Re: [OT] maildir (was Re: procmail and Large File Support)

2005-02-27 Thread Ron Johnson
On Mon, 2005-02-28 at 11:54 +1100, Paul Hampson wrote: On Sun, Feb 27, 2005 at 06:51:32PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: On Sun, 2005-02-27 at 18:19 -0500, sean finney wrote: recent versions of kernel/ext2/ext3 have built-in dirent hashing, which cuts heavily on the many-files penalty

Re: [OT] maildir (was Re: procmail and Large File Support)

2005-02-27 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sun, 2005-02-27 at 20:54 -0500, Glenn Maynard wrote: On Sun, Feb 27, 2005 at 06:51:32PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: Of course, all of these factors depend on the file system used. I am confident somebody could point out a file-system that eliminates many Reiserfs, of course. You

Re: [OT] maildir

2005-02-27 Thread Ron Johnson
On Mon, 2005-02-28 at 02:05 +, Henning Makholm wrote: Scripsit Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, 2005-02-28 at 11:54 +1100, Paul Hampson wrote: I thought it was illegal to modify a message. Status: O? I don't know what that means. It means that the message is not marked

Re: [OT] maildir (was Re: procmail and Large File Support)

2005-02-27 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sun, 2005-02-27 at 22:26 -0500, sean finney wrote: On Sun, Feb 27, 2005 at 06:51:32PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: That seems awfully huge. In my (Maildir) archive of d-u, the average size is 4,959 bytes. Of course, there are no html mails. Though, even in my Evolution list archive, where

Re: procmail and Large File Support

2005-02-26 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sat, 2005-02-26 at 10:23 +, Colin Watson wrote: On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 07:45:47PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: On Sat, 2005-02-26 at 00:53 +0100, Santiago Vila wrote: I have several reports saying procmail does not support mbox folders larger than 2GB. Questions: OT here

Re: mplayer, the time has come

2005-02-25 Thread Ron Johnson
. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA PGP Key ID 8834C06B I prefer encrypted mail. Clearly the allies may not like it, and I think that's our great concern - where's the backbone of Russia, where's the backbone of France, where are they in expressing their condemnation of such clearly

Re: procmail and Large File Support

2005-02-25 Thread Ron Johnson
? -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA PGP Key ID 8834C06B I prefer encrypted mail. LUKE: Is Perl better than Python? YODA: No... no... no. Quicker, easier, more seductive. LUKE: But how will I know why Python is better than Perl? YODA: You will know. When your code you try to read six months from now

Re: Does this break binary compatability on 64bit architectures?

2005-02-24 Thread Ron Johnson
? -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA PGP Key ID 8834C06B I prefer encrypted mail. $ python -c 'print len(str(2**300))' 903090 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: amd64 is already the 2nd most important arch (WasRe: Let's remove mips, mipsel, s390, ... (Was: [Fwd: Re: GTK+2.0 2.6.2-3 and buildds running out of space])

2005-02-22 Thread Ron Johnson
: AMD64 will probably be supported by all serious distributions, while Debian is, from what I recall, the *only* way to get a sensible Unix installation on many of the less common systems. NetBSD? -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA

Re: Let's remove mips, mipsel, s390, ...

2005-02-21 Thread Ron Johnson
power of the machine it's hosted on. What about Hercules? -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA PGP Key ID 8834C06B I prefer encrypted mail. GGLX : Gnome GNU Linux X.Org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: The Debian exim 4 packages suck badly on exim-users@exim.org

2005-02-18 Thread Ron Johnson
of upstream ? Yes. Or vaguely. Depends on the level of newbieness. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA PGP Key ID 8834C06B I prefer encrypted mail. Don't tell me peace has broken out. Bertolt Brecht -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: what is /.udev for ?

2005-02-17 Thread Ron Johnson
be on, and after sarge the default can be switched to off. Or do a boot-time check to see which kernel is running? -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA PGP Key ID 8834C06B I prefer encrypted mail. [Hitler] has grasped

Re: what is /.udev for ?

