too funny to not pass on...

2000-09-14 Thread Seth Cohn
from debian-freshmeat, where we are talking about setting up the new DFMR (Debian Freshmeat Repository) Seth: b) apt-get able, so it's a ftp and/or http site, and a single line to stick into etc/apt/sources.list Jeff Covey of freshmeat: this would rock. hhos we'll have to work with the apt

Re: KDE2 - nice demolition job ...

2000-09-13 Thread Seth Cohn
On Mon, 11 Sep 2000, erik wrote: I just can't keep my mouth shut about this any longer and the unnecassary divisions (read demolitions) of KDE packages are the last straw: I've been tracking the development of KDE2 for months and running it quite successfully using unofficial debs (cheers to

Re: KDE2 - nice demolition job ...

2000-09-13 Thread Seth Cohn
BTW, the rant has been a long time coming - this just keyed it. Purpose of Rant: Stir up the coals ... Hey erik, grow up. Debian has enough flamewars without you stirring the coals intentionally. 'The broken update happened 20 minutes before the rant' HUH? Geez. plonk Seth -- To

Re: ITP: spong

2000-09-13 Thread Seth Cohn
At 07:26 PM 09/13/2000 +0300, Pekka Aleksi Knuutila wrote: Spong is a simple systems and network monitoring package. It does not compete with Tivoli, OpenView, UniCenter, or any other commercial packages. It is not SNMP based, it communcates via simple TCP based messages. It is written in perl

digest version broken?

2000-09-12 Thread Seth Cohn
I was getting both user and devel as digests, and both went quiet. I subscribed to both as digest again, in case I'd been knocked off the list, and still nothing, so I subscribed as non-digest and I'm getting email, enough that it should have kicked out a digest, but still no digest. Looks like

Re: RFC: GUI tools for common Debian admin tasks

2000-09-08 Thread Seth Cohn
At 10:13 PM 09/07/2000 +, you wrote: I don't object to a web-browser, personally. I do object to having to install and configure a Web server (!!) to set up the machine, for the same reason I object to needing a Web server to view documentation (eg, doc-central depends on apache). Webmin

Webmin works... was Re: RFC: GUI tools for common Debian admin tasks

2000-09-07 Thread Seth Cohn
On Thu, 7 Sep 2000, Frederic Peters wrote: Agreed. If you want to do something USEFUL, write a better webmin, debconf or linuxconf module. - webmin: I think it is useful (and nice) not to have to launch mozilla to add an user or change a password. Excuse me? if you don't want to

Re: RFC: GUI tools for common Debian admin tasks

2000-09-07 Thread Seth Cohn
On Thu, 7 Sep 2000, Nate Duehr wrote: Linuxconf is very broken (and it's documented in the Readme's provided with the .deb) on Debian, and it mangles perfectly good config files into nasty-looking ones that sysadmins who prefer vi usually dislike reading. Another point in webmin's favor. I

Re: RFC: GUI tools for common Debian admin tasks

2000-09-07 Thread Seth Cohn
This is good for Debian, since we want something cross-platform, and possibly even cross-kernel (Hurd, anyone?). Adding a network config for Debian, Rene Mayrhofer said he was making a start on this. He's away for a few weeks, when he gets back, I'll find out how far he's come. a dpkg/apt

Re: RFC: GUI tools for common Debian admin tasks

2000-09-06 Thread Seth Cohn
So, yes, why reinvent the wheel, if there are allready n^x conftools around with a new one popping up monthly (webmin, COAS, linuxconf, debconf, yast, ..., ..., ...) ? It's not going to make anything easier. Agreed. If you want to do something USEFUL, write a better webmin, debconf or linuxconf

Re: ITP: Biomail - automated medical searcher

2000-08-21 Thread Seth Cohn
Author is excited about getting this packaged for Debian. Homepage is http://biomail.sourceforge.net NIce news. This saves me some work I wanted to do since I visited the lession about BioMail on the conference in Bordeaux. Go for it! I think this will go into contrib, since it uses

Offtopic: Re: FW: Firewall Project

2000-08-21 Thread Seth Cohn
Offtopic, very much so. But the answer is, it's totally suitable... and commericial Linux based solutions exist, if they don't want to roll their own (for liability reasons, they might not). Try www.watchguard.com for one such answer. please follow up via email... this list is not the right

ITP: Biomail - automated medical searcher

2000-08-19 Thread Seth Cohn
Package: wnpp Version: N/A; reported 2000-08-19 Severity: important Author is excited about getting this packaged for Debian. Homepage is http://biomail.sourceforge.net License is GPL I think this will go into contrib, since it uses PubMed's database, and it is pretty useless without access to

Re: Subpackaging

2000-08-18 Thread Seth Cohn
On Fri, 18 Aug 2000, Anthony Towns wrote: It's not *entirely* clear that including the above in the .deb itself is even the best way of doing things though. Everything in the above is entirely package-independent except for the doc lines, and they can be determined simply by saying everything

Re: Potato now stable

2000-08-16 Thread Seth Cohn
On Wed, 16 Aug 2000, Bas Zoetekouw wrote: Has anyone has looked into porting this [Kudzu] to Debian? Mandrake, too, includes a hardware detection libarary (libdetect). Some time ago, Dan Helfman [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cc'ed him), was busy packaging it. Dan, have you had any luck yet adapting

Re: Potato now stable

2000-08-16 Thread Seth Cohn
I recall reading a few months ago about a plan to merge ALL of the existing hardware detection routines into one lump, in order to consolidate work and effort. The proposal was met with acceptance by many (if not all) of the major developers (Mandrake, Redhat, Suse, Turbo) please post if

Bug#69271: general: why not a praise tracking system?

2000-08-16 Thread Seth Cohn
Joost What I am missing is a praise tracking system. It would Joost operate similarly to the b.t.s.; users could: Sounds like a good idea, eg to help motivate maintainers fix bugs. I think it would be good just to alert people to real well done packages (for instance, excellent debconf

Re: Deb base ISO images

2000-08-15 Thread Seth Cohn
I've been browsing cdimage. Do we release a base system as a 30/40-ish meg ISO that can network to enable apt handling retrieval of anything else? One would be really useful to me, and I'm sure to others too. The base packages (for floppies etc) aren't always so easy or convienient, and I think