Re: New adzapper package with Konqueror AdBlocK support

2007-09-26 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Ludovic Drolez] Just import the file /var/lib/adzapper/konqueror.txt in the adblock panel. Feel free to send me any suggestion. Uh, wouldn't that belong in /usr/share? -- Peter Samuelson | org-tld!p12n!peter | http://p12n.org/

Re: Packages with RFCs deleted

2007-09-17 Thread Peter Samuelson
convinced that a lot of users would care a lot about DFSG freedom if only they were aware of the issues. Debian's policy has the side effect of bringing visibility to the issues, to educate these users, and I think it is a good thing. Even if it isn't the primary purpose of the DFSG. -- Peter

Re: Debian's Linux kernel continues to regress on freedom

2007-09-13 Thread Peter Samuelson
these freedoms are valuable, and we don't like the idea of trying to define little special cases, like well, nobody would probably want to cut and paste things from an RFC anyway, like they might from other documents. -- Peter Samuelson | org-tld!p12n!peter | http://p12n.org/

Re: Debian's Linux kernel continues to regress on freedom

2007-09-13 Thread Peter Samuelson
derivative works of software, well, maybe I want to freely make derivative works of spec documents too. For many of the same reasons, in fact. [*] And, in fact, RFC documents are more functional than most other documents. A few even include example source code. -- Peter Samuelson | org-tld!p12n

Re: Bugfix/hardware support updates to stable releases?

2007-08-31 Thread Peter Samuelson
, in that there are multiple tarballs you can download with java-package and only one fails, so the situation is less clear. I'd still consider it something fixable in etch, but I'm neither a RM nor a java-package maintainer. -- Peter Samuelson | org-tld!p12n!peter | http://p12n.org/ signature.asc

Re: what happened to social contract?

2007-08-30 Thread Peter Samuelson
in private so we can negotiate a contract. I won't do it for free, but I might do it if the price is right. -- Peter Samuelson | org-tld!p12n!peter | http://p12n.org/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: what happened to social contract?

2007-08-29 Thread Peter Samuelson
are our users... with our priority is everything icelinux believes might help some subset of our users. To which I can only say, get over yourself. -- Peter Samuelson | org-tld!p12n!peter | http://p12n.org/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: proposed release goal: DEBIAN/md5sums for all packages

2007-08-18 Thread Peter Samuelson
up with lintian getting a special case just to handle your needs. -- Peter Samuelson | org-tld!p12n!peter | http://p12n.org/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: proposed release goal: DEBIAN/md5sums for all packages

2007-08-17 Thread Peter Samuelson
supposed to be any kind of security thing. Why bother to ship it? It is redundant information which can easily be regenerated on the user's system. Russ's mention of packages that alter their installed files in the postinst just seems not worth supporting. Copy a template file instead. -- Peter

Re: proposed release goal: DEBIAN/md5sums for all packages

2007-08-17 Thread Peter Samuelson
from the .deb (because, say, you don't trust your /var), it wouldn't be much harder to do 'dpkg-deb --extract' and then md5sum the extracted directory, than to do 'dpkg-deb --control' and read DEBIAN/md5sums. -- Peter Samuelson | org-tld!p12n!peter | http://p12n.org/ signature.asc Description

Re: proposed release goal: DEBIAN/md5sums for all packages

2007-08-17 Thread Peter Samuelson
, but that is unrelated to the discussion of storing a md5sums file in the .deb. (: -- Peter Samuelson | org-tld!p12n!peter | http://p12n.org/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Request for ideas how to fix #297074

2007-08-14 Thread Peter Samuelson
uses for that. Might also include a -*- tag for emacs. -- Peter Samuelson | org-tld!p12n!peter | http://p12n.org/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: new ICU in experimental

2007-08-13 Thread Peter Samuelson
is occasionally necessary, if an upstream doesn't bump their soname when they should. -- Peter Samuelson | org-tld!p12n!peter | http://p12n.org/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: making debian/copyright machine-interpretable