2005-02-12 Thread Ron Johnson
it and using the proper tools for the job, is not thinking straight. 'rm' is not a proper tool for file removal? Rules to live by: Look before you leap. Measure twice, cut once. Google it! -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA PGP

Re: what is /.udev for ?

2005-02-12 Thread Ron Johnson
. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA PGP Key ID 8834C06B I prefer encrypted mail. Regarding war zones: There's nothing sacrosanct about a hotel with a bunch of journalists in it. Marine Lt. Gen. Bernard E. Trainor (Retired) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL

Re: what is /.udev for ?

2005-02-12 Thread Ron Johnson
for amateurs? It is But is not wise to develop software that depends on it. Too true. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA PGP Key ID 8834C06B I prefer encrypted mail. Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I

Re: what is /.udev for ?

2005-02-10 Thread Ron Johnson
On Thu, 2005-02-10 at 10:11 +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: On Feb 10, Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So what?, you say. Well, data should only be listed once, not twice. gtkdiskfree sums up all total and free disk space, and having /.dev in there totally distorts the truth

Re: what is /.udev for ?

2005-02-10 Thread Ron Johnson
. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA PGP Key ID 8834C06B I prefer encrypted mail. Today, it is not only that our kings do not know mathematics, but our philosophers do not know mathematics. Julius Robert Oppenheimer (1904-1967) signature.asc Description

Re: what is /.udev for ?

2005-02-10 Thread Ron Johnson
it for the site of a Halloween party. If you are concerned that your box has been breached: - pull the Ethernet cable - turn it off - go to another computer and start Googling -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA PGP Key ID 8834C06B I

Re: what is /.udev for ?

2005-02-10 Thread Ron Johnson
. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA PGP Key ID 8834C06B I prefer encrypted mail. Those who would give up essential Liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither Liberty nor safety. or something like that Ben Franklin, maybe signature.asc Description: This is a digitally

Re: what is /.udev for ?

2005-02-09 Thread Ron Johnson
105280504 78681360 21251108 79% /data /dev 9843308 5428016 3915272 59% /.dev none5120 2564 2556 51% /dev -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA PGP Key ID 8834C06B I prefer

Re: what is /.udev for ?

2005-02-09 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2005-02-09 at 12:43 -0800, Ben Pfaff wrote: Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: One thing I do know is that traditional apps like df (and anything that uses stat(), I guess) don't know about /.dev, and so return false information: $ df Filesystem 1K-blocks

Re: what is /.udev for ?

2005-02-09 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2005-02-09 at 19:24 -0600, Steve Greenland wrote: On 09-Feb-05, 19:12 (CST), Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So what?, you say. Well, data should only be listed once, not twice. gtkdiskfree sums up all total and free disk space, and having /.dev in there totally distorts

Re: Bug#293572: RFP: lpr-via-http -- a web frontend for lpr queue monitoring and management

2005-02-04 Thread Ron Johnson
, especially with a distant lpr server. LPR via HTTP depends on a web server with Perl support (mod_perl advised) and LPRng (not tested with the old LPR). It assumes that the Should it then be named lprng-via-http? -- - Ron

Re: Bug#292831: udev: udev prevents X from beeing started

2005-01-31 Thread Ron Johnson
problems by installation. Unfortunately, GNOME depends on hal, and hal depends on udev. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA PGP Key ID 8834C06B I prefer encrypted mail. If thine enemy offend thee, give his child a drum. Chinese

Re: Bug#292831: udev: udev prevents X from beeing started

2005-01-31 Thread Ron Johnson
On Mon, 2005-01-31 at 15:58 +0100, Christoph Hellwig wrote: On Mon, Jan 31, 2005 at 12:45:42PM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Mon, 31 Jan 2005, Ron Johnson wrote: Unfortunately, GNOME depends on hal, and hal depends on udev. If it does indeed depend on udev, how does

