaults than upstream

Bug#279983: general: scsi emulated cdrom ide unit can't be correctly mounted first time

2004-11-06 Thread Noel Torres
Package: general Severity: important In my freshly rebooted computer (each time I reboot it): Each of the first times I try to do $ mount /cdrom I get an error answer: mount: /dev/scd0 no es un dispositivo de bloques válido (english: non valid block device) If I do # mount -t iso9660