2007-08-05 Thread Peter Samuelson
GPLv2-only software cannot be distributed as part of a CDDL operating system such as Nexenta - and this has always been true. -- Peter Samuelson | org-tld!p12n!peter | http://p12n.org/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: release update: Release goals, testing transition, arch requalification

2007-08-02 Thread Peter Samuelson
that by their nature don't make sense in IPv6, such as anything related to NAT or the MBone, or whose functionality is provided quite differently in IPv6, such as dhcpd, or clients that require specific non-free IPv4 servers, such as libnet-amazon-perl. I suppose those can stay. -- Peter Samuelson

Re: Installation of Recommends by default on October 1st

2007-08-02 Thread Peter Samuelson
needs another -dev package in the static linking case. Or should that be Suggests? Currently I think most packagers use Depends here, which I believe is too strong. -- Peter Samuelson | org-tld!p12n!peter | http://p12n.org/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: /bin/sh diversions

2007-08-02 Thread Peter Samuelson
differently with regard to argument quoting. Try this in bash: unset foo [ -n $foo ] echo foo is non-empty [[ -n $foo ]] echo foo is non-empty As you can see, only the second one works. -- Peter Samuelson | org-tld!p12n!peter | http://p12n.org/ signature.asc Description: Digital

Re: /bin/sh diversions

2007-08-02 Thread Peter Samuelson
that, don't use [[ ... but if you're going to implement it, implement it correctly. A simple alias to [ is not correct. -- Peter Samuelson | org-tld!p12n!peter | http://p12n.org/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: ITP: ttf-atarismall -- Very small 4 x 8 font

2007-07-31 Thread Peter Samuelson
bother with ttf/otf at all? Just ship it as bdf. -- Peter Samuelson | org-tld!p12n!peter | http://p12n.org/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: FTBFS if built twice in a row

2007-07-07 Thread Peter Samuelson
files? Timestamps in the diff would be ignored. But if the actual file contents of the diff were different, that would IMO be a bug. -- Peter Samuelson | org-tld!p12n!peter | http://p12n.org/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Archive rebuild with improved dpkg-shlibdeps

2007-06-22 Thread Peter Samuelson
@Base specifically. Of course it's useful to report on other symbol versions. -- Peter Samuelson | org-tld!p12n!peter | http://p12n.org/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Archive rebuild with improved dpkg-shlibdeps

2007-06-21 Thread Peter Samuelson
, and is not worth the trouble, since it doesn't affect package relationships or install/remove/upgrade scenarios. Also, please omit @Base from the log messages, it adds visual clutter without adding information. -- Peter Samuelson | org-tld!p12n!peter | http://p12n.org/ signature.asc Description

Re: APT 0.7 for sid

2007-06-10 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Daniel Burrows] I'm in favor of either enabling this by default in apt or downgrading Recommends in policy to just a really Suggests. [snip interesting background material] I would suggest - nay, I would recommend - keeping Policy the way it is and fixing packages to use Recommends as it

Accepted subversion 1.4.4dfsg1-1 (source all i386)

2007-06-08 Thread Peter Samuelson
: source all i386 Version: 1.4.4dfsg1-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Peter Samuelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Peter Samuelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: libapache2-svn - Subversion server modules for Apache libsvn-dev - Development files for Subversion libraries libsvn

Re: Dependencies on shared libs, take 2

2007-06-05 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Josselin Mouette] A possible part of the solution would be a script parsing the diff between headers and emitting warnings such as: * type foo has changed, please check it doesn't affect functions bar/baz/... * enum foo has new possible values, please check it doesn't

Re: Dependencies on shared libs, take 2

2007-06-05 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Russ Allbery] They *usually* do, but not all E tags are certain problems. Of course, maintainers could use overrides. I'm opposed to adding overrides to my packages for cases where, in my view, lintian should somehow have enough information to see the case as a false positive. I use them

Re: Building packages twice in a row

2007-05-16 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Lennart Sorensen] But dpkg-buildpackage will then spit out lots of warnings about being unable to store the deletion of a binary file in the diff. So it will look ugly, but work I guess. dpkg-buildpackage doesn't store _any_ deletions in the diff.gz - the warning about deletions has nothing

