Re: Let's remove mips, mipsel, s390 ... [or have strict arch: control? ]

2005-02-28 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Goswin von Brederlow] Which also avoids that packages will be unavailable on every new architecture debian introduces because the maintainer has to adjust the Architecture: line. I suppose it'd be nice to be able to use !foo in the Architecture: line for cases where something is known not to

Re: Let's remove mips, mipsel, s390, ... (Was: [Fwd: Re: GTK+2.0 2.6.2-3 and buildds running out of space])

2005-02-21 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Steve Langasek] The four most common porting problems for software are endianness (differs between i386/amd64 and powerpc), word size (differs between i386/powerpc and amd64), char signedness (differs between i386/amd64 and powerpc), and use of non-PIC code in shared libs (which is a

Re: Let's remove mips, mipsel, s390, ... (Was: [Fwd: Re: GTK+2.0 2.6.2-3 and buildds running out of space])

2005-02-21 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Henrique de Moraes Holschuh] Not from what I know of dist-cc. You just need dist-cc, and nothing else. dist-cc just offloads the number-crunching, so it uses no data from the non-master node. AFAIK anyway (which is NOT much on dist-cc matters). Right. distcc runs the C preprocessor on

Re: Let's remove mips, mipsel, s390, ... (Was: [Fwd: Re: GTK+2.0 2.6.2-3 and buildds running out of space])

2005-02-21 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Pierre Habouzit] I mean that you have no way to say for huge source packages : you only need to build this , this, this and this pacakge. since the changes I've made won't affect the others. As far as mirror bandwidth goes (including end user bandwidth *from* the mirrors), that's a problem

Re: Let's remove mips, mipsel, s390, ... (Was: [Fwd: Re: GTK+2.0 2.6.2-3 and buildds running out of space])

2005-02-21 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Pierre Habouzit] As far as mirror bandwidth goes (including end user bandwidth *from* the mirrors), that's a problem for rsync/zsync to solve. 1- binary backages do not have the same name (so rsync/apt-get are lost) It's still a problem for rsync/zsync to solve. I didn't mean to say

Re: what is /.udev for ?

2005-02-14 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Tollef Fog Heen] Assume makes an ass of u an' me. Why do people keep circulating this saying? It makes no sense. Normally, assuming only ever has the power to make an ass of the person who did the assuming, i.e. me, not u and me. And even then, it's not like you could get very far in life

Re: binaries for different architectures in debian packages

2005-01-25 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Norbert Preining] The last question I have (for now): - How can I install binaries for non-Debian architectures-os combinations (win32, i386-solaris, ...) USING the pacakge management system? Is there a way at all -- or is there no way for this? The real problem is *building* these

Re: binaries for different architectures in debian packages

2005-01-25 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Norbert Preining] Ok, so the solution is to go for a `double' way: - Package debian packages the debian way, ignoring other arch/os combinations. - Build some `non-standard' debian packages which have to be provided in a different way (our web server or something else) which put

Re: Compiling libc4 on Debian unstable

2005-01-13 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Christoph Berg] [0] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $host archive.debian.org archive.debian.org has address 208.185.25.38 [0] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $host 208.185.25.38 38.25.185.208.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer raff.debian.org. google has no trouble finding mirrors for it, though. Peter

Re: Why does Debian distributed firmware not need to be Depends: upon? [was Re: LCC and blobs]

2005-01-10 Thread Peter Samuelson
even in cases where it *is* documented, this is not by any stretch of the imagination a typical use case. [Peter 'p2' De Schrijver] That's not true. Firmware can created by anyone and requires only documentation and a compiler/linker for the target processor. In many cases the CPU

Re: Why does Debian distributed firmware not need to be Depends: upon? [was Re: LCC and blobs]

2005-01-09 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Miguel Gea Milvaques] I don't undestand why software loading files (as we are talking) must be in contrib. An example: xpdf, if you have not a pdf file you could not use it, only it gave us a blank page. You could read a lot of different files, a free pdf files or a non-free pdf files, and

Re: Always run dpkg --dry-run -i before running dpkg -i!

2005-01-08 Thread Peter Samuelson
[William Ballard] I like my transactions to have ACID consistency and dpkg does not have this by design - apt does. You keep using that word. I do no think it means what you think it means. Let's see how ACID-compliant apt install runs are Atomicity - no. Your install does not, for

Re: charsets in debian/control

2004-12-07 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Roger Leigh] I've been using Debian with UTF-8 only locales for over 12 months now. I now consider it fine for general use, with respect to terminal and application support. Unlike a couple of years ago, most things work perfectly. Some apps like 'screen' do not just configure themselves

Re: charsets in debian/control

2004-12-06 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Matthew Garrett] Defining the character set as utf-8 means that any non-unicode capable application is going to have issues, yes. Postulate an app that is ignorant of character sets - we'll call it aptitude. Fixing it to make it accept utf-8 and spit out the correct encoding for its LC_CTYPE

charsets in debian/control

2004-12-05 Thread Peter Samuelson
We seem to be moving to a de facto standard of UTF-8 for non-ASCII characters in debian/control files. This is not specified in Policy [1], but for hopefully obvious reasons, consistency is a Good Thing, and UTF-8 seems to be the best solution for this sort of thing. In my sid control files, I

Re: charsets in debian/control

2004-12-05 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Peter Samuelson] I suggest that the affected source packages[3] be run through the command 'iconv -f ORIGINAL_CHARSET -t utf-8' as soon as convenient. Ehhh, I see I have already ruined my credibility by pasting the wrong source package list. The real list is much shorter. Apologies, Peter

Re: charsets in debian/control

2004-12-05 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Steinar H. Gunderson] Transliterating is somewhat of a kludge (and I think in most cases UTF-8 is a much better solution); OTOH I'd rapidly get confused in the list of Japanese maintainers if their names weren't transliterated. I think it's a valid choice for a maintainer who natively

Re: charsets in debian/control

2004-12-05 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Marco d'Itri] Would people support a mass bug at minor severity? Make it normal. Given that Policy recommends debian/changelog to be utf-8, coupled with the observation (which I had not thought of) that various tools may require a maintainer's name in debian/control and debian/changelog to

Re: charsets in debian/control

2004-12-05 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Thaddeus H. Black] Would Peter permit me a mild dissent? I prefer Latin-1. Dissents are fine. (: The reason to go with UTF-8 is for consistency. Tools that wish to render text onto the screen ought to be able to depend on knowing the encoding that text is in. See below for why I (and many

Re: tar -I incompatibility

2001-01-10 Thread Peter Samuelson
[cas] on every non-linux machine i have to use, the first thing i do is download and compile all the GNU tools including tar. i then change the PATH setting to include /usr/local/bin/gnu at the start. I used to do that, but then I got burned by 'df'. Debugging that one involved wading

Re: Bug#66084: lvm: 0.8i - 0.8final migration

2000-08-18 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Tom Lees [EMAIL PROTECTED]] however, this does still leave a big problem: how to handle the upgrade from 0.8i to 0.8final. If you are currently using LVM 0.8i, then upgrade to 0.8final, LVM will stop working unless you also recompile your kernel. Aye, there's the rub. It's a design problem

Re: A few changes

1999-09-23 Thread Peter Samuelson
: fixed since DDMM. -- Peter Samuelson sampo.creighton.edu!psamuels

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