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-31 Thread Ron Johnson
On Mon, 2005-01-31 at 09:32 -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Parents are *supposed* to censor what their children see. They are also supposed to educate their children. Yes, but it's the job of *parents* to do that. If you want me to do

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-29 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sat, 2005-01-29 at 13:49 +0100, Jesus Climent wrote: On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 09:22:13AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: an advice for they: 1) make a script to mirror from http://www.dmoz.org/Kids_and_Teens/ 2) unplug their computer from the network 3) stop bothering the rest

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-29 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sat, 2005-01-29 at 15:01 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: Jesus, On Sat, Jan 29, 2005 at 01:49:20PM +0100, Jesus Climent wrote: On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 09:22:13AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: an advice for they: 1) make a script to mirror from http://www.dmoz.org/Kids_and_Teens

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-26 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2005-01-26 at 22:31 +0100, David Weinehall wrote: On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 10:32:13PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: On Wed, 2005-01-26 at 03:38 +0100, Uwe A. P. Wuerdinger wrote: Ron Johnson schrieb: On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 12:34 +0200, Kalle Kivimaa wrote: [-snip-] [snip

[OT] Re: NEW queue and ftp-master approval

2005-01-25 Thread Ron Johnson
On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 01:40 -0600, Joe Wreschnig wrote: On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 01:06 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 07:39 +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, 2005-01-24 at 22:28 +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote

Re: apply to NM? ha!

2005-01-25 Thread Ron Johnson
. That usualy only works if you recognise them as females and can lead to quite the oposite as well sometimes. :) Oh, you mean we should use video mails or such? Now that's a scary thought... -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA PGP Key

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread Ron Johnson
. They don't want this inappropriate material dumped into their children's laps right along side the things that the parents *do* consider appropriate. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA PGP Key ID 8834C06B I prefer encrypted mail

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread Ron Johnson
On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 12:34 +0200, Kalle Kivimaa wrote: Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The problem is things/websites/etc that many parents don't think are appropriate for their children. These parents are free to install whatever traffic blocker they feel appropriate. Debian

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread Ron Johnson
On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 12:15 +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: * Ron Johnson | They don't want this inappropriate material dumped into their | children's laps right along side the things that the parents *do* | consider appropriate. Then they should supervise their child's use of the computer

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread Ron Johnson
On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 12:15 +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: * Ron Johnson | They don't want this inappropriate material dumped into their | children's laps right along side the things that the parents *do* | consider appropriate. Then they should supervise their child's use of the computer

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread Ron Johnson
On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 05:57 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 12:15 +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: * Ron Johnson | They don't want this inappropriate material dumped into their | children's laps right along side the things that the parents *do* | consider appropriate

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread Ron Johnson
On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 12:09 +0100, Frank Küster wrote: Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem is things/websites/etc that many parents don't think are appropriate for their children. They don't want this inappropriate material dumped into their children's laps right along

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread Ron Johnson
On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 13:46 +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 12:34 +0200, Kalle Kivimaa wrote: Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The problem is things/websites/etc that many parents don't think are appropriate

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread Ron Johnson
On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 14:55 +0100, Jesus Climent wrote: On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 12:34:38PM +0200, Kalle Kivimaa wrote: Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [snip] Up until a certain age the parents should be responsible for keeping control on the machine itself, the software it has installed

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread Ron Johnson
On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 14:04 +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: * Ron Johnson | On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 12:15 +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: | * Ron Johnson [snip] Then perhaps they should get to see porn if they want to? Or filter URLs in your gateway or whatever -- I really don't see why

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread Ron Johnson
On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 14:05 +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: Op di, 25-01-2005 te 06:00 -0600, schreef Ron Johnson: On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 12:15 +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: * Ron Johnson | They don't want this inappropriate material dumped into their | children's laps right along