Re: passing options to modules loaded in initramfs

2007-05-05 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Martín Ferrari] So, this could be handled by various ways: - Putting notices in relevant places so that everybody can understand what's happening (release notes, FAQs, package documentation..) - Compiling with CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE=y (Ubuntu does this) A growing number of people no longer need

Re: LDAP breaks kcheckpass when not setuid root (#298148)

2007-05-05 Thread Peter Samuelson
On Fri, May 04, 2007 at 11:51:02PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: Actually, you got it backwards, as explained above. pam-ldap isn't using the password hash to check the password. It is passing the password over to the LDAP server (using an LDAP bind), and letting the LDAP server

Re: packages newer in Ubuntu than in Debian (reduced false positives)

2007-05-03 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Bart Martens] I've thought about adding an column for the versions in experimental, but that is not a high priority to me because this does not change that Debian Unstable is outdated for the listed packages. Uh ... I thought the point of your project was to help package maintainers.

apache 1.3 will soon be removed from testing/unstable

2007-04-30 Thread Peter Samuelson
[sean finney] just a heads up, php4 will not be supported in lenny and will be disappearing from the unstable trees sometime in the not too distant future. Same for apache 1.3 (including apache, apache-ssl, apache-perl); it too will soon disappear from sid and lenny. There are currently

Re: apache 1.3 will soon be removed from testing/unstable

2007-04-30 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Matthew Wilcox] Should apache2 Replace/Provide: apache in Lenny in order to facilitate upgrades from Etch? My feeling is no, because migrating a config from one to the other is a Fairly Hard Problem. It was hard enough to try to migrate 2.0 to 2.2, we didn't even get that right in all cases.

Re: Mandatory -dbg packages for libraries? (and API docs too)

2007-04-29 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Neil Williams] I chose Debian as a development platform for my own reasons and my decision was not deemed to be wise in the eyes of some of my upstream colleagues. As the newbie to that particular team, I was under significant pressure to upgrade to Fedora or SuSE. Are you saying Fedora and

Re: 64-bit transition deadline (Re: Etch in the hands of the Stable Release Managers)

2007-04-11 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Luis Matos] CATIA has unix versions ... i don't really know if they will ever have linux versions. I'd be pretty surprised if they ever did. The CATIA 4 architecture would have fit Linux very well, if Dassault had seen a market for it back then (it was based on Motif, OpenGL and a huge

Accepted apache2 2.2.3-4 (source all amd64 i386)

2007-03-27 Thread Peter Samuelson
-perchild Architecture: all amd64 i386 source Version: 2.2.3-4 Distribution: unstable Urgency: high Maintainer: Debian Apache Maintainers debian-apache@lists.debian.org Changed-By: Peter Samuelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: apache2- Next generation, scalable, extendable web server apache2

Re: Compiling Debs on AMD vs. Intel and 32bit vs. 64bit

2007-03-17 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Wouter Verhelst] Both amd64 and x86_64 are names that AMD coined to describe the architecture. They changed their opinion at some point, I don't know which is the most recent name they chose. AMD64 is the newer name. When Intel released their clone chip, the Linux kernel was still using the

Re: May one use ~rc1 within versions although older lintians are complaining?

2007-03-13 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Roman Müllenschläder] So, why are you using a version that's not the one in testing, nor the one in stable? Because my laptop, where I'm building the packages on, is running Edgy ;) I know I'm stating the obvious here ... but you shouldn't try to develop packages for Debian exclusively

Re: On management

2007-03-02 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Roberto C. Sanchez] I am not advocating having a manager without technical competency or the ability to understand technical issues. Just that being a manager does not require being a fourth-degree blackbelt in Perl or having written a textbook on C++ programming. And you think the current

Accepted subversion 1.4.3dfsg1-1 (source all amd64)

2007-01-26 Thread Peter Samuelson
: source all amd64 Version: 1.4.3dfsg1-1 Distribution: experimental Urgency: low Maintainer: Peter Samuelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Peter Samuelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: libapache2-svn - Subversion server modules for Apache libsvn-dev - Development files for Subversion libraries

Re: Suggesting new method to handle dpkg diversions

2007-01-24 Thread Peter Samuelson
[keeping debian-devel CC, this seems to still be relevant] [Goswin von Brederlow] What if each package could list all its current diversions in DEBIAN/diverions (i.e. in the control.tar.gz)? Upon install dpkg would then add those diversions to its list and removed them on deinstall. During

Re: libapache-mod-auth-mysql

2007-01-10 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Raphaël Pinson] Some time ago, libapache-mod-auth-mysql was removed from Debian testing because it didn't work. However, this package is largely used and really needs to be present in Debian. After spending some time trying to find a patch, I finally packaged the new upstream version and

Re: Etch Software RAID Upgrade Trouble Suggested Installer Improvements

2007-01-08 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Claus Fischer] 9. cdrecord's miserable state is well known Like the majority of other Linux users, I wonder when $ burn_my_iso_to_cd iso-file /dev/cdrom will work as expected. Hmmm. $ wodim filename.iso works for most situations. But: 1) You must be root, or a member of

Accepted gpm 1.19.6-24 (source amd64)

2007-01-05 Thread Peter Samuelson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 05:46:52 -0600 Source: gpm Binary: libgpmg1 gpm libgpmg1-dev Architecture: source amd64 Version: 1.19.6-24 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian GPM Team [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Peter Samuelson

Re: Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (4.0/etch)?

2006-11-21 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Martin Zobel-Helas] gpg --recv-keys A70DAF536070D3A1 (gpg --export -a A70DAF536070D3A1 | apt-key add -) Uh, don't forget the part about verifying that the key is actually signed by the ftpmasters. Skipping that step pretty much defeats the entire point. gpg --list-sigs A70DAF536070D3A1

Re: Bug#395262: Arch: all package FTBFS due to test needing network access - RC?

2006-11-10 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Goswin von Brederlow] Do they fail when you use sudo instead of fakeroot or when you run the complete build process as root? The usual reason a package fails with sudo is that it assumes the $(PWD) macro will be available, pointing to the current working directory. sudo does not preserve

Accepted subversion 1.4.2dfsg1-2 (source all amd64)

2006-11-10 Thread Peter Samuelson
: source all amd64 Version: 1.4.2dfsg1-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: Peter Samuelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Peter Samuelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: libapache2-svn - Subversion server modules for Apache libsvn-dev - Development files for Subversion libraries

Accepted subversion 1.4.2dfsg1-1 (source all amd64)

2006-11-09 Thread Peter Samuelson
: source all amd64 Version: 1.4.2dfsg1-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Peter Samuelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Peter Samuelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: libapache2-svn - Subversion server modules for Apache libsvn-dev - Development files for Subversion libraries libsvn

Re: Bug#395262: Arch: all package FTBFS due to test needing network access - RC?

2006-11-02 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Goswin von Brederlow] Real or fake makes no difference. Anything that test id or file permissions will (hopefully) behave the same with fakeroot. Ahh, the difference between theory and practice. fakeroot does not emulate the access(2) system call, which is one obvious thing to use when

Re: Arch: all package FTBFS due to test needing network access - RC?

2006-11-02 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Goswin von Brederlow] Your unspoken premise is that there is a _reason_ to support building packages as root. Why? I think it is better just to tell people not to do that. My premise is that there is no reason to sabotage building as root. Nearly all sources do build as root and many

Re: Arch: all package FTBFS due to test needing network access - RC?

2006-11-02 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Manoj Srivastava] We're not talking about sabotage, we're talking about extra effort. Not really an answer I expected from a DD. I don't mind putting in extra effort when there is some gain to be had. I'm not so excited about putting in extra effort when there is no gain to be had.

Re: .ssh/authorized_keys on alioth is disappearing

2006-11-01 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Norbert Preining] | The SSH keys are not synchronized between alioth.debian.org and | svn.debian.org. so this seems to be outdated. Correct - svn.debian.org _is_ alioth.debian.org, as of last Friday. signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Arch: all package FTBFS due to test needing network access - RC?