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread Ron Johnson
On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 13:59 +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: Op di, 25-01-2005 te 04:30 -0600, schreef Ron Johnson: On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 11:04 +0100, Frank Küster wrote: Good idea. dosage went even a step further: It doesn't include any of those comics at all. http://slipgate.za.net

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread Ron Johnson
On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 14:48 +0100, Jesus Climent wrote: On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 04:30:08AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: So where's the problem? The problem is things/websites/etc that many parents don't think are appropriate for their children. They don't want this inappropriate

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread Ron Johnson
On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 15:25 +0100, Jorge Bernal wrote: El Martes 25 Enero 2005 11:30, Ron Johnson escribió: The problem is things/websites/etc that many parents don't think are appropriate for their children. They don't want this inappropriate material dumped into their children's laps

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread Ron Johnson
On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 15:02 +, Will Newton wrote: On Tuesday 25 Jan 2005 14:59, Ron Johnson wrote: You have the option to *not* install them on your machine. John Ashcroft is not holding a gun to your head making you install it. I want to have more options than just to do or do

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread Ron Johnson
On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 16:44 +0100, Jorge Bernal wrote: El Martes 25 Enero 2005 15:42, Ron Johnson escribió: But if MadamAndEve is not on the list of supported comics that I've installed for dosage, then there's no need to explain. Parenting is already busy enough trying to help them

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread Ron Johnson
On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 17:35 +0100, Frank Küster wrote: Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This sounds a bit like the gun control debate. I don't want the sharp hooks removed. I want them put in boxes (i.e. packages) where they can be easily installed by root, but aren't just

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread Ron Johnson
On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 11:27 -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote: Ron Johnson dijo [Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 08:24:57AM -0600]: Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [snip] Up until a certain age the parents should be responsible for keeping control on the machine itself, the software it has

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread Ron Johnson
. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA PGP Key ID 8834C06B I prefer encrypted mail. A busy mother makes slothful daughters. Unknown signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread Ron Johnson
they have examined the comics. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA PGP Key ID 8834C06B I prefer encrypted mail. Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms [of government] those entrusted with power have, in time

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2005-01-26 at 01:46 +0200, Tristan Seligmann wrote: On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 17:15:00 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: Following fortune's model, this is what I'm thinking: dosage dosage-comics dosage-comics-off See there's no censorship here... Where do you draw the line, though

Re: Slightly Off Topic: Laptops for Debian

2005-01-25 Thread Ron Johnson
, but you can at least use a pcmcia card there (on the 15 and 17 ones). One issue, though, is w32codecs. Is there a PPC analog to w32codecs? -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA PGP Key ID 8834C06B I prefer encrypted mail. I take my

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2005-01-26 at 03:38 +0100, Uwe A. P. Wuerdinger wrote: Ron Johnson schrieb: On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 12:34 +0200, Kalle Kivimaa wrote: [-snip-] And yes, I've already thought of that. However, I'd rather some things (URLs, in this case) not be dropped my children's laps, even

Re: NEW queue and ftp-master approval

2005-01-24 Thread Ron Johnson
? -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA PGP Key ID 8834C06B I prefer encrypted mail. Why do we have to hide from the police, Daddy? Because we use vi, son. They use emacs. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed

Re: NEW queue and ftp-master approval

2005-01-24 Thread Ron Johnson
On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 07:39 +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, 2005-01-24 at 22:28 +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [snip] have to be done for NEW packages, e.g. inform some U.S

[OT] observational behavioral studies (was Re: apply to NM? ha!)

2005-01-24 Thread Ron Johnson
* of women join, and then there just as much aggression as before, but in a different format. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA PGP Key ID 8834C06B I prefer encrypted mail. An economist is a man who states the obvious in terms

Re: rudeness in general

2005-01-10 Thread Ron Johnson
means Go read the documentation, that's what it's for? -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA PGP Key ID 8834C06B I prefer encrypted mail. I need an expert on the pain I'm goin' thru, so I keep George on the ol' turn table 'till I'm

Re: If you really want Free firmware...