2006-11-01 Thread Peter Samuelson
Robert Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I can also note why bazaar wont build as root: its test suite includes a test for the ability to handle read only directories correctly. As root, anything is writable, so this test fails. [Goswin von Brederlow] That test should add a test for root

Re: How can the OS autodetect that a user is a newbie and offer help?

2006-10-19 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Sander Marechal] True, but I meant that an app can kill X, requiring it to be restarted. Newbies get very confused at that point. Look, if you typed startx once, you can type it again. If you didn't, it means you're using a display manager like xdm, and xdm will restart X when it dies. If X

Accepted subversion 1.4.0-5 (source all i386)

2006-10-11 Thread Peter Samuelson
: source all i386 Version: 1.4.0-5 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: Peter Samuelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Peter Samuelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: libapache2-svn - Subversion server modules for Apache libsvn-dev - Development files for Subversion libraries libsvn-doc

Re: gids assigned non-deterministically

2006-10-09 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Roberto C. Sanchez] That is a problem if I want to server everything up out of LDAP. There really should be a reserved range, maybe 100-499 of Debian gids, where they are assigned in a predertmined way. I don't think it's a good idea to put system users and groups into LDAP anyway. They are

Accepted subversion 1.4.0-4 (source all i386)

2006-10-08 Thread Peter Samuelson
: source all i386 Version: 1.4.0-4 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: Peter Samuelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Peter Samuelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: libapache2-svn - Subversion server modules for Apache libsvn-dev - Development files for Subversion libraries libsvn-doc

Re: A plan to get rid of unnecessary package dependencies

2006-10-02 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Loïc Minier] Can't we just tell people to not use *.la files for static linking? The problem is that .la files provide a way to pull in all the dependent libraries for static linking, and unless you also ship .pc files, there is no other automated way to do this. Some people apparently care

Re: A plan to get rid of unnecessary package dependencies

2006-10-02 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Mike Hommey] Why not add support for Libs.private in libtool ? That's essentially what the .la file already provides, with _debian_ libtool. The main problem we have with libtool these days is packages that use their own shipped libtool rather than debian's. Anyway, it's probably easiest

Re: A plan to get rid of unnecessary package dependencies

2006-10-01 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Mike Hommey] A first step in that direction would be to fix .la, .pc and -config files so that they only give the needed libraries. The correct fix for .la files for dynamic linking (remove all dependent libraries, relying on the runtime linker to pull them in recursively) does not work for

Re: A plan to get rid of unnecessary package dependencies

2006-09-26 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Richard Atterer] On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 02:40:49PM -0700, Kevin B. McCarty wrote: Thank you for this very cool effort! Might we see checklib packaged for Debian soon? Hmm, maybe the functionality could be included in lintian? See #340934. Henning wrote this lintian check several

Re: Moving /var/run to a tmpfs?

2006-09-16 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Kurt Roeckx] Afaik, Ubuntu is already using this. As a result, I've actually got a bug against my package submitted because it didn't handle it. My package now recreates the directory from the init script if it's missing, and I'm not really happy about that solution. Why not? 'mkdir -p'

Re: how to treat upgrade bugs that only affect unstable-unstable?

2006-09-14 Thread Peter Samuelson
If a bug was in a prerm script in unstable for 7 days, but never appeared in stable or testing, should we include cruft in present and future prerm versions to work around it? [Henrique de Moraes Holschuh] It depends only on the ammount of damage the bug causes. No damage, it simply

Re: A few problems in sight switching to Debian

2006-09-14 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Gilles Pelletier] I'm not a developer and I'd just like to point a few issues to check for the next release. I'm planning to switch to Debian when Etch comes out but, for now, my findings are from Knoppix. Knoppix and Debian use completely different methods of hardware detection and

Re: Bug#387385: ITP: shed -- Hex editor using ncurses, with a friendly pico-style interface

2006-09-14 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Christoph Berg] - Can handle files up to 2Gb. That's a feature? No, a bug (or rather, doesn't meet a release goal): And more importantly, editing disk partitions which may be larger than 2 GB is a significant use case for a hex editor. signature.asc Description: Digital

how to treat upgrade bugs that only affect unstable-unstable?

2006-09-13 Thread Peter Samuelson
CC: debian-devel, as I'm asking about packaging best practices. [Agustin Martin] * python-subversion.{prerm,postinst}: use pyversions, fix stupid bug (Closes: #379278) in prerm. Tighten python build-dep to ensure availability of pyversions. Note that some upgrades might

Accepted subversion 1.4.0-2 (source all i386)

2006-09-12 Thread Peter Samuelson
Version: 1.4.0-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Guilherme de S. Pastore [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Peter Samuelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: libapache2-svn - Subversion server modules for Apache libsvn-dev - Development files for Subversion libraries libsvn-doc

Accepted subversion 1.4.0-1 (source all i386)

2006-09-09 Thread Peter Samuelson
Version: 1.4.0-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Guilherme de S. Pastore [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Peter Samuelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: libapache2-svn - Subversion server modules for Apache libsvn-dev - Development files for Subversion libraries libsvn-doc

Re: Extended partition creation policy ?

2006-09-08 Thread Peter Samuelson
[David Balazic] I noticed, that when the debian installer is instructed to create two partitions, whose joint size is less than the size of the disk, then it creates one primary partition and one logical partition inside an extended partition. cfdisk does the same thing - however, it also

minutes of debburn/cdrkit team meeting, 2006-09-05

2006-09-06 Thread Peter Samuelson
The debburn/cdrkit maintainers held an IRC meeting on #debburn on irc.debian.org, Tuesday, 2006-09-05, 19:00 UTC. 26 people were in the channel. Participating and actively lurking: * Joerg Jaspert, developer / project admin * Eduard Bloch, developer * Steve McIntyre, developer * Peter

Accepted subversion 1.3.2-6 (source all i386)

2006-09-02 Thread Peter Samuelson
all i386 Version: 1.3.2-6 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Guilherme de S. Pastore [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Peter Samuelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: libapache2-svn - Subversion server modules for Apache libsvn-core-perl - Perl bindings for Subversion libsvn-doc

Accepted subversion 1.4.0~rc5-1 (source all i386)

2006-08-31 Thread Peter Samuelson
Version: 1.4.0~rc5-1 Distribution: experimental Urgency: low Maintainer: Guilherme de S. Pastore [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Peter Samuelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: libapache2-svn - Subversion server modules for Apache libsvn-dev - Development files for Subversion libraries libsvn-doc

Re: The bigger issue is badly licensed blobs (was Re: Firmware poll

2006-08-30 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Nathanael Nerode] So -- point me to the correct parts of the installer. I don't know where to find this anna. svn://svn.debian.org/d-i/trunk/packages/anna signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: apache2.2 uploaded to experimental

2006-08-19 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Thom May] This version is not yet ready for unstable, and hence also not for etch, because it requires more testing. All maintainers of apache modules are encouraged to test their modules against apache2.2 from experimental, and upload tested modules to experimental. In the same vein, we've

Accepted subversion 1.4.0~rc4-2 (source all i386)

2006-08-19 Thread Peter Samuelson
Version: 1.4.0~rc4-2 Distribution: experimental Urgency: low Maintainer: Guilherme de S. Pastore [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Peter Samuelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: libapache2-svn - Subversion server modules for Apache libsvn-dev - Development files for Subversion libraries libsvn-doc

Re: afraid to build from source? (was Re: Remove cdrtools)

2006-08-17 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Wouter Verhelst] It has nothing to do with being afraid to, but everything with not needing to. There's lots of things we don't _need_ to do but we do anyway, as a matter of quality of implementation. I believe that building a package from source is something we should do as well, if only to

Re: Remove cdrtools

2006-08-17 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Steve Greenland] By autoconf related problems I mean things like it suddenly deciding it's running a cross compiler, or that stdlib.h is missing. A lot of this kind of stuff could be improved by simply SHOWING ME THE FSCKING ERROR MESSAGES, rather than just checking the return code and

Re: Remove cdrtools

2006-08-16 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Steve Greenland] My experience is that the ones whose build instructions say edit the makefile to pick your platform and compiler compile and work, and when they don't, they're easy to fix. The ones that use autoconf tend to blow up on non-Linux[1], in ways that are hard to debug and damn

Re: Is inability to operate with root read-only (and separate /etc, /dev, etc) a bug or design decision?