2004-12-14 Thread Ron Johnson
to convince the consumer that they need the product, and will thus pay more than, for example, cost of goods sold + 8% profit. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA PGP Key ID 8834C06B I prefer encrypted mail. My husband and I are either

Re: If you really want Free firmware...

2004-12-14 Thread Ron Johnson
On Tue, 2004-12-14 at 14:42 -0800, Bruce Perens wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: The *price* of product has *nothing* to do with how much it *cost* to create. In a purely competitive market the price of goods would approach their cost. The system of intellectual property is a barrier

Re: udev.rules configuration

2004-12-13 Thread Ron Johnson
tools can still use /dev/isdninfo. For a complete bug report, see http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=277315 Thanks for keeping the package uptodate, even if I have to edit udev.rules frequently ;-) -- - Ron

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-12 Thread Ron Johnson
, and if there is any other commandment, are all summed up in this saying, namely, You shall love your neighbor as yourself. /QUOTE But, exegesis is a thorny topic, and really shouldn't be on d-devel. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA PGP Key

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-12 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sun, 2004-12-12 at 22:24 +1300, Philip Charles wrote: On Sun, 12 Dec 2004, Ron Johnson wrote: On Sun, 2004-12-12 at 02:18 +0100, Robert Millan wrote: On Tue, Dec 07, 2004 at 01:06:11PM +0900, Clemens Schwaighofer wrote: True, the Koran just invites to kill your ennemy bloodily

Re: amd64: ftp-masters questions

2004-12-11 Thread Ron Johnson
. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA PGP Key ID 8834C06B I prefer encrypted mail. The United States is not a nation to which peace is a necessity. Grover Cleveland signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Linux Core Consortium

2004-12-10 Thread Ron Johnson
. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA PGP Key ID 8834C06B I prefer encrypted mail. Vegetarian - an old Indian word meaning 'lousy hunter'. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Linux Core Consortium

2004-12-10 Thread Ron Johnson
processes and QA are all fucked up. We'll just have to send someone who knows how to do that. :) -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA PGP Key ID 8834C06B I prefer encrypted mail. If you don't know how to do something, you don't know

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-10 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2004-12-10 at 22:48 +1100, Russell Coker wrote: On Thursday 09 December 2004 14:06, Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're coming very late to the conversation. A District Attorney angling for higher office or someone in the Morality Police (think Saudi Arabia) or a petty

Re: LCC and blobs

2004-12-10 Thread Ron Johnson
devices depend on a non-free firmware blob to operate. Why does it Most ? Or are you stretching beyond reason, to include stuff like the BIOS, which isn't in the kernel? -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA PGP Key ID 8834C06B I

Re: SVG icons

2004-12-09 Thread Ron Johnson
On Thu, 2004-12-09 at 15:49 +0900, Mike Hommey wrote: On Wed, Dec 08, 2004 at 09:16:06PM -0600, Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Note that's a may and a should, not a must. IIRC they only trigger lintian warnings, not errors. If I tell my son, You may not go play in the rain., he

Re: Linux Core Consortium

2004-12-09 Thread Ron Johnson
On Thu, 2004-12-09 at 14:33 -0600, John Hasler wrote: Daniel Jacobowitz writes: Using binaries from LCC would also run against the Debian principle of always building Debian packages from their source before uploading them

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-08 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2004-12-08 at 19:57 +1100, Russell Coker wrote: On Wednesday 08 December 2004 07:42, Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fortunately, though, pictures of naked dogs are *not* considered to be appealing to prurient interests. Unless, *maybe*, a hyper- horny 13 year old boy

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-08 Thread Ron Johnson
the only country that has various forms of content restrictions. Thus, non-US isn't sufficient. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA PGP Key ID 8834C06B I prefer encrypted mail. Peace is not only better than war, but infinitely more