2006-08-16 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Philipp Matthias Hahn] Which doesn't work because of linux-utils-2.12r/mount/fstab.c:55 As I recall, Andries (util-linux upstream) produced, at least a year ago, a kernel patch which allows the kernel to store an extra string of user data from 'mount', and display it in /proc/mounts, so that

afraid to build from source? (was Re: Remove cdrtools)

2006-08-15 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Michael Poole] On top of the default automake behavior being horribly broken, does that make usual revision control practices horribly broken? It really bothers me to hear people claim as a best practice that you should never recompile configure.ac or Makefile.am except under controlled

Re: afraid to build from source?

2006-08-15 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Goswin von Brederlow] The big problem is that those autogenerated build scripts will be non deterministic on the buildd network and on users system. Depending on the installed packages (automake/autoconf versions) you get different results and often failures. :( What low expectations we

Re: afraid to build from source?

2006-08-15 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Goswin von Brederlow] Even make breaks from time to time. I distinctly remeber an update of make that caused problems. There are also several gcc versions that are quite different in their behaviour. Yes, and we treat such instances as bugs and fix them - whether it's fixing your packages or

Re: ITP: subtitleeditor -- Graphical subtitle editor with sound waves representation

2006-08-12 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Amaya Rodrigo Sastre] This program also shows soundwaves which makes it easier for subtitles synchronisation that most other subtitle editors like ksubtile or gaupol. This program also shows sound waves, which makes it easier to synchronise

Re: Is inability to operate with root read-only (and separate /etc, /dev, etc) a bug or design decision?

2006-08-12 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Goswin von Brederlow] Instead move the things in etc that need writing to other places: 1) link /etc/mtab to /proc/mounts and create a dummy /proc/mounts on / for when /proc isn't mounted (works with quota in current kernels). Does the wrong thing with (a) user and (b) loop mounts. [I

Accepted subversion 1.4.0~rc4-1 (source all i386)

2006-08-11 Thread Peter Samuelson
Version: 1.4.0~rc4-1 Distribution: experimental Urgency: low Maintainer: Guilherme de S. Pastore [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Peter Samuelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: libsvn-dev - Development files for Subversion libraries libsvn-doc - Developer documentation for libsvn1 libsvn-java - Java

Re: Bug#378112: ITP: gzrt -- gzip recovery toolkit

2006-07-13 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Martin Wuertele] Please install cpio 2.5 or higher to facilitate recovery from damaged gzipped tarballs. No need to mension it in the description, that's what dependencies are for. Presumably he intends to merely Recommend cpio, in which case it's entirely appropriate to explain why in

Re: Alioth Tracker: no correspondence to BTS?

2006-07-09 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Toni Mueller] I've just poked around a bit in Alioth for a project I'm working on and found a bug report with a bug number that has no resemblance to anything in BTS, quite contrary to my initial assumption. Yeah, the sourceforge software includes a primitive bug tracker which, as far as I

Accepted subversion 1.3.2-2 (source all i386)

2006-06-14 Thread Peter Samuelson
all i386 Version: 1.3.2-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Guilherme de S. Pastore [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Peter Samuelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: libapache2-svn - apache modules for Subversion (aka. svn) libsvn-core-perl - perl bindings for Subversion (aka. svn

Accepted subversion 1.3.2-1 (source all i386)

2006-06-01 Thread Peter Samuelson
all i386 Version: 1.3.2-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Guilherme de S. Pastore [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Peter Samuelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: libapache2-svn - apache modules for Subversion (aka. svn) libsvn-core-perl - perl bindings for Subversion (aka. svn

Re: effectiveness of rsync and apt

2006-05-01 Thread Peter Samuelson
* Goswin von Brederlow: Look at zsync and help develope it far enough so it can look into debs. Without that the gain is practicaly 0 or less. The other thing to do would be to lobby for dpkg-deb and dpkg-source to use 'gzip --rsyncable' when building stuff. (That, or sneak --rsyncable