Re: Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-08 Thread Ron Johnson
Attorney angling for higher office or someone in the Morality Police (think Saudi Arabia) or a petty member of the CCP might not care about there will be conflicts like this. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA PGP Key ID 8834C06B I

Re: Is Debian a common carrier? Was: package rejection

2004-12-08 Thread Ron Johnson
Afghanistan. Calmly discussing peoples' should beliefs is a worthy task. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA PGP Key ID 8834C06B I prefer encrypted mail. [QUOTE] Casey asked Johnson if doctors tell a woman that the abortion

Re: SVG icons

2004-12-08 Thread Ron Johnson
. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA PGP Key ID 8834C06B I prefer encrypted mail. Supporting World Peace Through Nuclear Pacification signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Status of this ITP?

2004-12-08 Thread Ron Johnson
by people who don't see him face-to-face. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA PGP Key ID 8834C06B I prefer encrypted mail. An ad run by the NEA (the US's biggest public school TEACHERS UNION) in the Spring and Summer of 2003 asks

Re: Linux Core Consortium

2004-12-08 Thread Ron Johnson
would not suggest that Debian commit to using LCC packages at this time. If Debian decides that it would not be in Debian's best interest to follow the LCC implementation, then guess what: it doesn't have to... -- - Ron Johnson, Jr

Re: Status of this ITP?

2004-12-08 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2004-12-08 at 19:36 -0800, Brian Nelson wrote: On Wed, Dec 08, 2004 at 09:26:00PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: On Wed, 2004-12-08 at 11:30 -0600, Steve Greenland wrote: On 08-Dec-04, 11:15 (CST), Luis R. Rodriguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Get off your ass. Ah. I see

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-07 Thread Ron Johnson
On Tue, 2004-12-07 at 20:31 +1100, Russell Coker wrote: On Tuesday 07 December 2004 11:22, Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2004-12-07 at 10:01 +1100, Brian May wrote: So are you saying I should take my web pages of my naked dogs down? Depends on who's prurient interests

Re: Is Debian a common carrier? Was: package rejection

2004-12-07 Thread Ron Johnson
anything regarding Nazism. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA PGP Key ID 8834C06B I prefer encrypted mail. After seeing all the viruses, trojan horses, worms and Reply mails from stupidly-configured anti-virus software that's been

Re: Debian's status as a legal entity and how it could effect a potential defense.

2004-12-06 Thread Ron Johnson
... -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA PGP Key ID 8834C06B I prefer encrypted mail. It's springtime for Hitler, and Germany... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-06 Thread Ron Johnson
of families with young children. A parent video-taped the scene, found a local sheriff, and the off- enders were arrested. The convictions were held up on appeal. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA PGP Key ID 8834C06B I prefer

Re: Debian's status as a legal entity and how it could effect a potential defense.

2004-12-06 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sun, 2004-12-05 at 22:08 -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A legal opinion on this matter would be a good idea... Keep in mind that Debian is not the U in question; Debian has no obligation to conform to some U's self-censorship policies. That's

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-06 Thread Ron Johnson
are presenting pictures that appeal to the prurient interest and lacks serious literary, artistic, political or scientific value, then you very well might be violating your ISP's AUP. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA PGP Key ID

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-06 Thread Ron Johnson
of greater good. And how independent it is from being conservative or liberal [in the original meaning of these words]. Censorship is trying to get the upstream website taken down. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA PGP Key ID

Re: Hot-Babe non-controversial images

2004-12-06 Thread Ron Johnson
. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA PGP Key ID 8834C06B I prefer encrypted mail. Eagles may soar, but weasles don't get sucked into jet engines signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-06 Thread Ron Johnson
there. Ok, I'll bite: which file? -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA PGP Key ID 8834C06B I prefer encrypted mail. ACHTUNG - ALLES LOOKENPEEPERS Das Machine is nicht fur gefingerpoken und mittengrabben. Ist easy schnappen der

Re: Debian's status as a legal entity and how it could effect a potential defense.

2004-12-06 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sun, 2004-12-05 at 22:33 -0800, Bruce Perens wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: That's true. Debian doesn't *have* to be mirrored *anywhere*. I have not so far seen what you are going to tell the mirror operators so that they know what packages to reject. Surely you can not believe

Re: Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-06 Thread Ron Johnson
On Mon, 2004-12-06 at 15:36 +0900, Mike Hommey wrote: On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 09:13:29PM -0600, Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No. We are not calling on the Morality Police to take the particular web site down. We are not saying, you can not install that app on your computer

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-06 Thread Ron Johnson
don't see them shutting down the Louvre. Because the paintings/statues in the Louvre are considered bona fide works of art, having serious literary, artistic, educational or scientific value. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA

Re: Debian's status as a legal entity and how it could effect a potential defense.

2004-12-06 Thread Ron Johnson
and regulations, send managers to tolerance training sessions, make employees take sensitivity training classes, blah, blah, blah. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA PGP Key ID 8834C06B I prefer encrypted mail. Legality/morality of using

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-06 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sun, 2004-12-05 at 22:49 -0800, Don Armstrong wrote: On Mon, 06 Dec 2004, Ron Johnson wrote: On Mon, 2004-12-06 at 07:03 +0100, Miros/law Baran wrote: 6.12.2004 pisze Brian May ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Also, to the best my knowledge the kernel doesn't contain any pictures of naked

Re: Debian's status as a legal entity and how it could effect a potential defense.

2004-12-06 Thread Ron Johnson
(even if the defendant wins, since TV/newspapers tend only to tell you about the accusation, not the acquittal), just the fear of being sued has caused a lot of money to be spent on unproductive things. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-06 Thread Ron Johnson
On Mon, 2004-12-06 at 00:39 -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 22:32:29 -0600, Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Sun, 2004-12-05 at 19:24 -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There's a *fundamental* difference between don't want

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-06 Thread Ron Johnson
! -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA PGP Key ID 8834C06B I prefer encrypted mail. All machines, no matter how complex, are considered to be based on 6 simple elements: the lever, the pulley, the wheel and axle, the screw, the wedge and the inclined plane. Marilyn Vos Savant

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-06 Thread Ron Johnson
On Mon, 2004-12-06 at 00:38 -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 20:50:25 -0600, Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Sun, 2004-12-05 at 15:07 +, Andrew Suffield wrote: On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 08:45:56AM -0600, Steve Greenland wrote: On 05-Dec-04, 04:55 (CST), James

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-06 Thread Ron Johnson
On Mon, 2004-12-06 at 01:06 -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 00:48:47 -0600, Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Mon, 2004-12-06 at 00:27 -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Sun, 5 Dec 2004 15:49:08 -0500, William Ballard [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Sun, Dec 05

Re: Debian's status as a legal entity and how it could effect a potential defense.

2004-12-06 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sun, 2004-12-05 at 23:18 -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Don't worry, that's not how hostile environment harassment law works. IIRC, it's based on a reasonable person test, and is extremely complex. It all depends on your definition

Re: Debian's status as a legal entity and how it could effect a potential defense.

2004-12-06 Thread Ron Johnson
On Mon, 2004-12-06 at 02:04 -0500, Kevin Mark wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 12:24:19AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: On Sun, 2004-12-05 at 22:08 -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A legal opinion

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-06 Thread Ron Johnson
On Mon, 2004-12-06 at 01:18 -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 01:08:31 -0600, Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Mon, 2004-12-06 at 00:57 -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Sun, 5 Dec 2004 22:57:19 +0100, Jan Ingvoldstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Here's one useful

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-06 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sun, 2004-12-05 at 23:44 -0800, Bruce Perens wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: Legal, illegal, what's the difference? *I* want to package it. Therefore, anyone who tries to stop me is censoring me. Nobody can stop you from creating a package of it. Folks on the Debian project can

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