Re: Lintian package-has-a-duplicate-relation

2006-04-17 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Andreas Metzler] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a way to force a specific library version known in ${shlibs:Depends} ? Why would you want to do that? Don't know about the original poster, but here's my reason: I want to reduce user confusion. Most of the interesting bits of

Re: Debian Light Desktop - meta package

2006-04-14 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Kevin Mark] What about: '100-300MHZ system desktop(XFCE)' Also, based upon the cpu/mem info, display: you machine has a 766MHZ processor with 128MB memory. [x]KDE desktop environment[500mhz or greater] [ ]GNOME desktop evirnoenne[500mhz or greater] [ ]XFCE desktop enviorneme[300mhz or

Accepted subversion 1.3.1-2 (source all i386)

2006-04-09 Thread Peter Samuelson
all i386 Version: 1.3.1-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Guilherme de S. Pastore [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Peter Samuelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: libapache2-svn - apache modules for Subversion (aka. svn) libsvn-core-perl - perl bindings for Subversion (aka. svn

Re: Bug#359662: libpcre3-dev doesn't install libpcre.pc, so pkg-config can't find libpcre

2006-04-03 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Christian Ohm] Now what will someone do who doesn't know how to investigate a failed ./configure run? In my opinion this fits the description of 'important' (a bug which has a major effect on the usability of a package, without rendering it completely unusable to everyone), depending on the

Re: Atftp patch

2006-03-29 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Michael Martinez] Debian packages atftp. You may wish to incorporate the following patch into the distribution: http://atftplocalnet.sourceforge.net/ Your patch looks interesting; the usual way to contact the maintainers of a specific package is to email [EMAIL PROTECTED] - I'm CC'ing

Accepted subversion 1.3.0-5 (source all i386)

2006-03-28 Thread Peter Samuelson
all i386 Version: 1.3.0-5 Distribution: unstable Urgency: high Maintainer: Guilherme de S. Pastore [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Peter Samuelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: libapache2-svn - apache modules for Subversion (aka. svn) libsvn-core-perl - perl bindings for Subversion (aka. svn

Re: Bug#358003: ITP: ttf-dzongkha -- TrueType fonts for Dzongkha language

2006-03-26 Thread Peter Samuelson
On Tue, Mar 21, 2006 at 07:08:02AM +0100, Christian Perrier wrote: Well, I have one very little argument against doing so: why do it for Dzongkha and why not do it for, say, French...:-) [Lionel Elie Mamane] Because French is the adjective in English (the language the package description

Re: shared libraries dependecy problem.

2006-03-20 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Grzegorz Bizon] Linda complains that: W: tleenx2; A binary links against a library that is not depended on. (By the way - shoudn't it be error rather than warning ?) No, because it's sometimes hard to fix and often harmless. We don't like it but error is too strong. I have checked binary

Re: Adding dependencies to e2fsprogs: libdevmapperr, libselinux and libsepoll

2006-03-09 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Steve Langasek] You could also do, e.g.: Build-Depends: [...] libselinux1-dev [alpha amd64 arm hppa i386 ia64 m68k mips mipsel powerpc s390 sparc linux-any] Build-Depends: [...] libselinux1-dev [!hurd-i386 !kfreebsd-i386] When other non-linux ports run into a FTBFS, you add them. Since

but ./configure makes it look so easy, or why cross compiling isn't always trivial

2006-03-09 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Peter Kourzanov] For most of the packages, what is so different in cross-compilation in comparison to native? Whether or not 'configure' believes it can use tests of the form try compiling and running this little program to see what it does. If it is cross-compiling, it is forced to skip

Re: Adding dependencies to e2fsprogs: libdevmapperr, libselinux and libsepoll

2006-03-08 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Michael Banck] Please take into consideration that libselinux is not available on Debian's non-Linux ports. It's not libselinux you should be worried about, but libdevmapper. He's not depending on libselinux directly, but he notes that on Linux systems, the dependency chain will pull it in.

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